Post by: Terry Green on November 04, 2022, 06:04:46 PM
Tell us why you shoot the PL Lonbow if you would so please. And, show pic if you can.
Thanks
Post by: sdorton on November 04, 2022, 06:42:00 PM
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Post by: KentuckyWolf on November 04, 2022, 07:39:14 PM
It’s arrow speed is on par with my PSA. They are the same weight and draw length. I don’t have a chronograph but I can’t tell a difference in them.
I can switch back and forth between the PLX and PSA….with no issues, no adjustments, etc.
The takedown system is rock solid and super simple.
It’s a gorgeous. A flawless work of craftsmanship. It’s backed by Black Widows reputation and excellent customer service.
I’ll get some pic posted later if I get a chance.
Post by: KentuckyWolf on November 04, 2022, 07:57:37 PM
Post by: KentuckyWolf on November 04, 2022, 08:00:02 PM
Bocote limbs with boo cores, ziricote in riser. No white. No red.
Post by: Terry Green on November 04, 2022, 08:17:26 PM
pics don’t do her justice
Bocote limbs with boo cores, ziricote in riser. No white. No red.
Beautiful, just beautiful. :readit:
Post by: KentuckyWolf on November 04, 2022, 08:47:15 PM
Having a pretty bow gives you some eye candy to look at when nothing is moving in the woods.
My PSA was a straight forward utilitarian “Autumn Oak”. The craftsmanship is top notch. There is a long story behind this but she is now sporting diamondback skins and is quite the looker now too.
Post by: MCNSC on November 04, 2022, 10:12:19 PM
Post by: Mike Bolin on November 05, 2022, 12:31:21 PM
I hate to admit to such a stupid mistake, but in Colorado on and Elk hunt in 2013, I laid my PL with the upper limb tip against my truck against my license plate and the lower limb tip on the ground. My buddy and I were straightening up camp and a thunderstorm rolled in. Wind was blowing pretty hard, so I jumped in the truck to back it away from the treeline as there were limbs being blown down from the dead pines. I threw it in reverse and truck wouldn't move backwards more than a few inches before the tires would spin. I was just putting it in to 4WD when my buddy yelled that I was backing over my bow! I pulled forward and he grabbed the bow and then I moved the truck. We got in the tent, and I looked the bow over. Other than mud, the bow looked fine. After the storm moved through, I grabbed a couple of judo points and (carefully) started shooting the bow, thinking it would come apart, but it shot just fine. As a matter of fact, it was one of the bows I had reduced in weight 4 years later. Did I mention PLs are built like a tank!
Post by: Michael Guran on November 05, 2022, 01:33:10 PM
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Post by: Mike Bolin on November 05, 2022, 02:42:54 PM
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Post by: Dsturgisjr on November 05, 2022, 05:11:56 PM
Post by: KentuckyWolf on November 05, 2022, 05:39:11 PM
Brandon that’s the finest Widow I ever saw. They look like solid bows and I’ve heard they are quick!
Thanks. I always wanted a PLX…so pulling the trigger on one was an easy decision (when I had the spare money). Picking and settling on woods was the toughest decisions. Roger sent me pics of lams to look over. Picked out some highly figured dark bocote. I think Roger had a recurve in mind for them, but I loved them. Beautiful…and some natural camouflage.
Post by: MnFn on November 06, 2022, 12:08:06 AM
Guys like Ben Maher, Frasettor, Denny Sturgis.
I really like the grip. Mine is the Toby grip. I like the fact that when I pick it up I don’t have to fool around to get the grip “right”. When I pick it up its just there every time. Also no hand shock at least to me. The weight of the bow seems to be about right, very stable.
Mine is 50@30, and 64”. It doesn’t feel like a 64” bow, it feels “handy”.
Here it is black and white ebony, I think it’s a looker. This one is quiet and I have left it the way I got it. But when get a new string I will reduce it to one set of silencers.
Post by: Tim Reese on November 06, 2022, 07:27:56 AM
Post by: Dsturgisjr on November 06, 2022, 08:10:02 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on November 06, 2022, 08:29:37 AM
Post by: Dsturgisjr on November 06, 2022, 09:09:39 AM
Boy oh boy, here comes Roy and he's acting so coy; but he brings no joy like a Christmas toy. He just likes to get Terry all riled up! 😀
Post by: frassettor on November 06, 2022, 10:07:27 AM
Post by: Terry Green on November 06, 2022, 10:35:00 AM
Ron La Clair isn't here for poetry so I'll do my best.
Boy oh boy, here comes Roy and he's acting so coy; but he brings no joy like a Christmas toy. He just likes to get Terry all riled up! 😀
Pretty good Denny......... AND too dang funny!!!
Post by: Ken Babicky on November 08, 2022, 05:22:08 PM
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Post by: MnFn on November 08, 2022, 07:49:03 PM
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Post by: charles m on November 09, 2022, 11:28:04 AM
Post by: KentuckyWolf on November 09, 2022, 04:24:07 PM
For those who have a standard limb and a carbon limb what is the difference in your opinion?
Wanted to ask that question to Denny?
Interested… didn’t know if the difference was enough to make me add a carbon PLX to my household.
Post by: Terry Green on November 09, 2022, 04:25:26 PM
For those who have a standard limb and a carbon limb what is the difference in your opinion?
Here's one answer....
I started shooting the carbon limbs this year and I like them even better. .
Post by: Dsturgisjr on November 12, 2022, 12:04:30 PM
The mass weight is quite a bit less which may account for the increased limb speed.
I always thought PLs had little hand shock and vibration, but the carbon seems even less in my experience.
Some folks might not like the look as much as the wood and exotic veneers though. Much to Toby's chagrin, I have rattle canned an exotic PLX a time or two. 😀
Post by: KentuckyWolf on November 12, 2022, 01:21:16 PM
Black Widow says the carbon limb longbows are 3-5' a second faster. I got around 8' with my informal (no hooter shooter) testing. Was also using heavier 62" bows to compare.
The mass weight is quite a bit less which may account for the increased limb speed.
I always thought PLs had little hand shock and vibration, but the carbon seems even less in my experience.
Some folks might not like the look as much as the wood and exotic veneers though. Much to Toby's chagrin, I have rattle canned an exotic PLX a time or two. 😀
Any effect on tuning?
Post by: Dsturgisjr on November 12, 2022, 02:35:38 PM
Post by: KentuckyWolf on November 12, 2022, 02:42:18 PM
Post by: Terry Green on November 12, 2022, 03:17:58 PM
I had to drop 50 grains of point weight to get a perfect tune with the carbon limbs.
Denny, how many grains were you shooting before?
Post by: Dsturgisjr on November 13, 2022, 08:39:09 AM
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Post by: Ben Maher on November 14, 2022, 06:32:05 AM
Denny - those Europeans are crazy good shooters …
These guys are amazing eh !
They are a big deal in Europe …. They sure could be shooting those long heavy risered longbows out there …. But they choose Widows ! (Love the fact that they still shoot split too - gives me hope 😎😎😎
Post by: Maclean on November 14, 2022, 08:47:06 AM
I was intrigued when I read that someone had Black Widow reduce the draw weight on an existing bow. My question is - do they still do this and is it expensive?
I can shoot this bow just fine at my DL, but if I could reduce the draw weight closer to 50# I would be stoked.
Post by: Maclean on November 14, 2022, 09:25:08 AM
Started shooting PLs in 2005. They are very forgiving built like a tank, quiet and shoot pretty much the same for me as my PTF recurve. When my bow shoulder started acting up in 2017, I had Widow take a few pounds off of my PLIII and my PLV. In 2020 I sold them both as my doc has limited me to no more than 45#. I'm getting on the list for a new PLIII that will be 43#-45# at my draw length. I've own over a dozen (maybe closer to 2 dozen) other longbows, but the PL shoots the best for me.
I hate to admit to such a stupid mistake, but in Colorado on and Elk hunt in 2013, I laid my PL with the upper limb tip against my truck against my license plate and the lower limb tip on the ground. My buddy and I were straightening up camp and a thunderstorm rolled in. Wind was blowing pretty hard, so I jumped in the truck to back it away from the treeline as there were limbs being blown down from the dead pines. I threw it in reverse and truck wouldn't move backwards more than a few inches before the tires would spin. I was just putting it in to 4WD when my buddy yelled that I was backing over my bow! I pulled forward and he grabbed the bow and then I moved the truck. We got in the tent, and I looked the bow over. Other than mud, the bow looked fine. After the storm moved through, I grabbed a couple of judo points and (carefully) started shooting the bow, thinking it would come apart, but it shot just fine. As a matter of fact, it was one of the bows I had reduced in weight 4 years later. Did I mention PLs are built like a tank!
Mike, the PL III that I bought earlier this year (see my post above) was made for you in August 2006! Small world huh?
Was this bow one of the bows that you had Black Widow reduce the draw weight on?
Post by: Mike Bolin on November 14, 2022, 09:41:03 AM
Post by: Maclean on November 14, 2022, 09:51:53 AM
Post by: Ben Maher on November 14, 2022, 04:49:34 PM
I have bought 4 more since .
I actually just got home from shooting mine at the 3D Nationals
Fast, amazing build quality and very forgiving …..
Post by: Ben Maher on November 14, 2022, 04:54:43 PM
Post by: Ben Maher on November 14, 2022, 04:59:21 PM
Post by: Terry Green on November 14, 2022, 07:40:50 PM
Post by: Wilderlife on November 16, 2022, 02:41:36 PM
I've already got a few nice trad bows, have just bought myself a shiny new compound to help cull critters, and before it's even arrived I've been speaking with an online friend about his PLX and now he's going to send it to me to try. How I'll manage to NOT buy it is beyond me.
Post by: Maclean on November 16, 2022, 02:55:36 PM
This thread has been fantastic, and potentially expensive!
I've already got a few nice trad bows, have just bought myself a shiny new compound to hell cull critters, and before it's even arrived I've been speaking with an online friend about his PLX and now he's going to send it to me to try. How I'll manage to NOT buy it is beyond me.
Yeah Wilderlife, you're doomed!
Post by: Maclean on December 16, 2022, 08:05:10 PM
Wow, what an amazing transformation! It's like a new bow and the handle wrap is a huge improvement.
It has to be said, the folks at Black Widow are second to none. I've rarely had a more positive and rewarding experience. They exceeded expectations at every opportunity. Toby said they could maybe take 3 pounds off and gave me 5. Said it would take 3 to 4 weeks and it took 9 days. And they're just so danged nice to work with.
Come September, this bow will be in my hands as I chase my beloved wapiti.
Post by: A Lex on December 20, 2022, 03:19:44 PM
Why a Blackwidow PL longbow? They sit nice in my hand, they shoot extremely well, they hit where I look, they are smooth and quiet, they are way more than quick enough with the heavy wooden arrows I shoot, and to me, they simply look fantastic.
Just shooting them puts a smile on my face.
I can't ask much more than that.
With one of my Blackwidow PLX longbows and heavy wooden arrows, I have taken most things we have on offer here in Australia, from Bunnies to Buffalo.
And, dealing with the guys there in Nixa Missouri is a pleasure. I have found their service to be simply outstanding. Nothing but good things to say about their bows, their people, and the way they do business.
Best
Lex
Post by: Maclean on December 20, 2022, 03:39:31 PM
The only thing I haven't decided on yet is whether to get a takedown or 1 piece.
All of my bows are 1 piece longbows, I've never had a takedown.
What can you tell me about Black Widow's PL takedown system?
Post by: MnFn on December 20, 2022, 05:00:38 PM
What are the weight ranges on your PL’s?
Post by: Ben Maher on December 20, 2022, 05:30:15 PM
Post by: KentuckyWolf on December 20, 2022, 07:41:35 PM
Lex, I'm so impressed with mine that I'm going to order a new PLX.
The only thing I haven't decided on yet is whether to get a takedown or 1 piece.
All of my bows are 1 piece longbows, I've never had a takedown.
What can you tell me about Black Widow's PL takedown system?
Their takedown system is rock solid. There is a video of black widow trying to destroy the takedown system with a press.
The system is simple…idiot proof. No tools to use. No parts to lose. No alignment issues.
The system is dead quite. No noise. No vibrations.
It feels exactly the same as a one piece. Feels the same in the hand. Feels the same when shot.
Post by: Maclean on December 20, 2022, 08:01:38 PM
Post by: A Lex on December 21, 2022, 04:38:54 AM
Lex, I'm so impressed with mine that I'm going to order a new PLX.
The only thing I haven't decided on yet is whether to get a takedown or 1 piece.
All of my bows are 1 piece longbows, I've never had a takedown.
What can you tell me about Black Widow's PL takedown system?
Their takedown system is rock solid. There is a video of black widow trying to destroy the takedown system with a press.
The system is simple…idiot proof. No tools to use. No parts to lose. No alignment issues.
The system is dead quite. No noise. No vibrations.
It feels exactly the same as a one piece. Feels the same in the hand. Feels the same when shot.
KW nailed it Maclean
Thats almost exactly as I would have replied.
I could not have put it better :thumbsup:
Best
Lex
Post by: shingobee shooter on December 21, 2022, 09:57:56 PM
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Post by: RIVERWOLF on December 27, 2022, 06:45:58 PM
Fine "BULL" Denny !
Have a question for you .... .
It appears your PL's have a slightly different , more refined shelf/rest/grip ....or is this simply an optical due to the pictures ?(one's posted on this thread)
I personally like smaller narrow shelfs for clearance , and was curious if these are special order of stock offerings .
Thanks in advance ....great looking bows everyone & Congrats on a fine Christmas Bull Denny .... :clapper:
Post by: Dsturgisjr on December 27, 2022, 07:20:28 PM
Post by: RIVERWOLF on December 27, 2022, 07:31:38 PM
Must just be an optical the way the bows are positioned in the picture ?
Fine looking bows . I like charcoal risers , but that Green-Leaf (emerald green;) is pretty nice looking ....
Thanks for the great pictures and info everyone :clapper:
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Bocote limbs, correct?
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Post by: BigJim on December 30, 2022, 08:17:35 AM
A finer group of guys you will never meet... but don't tell them I said that! :biglaugh:
BigJim