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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Vesty on December 03, 2022, 10:48:45 AM
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Time for a new quiver. Any advantage or disadvantage of stiffer leather vs. more supple. Hill Archery offers both.
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I've used both kinds and found the stiff one easier to get arrows in and out of but they rattle around more in a stiff one.
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Get the stiff one and break it in real well. The weight of the leather helps it collapse around the arrows.
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https://traditionalknowhow.blogspot.com/2014/03/hunting-with-back-quiver.html?m=1
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The one from HH archery is very nice!
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My answer is in the middle. Stiff enough where they extract easily but soft enough where they don’t rattle around. So I make my own…
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I guess these are good examples
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I'm partial to the Sunset Hill quivers..... Nate uses latigo or bridle leather, they break in quickly and carry your arrows quietly in the woods.
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I just received my Hill style quiver from Sunset Hill Nate does a awesome job on his quiver. [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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Sometimes I use 6/7oz other times I'll use 5/6oz leather. Personally I like the thicker leather. It does take a little longer to break in. Everyone's different though.
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My American Leathers Hill style is the most quiet quiver I have ever owned,it is stiff leather but well broke in.It is one of the original American Leather ones built when John first started the company.
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Not necessarily a Hill quivers but these are some of the back quivers I've made for friends over the years...
(https://i.imgur.com/08bp7OD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/R1HWJHi.jpg)
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My personal quiver. No stain or dye, only Neatsfoot and sunlight. Some dyed leather leaches off on your clothes when you sweat. I usually treat mine once a year.
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That's nice work, Greg. :thumbsup:
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Sunset Hill. I have one and use it with one of his excellent longbows.
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I had a Hill Style quiver made for me by Ron Maulding in the '80s. It had a ring of wool sheep skin sewn around the inside of the top collar to help quiet the arrows. I used to put some cloth in the bottom to keep my broadheads from banging around in the bottom.
I just hunt and I switched to a Safari Tuff quiver. I find it better for me for hunting.
PS - I forgot I had one of Howard Hill Archery's high end quivers. I think they were made in Germany. That was a nice quiver too. Too bad HHA doesn't carry them anymore.
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Thanks Pat, I didn't have a big enough piece of leather to make my own quiver. I sowed 3 pieces together. Lol. I've made a few like that since. As they say," necessity is the mother of invention " .
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I definitely recommend the softer back quivers for hunting. I have found that they are quieter, and tend to conform to your back, which keeps the arrows from spilling out as you bend over. The only really expensive quiver I own is the stiff model from Howard Hill. It is my freight hauler used for carrying a lot of arrows to a shoot. It is just too noisy for hunting. Generally, I buy inexpensive models that will carry six or eight arrows.
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For you guys making your own quivers, where are you getting your leather from?
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I buy from Tandy or Springfield Leather Co. I've had good luck with both. It's best if you can view it before buying if possible.
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Thanks Greg. I just found a Tandy store near me, where I live 100 miles away is close ...
Your personal quiver is really nice, what type of leather did you use?
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I get some of my leather from a guy that comes to the Tenn Classic. Also from a NC company called Jack White Leathers. There are lots of reputable companies online including Crazy Crow and Moscow Hide and Fur and others. It's nice to be able to touch the leather so you know just what you are getting.
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I buy from Tandy or Springfield Leather Co. I've had good luck with both. It's best if you can view it before buying if possible.
I buy from Springfield Leather also. Very helpful and quality stuff. I may have to give making a Hill quiver a try.
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Maclean my nearest leather supplier is in Des Moines around 100mi for me as well. I like looking over the leather if possible, so we make the trip every so often. I've ordered it from Springfield many times with good results. You can call them and tell them what you're looking for.
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Maclean my nearest leather supplier is in Des Moines around 100mi for me as well. I like looking over the leather if possible, so we make the trip every so often. I've ordered it from Springfield many times with good results. You can call them and tell them what you're looking for.
All of my leather projects so far have been small. After seeing the quivers you guys are making has piqued my interest in larger projects. But it's a whole order of magnitude different.
Any good resources out there for this type of leather work, covering the basics of leather type and specialized tools, etc.?
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I'd say 4oz to 6oz leather, oil tanned, latigo or other softer leather. It's good to be able to feel the leather to be sure it is the consistency and texture you want. Most leather companies offer samples but generally at a cost.
As far as tools a rotary hole punch and a razor knife will do what you need for a Hill style quiver.
I make a pattern from poster board so I can make adjustments before you cut into the leather.
When I get a hide or half hide I cut a straight edge along the back and cut shoulder straps and gussets along this straight edge. Down the center of the back is the strongest most consistent part of the hide
Remember that hides stretch across the hide and have less stretch lengthwise so set up your pattern to deal with these qualities.
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Thanks for the input Pat.
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David Miller has directions in his short paperback book. Also Rob D from this site has a build along as well in the how to section.
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Thanks Stacy
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Where do you guys get your lacing from and is it a certain size/Strength? Also it looks like a side is about 22-24SF. Would that make two quivers?
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That should be plenty of leather for at least 2 Hill style quivers. Be sure to cut the straps from along the back of the side the thickest and straightest part of a side. I cut a straight edge along the back then cut as many straps as needed then take the quiver bodies and the bottoms from the rest. Remember, hides stretch more across the hide than along the hide so position your pattern accordingly. If the hide isn't too thick you can cut lacing from there also. A stripping gauge, a simple, adjustable wooden device with a single edge razor makes this pretty easy. It can be ordered from any leather supply co. Indian tanned or other types of lacing lacing can also be bought from there.
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For lacing I go to my local feed and farm store and buy leather boot laces.
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The quivers I make takes a 19 x 24 piece. Kodiak lace from Tandy is very good. It's 5/32in a lot tougher and easier to work with than 1/8 in more expensive but worth it. Nate Steen turned me on to 5/32in. Pretty good stuff. You can usually get two quivers from a double shoulder hide, as long as they're free of defects.
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Brands and range marks can add a lot of character to your leather projects. :thumbsup: