Post by: ARTHUR Nicholas on December 06, 2022, 04:42:40 PM
Post by: garyschuler on December 06, 2022, 05:27:48 PM
The belly ramp under the glass. I believe it gives better stress relief than just going with the glass, especially if you are using the Traditional 14” Riser and putting the riser on top of the stack and using the steep belly Ramps of the Traditional style Hill American Semi Longbow riser.
Post by: Longcruise on December 06, 2022, 07:40:21 PM
If using clear with veneers It’s just the veneer and glass on the belly. Sometimes veneer as thin as 018.
Post by: Buggs on December 07, 2022, 01:08:47 PM
Post by: Buemaker on December 07, 2022, 06:14:46 PM
Myself I have used just parallel lams on the back of riser.
Post by: Longcruise on December 08, 2022, 12:36:36 AM
The way I more often do it is to hand fit the riser to match. It’s abit of effort but it works. Im not set up to do any profile sanding.
Post by: Buemaker on December 08, 2022, 04:43:07 AM
Post by: mmattockx on December 08, 2022, 10:12:02 AM
Thanks,
Mark
Post by: Longcruise on December 08, 2022, 04:52:39 PM
I have been following along with this and am having some visualization problems of exactly what people are doing. Can someone post a couple pics to help me out with this?
Thanks,
Mark
Need a little more help on what you are trying to visualize.
Post by: mmattockx on December 08, 2022, 06:30:21 PM
Need a little more help on what you are trying to visualize.
After reading through it again, I think I have it now. OP is asking if people run just the FG lam up the fades onto the riser or if they run both a core lam and the FG lam up the fades. Is that correct?
Mark
Post by: Longcruise on December 08, 2022, 08:26:02 PM
Need a little more help on what you are trying to visualize.
After reading through it again, I think I have it now. OP is asking of people run just the FG lam up the fades onto the riser or if they run both a core lam and the FG lam up the fades. Is that correct?
Mark
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Post by: Kirkll on December 09, 2022, 11:41:27 AM
I do not build the basic ASL style myself, but i have a couple one piece long bows i build and I run a double ended power lam across the back of the riser to extend the fades, and one relatively thin wood lam up the belly ramps. (.080 or less) .....I believe it strengthens the fades personally. Kirk
Post by: Buggs on December 09, 2022, 12:11:52 PM
Post by: Kirkll on December 12, 2022, 11:56:01 AM
I haven't really studied those original Hill styles much. Kirk
Post by: Longcruise on December 12, 2022, 06:59:26 PM
Correct me if i'm wrong Buggs, but aren't those Hill ASL bows laid up with the belly glass running full length, and then the grip section is installed over that belly glass? I might be thinking of something else i've seen.
I haven't really studied those original Hill styles much. Kirk
Heck, he might have done that. All sorts of techniques and materials were used by Hill.
When he was in FL he observed a wood that I think he refered to as Snakewood. He tried that. He was an innovator and had an open mind.
Post by: Kirkll on December 13, 2022, 11:32:00 AM
My Boot Hill design, which is NOT an ASL design at all even though the strung bow looks identical to an HH design….has an 18” - 20” riser tip to tip of fades, with a 30” double ended power lam I wrap around the back of the riser.
Funny thing is….. my own design has MUCH higher performance, and no kick to it at all. The limbs bend further out than a typical ASL, and the preload at brace is much higher.
I honestly thought I’d sell these like hot cakes due to the advancements made, but…..I couldn’t give ‘em away to the HH crowd…. Between the early draw weight in the draw cycle, the lack of what they called “Thump” after the shot, and the faster arrows speed…. They just wouldn’t accept it as an ASL….. :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Tough crowd to please…. It’s a cult I tell ya. :biglaugh:
Post by: Buggs on December 13, 2022, 11:51:44 AM
You are right about Hill folks, they are frozen in time.
Post by: onetone on December 13, 2022, 04:02:40 PM
Post by: Longcruise on December 14, 2022, 09:47:34 AM
Do they all prefer those saggy back quivers that one has to reach around with the bow hand and push up on the bottom of the quiver, so the draw can reach the arrows? I don’t see any reason for that, but different strokes for different folks I suppose.
That's pretty much a required element of the costume. :biglaugh:
I've made quite a few of those back quivers but they just don't work for me. My body just won't cooperate. Besides, I always have a day pack on so of course there's no place for it.
But I truly love shooting an ASL. True, they don't have the speed of other designs but you can up the arrow weight a lot without giving up much speed.
Post by: Buggs on December 14, 2022, 04:32:00 PM
Post by: garyschuler on December 14, 2022, 07:52:06 PM
It works great and as I have bad shoulders. This fits the bill for me.
Post by: garyschuler on December 14, 2022, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: garyschuler on December 14, 2022, 08:00:02 PM
Post by: Kirkll on December 14, 2022, 10:20:37 PM
I bought a very nice back quiver that i ended up giving to my son in law. I didn't like having the arrows spilling out every time i bent over to pull arrows, and catching the arrows on branches. I never did like reaching over my shoulder for an arrow.... never felt comfortable to me.
My favorite 3D quiver is a hip style. But i like a strap on bow quiver for hunting. Kirk
Post by: Longcruise on December 15, 2022, 02:20:15 PM
Each broadhead has it's own protective sheath. All the sheaths are connected to a pull through in the bottom of the quiver with a knot so that drawing an arrow leaves the sheath behind.
Post by: Kirkll on December 15, 2022, 02:24:55 PM