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Title: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: bigbob2 on January 08, 2023, 05:09:44 AM

Voice from the past here. Question for self bowyers. How do you deal with pin knot travelling right through stave. Is it ok to cut it back on the belly or treat it the same as on the back?

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: Pat B on January 08, 2023, 07:55:45 AM

If the pins runs back to belly and are not near the edge they are usually no problem. Be sure when you work to a clear back ring that you don't violate the ring around the pin knots. Don't just flatten the back through the pins.
 Don't forget to post pics of the finished bow.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: Roy from Pa on January 08, 2023, 10:09:46 AM

Bigbob WHO?:)

 :laughing: :wavey: :wavey:

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: Mad Max on January 08, 2023, 11:14:34 AM

How many pin knots are there?
They can make a great look to the bow
If some are on the edge make a bump around them (follow the grain lines around them
Google Clay Hayes
How to deal with knots on an osage bow stave - self bow building

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: Buemaker on January 08, 2023, 12:33:27 PM

Bigbob, long time no see. Thought you had been taken by one of them big crocks.

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: bigbob2 on January 08, 2023, 04:55:40 PM

Thanks guys for the replies.even the garden gnome from PA!  :biglaugh: Aware :biglaugh:Aware of working these knots on back but some are on the edge and go right through to belly . Bue, I am out of season for the crocs! Have been dealing with bad period in my life past few years, hopefully all good now.

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: Pat B on January 08, 2023, 06:31:02 PM

Pins on the belly are no problem. For knots on the edge try to keep a little meat around them on the outside or go inside and remove them all together.
 I don't like to keep an island around knots because they can lift a splinter that can carry down ti the ring below. Smooth, clean back around the pin. The pins will be raised from the back so be careful around them.
 "Garden Gnome from PA"   :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: bigbob2 on January 08, 2023, 07:06:08 PM

Thanks for your answer Pat, really respect your knowledge. I will only be working on it little at a time , but will post here if it progresses. Good ol’ Roy huh? Top guy though. He is paying me to say that.

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 18, 2023, 04:45:49 PM

I have not had a problem with pins or pine clusters anywhere on an osage bow, my last bow had 6 pin clusters on the edges of the bow, never been a problem, I don't pay any attention to them.

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: bigbob2 on January 18, 2023, 05:05:53 PM

Thanks Eric, appreciated. That is reassuring. Any problems with straight line checks on the back . Drying splits, as these staves were badly neglected.

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: Mad Max on January 18, 2023, 06:04:21 PM

Quote from: bigbob2 on January 18, 2023, 05:05:53 PM

Thanks Eric, appreciated. That is reassuring. Any problems with straight line checks on the back . Drying splits, as these staves were badly neglected.

As long as they don't run off the edge.
super glue them

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: bigbob2 on January 18, 2023, 07:29:35 PM

Thanks Max, that is what I assumed. Had internet problems so haven’t been here in recent days. Will post photos in a week or so of progress.

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 28, 2023, 02:26:55 PM

I always tiller knotted areas a little stiffer than the rest of the limb...just a little. Jawge

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: bigbob2 on January 28, 2023, 04:13:13 PM

Thanks Jawge.Yep knew that Mainly wanted to know about what people do with pin knots that travel through to belly.

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 08, 2023, 09:46:11 PM

I would leave a little wood around the width. Jawge

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: bigbob2 on February 08, 2023, 09:52:13 PM

I ended up splicing two different billets Jawge.Still tillering , and it has a kink outer third each limb : [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Title: Re: Pin knots in Osage stave
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 10, 2023, 08:24:01 AM

I would get the near handle wood bending more but leave the fades and out alone..  The last 10 inches out to the tips are bending enough.

You have not strung it yet?

Don't until the tiller is right.

Jawge