Trad Gang
Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Pine on July 08, 2023, 10:25:54 AM
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Tell your times someone made a statement about traditional archer that seemed like a very silly or stupid statement and or question.
I'll start; this one time years ago I was in a ground blind and a guy with a tree stand on his back walked up to me within a few feet before he saw me and told me he was going to put a tree stand in the tree I was at the base of.
He apologized for walking in on my hunt and then saw my bow leaning against the tree.
He then asked me "Can you actually kill something with that thing?"
SAY WHAT?
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Years ago I was coming down a trail on the way back to base camp and crossed paths with a guy with a compound bow. We exchanged greetings and he takes a long look at my longbow and says "You better not let a game warden catch you with that thing, they're illegal in this state."
SAY WHAT? :biglaugh:
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How much of a deer will that thing penetrate?
Are you actually going to hunt with that?
This is a joke, right? You're not really gonna hunt with that toy bow, are you?
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I used to tell people that told me I couldn't kill anything w my bow, "Stand over there w a apple on your head". "I won't guarantee I'll hit the apple but I'll be very close". "I tend to shoot low sometimes"
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Im the dummy in this story. When I knew I was going traditional I made a bunch of phone calls for brochures. I should mention this was before Traditional Bowhunter Magazine, or the internet.. I asked Paul Schafer if he actually killed anything with them recurves.... He said I do alright, thats all he said. Yeah I was an idiot.... Laugh about it often..
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I used to tell people that told me I couldn't kill anything w my bow, "Stand over there w a apple on your head". "I won't guarantee I'll hit the apple but I'll be very close". "I tend to shoot low sometimes"
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Uncasing the K-Mag on the tailgate of my truck to walk in to my stand, compound hunter walks past me and stops and says, "Never saw anyone hunt with one of them things before. Can you actually kill a deer with it?" Say what?
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I asked Paul Schafer if he actually killed anything with them recurves.... He said I do alright, thats all he said. Yeah I was an idiot.... Laugh about it often..
Oh man, that’s hilarious :laughing:
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One day years ago my chief antagonist/buddy at the time and I were shooting in a 3D tournament. As we were approaching the next target, where there was a small group of people standing around, my buddy yelled out, “Hey, anybody want to come over here and watch Dave miss?” Funny, because ordinarily having strangers watch me shoot might make me nervous enough to miss, but his challenge made me focus my attention enough that I nailed it!
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That's a good looking walking stick ya got there.
How big is the fiddle that you play that thing with?
Are you too cheap to buy a compound?
Do you actually hunt with that thing?
You must not want to kill anything.
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Here's one of mine them: " you don't uses a rangefinder why not ? " me: makes me hunt harder :goldtooth: them; I don't get it :knothead:
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Senior year in college, I was president of the archery club, and there was a kid who would show up every week to shoot his compound. He was a good shot, but wasn't very talkative the first few times he came. Finally he started talking a bit more and admitted that he figured I wouldn't like him very much since he shot a compound. Apparently some trad guys at his range back home had laid into him more than once and he figured we all thought the same about him. I just had to shake my head about that. We've got tentative plans to do a hunt together in the next year or two after he graduates.
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Just as I was about to come out of the Cohutta Wilderness I heard a truck coming along the dirt road. The driver stopped and rolled down his window and looked me over.... and said "Don't even tell me you are bear hunting with that thing". I replied "Yes". He then said "You're damn crazy" and I replied, "So it would seem".
He then offered to give me a ride back to my truck, and he started insisting that someone must have stole my truck at is was over 3 miles around the other side of the mountain.
That was one long day of blissful solitude let me tell ya.
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I remember here in Michigan back in the early 1960s how they were trying to outlaw bow and arrow deer hunting ( was before the wheels ) claiming that two out of three deer died later from bad shots.
Thankfully Papa Bear set that straight.
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On a hog hunt with an outfit in Florida, as I was stringing up my Zipper Nitro at the vehicle ..........
"What do you plan on doing with that? See that target over there? The last guys that came through with recurves left it because they were so pissed cuz they kept missing the hogs ........."
Here's one of the best I've heard .......
A good friend of mine who hunts with everything BUT a longbow or recurve ..........
Me: "Buddy you're a killer and you said you used to hunt with the recurve, you outa get back at it!"
His response: "I can't afford to take that chance on a big buck"
At that moment in time after hearing those words come out his mouth, I literally was asking myself ..... what planet am I on right now? What just happened? What part of the whole big picture has become lost on my good friend? Love the dude, hell of a hunter, but I'll never fully wrap my head around that statement. And this is a guy that in general, invites a challenge ..........
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Eric, I hear ya loud and clear.
I had a friend here for a long time. We hunted all over together on hunts and had great success together on just about every adventure. Turns out he was just a fair weather friend.
We never once had an argument, disagreement, rubbed each other wrong, no friction or jealousy between us.
He didn't want to hunt with me anymore cause the bucks weren't big enough or the hunt's weren't in some sort of 'lime light' enough. He just left, and never returned my emails, texts or phone calls. He even stiffed the St Judes Auction out of a payment after my repeated attempts to contact him about it.
Reminds me of other guys that have attempted drive bys here. They come and post under the guise of 'helping others' or 'sharing', but their real agenda is to 'make a name for themselves' and self promote. And again, another downfall of social media.
I'm a hunter and I don't let the animals control me, nor social media. Hey, I saw it called 'socialist media' the other day here. I like that! :cheesy:
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People ask quite a bit “ Can that actually kill a deer?”, or “You must not want to kill anything if you’re hunting with that”.
The funny part is that most of the people that make a comment can rarely kill a deer with a compound or crossbow.
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In the 1980's I hunted with friends in central Wisconsin and one weekend as I walked into camp I heard this young boy maybe 12(carrying a compound) tell his Dad "that guy must be poor, look at that bow he has". I didn't say anything as I was shooting a Schultz "trophy Hunter". The next morning it was raining, light but steady, perfect for still hunting. As luck would have it I hunted out of camp a short ways and arrowed a doe lying down. When I drug the deer into camp the rain quit and everyone was up and around, it wasn't long before the young boy was over looking at my deer and I told him " it doesn't matter what bow you shoot it's the arrow that kills".
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I'm normally very calm person, as I was at the check station with a deer mind you, the wheel bow hunter also waiting asks me if my name is Robin Hood and if I wear tights when I hunt. At some point after the exchange of various colorful words the state employee had to separate us.
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I'm normally very calm person, as I was at the check station with a deer mind you, the wheel bow hunter also waiting asks me if my name is Robin Hood and if I wear tights when I hunt. At some point after the exchange of various colorful words the state employee had to separate us.
Some people just don't get it. And some people are just jerks.
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Up in Canada on a no bear hunt we were out back shooting our bows. Three compound shooters and me. I'd been getting ribbed by them for a couple days for carrying my longbow.
. When the snow stopped we took the opportunity to shoot some. At 20 yards I was shooting pretty good for me and shooting generally better groups than any of the three of them. One guy popped off that I couldn't be as accurate as a compound shooter. With one arrow in the target I laughed and told him I was already shooting better than he was. Drew and shot and stuck my arrow I had just shot before that. Those three mumbled back and forth then went back to the cabin.
Yeah, it's like they think people starved to death before modern equipment.
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Was shooting an ASA 3-D shoot and got there late for the start, the organizer drove me out to meet the last group. Five compound guys. They were using all the standard insults, Robin Hood, antique bow, etc,,, I told them I wished I could shoot as good as Robin Hood, At the end of the course they were still ribbing me, so I asked who had hit the most 10's? (me) who had the highest score? (me). But you shoot from the Woman's stake. "OK, if it's so easy, let me shoot your bow and then you can shoot mine." "Winner buys beverage of choice." Deal. They set up a target at about forty yards and gave me a compound that fit and ten arrows. Put 8 of 10 in the middle and the two were out about three inches, Then the most vocal of the group stepped up and I gave him 10 arrows. As he struggled to draw it, I reminded him if he dry fired it he bought it. He finally got one almost back and launched it down range, almost hitting the bail. He just looked at me and I told him I drank Shiner.
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In the mid 1960’s my Uncle Gene was walking in on a trail with his Bear Grizzly (I think that was the bow he was using). It was during the rifle season and he passed a gun guy. Who greeted him with a “you’re going to hunt with that?”.
About an hour or so later Gene was dragging a decent 4X4 whitetail out past the same guy. The guy said “you shot that with that thing?” Gene just smiled and said “yup”, and kept going.
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Gene just smiled and said “yup”, and kept going.
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Perfect. :biglaugh: :clapper:
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Was shooting an ASA 3-D shoot and got there late for the start, the organizer drove me out to meet the last group. Five compound guys. They were using all the standard insults, Robin Hood, antique bow, etc,,, I told them I wished I could shoot as good as Robin Hood, At the end of the course they were still ribbing me, so I asked who had hit the most 10's? (me) who had the highest score? (me). But you shoot from the Woman's stake. "OK, if it's so easy, let me shoot your bow and then you can shoot mine." "Winner buys beverage of choice." Deal. They set up a target at about forty yards and gave me a compound that fit and ten arrows. Put 8 of 10 in the middle and the two were out about three inches, Then the most vocal of the group stepped up and I gave him 10 arrows. As he struggled to draw it, I reminded him if he dry fired it he bought it. He finally got one almost back and launched it down range, almost hitting the bail. He just looked at me and I told him I drank Shiner.
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This has happened to me a few times.
Go into a store like Canellas and ask for traditional archery equipment like fixed blade broadheads and get told " If you're serious about deer hunting you shouldn't try to hunt with a longbow " :nono:
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Beemann,
I know we talked about that interaction you had Paul Schafer, but each time I read that I get a good chuckle. Thanks for sharing that.
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Glad I could make ya chuckle Gary. :goldtooth:
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Yup…. Shooting traditional with a camp full of guys using compound bows requires pretty thick bark. I hunted with a compound bow for many years prior to getting into traditional archery, and mu hunting buddies thought I’d lost my mind the first time I walked into elk camp with a long bow…
But… after demonstrating how accurate these bows can be at 20-40 yards, they quit razzing me completely.
But one evening sitting around the camp fire we had some visitors from another camp that we had seen over the years. A couple of cocky guys that I swear only came to visit when they ran out of beer. I didn’t much care for the guys myself.
So this particular evening they decide to give me a hard time about my long bow I had hanging on a tree right next to my tent. It was one of those pitch black nights with no moon, and you could barely see our practice target about 30 yards away sitting up against a bank. I put up with them bad mouthing my bow and my ability to hit anything with it for about 10 minutes…. Then without saying a word I walked over, grabbed my bow an turned and shot an arrow right through the camp fire flames into the darkness….. These guys jumped up and said, “What the hell was that? “ I said go look at that target over there…. They said …. What target? And I pointed the direction I shot…. Granted…. If you didn’t know the target was there, it as very hard to see…..
When this schmuck came back with my arrow in his hand, I didn’t need to ask where that arrow hit the target because I knew it was dead center….. Amazing enough ….he made some remark about getting lucky…. I just shook my head, and went to bed… but I never heard another word about my long bow after that evening. My hunting buddies got a charge out of it though…. Shut the boys right up with one shot. :biglaugh:
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Oh like everyone get the classic "you can kill a deer with that', but the two I got a big giggle out of:
After a morning hunt stopped at the public practice range and got some shooting in, after lunch before going out for afternoon. A few kids came up and started asking me, the classic "does that kill a deer", then one asked "how do you aim that thing?" I explained the process. After a bit of talking they was getting ready to walk to stand and the other said "but you can only shoot to 10 yards with that." The practice field was on edge of a picked bean field, so I pulled out a old beat up arrow, drew and launched for maximum cast. The arrow hit the dirt, I turned to him and said, "I can shoot further than your pins can reach". Then walked away amazed.
The best was years ago, shot a lot of 3D off season, my brother and his friend was still shooting compounds and his friend was real cocky. Kept razing about limited accuracy and range. Finally after a 3D shoot we 3 shot at, he started in again. After we finished I decided to take a lesson out of a Howard Hill book. "Tell you what, let's shoot the 20 targets on the course again. You pick the targets we shoot, then for the first 10 you pick how we shoot them, the next 10 I will pick. We will only count hits in the kill zone 8 ring. The one loser has to buy the winner a case of beer." The guy was amped up, though my brother who hunted with me a lot tried to talk him out of it. But the guy said deal. He selected what targets we would shoot on the 3D course, and agreed the first 10 he select he could pick how we shot them. We was off, and I was struggling to hold close score with him, as he was selecting distances I haven't practiced from, 40-45 yards. Then came Target 11, I walked off the trail, found a forked tree about halfway to target, and put arrow in kill zone. "Hey, thats not on the course!" he protested. My brother, which started laughing as soon as I walked off the trail said, "It was his turn to pick how you shot it, no one said have to stay on the course". The guy walked over, drew and nailed the tree, one arrow gone. The next target, I walked up to 20 yards and said, "easy shot, nock the arrow, kneel and shoot deer, within 4 seconds". I nocked, dropped and bam, meat in freezer. He walked up, nocked arrow, got release on, dropped to knee and I said "Time", but he punched an arrow that went into another county.
The next target, after hearing him complain, I said "this is easier". I dropped at 15 yards, layed on my belly and shot the Lion. I got up and he said "I cann't do that?" Why not was my response. He then realized his limitations and said, "What beer you want". My brother still loves telling him this, especially after he switched to longbow. :biglaugh:
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I don't have any stories like these, mostly because I've generally just shot and hunted with very close friends and my brothers.
I do remember my first deer. Dad (RIP) had never bowhunted, and was never able to kill a deer with a rifle (very few deer in those days). When Dad saw my Doe, killed with a Ben Pearson Cougar, he told me the deer must be tame where I hunt. No malice, just confusion.
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A couple years ago I was at a 3D shoot with a friend (a compound shooter) when we caught up to three compound toting archers. As they were finishing up one of them asks if I've ever killed anything with that bow? Before I could even respond my buddy fires out "He kills everything with that bow!" Certainly not a true statement but the look on the guys face was priceless.
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I was in a club for many years lots of compound shooters but I was the only Trad hunter. They actually went pretty easy on me but I would get the “ why don’t you get a real bow “ or “ what if a big buck shows up at 40 yards ?” Stuff. They never really understood but I did bring in enough deer to keep them shaking their heads.
On the “ big buck “ thing , no I never got a big un, quite a few smaller eights though. Thing is I was probably more proud of the does and small bucks than anything they ever got.
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Hunted with a buddy on a lease, as a guest. He used to give me grief, until we started "wing shooting" for hogs on the run. I was 7 for his zero, over the weekend. He quieted down a bit.
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