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Title: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: flint kemper on October 09, 2023, 02:23:46 PM
Is anyone using something other than a drum sander to make laminations. Like a 6x48 flat belt sander or an edge sander. Thanks and if you have photos please post them.
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 10, 2023, 09:34:55 AM
If your on FB lookup Flatline bows.  I think he does it all with a belt sander.
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Longcruise on October 10, 2023, 05:56:52 PM
Think I've seen reference to using a plane.
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Mad Max on October 10, 2023, 08:05:24 PM
You still need sleds to make tapers
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Buemaker on October 11, 2023, 09:23:08 AM
In Dan Bertalans book Traditional Bowyers of America there are two bowyers showing how they make lams without a drumsander.
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Jeff Freeman on October 21, 2023, 07:38:57 PM
Yes I started with a old craftsman 6x48 turned on it's side. Squared up the flat drum. Worked good for you years. JF
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Jeff Freeman on October 21, 2023, 08:39:33 PM
I attached a squared up flat table and a adjustable fence, pivoting on one end. I can do parallels,taper with a sled and shape belly rambs and limb profile. JF
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Kirkll on October 25, 2023, 09:10:20 PM
I set up a jig years ago that i milled tapers through the end of my edge sander using 1.75" wide sleds.

But..... The continuous feed rate is critical to get accurate lams.

I highly recommend getting a drum sander if you plan on getting serious about milling your own lams.    Kirk
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Mad Max on October 26, 2023, 07:50:19 AM
I set up a jig years ago that i milled tapers through the end of my edge sander using 1.75" wide sleds.

But..... The continuous feed rate is critical to get accurate lams.

I highly recommend getting a drum sander if you plan on getting serious about milling your own lams.    Kirk

A few passes with out going deeper is how I use mine.
Could be the rubber drum KIRK, MAYBE, mine is aluminum.
The Hog thickness sander     https://vanda-layindustries.com/html/the_hog_sander.html

I highly recommend the 1/4 HP motor 1725 RPM, mine was a old fan motor.

This is mine, It takes a little practice time to figure it out.
I have milled boo flooring down to .018, I push and pull at the same time.
I have a Grizzly baby drum sander too, but I like the hog for accuracy
(https://i.imgur.com/SanTK7z.jpg)
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 26, 2023, 08:28:47 AM
Good results with the Baby Drum you need to take the H& L off reset the pressure rollers. Use spray adhesive on the paper and strap tape each end.
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Mad Max on October 26, 2023, 08:51:48 AM
Good results with the Baby Drum you need to take the H& L off reset the pressure rollers. Use spray adhesive on the paper and strap tape each end.

I did all that years ago stic   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: onetone on October 27, 2023, 12:29:35 AM
I use mine for final dimension on lams. Have taken carbon twill down to 0.015” It is very accurate. Thanks Max.
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Mad Max on October 27, 2023, 07:07:50 AM
 :bigsmyl: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Mad Max on October 27, 2023, 07:25:48 AM
I use mine for final dimension on lams. Have taken carbon twill down to 0.015” It is very accurate. Thanks Max.

When I make a parallel or taper on my Baby drum sander, then run it threw the hog, It finds high and low spots.
Is it the same for you??
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Buemaker on October 27, 2023, 05:35:07 PM
I hope he do not mind me using this picture, should he see it.
This lamgrinder was used by Brandon  Stahl and he found it so accurate he never bothered to mess with it.
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Crooked Stic on October 27, 2023, 07:59:47 PM
I can see how that setup would be very accurate if there was a constant feed. Not so much feeding by hand.
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: onetone on October 27, 2023, 08:05:47 PM
Max - yes that is the case. It gets out the undulations the other drum sander creates. I think it is misnamed as the Hog tho. As it is so accurate. I use the other drum sander to hog off material.
Title: Re: Making laminations without a drum sander
Post by: Mad Max on October 27, 2023, 09:57:41 PM
Max - yes that is the case. It gets out the undulations the other drum sander creates. I think it is misnamed as the Hog tho. As it is so accurate. I use the other drum sander to hog off material.


Me too