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Title: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Trenton G. on December 11, 2023, 11:25:51 AM
Not wanting to hijack the thread, but kind of going along with the other topic about flying with meat, how do you guys fly commercially with a one piece bow? I'll be headed to Idaho for spring bear and then again for elk in the fall. I know it's not ideal, but I just don't have the funds (and looking at some bowyers wait times, the time) for a new bow at the moment. Having a takedown bow for this stuff down the road would be great, just isn't doable currently. I'll be taking my great northern ghost, which is 62 inches. Ideally I'd like some sort of case that will hold my bow, arrows, quiver, and then maybe have room for some other stuff like clothes, optics, etc. I've read about people using PVC pipe, but I don't know if my recurve would fit like a longbow would, and that doesn't really leave room for anything else.

If anyone has any suggestions or prior experience, that would be great!
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: JAH518 on December 11, 2023, 11:45:26 AM
You could look at Snow Ski travel cases and pack your clothing in the case with the bow for added protection. I've seen multi ski set cases go for under $100 on Amazon.

just a thought.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Witherstick on December 11, 2023, 03:21:04 PM
By the time that you pay for an oversized case for two trips you could’ve purchased a good takedown and thrown it in an arrow case. Just a thought.  We have takedowns for that very reason.  My wife leaves her super ghost recurve at home when we are flying
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Michael Guran on December 11, 2023, 08:10:41 PM
Here’s what I used until I got a takedown bow.  http://www.farnortharchery.com/

It’s basically heavy duty PVC pipe with a sturdy nylon cover and handle.  There are several different models made to accommodate recurves or multiple longbows and arrows.  Good luck on your hunt!
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Trenton G. on December 12, 2023, 09:21:19 AM
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I really like the ski case idea. I'd never thought of that. I would think that would be fine since it's not a firearm.
I'll keep looking for takedown, but even looking for used ones it's tough to find a deal anymore. Especially in the specs that I'd want.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Kelly on December 12, 2023, 12:05:26 PM
Black Hunter takedown won’t bust your bank!
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Trenton G. on December 13, 2023, 09:11:42 AM
I've shot Black Hunters, and bought a few for the archery club in college, but I never got along with them very well. For what they cost they're a great bow and value, but not necessarily something I'm going to bring along on a trip like this. The riser and shelf didn't really work for me, and there was a bit of stacking at my draw. I've heard others have no problem with that, so maybe it was just those particular bows that I've shot.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Rob DiStefano on December 14, 2023, 08:23:50 PM
It's always a gamble of sorts flying with a fairly expensive 1piece.  Too many airline issues abound, particularly these troublesome dayze.  I always use TD bows.  In fact, all the national and international tournament orgs allow at least a 2 piece longbow in that class, because of airline/travel issues.

While the BH in longbow format would be my choice, there are other near double cost new 3 piece recurves that might work well and not break the bank.

Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: McDave on December 15, 2023, 04:58:25 AM
Even though it would take two days to drive from Michigan to Idaho, it really only takes one extra day since you would waste a day flying anyway. Then you would have no problems transporting your one piece bow, returning home with meat, or local transportation while you were in Idaho.  Plus you have less chance of catching any bug that might be floating around in the crowds of people in airports and airplanes.

At least, that's my thought process for my next hunting trip away from home. It seems easier to find the extra day coming and going than it does to deal with the problems of flying somewhere to hunt.  Of course, hunting in Alaska or Africa would be different, but for a two day drive part way across the US, I’m thinking that driving might be a better option.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Kirkll on December 15, 2023, 02:57:41 PM
Not wanting to hijack the thread, but kind of going along with the other topic about flying with meat, how do you guys fly commercially with a one piece bow? I'll be headed to Idaho for spring bear and then again for elk in the fall. I know it's not ideal, but I just don't have the funds (and looking at some bowyers wait times, the time) for a new bow at the moment. Having a takedown bow for this stuff down the road would be great, just isn't doable currently. I'll be taking my great northern ghost, which is 62 inches. Ideally I'd like some sort of case that will hold my bow, arrows, quiver, and then maybe have room for some other stuff like clothes, optics, etc. I've read about people using PVC pipe, but I don't know if my recurve would fit like a longbow would, and that doesn't really leave room for anything else.

If anyone has any suggestions or prior experience, that would be great!

Check your messages .    PM sent    Kirk
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Wudstix on December 15, 2023, 09:39:31 PM
I'm tracking along with you Dave, plus my FJ needs a vacation!!
 :campfire: :coffee: :archer2: :campfire:
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Terry Green on December 16, 2023, 11:52:00 AM
P v c schedule 4  from your hardware store Then live with the airlines charge you up the asset.

This is why I sold several of my one piece bows bought take Downs that I can travel with without giving the airlines the satisfaction.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Trenton G. on December 21, 2023, 01:11:40 PM
Thanks for the suggestions!
McDave, I would love to drive, and it's not entirely ruled out, but my buddy and I both have limited vacation time and want to be able to spend as much time in the woods as we can. While I absolutely love Michigan and couldn't imagine living anywhere else, it is a bit of a pain having to go a few hours north or a few hours south before we can even start heading west. If we are successful though, we have considered renting a vehicle for the drive back.

I'm liking the ski bag suggestion. I talked to a coworker who goes out west quite often skiing and he showed me the case he uses. He also said that it wasn't nearly as bad as he thought to fly it out. I figure if I reinforce it with a few dowel rods or something to keep them from bending it the wrong way, that ought to work nicely.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Trenton G. on March 30, 2024, 11:15:35 PM
I'm going to revive this topic a bit here. While the one piece bow is an option still, I found a very good deal on a Blacktail Elite VL that I am now hoping to bring out west. With that being said, I still am trying to figure out the best way to fly everything out. I'll have a checked bag, a carry on, and then a smaller backpack that will fit under my seat. I believe that I can get all of my clothing and such in my carry on and backpack without much trouble, but I still need to get my big pack, bow, arrows, and sleeping bag out. I'm thinking just a big suitcase for all of those, as I don't think I could fit my pack into a takedown bow case, even with the foam and such taken out. I considered using my pack as my checked bag, but from the reading that I've done, I think it would exceed the size limits. Are there any cases/suitcases that you all prefer for getting everything there at once? The biggest challenge for me is my arrows, as they are 31" long and I'd like to put them in some sort of PVC tubing or something to protect them.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Wudstix on March 30, 2024, 11:39:44 PM
I wish I had your problem!!!
 :campfire: :coffee: :archer2: :campfire:
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Trenton G. on March 31, 2024, 09:07:26 PM
It's a good problem to have, but definitely a bit stressful at the same time! I see that someone brought another topic about cases to the top so I'll look into that one a bit as well.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: tom cunningham on March 31, 2024, 10:54:04 PM
A good quality rolling duffle gives a lot of length for a check-in bag.  The back side is rigid for protection.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: McDave on April 01, 2024, 10:13:28 AM
I think the biggest problem you have is the total volume of things you need to carry in order to both hunt and backpack.  In recent years, I have moved away from traveling with a specially made bow case (although I would probably still use one if I were traveling with something of the same quality as a Blacktail!).  Instead, I use one huge duffel bag which is still within the limits of the airlines for both size and weight, plus carryon items.

In that bag, I can pack everything I need: a takedown bow, arrows, and clothing, for either a multi day hunt or tournament, provided that I have somewhere to sleep indoors at night.  But that bag is jam full, and I still have to make choices about what stuff I take with me and what stuff I must leave behind in order to get the bag closed. There is no way I could do it without checking more than one bag if I had to carry camping equipment too.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Ryan Rothhaar on April 01, 2024, 11:01:12 AM
For a fly in hunt where I’m limited to 70 lbs of gear and need to take everything to live in the bush for 2 weeks including freeze dried, I use two checked duffles for my commercial flight, packed full. I use a good sized pack for a carry on and cram as much as possible in there too. Volume is a huge issue. I put my takedown bow in the middle of the bag wrapped in clothing. I have the lightest wt plastic arrow tube I could find and cut off as much extra plastic as possible. Yeah finding a non-duffle that will take 30 inch arrows in a tube is difficult. I also take minimum # of arrows …no more than 6-7…so I can use a smaller lighter tube and to cut down unnecessary weight in extra arrows.

R
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows
Post by: Kirkll on April 01, 2024, 01:20:08 PM
I'm going to revive this topic a bit here. While the one piece bow is an option still, I found a very good deal on a Blacktail Elite VL that I am now hoping to bring out west. With that being said, I still am trying to figure out the best way to fly everything out. I'll have a checked bag, a carry on, and then a smaller backpack that will fit under my seat. I believe that I can get all of my clothing and such in my carry on and backpack without much trouble, but I still need to get my big pack, bow, arrows, and sleeping bag out. I'm thinking just a big suitcase for all of those, as I don't think I could fit my pack into a takedown bow case, even with the foam and such taken out. I considered using my pack as my checked bag, but from the reading that I've done, I think it would exceed the size limits. Are there any cases/suitcases that you all prefer for getting everything there at once? The biggest challenge for me is my arrows, as they are 31" long and I'd like to put them in some sort of PVC tubing or something to protect them.

Honestly the best way to go is to ship your gear ahead using ing FedEx. No muss , no fuss. And coming home bring a couple coolers full of meat and not mess with baggage.  It’s the only way to fly IMO.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Witherstick on April 01, 2024, 02:19:01 PM
Large duffel bag is the way to go.  We get our clothes, bows, and arrows for a one week hunt in a duffle and a carry on.    [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Trenton G. on April 02, 2024, 07:20:19 AM
Thanks for the suggestion guys. I like the duffle bag idea and might look into that a bit more and try to use my pack as my carry on. It's a 72 liter bag, and most airlines seem to set a limit at 45 liters, but I assume that is fully packed? I'm thinking that as long as I don't cram it full of stuff and keep it fairly small that I should be ok?

Kirk, I've thought about shipping stuff out, and might still do that with a few things. However I don't want to not have my bow to shoot for two weeks leading up to the hunt. That will be one of the last things that gets packed up.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Jim Jackson on April 08, 2024, 06:46:55 PM
I gave up on traveling with one piece bows.Because the airlines charge you enough to buy a new bow.  When I used to travel it was a p v c pipe.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Trenton G. on April 08, 2024, 08:33:17 PM
I ended up getting the duffel bag that Witherstick uses. I think it should be just about perfect for what I need, and has plenty of room for my bow and gear. I'll be able to give a more definitive report here in a month or so.
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Terry Green on April 10, 2024, 10:43:56 AM
I have a large duffel with a pull out handle and wheels on one side with a hard bottom.  I pack a 2 layers of close and lay my arrow box wide side up as an I-beam and a 2 piece take down on each side, then cloths on each side of the bows, on top of the bows, and on the 'end caps'.  This duffel is checked with no issue, been doing it for about 5 years as I got tired of the airlines wanting all that money for a pvc pipe as a 2nd piece.  I zip tie my zippers together and have never had them cut by TSA.

you do buy a duffel, that it will accept your TD with allowance for padding. 

I posted pics on another thread, I'll see if I can find them...
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: Terry Green on April 10, 2024, 10:54:51 AM
Here is a great thread, and my pics are on it.

https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=178202.0
Title: Re: Flying with one piece bows (or 3 piece)
Post by: cacciatore on April 10, 2024, 11:23:47 AM
I have done for years what Terry did, clothes are a perfect soft protection for your loved bows.
One time I was able to carry 8 TDS in a single Cabelas wheeled duffel bag