Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 03, 2024, 02:48:42 PM
Official Build Period: 5 February 2024 - 31 May 2024
Grace Period: 1 June 2024 - 22 June 2024
Minimum one post per week!
**You MUST post a full-draw picture upon receipt of your bow. NO EXCEPTIONS!**
Good luck everyone. :campfire:
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 03, 2024, 03:05:10 PM
Edit: 18 bowyers this year!
Post by: Smguinnip on February 03, 2024, 06:24:25 PM
Post by: Kirkll on February 03, 2024, 07:11:54 PM
Same as last year, I will sub in if someone needs to drop. Thanks to everyone who signed up to keep us running another year!
Edit: 18 bowyers this year!
So how does this work? When do you assign who you are building for? and get the specs needed?
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 03, 2024, 07:19:48 PM
Kyle
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 03, 2024, 08:45:19 PM
Going to be up front, I may have to work into Monday on the matches. The distribution is going to take a while with all the new-to-me folks we have this year.
Kirkll, I will PM everyone who they are building for, their requested specs, and their mailing address
Post by: Kirkll on February 03, 2024, 09:21:44 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 04, 2024, 09:20:46 AM
Ripped some lam material for tapers I got a fun plan for wood choice in this swap bow, more about that in next week's post.
This would be a good time to figure out that picture size :dunno: imgur photos 800x600
Post by: dbeaver on February 04, 2024, 10:09:54 AM
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 04, 2024, 03:17:03 PM
Post by: 4 point on February 04, 2024, 04:10:57 PM
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Post by: dbeaver on February 04, 2024, 08:39:58 PM
Pronghorn?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 04, 2024, 08:57:55 PM
And you need deercoys :biglaugh:
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 04, 2024, 09:01:59 PM
And you need deercoys :biglaugh:
Post by: Kirkll on February 05, 2024, 10:33:21 AM
Getting a jump on things
That’s quite an off fall table set up there. That might qualify in the red neck hall of fame. :biglaugh:
Post by: Longcruise on February 05, 2024, 10:40:05 AM
That's a lot of decoys you put out, think any deer will come? :bigsmyl:
Pronghorn?
Yes, they group up this time of year.
S, apparently I don't need to resize my pictures. Makes things simper. :)
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 05, 2024, 11:34:51 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 05, 2024, 11:49:11 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2024, 12:07:05 PM
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=169125.0
Post by: Longcruise on February 05, 2024, 12:27:15 PM
Mike, open link and scroll down to posting images section.
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=169125.0
Thanks, Roy. That's pretty much what I've done to post pictures but I thought I had to resize them myself before posting.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 05, 2024, 12:42:31 PM
POSTING IMAGES
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There really is no limit on file size currently.
However if you have a huge image file and it takes forever to upload, you will get a error eventually.
Such as using wifi or other slow connections.
Also even though there are no restrictions on size they do take more space on this site.
Even though the forum will re-size the displayed image size to 640PX width.
It does not alter the uploaded file size.
It still will take longer to display on the huge images. And slow down .
So to answer your question.
Size will depend on your connection speed.
That is just the nature of the beast(Internet)
FYI,
You may want to install tapatalk on your phone also.
For all your posting .
technically, there is no maximum image size that's been set for trad gang's forum software. be aware that really large camera and cellphone images will almost always time out because the traffic on our server is so severe almost 24x7 and bandwith for image/file uploads will always take a back seat to topics and postings. really large images are great for making into hard copies but are almost useless for computers. if you have a huge image file and it takes forever to upload, you will eventually get an, such as using wifi or other slow connections. it still will take longer to display on the huge images .... and slow down. this has nothing to do with the trad gang server - it has WAY more horsepower than we need. it's about internet connections.
"smaller" images are guaranteed to upload fast - as long as there are no network issues in the route from your computer to the trad gang server .... it's the internet, and stuff sometimes just happens!
what is a "smaller" image? 2000 or less pixels in width x length. the truth is, even those images are WAAAAY too large to be properly viewed on a typical computer screen, let alone a phone or tablet. there is no need for that, it's a waste of everything.
so it will help to resize really large images. for my personal use, i size to 1024 wide at the max, but most are 800 wide down to 640 wide at the minimum.
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 05, 2024, 01:33:27 PM
Post by: Longcruise on February 05, 2024, 02:28:33 PM
Post by: John Scifres on February 05, 2024, 03:20:32 PM
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Post by: Kirkll on February 05, 2024, 06:01:56 PM
Post by: Kirkll on February 05, 2024, 06:17:59 PM
The very cool part about using google photos is that you can just post a link on a forum, or in an email and do not have to upload or down load photos at all, and that link doesn't have a large file size at all.
Example: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QxWhnj4WmBABxsMV7
Another cool part is that once your phone uploads to google photos you can erase them on your phone and not bog you phone down with hundreds of pictures.
BTW: when you set up your google photo app. change the photo upload size to Large rather than original pixel settings, and set it up so it only uploads when hooked to wifi. This saves data on your phone if you only have so much allotted each month. But... If you have unlimited data ,you only need phone service to upload your photos. These new cameras have HUGE pixel counts on the original photos. If you change them to a large size, the pixel count drops dramatically, and the uploads are quicker. google photos allows unlimited storage in that large format, and the odds that google is going to pull a stunt like Photo bucket did and hold you ransom for your photos in the future is pretty small.... I lost hundreds of photos when photo bucket pulled that crap in my early bow building days....
Food for thought guys. Kirk
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 05, 2024, 06:56:20 PM
Post by: Kirkll on February 05, 2024, 07:26:03 PM
If you got Gmail and keep things syned your pics automatic go to Google photos.
Yup.... but you can change the settings on file size and storage, and... shut it off and only upload when its hooked to wifi too.
I still use imgur for embedding a lot of my website photos because they are set up better for html coding, but i can, and do use those same google photo links in my website coding too, which makes updating and adding photos easier. Kirk
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 05, 2024, 07:48:37 PM
Post by: kennym on February 05, 2024, 09:07:17 PM
Let the games begin … :bigsmyl:
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 05, 2024, 09:41:28 PM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 05, 2024, 11:28:15 PM
Now I'm going to go get me a pickle coke and relax for a bit :laughing:
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 05, 2024, 11:39:59 PM
I’m going with a wood bow, probably a selfbow but have some super clean eastern red cedar slats just calling for a bamboo backing (great combo I’ve used a few times). I’m torn between clean and pleasing to look at or a ‘how the hell does that shoot’ character bow. The stave I have roughed out is one of the latter. The other half of the stave made a fast shooter with about 90* of propeller twist, about 6” of reflex difference in the limbs and loaded with little cracks, but managed no set and chronographed almost 180fps with 10gpp with my 27” draw but was tillered to 28”. The pictures are of that bow.
Kyle
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 06, 2024, 08:23:47 AM
I got some parts put together yesterday.
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Post by: canopyboy on February 06, 2024, 08:58:47 AM
Step one for me is to just clean my shop I suppose. I can barely walk in the door at the moment. :biglaugh:
Post by: dbeaver on February 06, 2024, 08:59:35 AM
Stic that looks AWESOME
Post by: Longcruise on February 06, 2024, 09:45:57 AM
Post by: Kirkll on February 06, 2024, 10:25:00 AM
https://photos.app.goo.gl/w4c4U4S67PZofjs1A
Post by: kennym on February 06, 2024, 11:29:13 AM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 06, 2024, 12:38:31 PM
I may do a couple bows and flip a coin to see what goes.
Kyle
Post by: derekdiruz on February 06, 2024, 12:53:55 PM
Bought a new (used) jet oscillating edge sander. Setting up a profile sander jig on the end for it, like I did my grizzly This one is just getting a machined horseshoe screwed to the end table though. Much simpler, hoping it works out well. I don't see why It wont! Took the 2hp motor off it to take to the shop to be tuned up & cleaned up. Should be assembled tomorrow or the next.
Also, spent all day yesterday and today finalizing my jigs for the CNC.... I'll have my takedown limbs profiled on the machine, as well as drilled and limb butts done. All tests proved successful, hoping a real limb does too LOL Now, with my risers drilled by cnc as well, I should at least not have much issues with alignment.
Then I did some work on a few forms that needed it.
So, as a whole, not going to get to the "build" part for the victim just yet. But the ground work is being laid!
Post by: dbeaver on February 06, 2024, 02:08:04 PM
Going high contrast with this one, try to make it a little flashy and fun to look at
Macassar Ebony Veneer on the belly, black glass on the back, bamboo and hard maple cores stacked appropriately for their tension and compression strengths. Figuring out if im going to sandwich maple between bocote, or bocote sandwiched between black limba for the riser. Black phenolic and sheeps horn for overlays :shaka:
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Post by: Longcruise on February 06, 2024, 02:19:37 PM
Went to shop and a pile of sawdust fell on me . I’m safe now but no pics… :o
Yeah, I wouldn't leak a picture of that either. 😀
Post by: Longcruise on February 06, 2024, 02:30:13 PM
Gonna be fun
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 06, 2024, 03:56:50 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 06, 2024, 04:15:08 PM
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Post by: 4 point on February 06, 2024, 06:22:06 PM
Post by: Kirkll on February 06, 2024, 07:12:46 PM
Pickin'n'choosin
Going high contrast with this one, try to make it a little flashy and fun to look at
Macassar Ebony Veneer on the belly, black glass on the back, bamboo and hard maple cores stacked appropriately for their tension and compression strengths. Figuring out if im going to sandwich maple between bocote, or bocote sandwiched between black limba for the riser. Black phenolic and sheeps horn for overlays :shaka:
Have you ever used Mac ebony under glass before? The reason i ask is that it pretty much just turns black and doesn't highlight the grain much at all. On top of that it shows EVERY imperfection in that so called clear glass.... Honestly.... i would pick a different veneer myself, or stick with black glass. it's a waste of mac ebony, and you wont be happy with the finished product..... been there... done that... Kirk
Post by: kennym on February 06, 2024, 07:18:28 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 06, 2024, 08:31:27 PM
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Post by: Noah70 on February 06, 2024, 10:41:41 PM
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So now comes the hard part of this - the choices of what woods to create a one-of-a-kind bow.
I had made up a riser blank using some Bubinga with a Wenge I-beam, but then found these pieces of Bocote left over from a previous project, which I think would sandwich well with a nice piece of Santos Rosewood. Not sure yet.
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So then comes the limb choices. I have this nice Smoked Zebrawood spliced onto Quilted Maple, but then I also found a nice piece of Olivewood I’d like to try. I’ve never used it, so if anyone has any experience with it? Is it better on back or belly? Or at all?
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 07, 2024, 08:28:58 AM
Post by: kennym on February 07, 2024, 10:13:45 AM
Here’s what I’m thinkin for riser with an accent to match veneers …
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 07, 2024, 11:29:38 AM
You ever see a humpwood bow? It looks crazy but your huntin buddies would always be trying to burn it...
What the hell is humpwood?
:laughing:
Post by: kennym on February 07, 2024, 11:36:50 AM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 07, 2024, 11:37:50 AM
Post by: Kirkll on February 07, 2024, 01:21:11 PM
You ever see a humpwood bow? It looks crazy but your huntin buddies would always be trying to burn it...
What the hell is humpwood?
:laughing:
i could send you a photo Roy.... But it would be indecent. I think i got banned once from posting it.
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 07, 2024, 01:33:11 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 07, 2024, 01:36:20 PM
Post by: wood carver 2 on February 07, 2024, 04:19:17 PM
Thinking of using this for my victims bow. Had the junk just sitting around for a few years, need to use it up.
That’s some really nice junk! Especially the moldy stuff on the right… 😉
Dave.
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 07, 2024, 04:23:36 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 07, 2024, 07:03:36 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2024, 07:50:15 AM
]I'm going to chase a final ring on this stave and shape it into rough, floor tiller shape before I heat bend it shape.
How long is it Dave?? :thumbsup:
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 08, 2024, 09:44:17 AM
Post by: kennym on February 08, 2024, 11:47:20 AM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on February 08, 2024, 12:32:28 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 08, 2024, 12:35:44 PM
At first glance the right catches my eye, but I’ve done the dark risers with lighter flares look great as well.
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 08, 2024, 12:53:12 PM
Kyle
Post by: Kirkll on February 08, 2024, 01:03:57 PM
Edge banding the cut out is good too, as well as sealing it well. i use a Deft brush on lacquer, or Shellac. I buy it by the gallon pretty cheap and use it a lot for sealing all kinds of things.... Food for thought. Kirk
Post by: kennym on February 08, 2024, 02:27:21 PM
Will have some accents in there too,thinking maybe yellow and ?
Post by: 4 point on February 08, 2024, 02:33:47 PM
Post by: kennym on February 08, 2024, 02:44:40 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 08, 2024, 02:49:33 PM
Hey Jon, When building forms from that LVL material, you'll have much better luck keeping it straight using full 1.75" thickness rather than sanding it down to 1.5" . the last one i built i just used a router on each side along the edge in a few spots to get it to 1.5" to center the lams.
Edge banding the cut out is good too, as well as sealing it well. i use a Deft brush on lacquer, or Shellac. I buy it by the gallon pretty cheap and use it a lot for sealing all kinds of things.... Food for thought. Kirk
Thanks, I usually run my forms 1.75 anyway, as I've always run 1.75 glass. I just like having plenty of material to work with if needed.
I was surprised out how reasonable it was. 6 footer was only $54. I would have spent alot more than that for cabinet grade ply.
Post by: Longcruise on February 08, 2024, 05:11:02 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 08, 2024, 05:22:25 PM
Jon, where did you order?
Micheal, I picked it up at one of our local building supply companies. They keep these in stock and can cut them to length for you. These are more expensive at your big box stores.
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 08, 2024, 06:31:06 PM
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Stic - you need to update that calender in your shop ! :bigsmyl:
Post by: Noah70 on February 08, 2024, 08:19:22 PM
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Forgot to hit “use” :knothead:
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 08, 2024, 09:16:48 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 08, 2024, 09:18:37 PM
Mark it is 66in. Total. I got it refined a bit more tonight, but didn't heat it up yet. I should though...
Post by: 4 point on February 08, 2024, 09:23:17 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 08, 2024, 09:54:27 PM
Beautiful guys!!
Mark it is 66in. Total. I got it refined a bit more tonight, but didn't heat it up yet. I should though...
:bigsmyl:
Post by: canopyboy on February 09, 2024, 07:02:36 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 09, 2024, 09:29:08 AM
Post by: Kirkll on February 09, 2024, 03:02:41 PM
Its Chechen and phenolic. The other side of the chechen is much better.
Will have some accents in there too,thinking maybe yellow and ?
What type of phenolic are you using in that riser?
Post by: John Scifres on February 09, 2024, 04:17:16 PM
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Post by: kennym on February 09, 2024, 05:13:19 PM
Its Chechen and phenolic. The other side of the chechen is much better.
Will have some accents in there too,thinking maybe yellow and ?
What type of phenolic are you using in that riser?
It's paper phenolic, supposed to be same as Bear uses....
Post by: kennym on February 09, 2024, 05:22:35 PM
I should be good on posting for about three weeks now … :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: Longcruise on February 09, 2024, 05:46:34 PM
https://youtu.be/Nrtg2ivkK_Q?si=Dtc7mS78xL5KY-tk
Such a neat and organized shop! What do you do with all those batteries 🔋🤔?
Post by: Longcruise on February 09, 2024, 05:52:11 PM
Post by: jess stuart on February 09, 2024, 06:09:34 PM
Post by: John Scifres on February 09, 2024, 06:24:37 PM
The batteries are for my boat. It's in winter storage so they stay here to keep maintained. I actually switched over to lithium ion late last year so they may just be for emergency power from now on. Except the starter battery.
The shop's not always that neat :)
Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 09, 2024, 06:58:30 PM
I should be good on posting for about three weeks now … :laughing: :laughing:
Quit stirring up trouble! :biglaugh:
Post by: Kirkll on February 09, 2024, 07:15:59 PM
Its Chechen and phenolic. The other side of the chechen is much better.
Will have some accents in there too,thinking maybe yellow and ?
What type of phenolic are you using in that riser?
It's paper phenolic, supposed to be same as Bear uses....
That's interesting.... How does it differ from linen Phenolic? I've never had much luck using linen phenolic or glass for accent lines. Haven't done that in many years. Where do yo purchase the paper phenolic? Kirk
Post by: 4 point on February 09, 2024, 07:21:43 PM
Post by: kennym on February 09, 2024, 07:45:00 PM
Its Chechen and phenolic. The other side of the chechen is much better.
Will have some accents in there too,thinking maybe yellow and ?
What type of phenolic are you using in that riser?
It's paper phenolic, supposed to be same as Bear uses....
That's interesting.... How does it differ from linen Phenolic? I've never had much luck using linen phenolic or glass for accent lines. Haven't done that in many years. Where do yo purchase the paper phenolic? Kirk
I may regret this, but I had it and it will be sharp . Hope the wood is stable! I don't like thin glass or phenolic in a riser for that reason, later you can feel the joint sometimes. Hopefully the spectra between it and the Chechen will act as a buffer...
I got this from Mike at Rosewood Shop. He has big pieces too if you wanted to do a solid riser.
Stuff seems a lot harder than linen phen.
Post by: kennym on February 09, 2024, 07:45:21 PM
I know what the Z wood is but what is the other?
Post by: 4 point on February 09, 2024, 08:00:02 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 09, 2024, 08:32:15 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 09, 2024, 08:51:14 PM
I’ve had great luck stabilizing the softer woods for the very reason you talk about with composites mixed with wood.
This bow is stabalized maple and sapele with all of those black and white accents being G10. Built that bow 2.5 years ago and zero movement.
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 09, 2024, 09:20:07 PM
For the 3 pc takedown, stabilized spalted maple/wenge with footed veneers on the back and black belly glass.
For the one piece, stabilized spalted maple and sapele, with black or sapele limbs.
Post by: kennym on February 10, 2024, 08:35:09 AM
I can see where stabilizing would make a huge difference there. :thumbsup:
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 10, 2024, 11:50:16 AM
All I like is finishing up now :bigsmyl:
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Post by: derekdiruz on February 10, 2024, 01:54:09 PM
I’m a bit behind the jump. Finally ground some core lams and a few veneers. This swap bow is either spalted maple or ingrown bark maple. Those pics are to follow!
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 10, 2024, 02:01:43 PM
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Post by: derekdiruz on February 10, 2024, 02:25:02 PM
Post by: Noah70 on February 10, 2024, 03:34:49 PM
Riser is cut and form fitted, limbs will be clear Gordonglass back and belly, StabilKor, with this blackened Quilted Maple on the back. Ground the belly lams from this edge grain Bubinga, spectacularly lacking in character but incredibly hard and dense. The wife came in and said the warm red/brown tones would nicely complement the Bocote in the riser. Humph! Don’t know how she got past the wards I had set. Anyhow, good to go , next week. Apparently I have domestic stuff too.
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Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 10, 2024, 04:35:11 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 10, 2024, 05:36:11 PM
First night wrestling this thing into shape.
They can be a pain sometimes :thumbsup:
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 10, 2024, 08:02:37 PM
Post by: jess stuart on February 10, 2024, 08:43:04 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 10, 2024, 08:49:46 PM
Thanks! The love of selfbows for me came from the lack of funds a d desire to have a custom bow. Hahaha
Here it is off of the caul. It doesn't appear to need further adjustment, so I'll put in the string grooves and clean up the thickness and side some more tonight, but no bending...I think...
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 10, 2024, 08:51:42 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 11, 2024, 06:54:45 AM
Post by: 4 point on February 11, 2024, 08:32:56 PM
I swear every swap bow I do I have an issue with. I grabbed a lam I had already ground for an accent piece. I think there was a reason it hadn’t been used. Some how it wasn’t ground even. Makes it unique I guess.
Post by: Mad Max on February 11, 2024, 09:25:23 PM
Bue, I don’t have a pattern sander. I just hand fit them. I need to get one built.
I swear every swap bow I do I have an issue with. I grabbed a lam I had already ground for an accent piece. I think there was a reason it hadn’t been used. Some how it wasn’t ground even. Makes it unique I guess.
Looks good from here
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 12, 2024, 08:43:51 AM
Post by: Kirkll on February 12, 2024, 10:30:30 AM
The one thing I did learn about hand fitting those type footings was to never force those tight together with clamps. I had my first riser failure doing that.
If I had a CNC set up and the knowledge of writing programs for them, I would build custom footing jigs for pattern sanders. Brandon Stahl from rose oak creations built some years ago that I was fortunate enough to have a couple custom jigs built.
He had it down to a science. They make footed risers much easier to build without all the sanding involved. Kirk
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 12, 2024, 11:29:17 AM
Kyle
Post by: dbeaver on February 12, 2024, 11:54:23 AM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 12, 2024, 12:32:56 PM
Kyle
Post by: BO-R on February 12, 2024, 04:47:51 PM
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Post by: 4 point on February 13, 2024, 11:38:42 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 13, 2024, 11:41:22 AM
Post by: Kirkll on February 13, 2024, 12:05:12 PM
I know a guy he's here if he wants to do templates.______
I could provide some detailed photos of the ones i had built by Brandon for design lay out. I believe he set his up for .050 accent strips, but they still work well using .030-.060 accents....
The problem that exists is that different riser shapes need different shape footings. The ones i had made fit my 17-19" Sasquatch SS risers, and the first Gen sasquatch risers, but do not work well my TD Bare risers or my Flatliner either.
The way Brandon did it was have the guys send a template shape of the riser to him with a prefered footing shape drawn on it. He programed the cnc to match the drawing on the riser template somehow. Then he set up patterns for location pins and provided drill jigs, so after you rough cut the riser blocks on the band saw, they are held in place with location pins and used a couple bolts to hold them in place.
I could do a video on how these work if someone is interested in building some of these fine jigs. Kirk
Post by: dbeaver on February 13, 2024, 12:10:02 PM
First time having these three together and I thought the colors complimented nicely
Black limba with ipe accents and maple ibeam. Should look nice when carved up
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Post by: Kirkll on February 13, 2024, 12:13:24 PM
I’ve seen those pattern sander drums for drill presses. I always worried about not keeping the sanding surface square. I have a really good drill press and there’s still a little side to side movement in the chuck.
It's actually very hard on a std drill press using a sanding drum. they are not really designed to take that lateral pressure. Mike is right about those Robo drum sanders. they are junk...
For doing a lot of pattern sanding its best to use an edge sander of some sort with a belt. Although.... That belt sander set up that was powered by a drill press that one of the guys here has posted would probably work fine if you have a way of securing it solid and square to the table. .02 cents worth. Kirk
Post by: Buemaker on February 13, 2024, 12:58:30 PM
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Post by: kennym on February 13, 2024, 01:33:16 PM
Then the cores are a blast from the past ,shop made action wood made with .005” tapers , walnut to tip for light weight, maple to center . Not sure if anybody remembers but I made these for a trade bow that Thad Soy got …
This should get me til first of April... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: 4 point on February 13, 2024, 01:51:16 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 13, 2024, 02:08:18 PM
Not sure the lams match riser enough?
Then the cores are a blast from the past ,shop made action wood made with .005” tapers , walnut to tip for light weight, maple to center . Not sure if anybody remembers but I made these for a trade bow that Thad Soy got …
This should get me til first of April... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
I guess it's OK :o
Post by: kennym on February 13, 2024, 02:51:31 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 13, 2024, 03:11:27 PM
Roy:)
Post by: Mad Max on February 13, 2024, 03:17:08 PM
They look like crap.
Roy:)
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on February 13, 2024, 03:17:33 PM
This should get me til first of April... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Looky here mister... :knothead:
:biglaugh:
Post by: kennym on February 13, 2024, 03:17:37 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 13, 2024, 03:24:52 PM
Post by: Kirkll on February 13, 2024, 07:17:43 PM
Kirk
Post by: kennym on February 13, 2024, 07:20:52 PM
I remember laying up someaction would with maple and walnut many years ago and the limbs had some good snap to em… pretty expensive lams though with all the time and glue. I laid mine up with urac 185 to save on epoxy.
Kirk
Thad told me that bow was the fastest he had, but I figured he was just bein nice... :)
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 13, 2024, 08:36:28 PM
Post by: kennym on February 13, 2024, 08:45:58 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 13, 2024, 11:00:41 PM
A long .ongoing time ago somebody did some core lams of carbon and buying a. Might have been Adcock. Can't remember the results tho.
Hey Mike, what's the alcohol content in that Pickle flavored Diet Coke you've been playing with? :biglaugh:
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on February 13, 2024, 11:05:20 PM
Kirk I would be very interested in seeing the video on those if you find the time . :thumbsup:I know a guy he's here if he wants to do templates.______
I could provide some detailed photos of the ones i had built by Brandon for design lay out. I believe he set his up for .050 accent strips, but they still work well using .030-.060 accents....
The problem that exists is that different riser shapes need different shape footings. The ones i had made fit my 17-19" Sasquatch SS risers, and the first Gen sasquatch risers, but do not work well my TD Bare risers or my Flatliner either.
The way Brandon did it was have the guys send a template shape of the riser to him with a prefered footing shape drawn on it. He programed the cnc to match the drawing on the riser template somehow. Then he set up patterns for location pins and provided drill jigs, so after you rough cut the riser blocks on the band saw, they are held in place with location pins and used a couple bolts to hold them in place.
I could do a video on how these work if someone is interested in building some of these fine jigs. Kirk
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 14, 2024, 09:01:28 AM
Like Kirk said I had one made buy Brandon that has a jig for drilling location holes then pinned pieces for marking. Then ruff cut with bandsaw then using the location holes and Dowell pins on the jig for profilig. The drill jigs and profiling guides where of phenolic. The drill jig has 1/4 drill bushings pressed into it. He had it down pat.
Post by: Kirkll on February 14, 2024, 10:02:56 AM
Kirk
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on February 14, 2024, 10:28:35 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 14, 2024, 01:59:50 PM
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Got some drilling done and limbs mounted. With tillering blocks the tiller is offsome but if the weight is close can be adjusted.
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Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 14, 2024, 05:24:28 PM
Post by: kennym on February 14, 2024, 05:38:13 PM
Jon, Did you make the form like that to keep it narrower?
Post by: canopyboy on February 14, 2024, 05:43:24 PM
Anyhow, I did make a bit of a start today. I at least did a little stalking and decided on what kind style of bow I might make. I always try to do something new in a swap, but there's a lot going on this year so I think I should stick with something I know. Then I went and cleaned my shop to the point where I could get all the way in and look around. I even picked out some wood. I think. Maybe I'll at least do some of those fancy spliced veneers for my "new" thing this year.
Post by: Mad Max on February 14, 2024, 05:51:28 PM
Dry run - everything is tighter than a ……………..? All set to go, just not tonite, its Valentine’s Day and I think I’m cooking.
Not sure why you did your form this way :dunno: A tighter radius may not close up on a Recurve form like this, Don't ask me how I know. :nono: :)
Is the glass running up the belly ramps of the riser??
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 14, 2024, 05:58:04 PM
Gonna like that handle Mike!!
Jon, Did you make the form like that to keep it narrower?
Not quite sure what the question is.
The form is 1-7/8 wide.
I’m trying some of this carbonized woven bamboo flooring that that has been talked about recently and my lams ended up at 1-5/8. So I did rip all the laminations and glass to 1-5/8. I routered out slots on the butt and the tip side of the form where I can clamp a guide block on either side to keep the lama from sliding side to side. I can remove them after it’s under pressure. We’ll see how it worked in a few hrs.
Post by: Smguinnip on February 14, 2024, 06:25:14 PM
Post by: Noah70 on February 14, 2024, 07:34:35 PM
Not sure why you did your form this way :dunno: A tighter radius may not close up on a Recurve form like this, Don't ask me how I know. :nono: :)
Is the glass running up the belly ramps of the riser??
Not quite sure what you mean? Yes, the glass runs up the riser belly all the way on both limbs.
Here’s a picture of the previous bow that came off the form
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Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 14, 2024, 08:43:51 PM
Post by: Noah70 on February 14, 2024, 09:21:16 PM
I always have the fire hose on the belly of the bow.
Thank you! I get that, pressure pushes the limb on to the form radius rather than in to it. I think you’re right, that likely would be better. This limb shape is a copy of a TD limb I’ve been building for about a dozen bows, and I only had an issue once with some tiny air bubbles at the start of the radius. So that may have been the cause. If it happens again, I’ll look into flipping it.
Regards,
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 14, 2024, 09:32:59 PM
If you are wondering about this section. It’s simply not needed and it keeps the end of the hose from sticking up unnecessarily high and close to the light bulbs.
Post by: Mad Max on February 14, 2024, 09:50:43 PM
Max:
I always have the fire hose on the belly of the bow.
Thank you! I get that, pressure pushes the limb on to the form radius rather than in to it. I think you’re right, that likely would be better. This limb shape is a copy of a TD limb I’ve been building for about a dozen bows, and I only had an issue once with some tiny air bubbles at the start of the radius. So that may have been the cause. If it happens again, I’ll look into flipping it.
Regards,
:thumbsup:
Post by: Mad Max on February 14, 2024, 09:52:24 PM
Getting some work done tonight. Good looking wood combo's glass guys. I went with a sapwood heartwood osage combo. Lol
Looks good already Dave :jumper:
Post by: kennym on February 15, 2024, 07:49:22 AM
Kenny,
If you are wondering about this section. It’s simply not needed and it keeps the end of the hose from sticking up unnecessarily high and close to the light bulbs.
Gotcha!!
Post by: Buemaker on February 15, 2024, 09:27:14 AM
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 15, 2024, 12:38:43 PM
That's like clamp city going on there.
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 15, 2024, 12:41:33 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on February 15, 2024, 01:28:19 PM
Nice stick :thumbsup:
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Post by: Mad Max on February 15, 2024, 08:42:26 PM
Max:
I always have the fire hose on the belly of the bow.
Thank you! I get that, pressure pushes the limb on to the form radius rather than in to it. I think you’re right, that likely would be better. This limb shape is a copy of a TD limb I’ve been building for about a dozen bows, and I only had an issue once with some tiny air bubbles at the start of the radius. So that may have been the cause. If it happens again, I’ll look into flipping it.
Regards,
It's fine for bigger recurves :bigsmyl:
Post by: Buemaker on February 16, 2024, 04:06:47 AM
Post by: kennym on February 16, 2024, 08:49:44 AM
Post by: Mad Max on February 16, 2024, 09:02:28 AM
Looks awesome Bue!
x2
Post by: kennym on February 16, 2024, 11:56:33 AM
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Post by: Longcruise on February 16, 2024, 12:46:57 PM
Cleaned up on the sides and made parallel.
Looking good 👍. I can't help but wonder how that purple heart core is going to work out. Have you used it previously?
Post by: Buemaker on February 16, 2024, 12:56:31 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 16, 2024, 01:23:00 PM
Post by: kennym on February 16, 2024, 01:27:32 PM
I’m painting the real one :laughing:
Post by: Mad Max on February 16, 2024, 01:46:27 PM
One post per week , that takes me to about July I think … :biglaugh:
:thumbsup:
Are you sure you will live that long? :saywhat:
Post by: kennym on February 16, 2024, 02:49:18 PM
One post per week , that takes me to about July I think … :biglaugh:
:thumbsup:
Are you sure you will live that long? :saywhat:
Never know, really didn't figure I'd make it to 25 , and that was a few ago... :biglaugh:
Post by: Mad Max on February 16, 2024, 02:55:34 PM
Post by: BO-R on February 17, 2024, 11:16:53 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 17, 2024, 11:26:51 AM
Post by: kennym on February 17, 2024, 06:51:55 PM
My victim is due north_south_east or west :archer2:
But mostly west I heard … :bigsmyl:
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 17, 2024, 07:58:36 PM
Post by: Noah70 on February 17, 2024, 08:06:08 PM
Temporary nocks this morning , then set in 18” tiller stick, both limbs dead even, then laid out at full draw for limb bend profile, still even, tips within 1/8”. I love it when a plan works.
Weight 1 lb under target, but the victim is getting older by the day so no problem. :laughing:
Will start applying tips, underlays, overlays, gadgets (maybe), etc. in next few days, then leaving for a week or so. Cheers!
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Post by: kennym on February 17, 2024, 09:31:58 PM
Love the veneers
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 17, 2024, 11:05:58 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on February 18, 2024, 07:33:15 AM
What a great looking bow Noah! Great work and that veneer looks awesome.
X2 :thumbsup:
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 18, 2024, 07:37:55 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 18, 2024, 07:43:36 AM
Post by: Kirkll on February 18, 2024, 08:48:26 AM
I used to take my chain saws to the saw shop, and never really have done much but sharpen my own. But the cost of small engine repair has got way out of hand, and a lot of the old saw shops around here that catered to all the loggers have slowly closed over the years, as well as the loggers themselves…
I do much better with woodworking, than dealing with mechanics work. I just don’t have as much patience with spring loaded gismos with tiny screws that need specialty tools that I don’t have on hand when I need them. I went clear through this saw with a new carb, new coil, new fuel lines and filters, and even cleaned out the carbon on the spark arrester. All I need to do now is adjust the carb a bit for higher top end rpms, and clean up my mess…. I can’t believe I killed a whole day tearing this thing apart…. But… I got her going again. Kirk
Post by: kennym on February 18, 2024, 08:58:14 AM
Anymore mechanicin just don’t call out to me … :biglaugh:
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 18, 2024, 01:33:18 PM
Kirk when I was in high school a buddy and I worked on trucks and jeeps , stuffed v8s where they weren’t supposed to be , body
work such as it was and put rings in my two stroke dirt bike many times .
Been there done that too ole timer:)
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 18, 2024, 02:41:41 PM
Post by: kennym on February 18, 2024, 02:44:02 PM
I mean really , got one in the easy bake oven... :goldtooth:
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 18, 2024, 03:28:48 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 18, 2024, 04:38:32 PM
Kyle
Post by: Mad Max on February 18, 2024, 05:13:00 PM
I got a little done so far today. I can say, it takes a minute to rip land off it a handsaw. The cedar plane is only 1/2” thick so I cut a piece of black cherry I will taper for a core. Since I need about 1-1.125” thick at the handle are. And it’s gonna be a little chore as I will taper with a rasp before I clean it up on the belt sander.
Kyle
You need to fix that spelling Kyle :)
Bamboo back ERC with cherry core, cool :thumbsup:
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 18, 2024, 05:22:25 PM
I’m hoping it’ll turn out like I’m hoping. We’ll see. I’ll probably spend my next working day on it. Today I’m fighting with a snaky Osage.
Kyle
Post by: Kirkll on February 18, 2024, 06:13:47 PM
There are some pretty good chainsaw artist out there now days so I reckon it's OK for you to saw a trade bow out :bigsmyl:
Actually..... The wood i selected for this swap bow was harvested and rough cut into slabs with my chainsaw many years ago. The black walnut came from large branches of a tree that still stands in the SE corner of our property, and the Curly maple came from rather large trees i was cutting for firewood on my neighbors 40 acre spread to the south of us....
i got the first footing laid up this morning, and have the second lay up cooking right now. I milled some very thin white ash branch wood i used for accent lines that came from yet another tree in my front yard. It should look pretty sharp.... Riser block photos tomorrow....
I've also started milling my lams and wedges.... the combination of fossilized bamboo, Black walnut, and rock hard maple will be used for my first lay up experiment....
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Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 18, 2024, 07:16:18 PM
Post by: Kirkll on February 18, 2024, 09:31:12 PM
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Got her milled, hardware installed, & Ready to mount limbs, ground the lams and power wedges, and i'm ready for the first limb lay up...
I started a photo album for the build so its easier to post progress. Kirk
https://photos.app.goo.gl/65qB8TLhqTR4FJzB6
Post by: Buemaker on February 19, 2024, 05:20:33 AM
Post by: Mad Max on February 19, 2024, 08:04:02 AM
Here is what the riser block looks like....
Got her milled, hardware installed, & Ready to mount limbs, ground the lams and power wedges, and i'm ready for the first limb lay up...
I started a photo album for the build so its easier to post progress. Kirk
https://photos.app.goo.gl/65qB8TLhqTR4FJzB6
Looking good so far Kirk
I like that you are stepping outside of your comfort zone. :jumper:
You are guessing at a stack for the first layup??
Show all your "failure's" for hitting your target # please :tongue:
Post by: Buemaker on February 19, 2024, 08:09:18 AM
Post by: kennym on February 19, 2024, 09:38:47 AM
Post by: Kirkll on February 19, 2024, 10:25:14 AM
Here is what the riser block looks like....
Got her milled, hardware installed, & Ready to mount limbs, ground the lams and power wedges, and i'm ready for the first limb lay up...
I started a photo album for the build so its easier to post progress. Kirk
https://photos.app.goo.gl/65qB8TLhqTR4FJzB6
Looking good so far Kirk
I like that you are stepping outside of your comfort zone. :jumper:
You are guessing at a stack for the first layup??
Show all your "failure's" for hitting your target # please :tongue:
That’s the fun in this one Max…. The stack height is a total SWAG at this point. I didn’t even reference my bowyers log. It looks pretty beefy without glass, and I decided to use a double power lam for my wedge system rather than a solid wedge.
Doing this should lengthen the working portion of the limb and help distribute the load over the full limb length more evenly, which is common with self bows and board bows. I’ve also left out the tip wedges I typically use with this limb design. I figured I could always use external wedges and add them to the belly side if needed.
Once I get this set strung up, I’ll set up my video camera and we will see what happens. I think this ultimately is going to boil down to comprehension testing this fossilized bamboo belly. I ran a couple .002 maple tapers in the core and used thicker parallel fossilized bamboo lams belly and back for tiller adjustment.
The density of this particular resin impregnated woven bamboo is off the charts compared to any other bamboo I’ve used. So I’m thinking this will be the ultimate compression test.
I thought briefly about using IPE on the belly, as it’s a known commodity with Tri lam wood bows… but I figured what the hell… I’m going to give this new stuff a go.
Stay tuned…. Lay up today, fireworks tomorrow…. Kirk
Post by: Mad Max on February 19, 2024, 02:10:28 PM
Watching :thumbsup:
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Post by: Kirkll on February 19, 2024, 09:34:36 PM
I've added more photos to the build album link below on the process.
Tomorrow we get the thrill of victory, or the agony of defeat when i put a string on it.... I'm not flexing these limbs until that epoxy cures over night. Standard procedure.... Kirk
BTW..... you'll notice if you look at the limb surface closely that they have a shine to them... when i grind my lams i always use 40 grit paper. With this bow not having any glass backing, i coated the outer lams with epoxy before wrapping them in plastic and putting them in the form. This fills the sanding marks level, and it comes out of the form as smooth as glass.....An epoxy backing perhaps? ..... i use the same trick on my recurve hook overlays. i do them at lay up and coat them with epoxy....You cannot even feel the overlay transition after sanding....
https://photos.app.goo.gl/65qB8TLhqTR4FJzB6
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 20, 2024, 07:36:43 AM
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2024, 08:02:07 AM
Yes sir excess will grind off. Rather see it squeeze out than not.
Yep, testing once I cut back on glue when I was told I was using too much glue because I had quite a squeeze out. I made two sets of TD limbs. One pair lasted five years and the other five days.
Now I put all I want in there because you can't put it in later... :biglaugh:
I have plastic wrap under the bow and another on top, so after I put the air in hose, I take a scrap and just wipe down on the line of glue. It stays between the two sheets of plastic and you can just tear most of it off. gotta be careful tho, stuff can be sharp!!
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2024, 08:08:32 AM
I did nothing wrong :dunno:
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2024, 09:12:00 AM
I never used all my EA-40 before it was out of date, so It's KennyM's :knothead: fault for not having the correct size for me.
I did nothing wrong :dunno:
You just need to use more each time!! :laughing:
Post by: Kirkll on February 20, 2024, 10:25:56 AM
I never used all my EA-40 before it was out of date, so It's KennyM's :knothead: fault for not having the correct size for me.I go though about 4 gallons a year of EA 40, and it’s a lot more cost effective buying it by the gallon than the 6 quart kits. Last year I bought empty caulking tubes and loaded up a dozen at a time. First attempt was a bit messy, but I finally got it down to a science.
I did nothing wrong :dunno:
The caulking tube method I would highly recommend even for smaller quantities. The longevity would be much longer not being exposed to air every time you open the can. The application for mixing is a thing of beauty too. Two squeezes of the resin, and one on the hardener in a paper cup and you are good to go.
The only down side is that you need to keep the current tubes you are using above 60 degrees so it flows out of the caulking tube easily.
You can reuse the caulking tubes after they are empty, but getting the bottom back out is tricky without damaging it…. One refill per tube is all I do, then I buy more tubes. They are cheap, and it just takes all the waste or contamination out of the picture…. I’ve gone through 4 gallons using this method now, and it’s well worth the time and caulking tubes purchased. Kirk
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 20, 2024, 11:07:44 AM
We should put that in the Tips and Tricks thread.
I like to use Huntsmans epoxy and I think would be the ticket.
Thanks.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 20, 2024, 01:22:21 PM
Post by: Noah70 on February 20, 2024, 01:51:12 PM
Since none of you know if you are the victim, all should chime in. Then when I get the real victims response, I’ll go with that. Or maybe take the majority - democracy, you know?
Thanks in advance!!
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Post by: 4 point on February 20, 2024, 02:37:23 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2024, 02:39:06 PM
I like the dark one
Me too :bigsmyl:
Post by: Kirkll on February 20, 2024, 02:52:40 PM
I like the dark overlays myself, but the stark white might be a bit much.... maybe a golder color instead of white, or something that matches the tip overlay color might look better. Kirk
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 20, 2024, 03:02:36 PM
BTW, no-one else needs to reply because that one is coming to Iowa……I hope!
Post by: Kirkll on February 20, 2024, 03:17:40 PM
Here are a few photos and a little info fist.... I profiled it from 1.375" to about 3/4" at the tips for rough stringing purpose, and filed the temp tip notches in at 66" length. The first brace was done with a long string and a 5" brace and she came out about 7/8" positive.
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The tiller process was done with a palm sander and 80 grit paper, much like i tiller my glass bows. It actually took very little sanding belly and back, with a slight amount of trap to the belly to hit even tiller. here she is after i hit even tiller.
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I had eased the edges using 80 & 150 grit both belly and back of the limbs before putting it on the tiller tree. See the link posted below for the video....
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hJgqBU9sc5TwKNF59
Back to the drawing board.... :biglaugh: I'd be interested to hear any feed back. i was a bit disappointed that this fossilized bamboo didn't hold up better..... from the looks of the break i'd say the back let go first. unfortunately i didn't film this with my high speed camera, i just used my phone. So i don't think i can slow it down enough to see a frame by frame of it coming apart. I've added a bunch of pics of the broken limb in the album link below. What do you think guys?
https://photos.app.goo.gl/65qB8TLhqTR4FJzB6
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2024, 03:54:54 PM
I'm not much on all wood bows tho...
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2024, 04:10:48 PM
Prob the camera angle but looked like the right limb was bending a little more off end of wedge.
I'm not much on all wood bows tho...
Video was backwards but like kenny said bottom limb (right side of video).
That bamboo could be to much for the core. :dunno:
I would say with all wood limbs to draw without holding, but you have to test it, so I don't know.
Post by: Kirkll on February 20, 2024, 04:20:26 PM
Prob the camera angle but looked like the right limb was bending a little more off end of wedge.
I'm not much on all wood bows tho...
Video was backwards but like kenny said bottom limb (right side of video).
That bamboo could be to much for the core. :dunno:
I would say with all wood limbs to draw without holding, but you have to test it, so I don't know.
That was a rock hard maple core.... Look at the photos closely of the break itself...the nice clean break on the belly side was straight accross. That tells me the back came apart first and the belly snaped last.... I did a slower motion video with a bit of editing here, but i still cannot see it actually come apart. I may have to set up my high speed video camera and break the other limb to be sure....
here is that clip.... i've watched it a half dozen times and cannot really see it come apart....
https://youtu.be/-GDulwRiI94?si=QBjh-DCpYAD2BdyI
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 20, 2024, 04:31:36 PM
Dang that sucks she blew. I missed it, what was the back layer? Since it didn’t blow until far in the draw I wonder if going 1/4” wider and a smidge thinner with the combo would hold without a significant drop in performance potential.
Kyle
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2024, 04:58:47 PM
:dunno:
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 20, 2024, 05:09:54 PM
Getting pretty close. Got it pulling straight today needsmore sanding and tip shaping. I am not even gonna show you all how I ruff out the tips with my spindle sander. You might say one slip and it's done for :biglaugh:
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Post by: kennym on February 20, 2024, 05:25:40 PM
Post by: Buemaker on February 20, 2024, 05:26:27 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 20, 2024, 05:38:19 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 20, 2024, 05:51:21 PM
Post by: Smguinnip on February 20, 2024, 07:03:21 PM
Noah70, if that bow is heading my way, I’d take the burl even though they both look really nice.
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2024, 07:13:19 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 20, 2024, 07:26:33 PM
Sorry that sucker blew up but entertaining at least. :goldtooth:
I'm also experimenting with the fossilized bamboo. My thoughts so far:
-it is definitely stiffer than regular action-boo
-If done some rudimentary spine tests with it and it does not bend as easily and did not take a set like the action-boo did
-looking at the way the grain splintered on your failed limb it seems the grain is really held together with the resin and does not have the long running grain of natural bamboo making it more brittle?
I just built a set of take down limbs with a new to me form and missed weight terribly. I dropped .010" in stack weight and came in at 75# vs the 45# I was aiming for. Some other factors that I'm sure added to the weight was the use of very stiff butt and tip wedges. I used Wenge on these limbs which were super stiff. I also used black Gordons glass on the belly which I rarely do. I've heard that adds some draw weight compared to clear glass.
I've never built wood limbs, but I usually see folks building tri-lambs. With those you only have 2 epoxy joints vs the 4 epoxy joints in your build. I'm wondering if it creates more shear force in the stack since I would assume that the epoxy line neither compresses or stretches with tension. I assume a thinner lamination with shear forces on both sides, working in opposite directions might not be able to absorb those forces? I don't know. Interested to hear your thoughts as you work through it.
Here are pics of my limbs with a 13.5* limb pad 75#@28 and another with a 18.5* limb pad 67#@28
I like the way they are bending though.
Post by: Kirkll on February 20, 2024, 08:45:28 PM
You may want to try those out at about 16 degrees and check the string tension. Have you ran an in line scale and played with different string lengths yet? Probably not , with those heavy limbs.
Once you get a set within 50-60# You can start tinkering with different limb pad angles and preload adjustments with different string lengths before mounting them on a block and measuring back to get your brace height established.....
That is definitely the right way to prototype limbs. good looking adjustable riser there. :clapper:
I think you may be right about this fossilized bamboo having shorter woven fibers vs vertical grain with elongated fibers...... But..... Under glass this stuff has proven to be excellent material so far and has decent test results vs the action boo i've used for so long. Kirk
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 20, 2024, 09:16:47 PM
So what you like about the riser Kenny?
Post by: kennym on February 20, 2024, 09:23:20 PM
Looks cool
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 20, 2024, 09:25:00 PM
Old form
Butt wedge 5/16-0 in 11.5"
Tip wedge .050-0 in 6"
Laminations 30" (Usually trimming off 1.5"-2" of the tip)
Typical stack (.245) for 45@28-62" at 13.5" on a 18"riser:
Clr G .040
Ven .020
A-boo .060 PAR
A-boo .073-.001 TAP
SC .012
BG .040
New form (These heavy limbs)
Butt wedge 5/16-0 in 11.5"
Tip wedge .030-0 in 9" (wanted the tip wedge to thicken the base of the curve a little more for stability)
28" laminations
This stack (.235) came in at 75@28-61" on a 17" riser
Clr G .040
Ven .020
F-boo .055 PAR
F-boo .068-.001 TAP
SC .012
BG .040
The new limb profile sitting above the old limb design in pic.
I'm just realizing in writing this out how much I shortened the working limb from 12.5" to 7.5". This may have been a factor :knothead:
I do need to get a string tension measuring system going. I've heard you talk about that since I've started, and it make sense to me. These limbs have a crap ton of tension as I've never had a bow so hard to string and have such a high note when the string is plucked.
I think you may be right about this fossilized bamboo having shorter woven fibers vs vertical grain with elongated fibers...... But..... Under glass this stuff has proven to be excellent material so far and has decent test results vs the action boo i've used for so long.
That makes me wonder if your limb didn't let go on the Belly as there wasn't any glass holding it down from buckling under compression. I think the glass spreads out the pressure over a longer surface area and won't allow a pinpoint fracture or failure.
Post by: Buemaker on February 21, 2024, 03:01:40 AM
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Post by: Mad Max on February 21, 2024, 09:08:23 AM
Post by: Kirkll on February 21, 2024, 11:28:15 AM
So what exactly is meant by fossilized. It sounds cool I guess.
So what you like about the riser Kenny?
This stuff is woven bamboo strands that are impregnated with resin and pressed together under pressure and cooked like the carbonized a boo was tempered. So it’s a solid bamboo product when it’s done, and retains a lot of the bamboo characteristics, but it’s much harder being resin impregnated. Think about your stabilized wood…. The only down side to this material so far I’ve seen is the mass weight. The vertical grain Aboo was considerably lighter…. But…. You don’t need as thick of lams using this stuff either and it has higher tensile strength, so I’m thinking it’s a push…. Kirk
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 21, 2024, 02:59:44 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on February 21, 2024, 08:52:01 PM
Tonight I got the width profiled and the bow has been cut to length. I also took a sneak peek at the spalted tamarind veneers on the belly.
Looks cool :thumbsup:
Post by: Kirkll on February 21, 2024, 09:43:06 PM
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I think you may be right about this fossilized bamboo having shorter woven fibers vs vertical grain with elongated fibers...... But..... Under glass this stuff has proven to be excellent material so far and has decent test results vs the action boo i've used for so long.
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That makes me wonder if your limb didn't let go on the Belly as there wasn't any glass holding it down from buckling under compression. I think the glass spreads out the pressure over a longer surface area and won't allow a pinpoint fracture or failure.
Actually i wend back and did a frame by frame look at the video and the last lam to snap was the belly, and there was no buckling... I've got a lot of experience with carbon belly bows buckling and shearing the bond from the belly lam. i'm quite certain its the back is what came apart on this last one....
I've got a complete change of attack i'm planning now, and i'll save it until i got limbs bending without fireworks next time to post photos....
Right now i've got a customers bow to concentrate on for a week or so. Kirk
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 21, 2024, 09:59:26 PM
Good to know. Looking forward to what you find out.
Post by: Buemaker on February 22, 2024, 06:39:58 AM
Post by: dbeaver on February 22, 2024, 07:30:52 AM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 22, 2024, 07:35:15 AM
Great work and always love seeing pics of your shop.
Post by: kennym on February 22, 2024, 05:43:23 PM
I put some overlays on this one but no pics.
I'm getting kinda attached to it so may have to go to plan B for the victim... :biglaugh:
Post by: Buemaker on February 22, 2024, 06:09:05 PM
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Post by: Crooked Stic on February 22, 2024, 06:41:56 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 22, 2024, 07:51:53 PM
For reference.
1- I narrowed them up, A LOT, down to 5/8" at the base of string grooves and roughly 1.125 at the end of the butt wedge. Still fairly stable and tracking good. That netted me 4#
2- I sanded about .008 off both the belly and the back for a total of .016 off the working section of the limbs. That netted another 9#
Any further than that and I'm afraid I'm gonna get too thin on the glass without knowing it.
Off to start another set of limbs or I've got another bow that is about half done that I know would hit weight. It's a looker too. I might be able to flush limbs with that one. I've never tried that before.
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 22, 2024, 08:33:25 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 22, 2024, 08:55:44 PM
That’s my fear as well.
I use adhesive backed 80grit on a wide block so I can hold it as square to the limb as possible. The narrow does of the block on the back and the wider side on the belly.
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 22, 2024, 09:31:52 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 22, 2024, 10:24:15 PM
Bonus is that it is a much better looking bow IMO.
Bocote and Curly Maple with footed veneers and back and belly. I think I’ll try some full overlays that run up the butt of the limbs and limb overlays. I like the looks of those but never tried it.
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 23, 2024, 10:21:59 AM
Don't ask :bigsmyl:
Post by: Kirkll on February 23, 2024, 10:58:53 AM
Well, late this afternoon I dove into these heavy limbs just to see how much weight I could take off of them. Ended up dropping 13# off of them and I don't feel safe going any further than that.
For reference.
1- I narrowed them up, A LOT, down to 5/8" at the base of string grooves and roughly 1.125 at the end of the butt wedge. Still fairly stable and tracking good. That netted me 4#
2- I sanded about .008 off both the belly and the back for a total of .016 off the working section of the limbs. That netted another 9#
Any further than that and I'm afraid I'm gonna get too thin on the glass without knowing it.
Off to start another set of limbs or I've got another bow that is about half done that I know would hit weight. It's a looker too. I might be able to flush limbs with that one. I've never tried that before.
You should run those heavy limbs you brought down 13# through the chronograph bro…. Those typically turn out to be the hottest thing off the bench. :thumbsup:
Btw…. When you are borderline sanding too much glass. Use calipers as you go, and hit the edge of the limbs with spray lacquer . You can see that glass thickness easier.
I use a palm sander with 80 grit for sanding glass to drop weight, but don’t recommend it to others because it’s real easy to screw up a limb. The type of palm sander you use makes a huge difference though. The low profile air sanders have the best balance and control, but I use one of those low profile Mirka electric models successfully. Kirk
Post by: jess stuart on February 23, 2024, 02:39:33 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on February 23, 2024, 06:31:22 PM
Well, my bow is not going to America. When I started to draw it I had a dead even tiller at brace, then drawing further the tiller changed, adjusting and drawing it further it changed again. Kept on like that and by the time I had a perfect tiller at full draw the bow was too light. All three lams Hickory, Purpleheart and Ipe looked perfect, but wood is wood, I suspect the Ipe belly was the culprit. In this case I do not think it would be wise to pike it. The good thing is that I have a light bow I can sell. So back to the drawing board, still have plenty time. Maybe glass this time, we will see. This was Bue’s night report, a tiny bit pi- -ed off.
Bummer Bue
Post by: kennym on February 23, 2024, 06:42:03 PM
Dang Bue, that always bites!!
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 23, 2024, 07:20:34 PM
Sure is pretty too.
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 23, 2024, 08:18:15 PM
N
E. W. KENNY :laughing:
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Post by: kennym on February 23, 2024, 08:26:16 PM
Post by: Kirkll on February 23, 2024, 08:46:02 PM
Well, my bow is not going to America. When I started to draw it I had a dead even tiller at brace, then drawing further the tiller changed, adjusting and drawing it further it changed again. Kept on like that and by the time I had a perfect tiller at full draw the bow was too light. All three lams Hickory, Purpleheart and Ipe looked perfect, but wood is wood, I suspect the Ipe belly was the culprit. In this case I do not think it would be wise to pike it. The good thing is that I have a light bow I can sell. So back to the drawing board, still have plenty time. Maybe glass this time, we will see. This was Bue’s night report, a tiny bit pi- -ed off.
Hey! At least it didn't blow up like mine did... :biglaugh:
That's what i did... I went back to glass and hit draw weight perfectly this time. But..... Being a fun project, i've got something a little different i threw into the mix this time. but i'm going to wait until i get my horn material and tip overlays completed before i post photos.
but i can say these limbs came out looking pretty "Wild"....... Kirk
Post by: Longcruise on February 23, 2024, 09:14:37 PM
Here are the two pieces of green Myrtle. I haven't decided which piece yet but either is going to be great. It will contribute nicely to the Hill tradition.
But....I'm making changes that will complicate hitting weight so I'll be doing a test bow first to establish a baseline.
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on February 24, 2024, 04:32:56 PM
Kyle
Post by: kennym on February 24, 2024, 05:27:31 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on February 25, 2024, 08:06:41 PM
I like that long underlay on the tip :thumbsup:
Post by: 4 point on February 25, 2024, 09:31:26 PM
Post by: Mad Max on February 25, 2024, 10:26:25 PM
I got everything glued up. It was to nice to be in the shop so I didn’t get much done this weekend.
You have a great start :goldtooth:
Post by: Smguinnip on February 26, 2024, 07:06:20 AM
What's up with the string holding the hose in place in your form? :dunno: :dunno:those are rubber bands to keep the hose attached to the top of the form, one less thing to handle during glue up.
Post by: dbeaver on February 26, 2024, 10:47:41 AM
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Post by: Mad Max on February 26, 2024, 02:42:39 PM
Progress in progress !! Lookin good guys!
For sure :)
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Post by: Mad Max on February 27, 2024, 08:30:42 PM
Is that a Craftsman work bench? I use mine all the time, Mine has to be 30 years old
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 27, 2024, 09:12:40 PM
Post by: kennym on February 27, 2024, 09:17:59 PM
I got the victims bow sprayed today. Prolly finish up tomorrow, I maybe first to ship this year.then I may decide to keep it and do another, :dunno: :bigsmyl:
We can’t have that!! I’m just gonna send mine and some sandpaper… :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: Noah70 on February 27, 2024, 10:22:14 PM
Max - the bench in the picture is the original Black & Decker Workmate, and I’ve had it for over 45 years. Had to replace the boards a couple years ago, but it is the single most used tool in the shop. Other than myself. We’re aging together.
Post by: Mad Max on February 28, 2024, 06:46:52 AM
Is that a Craftsman work bench? I use mine all the time, Mine has to be 30 years old
Max - the bench in the picture is the original Black & Decker Workmate, and I’ve had it for over 45 years. Had to replace the boards a couple years ago, but it is the single most used tool in the shop. Other than myself. We’re aging together.
:thumbsup: :laughing:
(https://i.imgur.com/LcLStO3.jpg)
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Post by: wood carver 2 on February 28, 2024, 04:17:24 PM
Is that a Craftsman work bench? I use mine all the time, Mine has to be 30 years old
Max - the bench in the picture is the original Black & Decker Workmate, and I’ve had it for over 45 years. Had to replace the boards a couple years ago, but it is the single most used tool in the shop. Other than myself. We’re aging together.
:thumbsup: :laughing:
(https://i.imgur.com/LcLStO3.jpg)
I have one of these as well. It’s at least 30 years old too. Back then they were built to last.
Dave.
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 28, 2024, 04:31:17 PM
I’m good with doing my own knocking points.
I typically send bows out to anyone with adjustable knock points tied on as I’m usually shooting it a fair bit before it goes out. If they have a different draw length, grip, release, you name it, they are probably going to have to move it a little while tuning their arrows anyway. My 2 cents.
Post by: jess stuart on February 28, 2024, 04:35:09 PM
Post by: Kirkll on February 28, 2024, 06:42:59 PM
Asking for all victims :archer2: do you prefer to do your own nicking point or can do tie on movable nicking points??
What on earth is a movable "nicking" point?
Post by: Crooked Stic on February 28, 2024, 09:38:42 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 28, 2024, 09:56:15 PM
Spent a couple of hrs putting this roughed in riser on a diet.
Thinking of stippling the grip a touch using this method I practiced a piece of scrap.
I like the texture on the right.
Post by: derekdiruz on February 28, 2024, 10:40:22 PM
Today I finalized my footing jigs, and glued up a test 19” riser for myself. Tomorrow I’ll cut it out and get overlays on it. This footing jig was the hold up to me starting the victims bow. Now that everything is rolling with it, I’ll source the lumber and final materials tomorrow for it, and start glue ups next week!
Post by: Kirkll on February 29, 2024, 09:47:00 AM
https://www.amazon.com/Double-Cut-Carbide-Rotary-Burr/dp/B07S8WRYH4/ref=sr_1_18?crid=30H98BH7479I3&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.f5u7rRW4oUKG-hvvJTXljn3RLuZ4O0RydA88DmIaXYcMyc2dDK44HFWoS1gw_F9CBWKsuzvRA68XRuBTVfFJvEvYUt7LiEoLtGfD_dduqihESUdd73yovSYeVBERTFYZa55GteH9EMokAaFKhEmCKxxomk9p7MuaLnNJxRcko-LBpHJzdhJe1iN89PFVdoC9V6SasDPnAVdLy2Zu6kl2FCljrl-HHA8b_aNECZsMsOo.LuA8UlmJf39gs8udcMaq9MD6SYT_m5MsAKNTKOp_39Q&dib_tag=se&keywords=dremel+tool+bits+for+wood&qid=1709217913&sprefix=Dremel+tool+bits%2Caps%2C172&sr=8-18
Post by: Buemaker on February 29, 2024, 01:10:26 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 29, 2024, 02:09:27 PM
Hey Jon, have you tried playing with a cone shaped burr for stippling yet?
I have not but just ordered those off your link. 😂
I really like having a random pattern with some overlap as I am not very good at keeping a consistent pattern and when I mess up it’s really noticeable.
I really would like to learn how to checker though. Just haven’t ever followed through with purchasing the files yet.
Post by: Mad Max on February 29, 2024, 02:56:04 PM
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I have not but just ordered those off your link. 😂
I really like having a random pattern with some overlap as I am not very good at keeping a consistent pattern and when I mess up it’s really noticeable.
I really would like to learn how to checker though. Just haven’t ever followed through with purchasing the files yet.
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What tool are you chucking your burr into?
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 29, 2024, 02:58:10 PM
What tool are you chucking your burr into?
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Just a standard dremel tool
Post by: kennym on February 29, 2024, 03:11:49 PM
Had a minute so did a little shaping and cut sight window
Now you gotta figure out if I flipped the pics :laughing:
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Post by: kennym on February 29, 2024, 03:13:31 PM
My new clamps are huge LOL
Post by: Mad Max on February 29, 2024, 04:49:18 PM
Just a standard dremel tool
:thumbsup:
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 29, 2024, 05:57:53 PM
Post by: Kirkll on February 29, 2024, 07:10:33 PM
https://photos.app.goo.gl/EXp9FbszeSKioPfR6
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I looked into getting set up with some checkering tools myself years ago, and just couldn’t get past the investment. That is an art form that takes some practice. I researched it thoroughly and decided to pass on that rabbit hole. Kirk
Post by: Jon Lipovac on February 29, 2024, 08:39:20 PM
Makes sense what you say about stipling the throat. It feels good to me, but I’ll know better after I get the first coats of finish on it and run a bunch of arrows through it.
Post by: Noah70 on March 01, 2024, 12:33:51 AM
Great looking work by all so far !!
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Figured it out - all good!
Post by: Mad Max on March 01, 2024, 07:14:06 AM
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Post by: Kirkll on March 01, 2024, 11:16:06 AM
Looking great Noah. Never seen a shelf overlay, nice touch. :clapper:
2X on the shelf overlay… that adds a cool looking detail….. I Might have to pirate that idea and give that a go sometime…. Good looking riser. :clapper:
Post by: Kirkll on March 01, 2024, 11:25:16 AM
Still need to cut her a bit deeper and lower the shelf some. May shoot it some first.
My new clamps are huge LOL
Couldn’t help notice those belly ramp overlays and the tooth detail in them. What have ya got going there? Kirk
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 01, 2024, 12:06:46 PM
Just need to tie in some arrow nocks and run some arrows through it and decide if I need to adjust anything. It’s just under 1/8” positive tiller at brace as is.
I usually shoot them in without string grooves on the back as well to see how the limbs are naturally tracking while shot. Anyone else do something similar?
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 01, 2024, 02:56:48 PM
To victim the first thing you will notice is the limbs do not touch the riser . Not to worry will pul down when struggling (preload) the last coat was a splatter coat texture.i done the tie on nock so once you get them where you want the you can glue or not. Shoot and enjoy.should be three Wednesday
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 01, 2024, 03:00:41 PM
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Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 01, 2024, 04:11:40 PM
Good looking bow you just sent out. Someone will be happy by the first of the week!
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Post by: dbeaver on March 01, 2024, 05:49:00 PM
got my tips and overlays on, Im tillering and then carving in the grip, Im already coming in 4 pounds over the max draw weight which leaves me plenty of room for tillering and sanding.
Post by: Kirkll on March 01, 2024, 06:40:31 PM
Decided to play hooky for a bit this morning and got the tips done and 95% of the final sanding done before I figured I should do some work today.
Just need to tie in some arrow nocks and run some arrows through it and decide if I need to adjust anything. It’s just under 1/8” positive tiller at brace as is.
I usually shoot them in without string grooves on the back as well to see how the limbs are naturally tracking while shot. Anyone else do something similar?
Looks like the dog was chewing on your tip overlays bro….. I hate it when that happens…. :biglaugh:
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 01, 2024, 09:37:24 PM
I need to build some trusses for a building tomorrow so I’m hoping I can get some bow work done Sunday. The wonky stave has been pulled to about 6” shy of full draw and I still need to taper and flatten the lams for the boo, cherry, cedar bow
Kyle
Post by: dbeaver on March 02, 2024, 07:42:58 PM
Rough cut the shelf and next is the fun part of carving out the grip area.
Post by: BO-R on March 03, 2024, 09:03:14 AM
I am still alittle behind..
Post by: kennym on March 03, 2024, 12:04:14 PM
But the colors match much better than I thought they would...
And weight is right on !
Post by: kennym on March 03, 2024, 03:14:53 PM
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Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 03, 2024, 03:16:47 PM
And weight is right on !
In other words. ‘I hit Jon’s weight on the money!’ :biglaugh:
Post by: kennym on March 03, 2024, 03:20:55 PM
And weight is right on !
In other words. ‘I hit Jon’s weight on the money!’ :biglaugh:
Anything is always possible Jon!! :biglaugh:
I'm liking the yellow accents , first time using yellow...
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 03, 2024, 03:28:13 PM
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Post by: kennym on March 03, 2024, 08:30:54 PM
It's actually a piece of yellow spectra that I had for some reason... Not sure why.
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Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 04, 2024, 05:02:18 PM
I hope it suits my victim.
Post by: Buemaker on March 04, 2024, 05:21:03 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 04, 2024, 06:28:30 PM
Jon,that one is looking very nice.
X2 :thumbsup:
Post by: jess stuart on March 04, 2024, 07:58:03 PM
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Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 04, 2024, 10:38:50 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys.
Boxed up and heading out UPS tomorrow.
I’ve said this before, but I’ll say it again. If you haven’t tried Pirate Shipping for your labels yet, you should give it a try.
This is shipping for $7.08 via UPS. Can’t be beat as far as I know.
Post by: Kirkll on March 05, 2024, 10:18:54 AM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 05, 2024, 10:45:25 AM
The label I printed for $7.08 included the normal $100 shipping. I usually ship this way because I'm a cheap skate and figure if I package it well enough, it's pretty hard to damage a take down.
To answer your question though, I just had the same label quoted with $900 insurance and it came back at $14.28
Pretty dang good.
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on March 05, 2024, 12:05:54 PM
Post by: derekdiruz on March 05, 2024, 04:48:50 PM
I’ll probably be gluing up Monday morning and looking to ship by end of next week.
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 05, 2024, 08:28:39 PM
Post by: kennym on March 05, 2024, 08:54:33 PM
Somebody :dunno: who should get a bow tomorrow.
Tracking number? :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 05, 2024, 10:37:29 PM
Post by: dbeaver on March 06, 2024, 08:13:59 AM
Sanding sealer has been built up and I'm about to finish sand and clear coat.
Question for the boys, I've been using wheel paint on my personal bows and getting what I would call okay results, sometimes a little runny in one spot and occasionally a cloudy spec or something like that. I can do a nice job with tru oil but it's not exactly as scratch resistant? The wheel paint makes a shell almost where the Tru oil soaks.
Help me sort this out fellas
Post by: kennym on March 06, 2024, 08:26:23 AM
I tried the wheel paint only but it was super thin and like you said runny, and took a ton of coats to seal up. Maybe so thin because it's to be sprayed on metal?
Post by: Kirkll on March 06, 2024, 10:37:26 AM
I better leave work early just in case my package shows up in the rain :biglaugh:
Sanding sealer has been built up and I'm about to finish sand and clear coat.
Question for the boys, I've been using wheel paint on my personal bows and getting what I would call okay results, sometimes a little runny in one spot and occasionally a cloudy spec or something like that. I can do a nice job with tru oil but it's not exactly as scratch resistant? The wheel paint makes a shell almost where the Tru oil soaks.
Help me sort this out fellas
Doing a professional grade finish with a rattle can is tough to pull off regardless of what material you are using. Not being able to regulate the spray pattern or flow rate makes it impossible to maintain any kind of consistency.
I have no experience with these wheel paint clear coats….
I’ve always recommended the Helmsman Spar varnish to guys using rattle cans. It’s far more durable than true oil, and easily sands and polishes out nicely to a satin finish using 0000 steel wool.
.02 cents worth…. Kirk
Post by: dbeaver on March 06, 2024, 01:10:51 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 06, 2024, 02:15:23 PM
1 coat every 10 min. for 6 coats
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 06, 2024, 02:18:39 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 06, 2024, 02:47:41 PM
If your wood is oily you have to seal it to keep the oils out of the finish.
Yes, I forgot that
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 06, 2024, 06:17:58 PM
Kyle
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 06, 2024, 06:28:09 PM
Kyle
Post by: Noah70 on March 06, 2024, 07:48:02 PM
Mine is pretty much ready to go for final coating. Final tiller on the limbs came out very nice, when the bow is flipped the flex curve tracings are identical on top of each other. I wasn’t totally enamoured with the full draw flex shape, felt it could use more out mid-limb, but I’m at the lower end of the requested weight, so thats where she stays. That being said, the draw is very smooth and even, the shot is sharp and very quick, with zero hand shock. And in the words of Doug Marcaida from Forged in Fire - “it will kill !“ It was -7 Celsius and I wasn’t going to stand around and make multiple groupings.
Will send shots next week of finished bow prior to shipping.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 06, 2024, 08:46:31 PM
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Post by: kennym on March 06, 2024, 09:25:33 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 06, 2024, 09:34:28 PM
That is a damn sexy bow you built there!!!
My bow will land on my victims door tomorrow.
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 06, 2024, 09:36:25 PM
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on March 07, 2024, 02:05:40 PM
I better leave work early just in case my package shows up in the rain :biglaugh:I tried the wheel paint the first couple bows I built just not tough enough for me so a few weeks ago I had two bows to spray and I used this 2K product in a rattle Can you push a button on the bottom of the can to activate really quite impressed, Matte finish i put it through a number of tests and so far tough as nails . I am set up now to spray but to get a Matte product where I live. It’s ridiculous. The cost 300 a quart anyways I’ve ordered some from Ontario but in a pinch. I would certainly use this product again it’s not inexpensive though $40 Canadian Just an FYI. Cheers [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
Sanding sealer has been built up and I'm about to finish sand and clear coat.
Question for the boys, I've been using wheel paint on my personal bows and getting what I would call okay results, sometimes a little runny in one spot and occasionally a cloudy spec or something like that. I can do a nice job with tru oil but it's not exactly as scratch resistant? The wheel paint makes a shell almost where the Tru oil soaks.
Help me sort this out fellas
Post by: Mad Max on March 07, 2024, 03:14:49 PM
:thumbsup:Some fine bows again this year !!
:thumbsup: X2
Post by: Longcruise on March 07, 2024, 03:46:43 PM
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I tried the wheel paint the first couple bows I built just not tough enough for me.....
I've found it to be very tough but it has to be applied strictly according to instructions. Three coats 20 minutes apart and seven days to cure with nothing further applied until cured.
I like the look of the stuff you posted though. Is it a one coat and done? Is the can a dead soldier after one use?
Post by: Longcruise on March 07, 2024, 03:55:51 PM
Post by: Kirkll on March 07, 2024, 04:18:13 PM
here is a peek....
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Post by: dbeaver on March 07, 2024, 04:29:58 PM
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on March 07, 2024, 05:36:38 PM
Found the pot life. 48 hours. Makes it practical to do multiple bows during that period.yes the pot life is they say 48 hours it was actually longer than that but still the can is done after that. I applied it the same as any spray Auto clear 10 or 15 minutes between multiple coats the final coat, I backed off on the spray and got a bit of a texture, little pricey, for one bow I did spray two at the same time.
Post by: Buemaker on March 07, 2024, 06:14:14 PM
Post by: Noah70 on March 07, 2024, 06:48:38 PM
Interesting horn nocks, looks kind of strangled. ;). :laughing:
That looks very interesting, Kirk. What is the laminate on the back, very cool pattern
Post by: Kirkll on March 07, 2024, 08:04:13 PM
Interesting horn nocks, looks kind of strangled. ;)
Yup.... "Strangled horn nocks" it's a new rage! :banghead: I got my tip notches kinda deep on these limbs. This horn material is softer than the phenolic i typically use, and it almost got away from me..... But they should hold up fine.
Post by: Kirkll on March 07, 2024, 08:10:21 PM
Interesting horn nocks, looks kind of strangled. ;). :laughing:
That looks very interesting, Kirk. What is the laminate on the back, very cool pattern
The backing is S glass over silk in a leopard skin pattern. In the next couple days i should have it wrapped up and show cased and get some finished photos.
I'm going to do a film clip on shaping the riser on this one before i'm done too.
Here are the riser overlays cooking..... EA 40 cured in 1 hour with a little help from a heat strip.
Kirk
Post by: OldRawhide42 on March 07, 2024, 08:29:17 PM
Post by: kennym on March 07, 2024, 08:56:43 PM
Post by: Kirkll on March 07, 2024, 09:13:04 PM
Kirk where do you get S glass
Gordon made the stuff years ago, and i dont think it's available now.... I got this stuff from Bill Howland when he shut his shop down 10-12 years ago and bailed out. I bought a bunch of Mics stuff from him when he was cleaning house. I miss that guy. He was a character... Kirk
Post by: Longcruise on March 08, 2024, 01:50:13 PM
Thanks Noah,
That is a damn sexy bow you built there!!!
My bow will land on my victims door tomorrow.
Indeed it did!! Apparently delivered late in the evening. I discovered it this morning while checking the weather at the front door. I had received an email notice yesterday evening but overlooked it.
It spent the night out in rain and snow. I have house guests this past week and am being kept very busy and must go out the door in a few minutes.
A few quick photos. My grandson doing the full draw indoors. He's drawing to about 30 inches! I have a lot to say about this bow but it will have to be later.
Jon has done a wonderful job on it.
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Post by: jess stuart on March 08, 2024, 04:30:04 PM
I finally found some time to get my lams milled. Hopefully get her glued up soon.
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Post by: kennym on March 08, 2024, 05:36:24 PM
Post by: Longcruise on March 08, 2024, 06:41:08 PM
I and grandson had a little shooting session. We used some 645 grain carbons, 530 grain woodies and some home doweled pine arrows at about 500 grains.
The 530 woodies shot the best. It's too cold to run the chronograph but I predict that with a 10 gpp arrow this bow will be shooting in the 190 range.
More to come
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 08, 2024, 09:12:01 PM
Glad you like it so far Mike.
I’m pretty skeptical about hitting 190.
I’ll be happy if you get anything over 180 with it. Looking forward to it though. 👍
Post by: 4 point on March 08, 2024, 09:18:02 PM
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Post by: Crooked Stic on March 08, 2024, 09:47:18 PM
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Post by: dbeaver on March 09, 2024, 08:02:03 AM
4 point I'll be waiting for that one to show up on .y porch. :bigsmyl:
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 09, 2024, 08:53:01 AM
Post by: Kirkll on March 09, 2024, 02:01:47 PM
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HjhkVegWckd8TY9V6
Kirk
Post by: Buemaker on March 09, 2024, 02:47:17 PM
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Post by: Mad Max on March 09, 2024, 05:53:19 PM
Post by: kennym on March 10, 2024, 11:53:44 AM
So still 39* at 11:00 so I set up the hooter and ran it thru, untuned arrow, averaged draw weight and weighed the arrow.
Stats:
28" - 10 gpp - 180 average
30" - 9.19 gpp - 194 average
You tall guys have the advantage on the rest of us!! :laughing:
You can deduct 4-5 fps with fingers if you are drawing what you think you are... :goldtooth:
Post by: Kirkll on March 10, 2024, 12:55:11 PM
Post by: kennym on March 10, 2024, 01:23:53 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 10, 2024, 01:42:56 PM
The only explanation IMO, is that when anyone shoots with fingers they are pulling back further when they release, especially through a chrono. We are, after all, wanting a bigger number.
I know that for me, on longer shots, I subconsciously pull North of my normal draw length compared to shooting groups at a 15-20yd target.
All things being EXACTLY the same draw length, it’s physically impossible for fingers to be faster than a release
Post by: Kirkll on March 10, 2024, 02:02:34 PM
We've actually done tests with a shooting machine set ups that automatically triggered the release when it hits 28" with no stopping or hesitation the exact same way a flight shooter does. It has proven to yield higher numbers, than holding at full draw before release.
Granted.... In most cases your shooting machine numbers will be higher due to the release itself. but..... we are splitting hairs here.... Kirk
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 10, 2024, 02:05:42 PM
Post by: 4 point on March 10, 2024, 02:21:54 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 10, 2024, 02:47:11 PM
Post by: Noah70 on March 10, 2024, 02:51:25 PM
Kirk, I watched the video, very interesting and great control with the sanders. I’ll presume the Moustache filters to around N95? :goldtooth: I can’t do it any longer, have to wear masks or I’m coughing and choking for the next week. Too many years of neglecting it.
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 10, 2024, 03:34:20 PM
Don't know much about flight shooting bur for comparison repetition of method is needed.
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 10, 2024, 03:45:24 PM
Post by: kennym on March 10, 2024, 04:07:56 PM
Any bow is fast with light arrows and an orangutan draw!! :laughing: :laughing:
Post by: Kirkll on March 10, 2024, 04:22:12 PM
4Point - I’d be fine with anything you decide to send, heavy draw ok too as long as its not over 55,, don’t want to buy new arrows.
Kirk, I watched the video, very interesting and great control with the sanders. I’ll presume the Moustache filters to around N95? :goldtooth: I can’t do it any longer, have to wear masks or I’m coughing and choking for the next week. Too many years of neglecting it.
N95 moustache??? :biglaugh: :biglaugh: That's good... :clapper: :clapper: Ya i'm guilty of not wearing a dust mask a lot. It will probably be the death of me before its all said and done.
Post by: Kirkll on March 10, 2024, 04:27:33 PM
Kirk
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Did i break the rules here?
Yup, think you did! :biglaugh:
Watched the video. It set off an episode of tool envy. 🔧
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 10, 2024, 05:29:13 PM
Did i break the rules here?
Haha!
I knew you where my kinda people!😆
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 10, 2024, 07:14:53 PM
How do you guys do it?
Post by: Kirkll on March 10, 2024, 07:50:22 PM
Nice looking set up you got there… Are you going to mount that on the wall of your shop?
Post by: Smguinnip on March 10, 2024, 08:02:20 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 10, 2024, 08:41:35 PM
Nice looking set up you got there… Are you going to mount that on the wall of your shop?
X2
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 10, 2024, 09:13:40 PM
I have zero wall space left in my little shop as it’s only 11x23 as it’s the third bay of the garage, so one wall is garage door and there are two service doors at opposite corners.
I’ll definitely have to find a spot somewhere though. It’s a pain to get it out and screw it to the table
Post by: 4 point on March 10, 2024, 09:25:44 PM
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Post by: Longcruise on March 11, 2024, 09:40:01 AM
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I’ll definitely have to find a spot somewhere though. It’s a pain to get it out and screw it to the table
I saw one here a while back that was strapped to a tree. I was inspired. :biglaugh:
Post by: Kirkll on March 11, 2024, 09:41:10 AM
Sorry. Meant to post this in ‘What did you do today’ thread.
I have zero wall space left in my little shop as it’s only 11x23 as it’s the third bay of the garage, so one wall is garage door and there are two service doors at opposite corners.
I’ll definitely have to find a spot somewhere though. It’s a pain to get it out and screw it to the table
Sounds like it’s time to move one of those vehicles outside and stake your claim on bay 2 of that garage and build a partition wall to hang that baby up on. Life is too short to have too little shop space… That was the first structure I built on our place back in 96’. 36x36’ pole barn with a loft….
Post by: Buemaker on March 11, 2024, 02:02:44 PM
Since my first did not work out I wanted to have something that works before posting.
The DR is a glass bow. Riser is Bocote with a Jatoba I beam and glass and Elm on back of riser. Limbs are two parallel Norwegian Elm lams, one .003 taper that goes into a .004 reverse taper last inches before nocks, one strip of Uniweft and Bjørn glassfiber. A thin wedge of Hard Maple is glued as an overlay on the belly to stiffen the last inches a bit more. Tips are Linen Micarta. Needs finish sanding and spraying.
NOW I must ask one thing, the weight is one pound above victim’s asked for upper draw weight. It is now bending as I want it to and I would rather not adjust it. Will this be allright?
The other bow is a 4 laminate shallow ELB with Buffalo horn tips, will be fitted with leather handle and strike plate and Fast Flight string. Weight is right. I am just showing that one also in case victim would rather have such a bow.
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 11, 2024, 03:44:52 PM
Kyle
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 11, 2024, 03:47:18 PM
Kyle
Post by: Buemaker on March 11, 2024, 04:00:14 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 11, 2024, 04:15:03 PM
I’ve never measured any tapers. I always just floor tillered each lam and rolled with it.
Post by: Kirkll on March 11, 2024, 08:16:16 PM
Post by: Kirkll on March 11, 2024, 08:34:38 PM
The finish material is the same auto clear coating i typically use on all my bows, but this one after laying down 3 coats, i polished it out, and gave it a hand rubbed satin finish. it came out feeling like silk in the hand.
Here a few more photos i took in different light conditions...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/f4BLMfcdUxvVszKJ8
I'm ready to ship this baby to its new owner....
Here is a link to the build album.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/65qB8TLhqTR4FJzB6
Post by: Noah70 on March 11, 2024, 09:14:52 PM
Wonderful work as always Kirk, even though I know It’s not mine. Love the leopard silk, what did that add to the stack? Presumably no strength advantage, strictly cosmetic? Opens up a whole world of limb colour’s and patterns though. :clapper: :clapper:
Post by: canopyboy on March 11, 2024, 09:35:08 PM
About a month ago you guys got me inspired to pick out some wood and get started. I got as far as prepping and starting the riser glue up. But I needed a new roll of sandpaper for the thickness sander and realized I didn't even have any decent bandsaw blades left. And then I was on work travel, smashed a finger between some cinder blocks, got my garage permit approved and started pulling out trees, and lost the batteries to my camera in my sock drawer.
But I'm still here, just got caught up on all y'all's progress (took a while.) I'll still get a bow out before the deadline. And if any of those questions were ever for me, I'm good with builder's choice on colors, my poundage is flexible, heck I can even shoot LH if push comes to shove and it means one of the bows this year!
Post by: Kirkll on March 11, 2024, 10:16:54 PM
" I smashed a finger between some cinder blocks, got my garage permit approved and started pulling out trees, and lost the batteries to my camera in my sock drawer."
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing::biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 11, 2024, 10:20:11 PM
Kirk, great looking bow, as expected. I really like your limb overlays, I may have to pirate those at some point, very classy.
That looks like it's gonna be sharp canopyboy.
Post by: Kirkll on March 11, 2024, 10:25:45 PM
Beautiful work Beu, I would not have any worries about any weight over. I like both, but always love glass the most :goldtooth:
Wonderful work as always Kirk, even though I know It’s not mine. Love the leopard silk, what did that add to the stack? Presumably no strength advantage, strictly cosmetic? Opens up a whole world of limb colour’s and patterns though. :clapper: :clapper:
Actually.... I got the idea for the silk under glass years ago from self boyers that used it for backing on their staves.... believe it or not... it does stiffen things up a bit...How much under .040 glass i couldn't tell you....this is only the second one i've done. probably adds about .005 in the stack, if that..
This bow only has .030 glass and ultra light cores. It should be on the top end of the performance scale for a light draw weight bow. But never tested it....But i planned it that way because it was built for a 24" -26" draw. I wanted to eliminate as much limb mass as possible to make a shooter out of it. Kirk
Post by: Kirkll on March 11, 2024, 10:33:05 PM
Beautiful work Bue. I'd be good outside of my weight range. A pound is nothing.
Kirk, great looking bow, as expected. I really like your limb overlays, I may have to pirate those at some point, very classy.
That looks like it's gonna be sharp canopyboy.
Hey Jon.... If you give these cycle shaped overlays a go, its easiest to pre shape them and put a nice bevel on them before you glue them on, and finish sand the edges. Also take great care to wipe off excess glue on the glass or its a bear to sand.....
Another thing is do not extend them past the riser too far, and feather them down really thin at the point or those tips will pop loose when the wedge flexes....Especially using G-10.
food for thought. Kirk
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on March 12, 2024, 09:12:18 AM
Post by: kennym on March 12, 2024, 04:03:00 PM
Will fix that and spray matte on her
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Post by: Buemaker on March 12, 2024, 04:25:58 PM
Post by: derekdiruz on March 12, 2024, 07:28:03 PM
Got the bow from Crooked Stic! For some reason, I had the odd gut feeling that his bow shipped to my P.O. Box, so I went and checked, and sure enough the long box was there!
Opened her up, and she is marked 41@31. Draws incredibly smooth, even better so since she’s light weight for what I’m used to (though this is what I wanted- as I like shooting bows that are lighter for me lol) tuned a 2016 perfectly for me. Very mild mannered bow, dead quiet. Fantastic work Stic!
Here’s some pics of her.
Meanwhile, tomorrow I finally will be gluing the limbs and riser for my victim. Both of which should be done next week if I’ve got the time to glue them tomorrow!!!
Post by: Mad Max on March 12, 2024, 08:19:03 PM
Great work stic :bigsmyl:
Post by: kennym on March 12, 2024, 08:34:35 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 12, 2024, 08:38:00 PM
Sorry Kenny :dunno:
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 12, 2024, 09:19:42 PM
Nicely done Stic. Looks like a super comfortable bow.
Kenny, hoping your trade bow is just gonna travel one state to the North. :goldtooth:
Post by: 4 point on March 12, 2024, 10:33:56 PM
Kenny that’s a really sharp bow!
Post by: 4 point on March 12, 2024, 10:48:48 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 13, 2024, 05:18:42 AM
Post by: kennym on March 13, 2024, 08:04:37 AM
My victim's bow will be going ... somewhere :biglaugh:
Gonna be a bit tho, went to help neighbor who got tornadoed last May move some dirt around new house. Couple hours, right? :laughing:
Moved dirt for 3 hours, then tractor quit, finally got mechanic there, and now a flat rear tire to go with the dead tractor.
So while I waited , I'll get shop work done ,right? About 10 minutes in, electric goes off. For 5 hours, all fixed now except flat tire on tractor. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Longcruise on March 13, 2024, 11:43:49 AM
Kindness goes a long way kenny :biglaugh:
Or, "no good deed goes unpunished". :biglaugh:
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Post by: BO-R on March 15, 2024, 05:36:57 PM
I got some roughing in on some limbs and riser that last couple nights.
Osage/Bocote combo....
Post by: derekdiruz on March 15, 2024, 06:19:03 PM
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Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 15, 2024, 09:32:31 PM
Kyle
Post by: Kirkll on March 15, 2024, 10:29:10 PM
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Kyle
Post by: John Scifres on March 16, 2024, 03:19:10 PM
Post by: canopyboy on March 17, 2024, 08:38:43 AM
Post by: kennym on March 17, 2024, 10:57:56 AM
I will shoot it a bit more and decide... :biglaugh:
I haven't put any string silencers on it but have some silicone jig skirting here so may just send enough for the owner to put on if he likes it . I don't have any fur so if he likes that, he won't have to take these off...
If I send it... :laughing:
Post by: kennym on March 17, 2024, 10:59:24 AM
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Post by: Noah70 on March 17, 2024, 09:45:54 PM
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If you need a hint, you are exactly 2890 km (quite a few Miles) away, +/- a few. Look forward to hearing from you !!
Regards
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 17, 2024, 10:12:27 PM
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Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 17, 2024, 11:51:10 PM
Do you realize how many guys just pulled up Google Maps in hopes they might be the one?
I mean, how many guys besides me? Hahahaha!
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 18, 2024, 09:13:26 AM
I didn’t get more than that done this weekend. Little man was getting fussy Saturday when I had time so I quite a little sooner than I wanted. Then spent Sunday bringing home a trailer load of staves from my parents barn loft down to the house. Much nicer having all the staves at home vs 1.5 hours away. I still have a bed load worth of hackberry staves to get but that’s an easy trip.
Kyle
Post by: Buemaker on March 18, 2024, 09:44:46 AM
Post by: canopyboy on March 18, 2024, 10:08:44 AM
I’m actually in BC at the moment. So not only is it a good thing to wait a few days to send it, but maybe I can just swing buy and save you selling off a family member…
Post by: Noah70 on March 18, 2024, 11:39:21 AM
Uli,
I’m actually in BC at the moment. So not only is it a good thing to wait a few days to send it, but maybe I can just swing buy and save you selling off a family member…
Thanks Dave, but you’d have to detour quite a bit to drop it off with the victim. But thanks, and you can swing by anyway if you’re travelling through.
Post by: Buemaker on March 18, 2024, 02:31:23 PM
Post by: derekdiruz on March 18, 2024, 03:10:00 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 18, 2024, 04:02:50 PM
Post by: kennym on March 18, 2024, 04:04:03 PM
Post by: derekdiruz on March 18, 2024, 05:11:41 PM
I Cnc the profile of the riser then add the shaping by hand. This allows me to alter grips if I so choose. Then the shelf is cut to exactly .007” past center.
I also use my Cnc to profile the limbs, cut the limb bolt alignment holes, and cut the limb butts. Makes for a quick process after glue up. It’s taken me a years worth of headaches to get here, but I pretty well have my process down.
Post by: Kirkll on March 18, 2024, 05:18:57 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 18, 2024, 05:20:43 PM
Post by: derekdiruz on March 18, 2024, 08:29:10 PM
Kirk, That's bacote between myrtle. The woods are a hair lighter in real life than the pic depicts. My shop lighting is bright white LEDs in a dark concrete building. So woods don't look NEAR like they do in daylight.
Post by: DVSHUNTER on March 18, 2024, 09:52:01 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 18, 2024, 09:54:24 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 18, 2024, 10:47:20 PM
Abby looking good :clapper:
x2 :goldtooth:
Post by: DVSHUNTER on March 18, 2024, 11:09:54 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 19, 2024, 04:10:29 AM
Post by: kennym on March 19, 2024, 08:44:45 AM
Post by: Kirkll on March 19, 2024, 08:59:00 AM
Post by: derekdiruz on March 19, 2024, 02:54:29 PM
Bacote and Myrtle riser with a black back glass overlay, curly maple back and black belly glass. 60” and 40 somethin (vague; so the victim isn’t identifying it lol)
Post by: Mad Max on March 19, 2024, 03:05:20 PM
Post by: kennym on March 19, 2024, 03:20:40 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 19, 2024, 04:10:45 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 20, 2024, 07:42:07 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 20, 2024, 07:57:02 AM
Post by: OldRawhide42 on March 20, 2024, 08:16:17 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 20, 2024, 08:23:29 AM
Post by: dbeaver on March 20, 2024, 09:08:12 AM
Post by: Buemaker on March 20, 2024, 09:10:31 AM
Post by: OldRawhide42 on March 20, 2024, 12:43:27 PM
Post by: Longcruise on March 20, 2024, 07:05:30 PM
This is still the test bow that I'm going through a number of design changes. Too many changes to accurately predict draw weight and the window is very narrow.
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 20, 2024, 07:12:05 PM
Just after clean up and shaping. It’s time to start making it bend. I started heading out the door yesterday evening to work on it and got a little sidetracked.
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 20, 2024, 07:18:43 PM
Kyle
Post by: Longcruise on March 20, 2024, 07:36:56 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 20, 2024, 07:38:55 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 20, 2024, 08:59:58 PM
Kyle
Post by: Noah70 on March 20, 2024, 11:08:18 PM
Beu - I’m surprised you use the spray 2 part coating for sealing, its soooo expensive. Unless you have something else to use up the balance of the can on. I have often used the clear epoxy for bar tops, etc., just mix up a few ounces and rub it on with a lint free cloth, then sand/steel wool, then repeat. Takes a couple days, but it only costs a few dollars.
Dear Victim - your bow shipped out on Monday, postage from Canada was much cheaper than expected, so family is happy. They promised 7 days, God willing and the creek don’t rise.
Post by: derekdiruz on March 21, 2024, 03:22:00 PM
Post by: kennym on March 21, 2024, 03:23:57 PM
Post by: BO-R on March 21, 2024, 04:18:11 PM
to the spray booth....
Post by: kennym on March 21, 2024, 04:41:11 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 21, 2024, 04:44:00 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 21, 2024, 08:15:59 PM
Post by: dbeaver on March 22, 2024, 08:50:45 AM
Happy with the overall result, after building a double set of strings over the weekend I'll be shipping out to my victim Monday. I could drive it there but that's not much of a clue because I'm known for pulling a 20 hour drive to save myself the hassle of an airport.
Post by: John Scifres on March 22, 2024, 09:46:09 AM
My bow is getting there. I desperately want to try a fiberglass takedown sleeve, so I am spending time on that. I don't want my victim's bow to be the first, so I am experimenting with other lesser-value pieces. Short story: I am getting there, but no pics for now.
I love the stuff you have been posting.
Post by: dbeaver on March 22, 2024, 10:40:58 AM
Taking a general poll. Beaver fur or raccoon fur silencers?
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Post by: kennym on March 22, 2024, 11:19:23 AM
I'm up for beaver... :goldtooth:
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 22, 2024, 11:25:11 AM
Post by: kennym on March 22, 2024, 11:59:20 AM
Post by: kennym on March 22, 2024, 01:04:12 PM
Poor victim... :laughing:
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 22, 2024, 02:10:21 PM
Hmm, I vote raccoon. I’ve done a few silencers with raccoon fur and it looks neat
All around awesome looking bows
Kyle
Post by: Kirkll on March 22, 2024, 02:32:05 PM
That looks like a good over seas carton there. i like to ship one piece bows with a wood crate going over seas. i sent a batch to China like that a few years ago....
Kirk
Post by: kennym on March 22, 2024, 03:21:02 PM
The carton will withstand the carriers I hope unless they see it as a challenge. :laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 22, 2024, 03:55:18 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 22, 2024, 05:05:09 PM
I'm making a shipping carton hoping not destructable by ship carriers...
I'm up for beaver... :goldtooth:
I see on FB
You are shipping bow making material (wood box) with the bow. :bigsmyl:
Post by: Longcruise on March 22, 2024, 06:01:30 PM
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You are shipping bow making material (wood box) with the bow.
Exactly what I thought. :biglaugh:
Beaver? Racoon? I vote possum!
Post by: kennym on March 22, 2024, 06:09:07 PM
QuoteYou are shipping bow making material (wood box) with the bow.
Exactly what I thought. :biglaugh:
Beaver? Racoon? I vote possum!
You will need to patch some screw holes... :laughing:
Post by: DVSHUNTER on March 22, 2024, 06:33:30 PM
I have got a pretty decent bend going on with this simple selfbow. I just need to slowly tiller the weight down to my victem dbeaver I would go with beaver. That's all I use anymore.
Post by: Smguinnip on March 23, 2024, 10:31:10 AM
Post by: Mad Max on March 23, 2024, 02:45:40 PM
Post by: kennym on March 23, 2024, 03:38:36 PM
Post by: jess stuart on March 23, 2024, 06:53:50 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on March 23, 2024, 07:34:42 PM
Post by: kennym on March 23, 2024, 07:37:00 PM
I’ll take both of em ! :goldtooth:
Post by: 4 point on March 23, 2024, 08:17:46 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 23, 2024, 08:22:14 PM
Post by: jess stuart on March 23, 2024, 08:23:23 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 23, 2024, 10:19:23 PM
Post by: dbeaver on March 24, 2024, 12:24:37 AM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 24, 2024, 01:03:55 AM
You are shipping bow making material (wood box) with the bow. :bigsmyl:
Some of kenny's "packing materials" are my favorite accent pieces :laughing:
Post by: Longcruise on March 24, 2024, 10:21:23 AM
You are shipping bow making material (wood box) with the bow. :bigsmyl:
Some of kenny's "packing materials" are my favorite accent pieces :laughing:
Yup. Someday I'm going to build one with packing strips under clear glass. 😀
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 24, 2024, 01:56:00 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 24, 2024, 02:42:34 PM
I decided to get another leather stamp set that’ll be awesome for a handle wrap. So I’m waiting to finish out the handle wrap on the wonky Osage bow until these are in.
Kyle
Post by: BO-R on March 24, 2024, 04:38:04 PM
I want to say thank for such a fine piece of work..also fits my hand nicely..
Will work for this turkey season...60"_42#@27".
Will get full draw photos later...
All the best in your endeavors Derek!
Vince..
Post by: Kirkll on March 24, 2024, 04:49:55 PM
Post by: derekdiruz on March 24, 2024, 05:04:11 PM
Post by: Buemaker on March 24, 2024, 05:53:24 PM
Post by: kennym on March 24, 2024, 05:54:29 PM
Post by: Noah70 on March 24, 2024, 08:23:36 PM
Post by: derekdiruz on March 24, 2024, 08:53:28 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on March 24, 2024, 11:59:30 PM
Post by: dbeaver on March 25, 2024, 05:07:53 AM
Got the packaging ready to go and after a couple photos, off to the victim
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 25, 2024, 08:39:58 AM
Kyle
Post by: Buemaker on March 26, 2024, 08:42:09 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 26, 2024, 09:43:57 AM
Post by: dbeaver on March 26, 2024, 09:50:47 AM
Raccoon fur 'carpet' rest
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Post by: derekdiruz on March 26, 2024, 09:54:24 AM
Post by: kennym on March 26, 2024, 09:55:26 AM
My victim should receive today but I’m a bit concerned that tracking is not showing movement… :scared:
Post by: Buemaker on March 26, 2024, 10:19:25 AM
Post by: 4 point on March 26, 2024, 11:09:56 AM
Post by: kennym on March 26, 2024, 12:37:53 PM
Its rain/snowing today so may not get to shoot it today unless in shop.
And some awesome extras with it.
Pix later, gotta get caught up on shop work!!
Post by: dbeaver on March 26, 2024, 12:47:33 PM
Post by: dbeaver on March 26, 2024, 01:29:05 PM
Post by: BO-R on March 26, 2024, 01:45:37 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on March 26, 2024, 07:53:15 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on March 26, 2024, 07:57:18 PM
Post by: Mad Max on March 26, 2024, 09:19:46 PM
Nice stick Dave
Post by: kennym on March 26, 2024, 09:20:11 PM
Noah ,you did an awesome job of building, packaging and the letter enclosed and bow spec sheet was over the top my friend!!
Not to mention the gift he sent for Renee !! Points taken!!
Thank you sir, And I'll get some pics tomorrow if it isn't drab and rainy like today. Gotta look in my sock drawer to see about the camera? Anybody remember that? :biglaugh:
Post by: DVSHUNTER on March 26, 2024, 10:04:59 PM
I am guilty of not posting as many pics of the bow I received. Kirk had so many that were better I didn't need to luckily. It seems so many times we are very pleased with what we have but have such a high expectation of skill from this group that it seems like pictures can't ever do the work justice. I know the bow I got from Kirk is being well used and is greatly appreciated. I would have been happy to get any bow so far, except for the one Kyle is making. Lol :biglaugh:
I'm making the new string for my victims bow tonight. I won't ship for awhile because with an all wood bow, I like to shoot them in and let them settle a bit. Even with all the excercise on the tillering tree, they can move.
Having said that, do you guys that haven't got their bow yet have a preference on string colors? I have almost everything and would like to male it custom.
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 26, 2024, 10:28:12 PM
Kyle
Post by: kennym on March 27, 2024, 08:39:05 AM
Here is a few from the arrival . Noah is a craftsman !!
Got a charcuterie board for my wife, she loves it!!
And some coasters from the sight window , how cool is that ?
Thank you Noah!!!
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Post by: kennym on March 27, 2024, 08:48:04 AM
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Post by: 4 point on March 27, 2024, 10:32:46 AM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on March 27, 2024, 02:41:32 PM
Post by: Noah70 on March 27, 2024, 04:31:24 PM
That board is the coolest charcuterie board I've seen so far in my life.
Thanks very much Dave !!
Post by: kennym on March 27, 2024, 07:41:32 PM
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Crappy pic taking weather , the bow shoots great, perfect weight . My nocks are too tight and so can’t tell much about tune but it shoots same place about every time . 500s with 200 up front seem weak with fletched shafts but it’s windy too . I’m gonna put some silencers on and bare shaft her .
The full draw profile looks great to me.
Thanks Noah!!
Post by: Noah70 on March 27, 2024, 08:34:52 PM
Regards,
Post by: Mad Max on March 27, 2024, 09:37:28 PM
The pic looks great Kenny! And the profile looks just fine! I was testing it with fletched 500’s with 150 up front (29” draw) and thought it was performing well. It was an honour building for you and I’m very glad you liked everything! If it ever kills something I’d love a picture.
Regards,
x2 :thumbsup:
Post by: Kirkll on March 28, 2024, 12:10:29 AM
Good looking full draw profile :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 28, 2024, 04:32:28 AM
Post by: BO-R on March 28, 2024, 09:11:25 AM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 28, 2024, 09:36:08 AM
Post by: Buemaker on March 28, 2024, 09:42:14 AM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on March 28, 2024, 12:11:18 PM
Kyle
Post by: Buemaker on March 28, 2024, 12:17:35 PM
Post by: Longcruise on March 28, 2024, 09:47:48 PM
Here’s my full draw pic !
Crappy pic taking weather , the bow shoots great, perfect weight . My nocks are too tight and so can’t tell much about tune but it shoots same place about every time . 500s with 200 up front seem weak with fletched shafts but it’s windy too . I’m gonna put some silencers on and bare shaft her .
The full draw profile looks great to me.
Thanks Noah!!
What! No flag? :biglaugh:
Looks great 👍.
Post by: Longcruise on March 28, 2024, 10:00:28 PM
Can't do much more till Monday.
Post by: kennym on March 29, 2024, 07:21:45 AM
Drives me nuts!!
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 29, 2024, 10:57:33 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 29, 2024, 12:47:18 PM
Post by: canopyboy on March 29, 2024, 04:07:48 PM
More to come...
Post by: canopyboy on March 29, 2024, 04:23:12 PM
Gotta look in my sock drawer to see about the camera? Anybody remember that? :biglaugh:
I think I already used that line this swap Kenny (Hova?) ... and turns out I need to use it again. More pics coming later.
Post by: kennym on March 29, 2024, 05:20:11 PM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 29, 2024, 09:42:16 PM
We already have 6/18 bows delivered to their new homes! I also show one more as shipped, or soon to be. All others are in some stage of being built, and no stragglers as of now. Great job everyone! Thank you for taking care of business.
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 29, 2024, 10:16:26 PM
Post by: kennym on March 29, 2024, 10:26:56 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on March 30, 2024, 01:45:28 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on March 30, 2024, 03:07:43 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on March 30, 2024, 04:51:09 PM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on March 30, 2024, 10:19:30 PM
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on March 31, 2024, 12:47:35 AM
Post by: BO-R on April 01, 2024, 10:22:39 AM
Post by: 4 point on April 01, 2024, 01:29:37 PM
I have my victims bow finished up. Just needs a rest and a string and I’ll get it shipped.
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Post by: Mad Max on April 01, 2024, 02:19:18 PM
What kind of truck is that bed connected to?
Post by: BO-R on April 01, 2024, 02:30:55 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on April 01, 2024, 02:41:01 PM
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Post by: 4 point on April 01, 2024, 02:50:37 PM
Max, it’s a 70 c/20 that my grandpa bought new. I kinda chopped it up and made it more my style to the dismay of my family. I started on it last spring thinking I’d have it done by this summer. I always think I have more free time than I do. Makes a good bench currency.
Post by: jess stuart on April 01, 2024, 05:02:44 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 01, 2024, 05:10:49 PM
Post by: jess stuart on April 01, 2024, 05:14:37 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 01, 2024, 05:31:10 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 01, 2024, 05:43:11 PM
Sorry for your loss Chris.
I have my victims bow finished up. Just needs a rest and a string and I’ll get it shipped.
:thumbsup: :bigsmyl:
Nice bows everyone :jumper:
Post by: kennym on April 01, 2024, 05:58:01 PM
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Post by: canopyboy on April 02, 2024, 03:58:59 PM
I am however remiss in posting up some pictures of the amazing bow I received from Kenny! Apparently someone had moved the camera from the sock drawer but I finally found it and got someone to take a full draw picture. I don't think the pictures fully capture the beauty of this thing. I don't think I've ever held a bow with this many glue joints before! :laughing: I really like the way the walnut/maple action wood creates the patterns up the side of the limb profile. But without further ado:
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Post by: jess stuart on April 02, 2024, 04:13:23 PM
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Post by: Smguinnip on April 02, 2024, 06:44:55 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 02, 2024, 06:49:36 PM
Post by: Smguinnip on April 02, 2024, 06:55:52 PM
Post by: kennym on April 02, 2024, 07:14:56 PM
I like the auto clear coat much better, dries quick on any wood I've sprayed it on ...
Like that back overlay!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: dbeaver on April 02, 2024, 07:20:33 PM
Post by: Smguinnip on April 02, 2024, 08:10:06 PM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on April 02, 2024, 08:23:52 PM
Right or wrong. I’ve been known to wipe down a Bocote riser with an acetone soaked paper towel right before finishing to wipe the surface oil off. You do have to be careful as it can discolor white accents and the like. Not sure if that would help with the slower drying finishes or not. I personally use conversion varnish that drys pretty fast.
Post by: kennym on April 02, 2024, 09:05:38 PM
What I use is from O'relillys , Duplicolor Perfect Match clear
Post by: Mad Max on April 02, 2024, 10:07:51 PM
I never seal bocote before spraying the clearcoat on it and it dries in 15 min or less, but I don't use VHT , altho somebody compared the two brands and said they were virtually alike. Don't remember who read up on it tho...
What I use is from O'relillys , Duplicolor Perfect Match clear
BenBow started a test with VHT Matte clear :thumbsup:
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 03, 2024, 05:58:47 AM
Post by: Buemaker on April 03, 2024, 07:35:29 AM
So many nice bows being made this year.
Post by: 4 point on April 04, 2024, 01:27:55 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 04, 2024, 01:56:57 PM
It was glass from Kenny :laughing:
Post by: Buemaker on April 04, 2024, 02:52:54 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 04, 2024, 04:30:28 PM
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Post by: John Scifres on April 04, 2024, 07:47:58 PM
I still have some shaping and one scary cut to make before the fiberglass work. I might get to that on Saturday but pondering some crappie fishing instead. Gonna be cold though. Decisions...decisions...
Credit to Big Jim for the jig design and techniques for doing from his video tutorial.
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 05, 2024, 08:37:19 AM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 05, 2024, 10:21:56 AM
Going to spend the day catching up and updating my tracking sheet. Will post a status update by tomorrow.
Post by: kennym on April 05, 2024, 05:51:42 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 05, 2024, 08:08:53 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 06, 2024, 08:32:25 PM
Kyle
Post by: Mad Max on April 06, 2024, 10:26:20 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 08, 2024, 12:27:50 PM
I got the overlays on and tips shaped out. I’ve been shooting it and trying to get the handshock settled down. It’s not horrible but more than I would like. I think it’s coming from both limbs having a swoop to the same side. So instead of the vibration cancelling theyre amplifying each other. The string lines up between nocks and handle but off toward the side of each limb. Theres not much set at around 3/4” and it’s pretty fast without hitting the bows full draw but it feels like the limb swoop is pulling the arrow into the handle. I’ve got some tweaking to do. I was hoping that lightening the tips by going ahead and shaping them would help, and it did, but not enough yet.
Kyle
Post by: Nicholi on April 08, 2024, 05:30:34 PM
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Post by: Crooked Stic on April 08, 2024, 07:20:56 PM
Post by: Smguinnip on April 09, 2024, 12:07:19 PM
UPS tracking shows another one has been delivered. Hope the victim is home.had to work late last night making sure that the eclipse traffic flowed smoothly, but found a pleasant surprise when i got home. assembled the limbs and strung it this morning before i left work just because i couldn't help myself. i will get some pictures when i get home today. it's a beauty and i cant wait to run some arrows through it. thanks for sending such a sweet bow Jess.
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 10, 2024, 04:06:03 PM
Kyle
Post by: Mad Max on April 10, 2024, 04:57:52 PM
I got the diamond leather stamps in yesterday, and played around with them. I think it’ll make a great texture for a handle wrap. There’s 3 sizes to play with so I may get creative.
Kyle
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I like it kyle :thumbsup:
How thick leather are you using and I guess your grip is smaller so it dosent get to big. :)
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on April 10, 2024, 05:15:15 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 10, 2024, 06:09:41 PM
Kyle
Post by: Mad Max on April 10, 2024, 07:02:16 PM
Post by: Kirkll on April 10, 2024, 11:07:14 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 11, 2024, 04:48:35 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 12, 2024, 07:58:56 AM
Kyle
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 12, 2024, 06:04:12 PM
Post by: John Scifres on April 13, 2024, 07:23:05 AM
Post by: Buemaker on April 13, 2024, 12:11:46 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 13, 2024, 12:51:16 PM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 13, 2024, 02:52:21 PM
Delivered: 9/18
In the mail: 2/18
Mostly finished: 3/18
In work: 4/18
Days until deadline: 48
All in all, looking good! A big thank you to everyone for powering through this swap. Please keep those tracking numbers coming to me as you ship, and don't forget the full draw pictures so I can close you out!
Post by: Kirkll on April 13, 2024, 08:10:07 PM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 13, 2024, 09:26:35 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 13, 2024, 11:34:34 PM
Kyle
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 14, 2024, 05:00:05 AM
Post by: kennym on April 14, 2024, 07:54:36 AM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on April 14, 2024, 04:47:58 PM
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Post by: Buemaker on April 14, 2024, 06:10:58 PM
Post by: Smguinnip on April 14, 2024, 07:32:01 PM
Grabbed some arrows that I had kicking around, probably not tuned to the bow but still shot some pretty good groups, can’t wait to see how it shoots when tuned. Thanks again for such a great bow Jess.
Post by: jess stuart on April 14, 2024, 07:44:41 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 14, 2024, 08:35:23 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 15, 2024, 06:35:00 PM
Post by: dbeaver on April 15, 2024, 06:42:42 PM
Post by: jess stuart on April 15, 2024, 06:51:35 PM
Post by: Longcruise on April 15, 2024, 07:01:27 PM
Post by: jess stuart on April 15, 2024, 08:41:54 PM
Didn't shoot it yet as the wind is gusting to about 50 mph. Thanks a million Travis it is wonderful
Post by: jess stuart on April 15, 2024, 08:53:55 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 15, 2024, 08:58:51 PM
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Post by: Noah70 on April 16, 2024, 12:35:15 AM
Ima waiting. :bigsmyl:
X 2 :thumbsup: I think we’re almost the last 2 left, gotta happen someday soon.So I took my trade bow out this last weekend to let someone with the proper draw shoot it. My 26 inch draw doesn't work. I saw something I want to fix and now I might be past the highest weight of my victim. I have another attempt ready to tiller, but it may take sone time. This is round two that I've missed weight on. I'm just checking in to let everyone know what's going on. What are your thoughts on two pounds ligher than requested? Asking for a friend. 😀
I’m fine with 2 extra pounds. I put on more than that over the winter myself, so we can work it off together.
Post by: Buemaker on April 16, 2024, 06:02:38 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 16, 2024, 11:34:26 AM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on April 16, 2024, 01:30:05 PM
I'd rather it be on the lower side than the higher side. Heavy bows are great to hunt with but the lighter bows are funner to shoot, IMO. God knows, I'm not on the getting stronger every day side of the life cycle. :biglaugh:
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 16, 2024, 08:00:22 PM
Post by: jess stuart on April 16, 2024, 08:14:32 PM
Post by: kennym on April 16, 2024, 08:22:51 PM
Congrats Jess!
Post by: 4 point on April 16, 2024, 08:35:40 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 16, 2024, 08:43:10 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 17, 2024, 06:05:40 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 17, 2024, 07:59:19 PM
Kyle.
Post by: Mad Max on April 17, 2024, 08:20:04 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 18, 2024, 09:51:44 AM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on April 18, 2024, 02:18:29 PM
Gonna open this baby up at lunch. Details to come!!!!!
Post by: Mad Max on April 18, 2024, 04:13:56 PM
Just pulled up to the house and saw a long box from Norway sitting on the front porch!
Gonna open this baby up at lunch. Details to come!!!!!
Stic is crying now :scared: and :banghead:
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 18, 2024, 07:26:28 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 18, 2024, 07:28:38 PM
Post by: kennym on April 18, 2024, 07:59:27 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 18, 2024, 08:01:23 PM
Post by: Bryan Adolphe on April 18, 2024, 09:48:21 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 19, 2024, 06:55:36 AM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on April 19, 2024, 07:36:27 AM
Smooth draw and shot a great 10yd group right out of the box with the arrows you sent.
The Norwegian Pine arrows and the Norwegian Runes you put on the limb translation to ‘Made to Jon’ put this over the top for me.
It’s truly an honor to have had you make this bow for me. Thank you.
Post by: Buemaker on April 19, 2024, 08:02:49 AM
All the best.
Oddbjørn.
Post by: Smguinnip on April 19, 2024, 09:54:33 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 19, 2024, 10:08:37 AM
Post by: Smguinnip on April 19, 2024, 10:20:59 AM
Post by: jess stuart on April 19, 2024, 11:30:47 AM
Post by: Buemaker on April 19, 2024, 12:08:36 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 19, 2024, 02:25:56 PM
Post by: 4 point on April 19, 2024, 03:50:55 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 19, 2024, 04:32:02 PM
Post by: Mad Max on April 19, 2024, 04:57:00 PM
The out door pictures really show your craftsmanship. :thumbsup:
Post by: Smguinnip on April 20, 2024, 05:47:05 PM
Maybe that white tube coming to Indiana :bigsmyl:Stic, my memory is so bad, I think we’re both gonna be surprised when we find out where it ends up :dunno:
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 22, 2024, 10:48:24 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 23, 2024, 08:41:38 AM
Kyle
Post by: Longcruise on April 23, 2024, 11:19:53 AM
I’m betting a 1” belt strip would work well if someone doesn’t want to buy a big piece of hide to cut a strip from. And may even get a couple handles from one $10 belt blank.
Kyle
Are you suggesting a wrap?
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 23, 2024, 11:26:33 AM
I’m betting a 1” belt strip would work well if someone doesn’t want to buy a big piece of hide to cut a strip from. And may even get a couple handles from one $10 belt blank.
Yup. For the type that Dave just shared. I’m betting a belt blank would be perfect. They’re pretty inexpensive and already cut to width.
Kyle
Are you suggesting a wrap?
Post by: Longcruise on April 23, 2024, 04:16:36 PM
I’m betting a 1” belt strip would work well if someone doesn’t want to buy a big piece of hide to cut a strip from. And may even get a couple handles from one $10 belt blank.
Yup. For the type that Dave just shared. I’m betting a belt blank would be perfect. They’re pretty inexpensive and already cut to width.
Kyle
Are you suggesting a wrap?
They are a bit thick but I guess it would depend on the size of the grip. I think it's a good idea but I would go with something about 2 oz.
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 23, 2024, 08:54:22 PM
Post by: Smguinnip on April 25, 2024, 08:23:43 AM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 25, 2024, 08:53:16 AM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 25, 2024, 02:49:54 PM
Kyle
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 25, 2024, 02:57:07 PM
Kyle
Post by: Buemaker on April 25, 2024, 04:16:43 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 25, 2024, 07:23:17 PM
Post by: kennym on April 25, 2024, 07:52:33 PM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 25, 2024, 08:40:21 PM
Bue:
12/18 delivered
6/18 in-work
Post by: EvilDogBeast on April 25, 2024, 08:41:46 PM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 25, 2024, 10:32:04 PM
I’ll try to get pictures tomorrow after work. I had about 30 min to play before heading to Judo tonight.
Now I’ve gotta get my contribution packaged up and shipped out. I just need to pick up a tube.
Kyle
Post by: Buemaker on April 26, 2024, 08:29:10 AM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on April 26, 2024, 09:33:31 AM
Post by: dbeaver on April 26, 2024, 09:34:28 AM
Post by: Smguinnip on April 26, 2024, 12:11:10 PM
Post by: Smguinnip on April 26, 2024, 12:21:10 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on April 26, 2024, 07:13:31 PM
:wavey:
Post by: DVSHUNTER on April 27, 2024, 06:14:21 AM
Post by: Kirkll on April 28, 2024, 03:22:38 PM
I'm in the same boat as Kyle. I'm ready to ship, just need to get a tube. Turkey season and starting a new job has me behind. It will ship out this coming week.
I'm not real fond of using PVC tubes myself. If you do, you should definitely tape some carboard corners on the tube so it cannot roll around. Those things rolling around on the conveyor belts at the distribution centers is where they are destroyed.
I prefer the triangle boxes USPS provides for free. I tape two of them together end to end and stiffen them up with some paneling or light weight wood. this one i'm shipping right now i used a couple pieces of old cedar lap siding i had to reinforce the cardboard. You could use these same triangle boxes over a tube if you are nervous about it.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7M9fUfgRw2rvzRZd8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/7M9fUfgRw2rvzRZd8
Post by: Longcruise on May 01, 2024, 12:59:47 PM
Post by: garyschuler on May 02, 2024, 09:20:50 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on May 02, 2024, 11:45:22 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 03, 2024, 07:09:47 AM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 03, 2024, 02:01:28 PM
As we are within the last 30 days, I will begin to reach out to those who are still working. Regular updates from those folks would be greatly appreciated. Let's finish out strong!
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 03, 2024, 02:07:03 PM
Post by: Nicholi on May 07, 2024, 09:56:21 AM
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Post by: Longcruise on May 07, 2024, 11:18:34 AM
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on May 07, 2024, 12:00:51 PM
Kyle
Post by: DVSHUNTER on May 07, 2024, 05:12:26 PM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 08, 2024, 12:30:11 AM
Post by: Nicholi on May 08, 2024, 07:37:05 AM
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Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on May 09, 2024, 05:21:08 PM
I went ahead and put on a mocking point before shipping since it’s a fun one to find being nowhere near square with the string.
Kyle
Post by: canopyboy on May 09, 2024, 05:53:07 PM
I’m bringing up the rear it looks like :banghead: but I am now glued up!
Nope, I have the rear covered! Sorry for a lack of progress and updates. For someone who used to have to harass the deadbeats it’s kind of embarrassing to now be one! :dunno:
It’s been an interesting couple of months. Unfortunately I have barely touched the bow. And the next two weeks will be about the same. But after that I can jump on it and get it done. I may edge into the grace period but I refuse to admit that I over committed myself and give up that bow from Kenny! Apologies to my patient victim in the meantime. Hope it ends up worth it to you in the end though.
Some beautiful bows being made out there.
-Dave
Post by: John Scifres on May 09, 2024, 09:39:02 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 10, 2024, 03:38:52 PM
Post by: dbeaver on May 10, 2024, 05:12:56 PM
Post by: Kirkll on May 10, 2024, 08:06:39 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 10, 2024, 08:13:41 PM
This is wet out to whisker the grain. Still more to do.
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Post by: Kirkll on May 10, 2024, 09:56:40 PM
If ya dont want to put leather grip on... leave in naked.... Naked is good.. :biglaugh:
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 10, 2024, 09:57:18 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 10, 2024, 10:12:51 PM
Are you going to leave the shelf flat like that? or put a bit of radius on it?
If ya dont want to put leather grip on... leave in naked.... Naked is good.. :biglaugh:
:biglaugh: :biglaugh:
Not really flat although it's close. I go with having the highest point on the shelf directly above the deepest point in the grip. So, with this style the highest point is above the rear most point of the riser. Same with the radius although this one's shallow point is a bit in front but I'll compensate it with the strike plate.
Post by: Noah70 on May 11, 2024, 11:37:11 AM
Post by: Kirkll on May 11, 2024, 04:10:40 PM
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Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on May 11, 2024, 04:53:53 PM
Kyle
Post by: Kirkll on May 11, 2024, 09:46:50 PM
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Here are more photos....
https://photos.app.goo.gl/6KaCRRKeAiYNJxGV7
I'm at a total loss for words regarding this bow Kyle. The brace height is only 5" with the string you sent, and it cannot be shot without an arm guard. After 3 arrows , and 3 welts on my arm, i had to give it up... I don't think shortening the string to get a higher brace would be a good idea either given the shape of the limbs...
Not being a self bowyer myself, i just don't understand how a stave with a propeller twist like this can even be tillered, and i've never seen a single tip notch on the side of a limb tip before....
You guys that do this all the time are amazing... I don't think i could pull this one off myself.
BTW..... Very cool leather tooling on the grip.... Kirk
Post by: Buemaker on May 12, 2024, 05:42:15 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 12, 2024, 08:22:59 PM
Leave it naked, don’t hide that nice wood with a piece of leather.
Got it, that's what I'm going to do. :thumbsup:
Post by: Kirkll on May 12, 2024, 08:52:50 PM
Post by: garyschuler on May 12, 2024, 11:07:55 PM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 12, 2024, 11:28:07 PM
Post by: Kirkll on May 12, 2024, 11:56:02 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 13, 2024, 08:17:11 PM
Shaping the tips today and one layer popped of. :tongue:
Did the same as usual using the usual technique and SG. Can't take a chance on this so I knocked them off. Replace tomorrow with EA40.
Post by: Longcruise on May 16, 2024, 02:08:37 PM
Kinda quiet in here.
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 18, 2024, 07:51:23 PM
Post by: DVSHUNTER on May 19, 2024, 06:51:20 PM
Post by: John Scifres on May 19, 2024, 09:45:44 PM
Post by: Nicholi on May 20, 2024, 10:54:40 AM
Who would have guess progress is harder with a 1 year old than a newborn!
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 20, 2024, 11:01:19 AM
Post by: Longcruise on May 21, 2024, 05:48:07 PM
Post by: Longcruise on May 23, 2024, 03:42:38 PM
66" NTN, 13.5" green Myrtle riser from Gary Schuler, olive green back, caramel belly, bamboo cores and wedges, micarta tip overlays.
Should ship this afternoon or tomorrow morning.
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 23, 2024, 04:25:14 PM
Post by: garyschuler on May 23, 2024, 10:15:04 PM
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 24, 2024, 07:16:55 AM
Post by: canopyboy on May 24, 2024, 07:54:53 AM
Last night I started laying out the materials for spliced limb veneers. I have some zebra wood and bocote I think are going to look nice together. Again, thanks in advance to my victim for your patience. Hopefully it’s worth the wait although there is no way I’ll top many of the bows this year that went out.
Post by: Longcruise on May 24, 2024, 01:58:40 PM
Ok folks, things are looking up. Working from now backwards: My neighbor will likely come out of the icu tomorrow; my old man’s annual visit from OR came and went with only 8 stitches at the ER; the site for the new garage has been cleared and ready for foundation work to start 6/1; my daughter’s graduation in WY went well; neighbors I’ve been feuding with just moved out; work has died down a bit; and the biggest thing is that we survived a rough tax season (wife is cpa with her own practice.)
Last night I started laying out the materials for spliced limb veneers. I have some zebra wood and bocote I think are going to look nice together. Again, thanks in advance to my victim for your patience. Hopefully it’s worth the wait although there is no way I’ll top many of the bows this year that went out.
Wow! I was thinking I had a rough month. Glad you got through it all. The materials look like a good combo. It'll be worth waiting for.
My swap bow is on it's way to . . . . . . .
Post by: EvilDogBeast on May 24, 2024, 02:14:14 PM
Post by: canopyboy on May 24, 2024, 09:59:00 PM
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Roughed out the limb veneers. Riser block at the top. Should have them glued up tomorrow and veneers cut and ground on Sunday. Thanks for bearing with me.
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 25, 2024, 06:29:25 AM
Post by: canopyboy on May 25, 2024, 09:33:11 AM
My best bows are generally a Hill style and a version of Kenny’s FHLB I’ve tweaked just a touch. Given how late I am, I don’t want to mess with anything else right now. My original plan was the FHLB, but I’m at the point where the materials will work for either. If you have a preference for a hill style post it up otherwise I may flip a coin or stick with the Kenny M FHLB based bow.
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 25, 2024, 01:20:58 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on May 28, 2024, 04:03:58 PM
Thanks Roy…
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :biglaugh: :biglaugh: :laughing: :laughing: :campfire:
David, they look awesome...
Post by: kennym on May 28, 2024, 04:38:53 PM
Who are you and what have you done with Roy??? :laughing:
Post by: canopyboy on May 28, 2024, 05:39:17 PM
Post by: canopyboy on May 28, 2024, 10:49:29 PM
Turns out my form sustained damage in storage and so I needed to build a new (and improved) one. So that’s all done and everything was dry fit and clamped. Seemed safer to wait until tomorrow for the main event. No pictures since at this point it might give away what kind of bow I’m building. At least until my recipient is the last one and there is no surprise left…
Post by: Roy from Pa on May 29, 2024, 07:41:56 AM
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Seemed safer to wait until tomorrow for the main event.
Oh Ya:)
Alcohol has messed up more than one bow build:)
Just sayen ya know?
Post by: Crooked Stic on May 29, 2024, 10:38:53 AM
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The also good news is my victim's bow is a nice shooter and is holding form. The bad news is that I am leaving town for a couple weeks for a visit to my kids in the Pacific NW and a flyfishing backpack trip. A few false starts and mistakes along the way are going to force me to take advantage of the grace period. I will finish her up and ship when I return. It won't take long but longer than I have right now. I appreciate the patience of the group and my victim. Here she is at full draw. I put 20 arrows through her and think I like it. Forgive the crappy photos. The skeeters were eating me alive.
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Post by: Longcruise on May 30, 2024, 10:48:58 PM
Post by: canopyboy on June 03, 2024, 12:47:24 PM
-Dave
Post by: Buemaker on June 03, 2024, 02:25:15 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 03, 2024, 07:21:55 PM
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Post by: Noah70 on June 04, 2024, 12:16:29 PM
Post by: canopyboy on June 04, 2024, 12:17:36 PM
I’m 3U. Hoping this bow is like a fine whiskey - the longer it takes the better it shoots?
Absolutely!!!
Post by: KellyG on June 06, 2024, 01:46:01 PM
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Post by: kennym on June 07, 2024, 07:31:29 AM
Good to see ya bud!
Post by: canopyboy on June 07, 2024, 08:18:58 AM
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I did a little finish sanding myself. Headed out of town Thursday for Compton and then to help my middle daughter move to a new apartment. I was hoping to ship before then but I doubt I’ll make that happen. I’d send pics but I feel like that will ruin the surprise at this point since I asked too many questions. Likely ship at the end of next week.
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Post by: kennym on June 22, 2024, 01:15:57 PM
You youngins won't get that... :laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on June 22, 2024, 01:27:53 PM
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 22, 2024, 10:04:26 PM
For our last two, the deadline looms...
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 23, 2024, 02:54:51 PM
Either way, I have some phone calls to make today. I'll keep you all posted.
Post by: canopyboy on June 23, 2024, 06:19:03 PM
-Dave
Post by: canopyboy on June 23, 2024, 06:48:10 PM
:clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
Post by: EvilDogBeast on June 24, 2024, 12:49:51 AM
Spoke to Nick, he is shipping as well. We will be closed out once these arrive.
Post by: Buemaker on June 24, 2024, 04:59:37 PM
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Post by: Roy from Pa on June 25, 2024, 09:54:01 AM
Post by: Nicholi on June 25, 2024, 01:30:04 PM
Like he said, I have shipped. Thanks for your patience everyone!
Post by: canopyboy on June 25, 2024, 10:14:29 PM
Sealer coats tomorrow.
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Post by: Buemaker on July 02, 2024, 03:11:30 AM
Post by: canopyboy on July 02, 2024, 10:46:05 AM
My victim's bow was dropped off this morning. It's in the shipper's hands now. This swap should be wrapped up soon now...
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 02, 2024, 12:10:30 PM
:bigsmyl::
Post by: canopyboy on July 02, 2024, 02:02:18 PM
Post by: kennym on July 02, 2024, 03:00:28 PM
Me I think :dunno so you sould send the tracking #
:bigsmyl::
1,2 skip a few 99,100 :laughing:
Post by: KellyG on July 02, 2024, 05:47:17 PM
EvilDogBeast: Wow, only one year has run past. You are doing something right.
I don't know that when I ran it, I did not have to have a backup bowyer make a bow. It is also a credit to the folks who hang out :clapper:here.
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 02, 2024, 08:32:46 PM
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Post by: Crooked Stic on July 05, 2024, 06:54:15 AM
Today
Post by: canopyboy on July 05, 2024, 07:47:44 AM
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
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Post by: Roy from Pa on July 05, 2024, 09:46:35 AM
Well, there goes that surprise!
:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:
LOL
Post by: canopyboy on July 05, 2024, 02:22:37 PM
Looks like she's still in one piece.
Kinda warm out for a snowman... :dunno: :laughing:
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 05, 2024, 04:16:21 PM
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Post by: canopyboy on July 06, 2024, 06:44:17 AM
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on July 06, 2024, 03:45:21 PM
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Post by: Noah70 on July 12, 2024, 11:14:05 AM
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Post by: Nicholi on July 12, 2024, 04:49:38 PM
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on July 16, 2024, 10:54:45 PM
Post by: kennym on July 17, 2024, 07:52:34 AM
Also good luck with the fishin! :thumbsup:
Post by: Nicholi on July 22, 2024, 10:45:15 PM
Just to make sure my victim is taken care of as quickly as I can and making sure there are no issues, I have ordered a pre glued up bow. I will then finish it and make sure it will be what he deserves.
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Post by: kennym on July 23, 2024, 07:43:37 AM
Post by: Jon Lipovac on July 23, 2024, 08:01:10 AM
Its possible that too much epoxy came out of the joint if too much pressure was applied. From what I understand about epoxy, the strength of an epoxy joint is the epoxy itself. If there is too little left in between the parts, it can be a weak joint.
Post by: Noah70 on July 23, 2024, 12:09:56 PM
I’d gladly wait for the next bow, no time rush, and no need to take on extra costs beyond reason. Nicks efforts are much appreciated.
Post by: Nicholi on July 23, 2024, 12:48:13 PM
Post by: kennym on July 23, 2024, 01:12:47 PM
But it's working and I'm not changing anything. I wonder if you had a tight spot there fitting to form? Thinkin out loud...
Post by: Nicholi on July 23, 2024, 01:19:08 PM
I was planning on redoing my form so it seems like I got my sign…
Post by: EvilDogBeast on July 23, 2024, 02:20:13 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 23, 2024, 04:25:50 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on July 26, 2024, 02:18:50 PM
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Post by: kennym on July 26, 2024, 04:45:21 PM
Yep if that is spectraply you got to be generous with the glue. I have used 70 psi. From day one. 20 years building bows only 4 failures I know of that got out the door. I have done some dumb things and had failures that never got out the door tho
I always use too much glue, you can't put it in there later... :biglaugh:
Post by: Nicholi on August 14, 2024, 10:08:41 PM
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Post by: Nicholi on September 16, 2024, 06:47:32 PM
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Post by: Noah70 on October 10, 2024, 08:28:19 PM
Post by: Nicholi on October 10, 2024, 09:06:41 PM
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Post by: EvilDogBeast on October 18, 2024, 08:29:15 PM
Post by: Noah70 on October 19, 2024, 12:09:40 PM
Post by: Noah70 on October 23, 2024, 08:47:41 PM
Got back to it this afternoon, to put a rug rest on it and sling a few arrows through it and get a feel for its potential. It’s a 64” longbow, shallow deflex/reflex, very clean, simple and smooth lines. The included B50 string had it braced at 8 3/8”, so I picked through my string drawer and found a slightly longer Dyneema 14 strand that brought it down to 7 1/2” brace. My scale put it at 49.5# at 28”, so its just at the top of my comfort range at 29” draw. The draw is smooth and fairly even, as I would expect with this length. There is a small amount of hand shock on release, but nothing uncomfortable. After I tried a variety of shafts, the ones that matched it the best were some heavier carbons that weighed in at 540 grains. It’s not a speed demon, but quite respectable nonetheless. I’m looking forward to fine tuning it a little, it will make a nice addition to the growing collection.
Many thanks to Nick for your perseverance and dedication. Much appreciated!
The attractive and able-bodied assistant/photographer was away with the grandson, so the full draw shot had to happen within the 10 seconds available on the IPhone .
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Post by: Nicholi on October 24, 2024, 12:47:52 AM
Post by: EvilDogBeast on October 27, 2024, 10:33:29 PM
And with that, we are officially wrapping the 2024 Bow Swap! Thank you to everyone who participated. You all put in an amazing effort and hung in there while we got everyone taken care of. It is because of you that we can keep this going every year.
Please let me know if you have any feedback (positive or negative). You can leave it here or PM me if you like. Once again, thank you all!