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Title: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on February 27, 2024, 03:40:27 PM

Just doubled....

PDK,....  and now me.... gotta love this deal!!!!!

If anyone else wants in, Patrick and I are charging a small initiation fee.  :biglaugh:

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang*
Post by: Terry Green on February 27, 2024, 04:05:17 PM

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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang*
Post by: pdk25 on February 27, 2024, 10:52:18 PM

Can't believe you dropped that wad of cash on a fiberglass bow, lol.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang*
Post by: Terry Green on February 28, 2024, 10:18:16 AM

Its ok Patrick, she's on payments  :bigsmyl:

Hold on to the one I shot at LTR.  I will kill something with it next year.  Its a barn burner with serious accuracy.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang*
Post by: mnbwhtr on February 28, 2024, 11:43:21 AM

50# Custom Recurve, a 45# same model was my first bow.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang*
Post by: Terry Green on February 28, 2024, 01:57:32 PM

Ok Randy, you're in. We will send you an invoice.  :saywhat:

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang*
Post by: pdk25 on February 28, 2024, 03:06:08 PM

Quote from: mnbwhtr on February 28, 2024, 11:43:21 AM

50# Custom Recurve, a 45# same model was my first bow.

And rocking the brush buttons too.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang*
Post by: Charlie Lamb on February 29, 2024, 09:43:21 PM

When I was a boy one of those bows really put the hook in me.  :archer2:

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang*
Post by: Terry Green on March 01, 2024, 10:24:30 AM

I can see why Charlie.... great bow with lots of nostalgia!!!

I was blown away by the 55#er Patrick let me shoot in TX.  Accurate and still very good speed.  Next year he's bringing it back.... so I'll have to shoot something with it!

Great to see you posting Charlie.... do you have any books left?

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang*
Post by: Terry Green on March 01, 2024, 02:49:22 PM

It's here... the $25 Gem...

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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: pdk25 on March 01, 2024, 05:49:03 PM

Nice.  Just in time for turkey and hogs.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on March 11, 2024, 12:21:14 PM

I might have a pic of another one soon.  This one was even cheaper than the last one.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on March 13, 2024, 01:35:40 PM

Hope to be able to apply for membership by this weekend.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Charlie Lamb on March 14, 2024, 10:34:48 PM

 no books left buddy. Intermittment use of the  internet so not getting on line consistently.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on March 15, 2024, 06:47:44 AM

So you sold out and that is a great thing. Sad you to those  are going to miss out on your many adventures.

I miss Charlie.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on March 15, 2024, 10:12:56 PM

Got a box today.  Box looks pretty good until you pick it up.  The box was cut in half on three of four sides, the bow was all that held it together.  Looks like it was stomped on.  Pulled the bow out and it looks OK.  I'll have to see about getting a string made for this, to you specs Pat.  Really small bottom loop.  Perhaps I can get a club membership.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on March 15, 2024, 10:17:40 PM

Charlie;
I would like to hear some tales of your experiences with a Fiberglas bow.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: pdk25 on March 17, 2024, 05:55:18 PM

Wudstix, I actually just took a small round file and made the grooves just a touch deeper on the tips of my lightest one.  I think it will hold up, and make stringing the bow a little easier.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on March 17, 2024, 09:28:23 PM

I thought the same time for the bottom end.  Also, got a recommendation for 3 Rivers with a adjustable loop D97 string.  They are only in one inch increments.  Sent ten rings an e-mail, as well.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: DV of WI on March 19, 2024, 04:26:40 PM

I thought I had one hanging in the rafters pulled it down [ You are not allowed to view attachments ] . I might have to try to kill something with it. [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: DV of WI on March 19, 2024, 04:28:26 PM

Hope this works for upload of pic.

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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: pdk25 on March 19, 2024, 07:12:20 PM

Quote from: DV of WI on March 19, 2024, 04:28:26 PM

Hope this works for upload of pic.

Put that thing to work!

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on March 26, 2024, 12:48:22 PM

I just got this 900 as a gift from Troy Burns. I suppose its going to look more like a longbow when strung.  She needs to go to Patrick's beauty shop. Not sure of the reason but this one is heavier in the hand than the other one I have. 

Many thanks Troy!!!   Pics added here in a second....

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on March 26, 2024, 12:54:31 PM

Nice!!!  I got the recurve 100 model @50# for the cost of postage.  Frantically, awaiting the D97 string for it.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on April 19, 2024, 11:20:07 PM

The 10 rings D-97 arrived, 58 1'4", so I twisted it up and have the brace height at @6 1/4".  The string is laying on the limb curves about right.  I'll shoot it in the morning and see what it looks like.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: pdk25 on April 20, 2024, 11:49:18 PM

I hope that it works out well for you  I am shooting mine just a smidge over 7.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on April 21, 2024, 09:42:57 PM

I'll fiddle with it and see.  Then maybe put para cord sheath silencers on if needed.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on April 22, 2024, 12:36:31 AM

Pat;
The bottom string groove looks off kilter, one side looks higher than the other.  When i draw the bow the string doesn't return to the limb string groove.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on April 22, 2024, 07:27:56 PM

Filed the groove a bit, no time to shoot this evening, but will in the morning.  Bow draws well and feels very good in hand.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on April 23, 2024, 07:19:55 PM

Yummy, once I found some arrows spined light enough to not shoot sideways the bow settled down.  The bow was very quiet with the woodies, but arrows were all over the place.  Initially, I found a 2117 with aluminum broadhead adapter and 190 grain point that shoot OK at 10 yards.  Noticed the string was returning to the groove.  Then I dug up several 2020 with the same front end set-up and they were burying to the fletch in the block target.  I'll adjust nock point and that will get better.  Speed seemed good, perhaps a little better than the Big River 62" 54# mild D/R longbow with heavy woodies.  These arrows were very stiff for the Paul Bunyan.  The RJ tab worked OK.  The Big Jim might have to have a smidgeon trimmed off.  Happy with performance of this bow.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: SpeRo on April 24, 2024, 03:47:18 AM

I don't know about the Paul Bunyan bows, but in the aspect of the advertisements; the packaging and the brand sticker look a bit like the Daisy Red Ryder of bows.

I'm having trouble finding articles about the brand. Was it a mass market bow maker, the kind you could find in supermarkets or was it a "real" bowier? The appearance and design make me think of the first solution but maybe I'm wrong... :campfire:

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on April 24, 2024, 01:20:54 PM

Just weighed the 2020's and averaged 635 grains at 29 1/2" with 160 grain tip.  Spine in low 70#'s probably on upper end of range.  190 grain tip may loosen them up a tad, but they shoot good now.  This bow feels as fast as my heavier recurve.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on April 24, 2024, 05:08:33 PM

Put a couple pieces of thicker para cord style rope sheath on at @18% of string length and it made the bow whisper quiet.  You just hear a slight swish from the feathers on release.  2020's 29 1/2" are stiff, but if I cant the bow and flex my knees, they fly real close to where I'm looking.  CE Heritage 250's 29 1/4" arrow fly very good, also with @290 grains up front.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on April 25, 2024, 10:37:28 PM

Ran into a couple 2115 shafts and one arrow, in my arrow graveyard.  This should fly.  I'll keep digging for 2018.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Burnsie on May 07, 2024, 12:53:25 PM

I think there were at least a couple Paul Bunyan bows in this pile at the Tennessee Classic during the trading blanket.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on May 07, 2024, 07:36:00 PM

Installed the EFA Cherokee 3 arrow on the PB 100 and it looks good.  Feels about as tight as I can get it.  I'll shoot it tomorrow morning early in the cool(er).
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on May 17, 2024, 11:29:53 PM

After I installed the para cord silencers the string slipped out of the bottom knot and slid up the limb.  The silencers took all the noise out of the bow.  I twisted it all back up and twisted the loop as small as I could and still get it over the nock end.  Brace is right at 7" to pivot point.  I'll try it again tomorrow morning and report back.  Might have to put a tip protector on it to hold the D97 string.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on May 18, 2024, 11:57:32 AM

Was ruminating and thought that a bit higher brace would put the string at slightly steeper angle off bow tip.  This may make it less likely to slip down the limb.  Loop is twisted as tight as allowable.  Brace is set at just proud of 7 1/2", so we'll see.  Left it strung and having it settle in now.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: John Krause on May 20, 2024, 06:48:38 PM

I’m a member. It’s was my Dad’s. I’m 68 and used to shoot it some 30-35 years ago. Not in bad shape actually.

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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on May 20, 2024, 07:05:23 PM

Welcome.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on June 20, 2024, 05:42:59 PM

It appears that there is a small twist in my PB lower limb, as I look at the belly the string wants to track right and not return to the groove.  Is there anything that can be done.  I have brace just proud of 7 1/2".
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on June 20, 2024, 07:47:59 PM

Brace at 7 3/4" and first shot the loops popped off and slid down the limbs.  On a positive note the arrow hit dead center.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Tim Reese on June 24, 2024, 08:14:46 PM

These are fun bows for sure. I keep mine set up for bow fishing. Bounces off rocks and boats and water like a champ

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on June 29, 2024, 10:42:36 PM

Put a limb protector on the bow and might add some additional wrap to hold the string.  We'll see how that works on Monday, when I'm not working.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Onski316 on July 01, 2024, 12:31:33 AM

I'll add my 3 PB bows. Left to right, a 50# 100, a 45# 300 and a 50# 600.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on July 01, 2024, 11:37:14 AM

Jason;
Nice stable.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: D Durham on July 01, 2024, 11:46:55 AM

Really cool thread guys!  :archer:

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on July 01, 2024, 01:18:02 PM

10346 Views for an old fiberglass bow thread.... very cool!

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: pdk25 on July 01, 2024, 08:31:19 PM

Pretty soon, I will have a real treat to share on this thread.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on July 02, 2024, 08:44:11 AM

Looking forward to it Patrick.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Onski316 on July 02, 2024, 10:02:03 AM

I posted on a few other pages but thought I'd add to this one for anyone's future reference.
I did some chrono testing with my 3 PB's using the same arrow, a 478g Outlaw. I realize the one is a 45# and the other 2 are 50# but it is what it is. If I get a chance, I'll try and go back and redo the 45# to equal the gpp of the others.

The PB 100 50# shot 173.4fps @ 31.92fpe at 9.56gpp and 64% efficiency.
The PB 300 45# shot 165.4fps @ 28.94fpe at 10.62gpp and 64% efficiency.
The PB 600 50# shot 170.6fps @ 30.90fpe at 9.56gpp and 62% efficiency.

Efficiency is FPE / draw weight. I'll try and get a 9.5gpp arrow with the 45# so they're more indicative of each other.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on July 04, 2024, 11:20:29 AM

 Onski316, FPE is an acronym I must have missed.  What does that stand for?

I know that the one I shot of Patrick's that was 55#s with a 535 grain arrow was no dog!

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Onski316 on July 04, 2024, 01:52:20 PM

Terry, foot-pounds of energy. The figure that takes into account the weight of the arrow and it's speed generated by the bow.

And I'm needing to clarify my figures some. My 50# PB 100 came in at 57.8# at my 29.5" draw. The 45# 300 came in at 49.2# and the 50# 600 came in at 52.2#. So the 600 was about right on. The 300 is more like at 47# and the 100 is more like 55#.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on July 04, 2024, 01:54:36 PM

Ah, gotcha. I use the momentum formula as the test.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: SpeRo on July 05, 2024, 03:30:41 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjqbXcbR6dI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjqbXcbR6dI)

I think some of you will be interested in this video! Thanks to Shane for these regular videos and for his work.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: pdk25 on July 05, 2024, 04:12:29 PM

C'mon man.  That is one of my bows that he is doing.  I was saving that as a surprise.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on July 05, 2024, 05:00:40 PM

Patrick, I was sure that was your bow after the sneak peek you gave me.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: SpeRo on July 06, 2024, 04:10:33 AM

Quote from: pdk25 on July 05, 2024, 04:12:29 PM

C'mon man.  That is one of my bows that he is doing.  I was saving that as a surprise.

Seriously?? Sorry to have spoiled the surprise, it's quite a coincidence anyway, the world is small... In any case he made your bow a unique piece, good job :thumbsup:

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: pdk25 on July 07, 2024, 01:48:57 AM

No, not seriously, lol. You stole my thunder a little bit, but how were you to know?  It isn’t any big deal.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Wudstix on July 07, 2024, 11:43:29 PM

Pat;
Great concept.
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Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Longtoke on July 08, 2024, 02:44:17 AM

I also saw the video and figured it was one of you guys on here.  The world is small and the trad world is even smaller :shaka:

Never shot one of these, but was amazed how much a modern no stretch string woke my old fiberglass bow up.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: pdk25 on August 01, 2024, 07:06:32 PM

So Shane is finishing my second bow now. He has made it into a takedown and stained it. This one is a little heavier, probably around 55 at my draw. I plan on taking this with me to Alaska as a back up for moose.


https://www.facebook.com/share/v/wYV8xitS3wUzxBqD/?mibextid=WC7FNe


If you click on this link, it will take you to a small video clip of what the bow looks like now put together, but His page also shows his progress throughout the steps.

Title: Re: *The Paul Bunyan Gang* - Pics
Post by: Terry Green on August 02, 2024, 07:23:34 AM

Cool! and BEST of luck on that Moose.  :jumper: :jumper: :jumper: