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Title: You can't get more traditional than this
Post by: Pine on April 10, 2024, 12:08:07 AM

Multifloral rose arrow shafts
https://youtu.be/khzQl3hP-Fg?si=h-YLLXw1Cf3_9eJ0

Title: Re: You can't get more traditional than this
Post by: Wudstix on April 10, 2024, 12:49:32 AM

Wonder what spine they turned out?
 :campfire: :coffee: :archer2: :campfire:

Title: Re: You can't get more traditional than this
Post by: McDave on April 10, 2024, 01:30:59 AM

Interesting that he is able to get good arrow flight with no points on the arrows.  I guess that is the opposite of EFOC.  NFOC?

Title: Re: You can't get more traditional than this
Post by: SpeRo on April 10, 2024, 04:00:38 AM

The absence of calculation seems to succeed to some daring people.  :archer2:

Great video!

Title: Re: You can't get more traditional than this
Post by: Pine on April 10, 2024, 10:00:11 AM

I'm thinking they might act like bamboo arrows and be more forgiving.
I'm going to try to make some arrows and see what happens. Besides we have a bunch of those roses on our property.

Title: Re: You can't get more traditional than this
Post by: Pat B on April 10, 2024, 11:34:19 AM

Rose canes make excellent arrows. I've made a few but mostly use native cane or hardwood shoot shafts like red osier, viburnum and sourwood. All of these have a natural taper with weight forward properties and more adaptable to different bow weights. If you cut the canes long you can pick the section that best suits the spine you need once they dry. In many cases they are more durable than doweled shafting because the growth rings go around the shoot unlike doweled shafting which basically violates the growth ring the way they are made.
 If you are going to collect natural shafting be sure you cut only 2nd year or older shoots. When a shoot grows it gets to it's ultimate length the first growing season and will have only leaves(or leaf scars this time of year) along its length. The second growing season the shoots will have small branches growing from the leaf scars from last year.
 In the video the guy used string to bind his shoots in bundles to keep them basically straight while drying. More straightening is needed later. I like to use rubber bands to bind the bundles. As the shoots dry they shrink and the string will loosen. Rubber bands keep the bundles tight as the shoots shrink.
 Some folks like to unbundle and hand straighten the shoots every week or so so when the shoots are dried it only takes a little hand straightening to get a shootable shaft.

Title: Re: You can't get more traditional than this
Post by: Captain*Kirk on April 10, 2024, 09:39:51 PM

Great video! Seems like an awful lot of work to make just one arrow, but I prune our roses several times during the year and could be saving up canes instead of throwing them out. Just sayin'. :thumbsup: