Post by: Even on July 09, 2024, 08:16:31 PM
If you could only have ONE bow, of all your bows... which one would it be, and WHY?
I don't have an agenda here, other than to learn about some nice bows, and why they are special to you. It could be any reason, from the sentimental, to the practical.
Personally, its now my 62#, 66" Sentman longbow. A few months ago, I'd have said my Zebra Grevy, but the Sentman is just so... natural. It just silently goes where I look. LOVE that.
Post by: Terry Green on July 10, 2024, 07:38:29 AM
Post by: Jim Wright on July 10, 2024, 11:04:44 AM
Post by: Wudstix on July 10, 2024, 11:20:35 AM
It used to be my 60" MOAB 64#, but now is my 66" Moosejaw Razorback 60#, for many of the reasons you listed. Especially, your last sentence.
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Post by: rastaman on July 10, 2024, 11:46:19 AM
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Post by: Terry Green on July 10, 2024, 12:32:44 PM
I have a 50# that I haven't killed anything with yet as it's only been hunting once.
I've killed more with the 70#er than the 64#er, but the 60#er has killed a slew of critters. So, the 60# would be the one bow choice.
Post by: kopfjaeger on July 10, 2024, 12:36:15 PM
I like the way it feels and the way it shoots. I also like the easy no tools takedown system.
Post by: Roy from Pa on July 10, 2024, 01:41:01 PM
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Post by: Even on July 10, 2024, 04:00:12 PM
Thanks for moving this thread, Rob.
Post by: Terry Green on July 10, 2024, 04:16:56 PM
70# MOAB
Post by: Even on July 10, 2024, 05:19:33 PM
Post by: Terry Green on July 10, 2024, 05:32:07 PM
I've killed more with the 70#er than the 64#er, but the 60#er has killed a slew of critters. So, the 60# would be the one bow choice.
Post by: Even on July 10, 2024, 05:38:22 PM
Post by: Terry Green on July 10, 2024, 06:13:40 PM
Post by: Wudstix on July 10, 2024, 06:32:19 PM
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Post by: Rob DiStefano on July 10, 2024, 08:26:26 PM
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Post by: artifaker1 on July 12, 2024, 10:30:25 AM
To hunt big game it would prolly be my 61lb at 27inch 62 inch long pronghorn. it is a three piece takedown and has the bob limbs .... bamboo backed with osage on the belly, very hard shooting bow for sure and takes down to three pieces. no carbon but all laminations are working laminations so to speak. performance with heavy arrows is very similar to my mid nineties SA limbs, both checked on a chrono, sorry but it is good to know sometimes ....
Post by: Terry Green on July 12, 2024, 10:51:04 AM
It always goes with me when I fly as again, it is a TD. :thumbsup:
Post by: Terry Green on July 12, 2024, 11:22:53 AM
Post by: Even on July 12, 2024, 08:55:47 PM
I really like the leftover riser wood knife handle idea... a matched set.
Guys, don't let the "There can be only one!" idea in the first post stop you. If you have a bow that is very special to you, and you feel like sharing why, by all means do!
Bows are special for a lot of reasons, and friendship or companionship are the best of reasons.
Post by: Wudstix on July 13, 2024, 12:30:10 AM
In that case there are my Big River bows. They are special to me, as John has passed on. I have both a Radical D/R and mild D/R longbow, plus a Kodiak clone recurve. The curve was my first custom bow in 1996. The mild D/R longbow 54# has not been shot allot, due to recent acquisition, but it shows promise with heavy arrows in excess of 700 grains.
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Post by: Even on July 13, 2024, 04:22:13 AM
Post by: Terry Green on July 13, 2024, 10:22:43 AM
Thats awesome, Terry, thanks for the pics!
I really like the leftover riser wood knife handle idea... a matched set.
You bet, here's another Rob DiStefano Sparrow Hawk pic. I'm still about a buck 85. HUGE sow.
Post by: Tim Reese on July 13, 2024, 11:29:34 AM
Post by: Even on July 13, 2024, 09:17:15 PM
Those Cheetahs are gorgeous, Tim. They make my HH Big five look drab.
Post by: charles m on July 15, 2024, 11:13:08 AM
What about that pic of that big hog you killed where you were standing by it hanging in the dark. You still got that pic and was it killed with a Sparrow Hawk also?
Post by: dnovo on July 15, 2024, 04:56:29 PM
Post by: Even on July 15, 2024, 06:07:20 PM
Then you have a new bow, and you spend time learning it, and tuning arrows, and your prior favourite sits on the rack. But then, months, weeks, or days later, after time has passed, you pull out that older bow you love, and compare!
Then, sometimes (as in my case!) that new bow grabs you and won't let go, and the prior favourite goes back on the rack. OR, you shoot your old favourite, and the magic hits again, and you can't put it down. Its still the ONE.
But then you think about PURPOSE, and that short bow you like for deep cover, or a tree stand. But that long, string-follow ASL of yours is SO smooth, and fun to rove with, or that light-ish recurve you love for 3D courses...
Its never easy picking just one, that for sure.
I wonder if bows are like women? Some guys have a high-school sweetheart they never stray from, forsaking all others, where as other people play the field, and weigh... options. Be interesting research ;)
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Post by: Even on July 17, 2024, 01:28:42 AM
I've looked at several Jerry Hill bows, but never pulled the trigger. I've been so tempted, but they seem polarizing, more than most bows. Some guys seem to love them, and some hate them.
What was it about yours that made it your go-to bow?
Post by: Gordon Jabben on July 17, 2024, 01:45:00 PM
Post by: Even on July 17, 2024, 02:03:40 PM
That deer was in beautiful condition. Thanks for the picture!
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Post by: woodchucker on July 28, 2024, 01:02:57 PM
I've wanted one since I was a kid. 1984, when I got discharged from the Marines, I was going to buy one. I didn't
In 2015, we settled our Union contract, and I got a big retroactive pay check. I called Big Jim, and ordered one.
There's just something about getting something you've wanted, for 40 years.... :archer:
Post by: Kirkll on July 29, 2024, 11:33:09 AM
Here is my hunting bow.
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And here are some other hybrid bows I’ve built including aftermarket Bear limbs.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/u2xWDjA2qPDZ48WaA
Post by: Terry Green on July 29, 2024, 12:07:59 PM
Three questions. ....
How is that extra arrow holder attached on the hood of the quiver, and how is it attached at the bottom(pic please)?
And, how old is the fletch cover and where did you get it?
Thanks.
Post by: Kirkll on July 29, 2024, 12:41:04 PM
Nice again Kirk!
Three questions. ....
How is that extra arrow holder attached on the hood of the quiver, and how is it attached at the bottom(pic please)?
And, how old is the fletch cover and where did you get it?
Thanks.
The quiver is an older Selway strap on model that i modified myself for quick access to a small game arrow. Its gotta be 15 years old. I use a standard field tip with a grass hopper for squirrels, grouse, and other running rodents in that outside mount... They fly better than other blunts and small game tips i've used. They will tear up a turkey pretty good too. I dont shoot stumps any more... Well not intentionally. :biglaugh:
I don't have a photo of the bottom side, but there is one arrow holder on the end of the rubber. (See attached link below) What i did was attached a single rubber arrow holder to the hood using a small screw from the back side and liquid rubber. I've hunted this bow a lot, and it's taken a beating over the years, and that added arrow holder has held up well.
I just bought one of these and cut the end off to mount on my hood.
https://www.3riversarchery.com/replacement-arrow-gripper-for-selway-bow-quivers.html
Kirk
Post by: BowDiddle on July 29, 2024, 12:46:16 PM
I forget what the model is called.
Post by: Terry Green on July 29, 2024, 12:49:37 PM
And, how old is the fletch cover and where did you get it?
Post by: Kirkll on July 29, 2024, 08:23:58 PM
Thanks Kirk, you missed one though :bigsmyl:
And, how old is the fletch cover and where did you get it?
The fletching cover is only about 10 years old, and I believe I either got it at 3rivers, or Lancaster . That is a nice cover made from saddle cloth that I believe has the option of being open on the bottom, or closed. For many years I used fletching covers my wife made from camo handkerchiefs and had elastic at the top and completely enclosed on the bottom. The problem with those were when it got serious raining, the cover got wet and didn’t protect the fletching well because of 5ge thin material. I much prefer the heavier saddle cloth , and have two full suits of the predator camo made from that material in the jungle green pattern.
Here are a couple elk hunting photos with an 800 pound cow elk I was cutting up to pack out of the mountains.
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Post by: Kirkll on July 29, 2024, 08:29:48 PM
If I weren't completely eaten up with the ILF craze I would be shooing a Bigfoot super static takedown recurve.
I forget what the model is called.
No worries there mate… I build some very nice SS ILF limbs, and risers too.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PFxjZgjsKdrJsoZM9
https://goo.gl/photos/mFRUxAaBhJ1mPNYi9
https://goo.gl/photos/kwioyLB1KvLhhrgh9
Post by: Terry Green on July 30, 2024, 07:58:47 AM
You are making some really fine looking bow Kirk! :clapper:
Post by: BowDiddle on July 30, 2024, 10:37:56 AM
If I weren't completely eaten up with the ILF craze I would be shooing a Bigfoot super static takedown recurve.
I forget what the model is called.
No worries there mate… I build some very nice SS ILF limbs, and risers too.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PFxjZgjsKdrJsoZM9
https://goo.gl/photos/mFRUxAaBhJ1mPNYi9
https://goo.gl/photos/kwioyLB1KvLhhrgh9
I shot with a guy at a shoot in Odessa who was shooting one of your ILF SS recurves.
He was kind enough to let me shot it. Very nice shooting bow.
He also took it down, and allowed me to put the limbs on my riser. My riser is a Titan, and the limbs wouldn't fit.
If I can afford it someday, I will just go with your SS in a direct bolt down.
Looking at your website is see you have them with hidden bolts. Yeah Baby !
Post by: Kirkll on July 30, 2024, 11:24:09 AM
If I weren't completely eaten up with the ILF craze I would be shooing a Bigfoot super static takedown recurve.
I forget what the model is called.
No worries there mate… I build some very nice SS ILF limbs, and risers too.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/PFxjZgjsKdrJsoZM9
https://goo.gl/photos/mFRUxAaBhJ1mPNYi9
https://goo.gl/photos/kwioyLB1KvLhhrgh9
I shot with a guy at a shoot in Odessa who was shooting one of your ILF SS recurves.
He was kind enough to let me shot it. Very nice shooting bow.
He also took it down, and allowed me to put the limbs on my riser. My riser is a Titan, and the limbs wouldn't fit.
If I can afford it someday, I will just go with your SS in a direct bolt down.
Looking at your website is see you have them with hidden bolts. Yeah Baby !
The limbs I build for my own ILF risers do not fit into a std ILF pocket. They are full width. But I still build limbs only that are interchangeable on other risers. Most ILF risers have lateral limb adjustment screws, and it’s critical that the limb alignment is perfect on my SS RC limbs. The limbs on my bolt down versions are not interchangeable with other risers for that very reason.
It’s also the reason I need my customers riser in hand when building aftermarket Bear limbs. Those TD Bear risers are all over the place, and differ one riser to the next. And…. They have no lateral limb adjustment. The only way I can insure good fit and alignment is by building the limbs to fit that particular riser.
Kirk
Post by: artifaker1 on July 30, 2024, 02:08:40 PM
I was just going to ask that, as this was also what was told to me by other bowyers earlier on .... Have you made any static recurve limbs for the bear system? ..... Always interested in bear limbs made by others ... checking my wallet ..... lol
Post by: Kirkll on July 30, 2024, 03:03:05 PM
............ It’s also the reason I need my customers riser in hand when building aftermarket Bear limbs. Those TD Bear risers are all over the place, and differ one riser to the next. And…. They have no lateral limb adjustment. The only way I can insure good fit and alignment is by building the limbs to fit that particular riser .........
I was just going to ask that, as this was also what was told to me by other bowyers earlier on .... Have you made any static recurve limbs for the bear system? ..... Always interested in bear limbs made by others ... checking my wallet ..... lol
Absolutely i build the "Bare SS RC" limbs that are static tip in #2  lengths, and i build a "Big Foot Bare" riser too in 4 different lengths. Here is a picture of one i built both Hybrid long bow & the Bare SS RC limbs for you can look at at full draw on the tiller tree.... Kirk
https://photos.app.goo.gl/NgSTVmAicvbdRrag6
Post by: Terry Green on July 30, 2024, 05:27:00 PM
Post by: artifaker1 on July 31, 2024, 09:28:48 AM
You can't see them their hidden .... lol
But seriously on his web site at the very bottom of the bows page he shows that stuff.
Post by: Mike Bolin on July 31, 2024, 02:36:45 PM
Post by: Even on July 31, 2024, 03:36:04 PM
Centaur bows seem to be great!
Post by: Wudstix on July 31, 2024, 04:26:07 PM
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Post by: Even on July 31, 2024, 05:33:37 PM
How are you finding the extra length of the Moosejaw, Wud? Shaping up for your fall hunts?
The more I shoot my Sentman, the more I appreciate it. I've been alternating between that, and my 70# HH Big Five this summer, but If I had to keep just one, the Sentman would stay. Love that bow.
Post by: Wudstix on July 31, 2024, 05:47:12 PM
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Post by: Maclean on August 01, 2024, 11:16:21 PM
Post by: Terry Green on August 02, 2024, 10:13:40 AM
I even have a 2nd favorite, the 70# MOAB hands down. However, it would not be my 2nd choice for survival. That would be the 50# MOAB that has killed nothing. I trust the 60 and 70 so much, that I would give that trust to the 50#er without a 2nd thought.
Morrison Cougar(Interceptor) and Cheyenne(Zip Code), and Centaur are great friends of mine also, but not my faves of all times.
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Post by: MnFn on August 16, 2024, 12:07:18 AM
But I picked up this one used and quickly found it was the best shooter of the bunch for me.
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Post by: Even on August 28, 2024, 12:27:09 AM
Wow! It's been a long time since I've warmed my feet by the campfire. I have had several health issues that made it very inconvenient to pull the bow. I did not hunt for the past three deer seasons. But this year I'm getting back in the game. Still my favorite bow is my NM Shelton at 53#. It is 68 " long and is constructed of yew. It is very beautiful and smooth on the draw. I can think of no characteristics that I would change. The only other bow that is equal to this one is my other Shelton. It has exactly the same specs as the yew bow except that it is green and constructed of bamboo. They handle pretty much the same, and the only significant difference I can tell is that the yew bow draws more smoothly, while the bamboo bow seems to be "snappier". Both are great bows.
Welcome back!
A Northern Mist Shelton around 70 lbs is my next wishlist target... eventually. I've heard nothing but good, regarding them. Glad to hear you are a fan :)
Post by: Even on August 28, 2024, 12:30:28 AM
My favorite bow is a 64" 1pc Asbell Bighorn recurve that is 50# at 27" and I pull it to 30". Too dang bad I can't pull that weight anymore, I guess it's time to sell it.
I wonder if someone talented could reduce the draw weight for you, a bit? Not sure what that entails, but it would be nice to be able to hold onto your favorite.
Might change the character, though :/
Post by: Archie on August 28, 2024, 02:44:05 AM
A year ago I found myself quite fortunate in acquiring a 56" Cascade recurve made for me by Steve Gorr in 2023, and then a 52" Cascade magnum (also recently made by Steve). Something about both of those bows gives me a similar shooting experience to my PMA (grip, draw, hold), except in a considerably shorter package. I've ended up with 3 sets of limbs for each of the Cascades (light, medium, heavy), and something really agrees me about the way they load up during the draw process. I've been drawn much more to the 52" magnum, which is shocking since I draw a tad over 30". I wouldn't bother sharing this, except that these shorter bows have given me some unexpected benefits. 1, my string is not catching on my clothes like it used to. I've always had trouble with that, and that's tricky for me in Alaska. 2, the "finger pinch" from the string angle of the short bow has forced me to deal with a ring finger problem that I ignored previously, and my release has improved as a result. 3, the magnum feels like I hit a wall right at the point of full draw, so it's easier to stop there, not overdraw, and hold. 4, the obvious benefits of a more compact bow in the woods. And 5, contrary to even my own logic, I seem to be more consistent and accurate with the 52" magnum than I've been with any other bow previously. This has been an unexpectedly enjoyable and unique experience.
So I guess the 52" Cascade Golden Hawk Magnum is the favorite now.
Post by: kopfjaeger on September 02, 2024, 04:11:17 PM
Post by: Jegs.mich on September 02, 2024, 08:00:36 PM
Favorite longbow is my JT Zeus
Post by: Even on September 04, 2024, 03:41:39 AM
LOL, I was paying too much attention to the bow in Kopfjaeger's post, and failed to note the tiger stripes underneath. Love that pattern... its the best on North Coast BC, bar none.
Post by: kopfjaeger on September 05, 2024, 10:56:26 AM
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I like my tiger stripe camo BDUs for bowhunting. I bought some Fred Bear camo BDUs for bowhunting this year, it's another pattern I like. I have a wide assortment of camo patterns in bowhunting clothes.
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Post by: Even on September 05, 2024, 06:40:55 PM
I hadn't looked through Fox's site before today... thank you for that. Nice to know they shoot, too.
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