Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 14, 2024, 06:35:11 PM
Would be helpful to know the bow & arrow setup as well.
Lastly-what method do you use to sharpen? I’ve tried Terry’s method, just haven’t gotten em as sharp as I’d like (user error for sure)
Post by: kopfjaeger on August 14, 2024, 06:55:16 PM
Post by: Terry Green on August 14, 2024, 07:21:25 PM
https://www.tradgang.com/tg/
Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 14, 2024, 07:50:14 PM
Here is one of the black bears I killed with a Zwickey Delta 4 blade in New Brunswick Canada. I was bowhunting with a Dick Robertson Montana Falcon Takedown recurve (65#@28"). Arrow was a tapered maple arrow that I made. The arrow was fletched with three 5 1/2" banana fletching with a helical left-hand twist and weighted 650 grains. And the broadhead was sharpened with a file. The arrow hit the bear right behind the left shoulder and was a complete pass through and was sticking in the ground. The bear only went approx 50 yards. I killed some other game animals with them, but I can't remember which ones because I've used a variety of different broadheads in 55 years.
Nice bear!
Post by: Bowguy67 on August 15, 2024, 09:26:25 AM
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Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 16, 2024, 08:18:14 AM
I’m asking the question to the OP.
I brought VPA 1 1/4 3 blades on my bear hunt. Unfortunately still trying for my 1st trad animal.
If I could figure out how to sharpen the Zwickey’s I’d definitely use them, just love how they look as a traditional broadhead.
Plus just finished Monty Brownings new moose hunting book (FANTASTIC btw) and that helped make up my mind.
Nothing wrong with the VPA’s by any means & I can get them stupid sharp with my diamond stones. Just want to figure out the Delta’s is all
Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 16, 2024, 08:19:10 AM
The Alaskan Yukon moose in my avatar was taken with a Zwickey 4-blade delta on a 725 grain birch arrow out of a 66# Robertson longbow. On new heads, I start with a file to even out the triple thickness tip with the rest of the blade. Then I go to Tru-angle hones of coarse and fine grit to sharpen the main blades. I use a 6-inch file to sharpen the bleeders, and then drag them backward on the hones. Everything ends up very sharp.
Where do you find those Tru Angle hones?
Post by: Rob Emerson on August 16, 2024, 09:13:00 AM
I’m asking the question to the OP.
I brought VPA 1 1/4 3 blades on my bear hunt. Unfortunately still trying for my 1st trad animal.
If I could figure out how to sharpen the Zwickey’s I’d definitely use them, just love how they look as a traditional broadhead.
Plus just finished Monty Brownings new moose hunting book (FANTASTIC btw) and that helped make up my mind.
Nothing wrong with the VPA’s by any means & I can get them stupid sharp with my diamond stones. Just want to figure out the Delta’s is all
Well, if you’re after big blood trails the 3 blades like the VPA and snuffer are where it’s at. The snuffer is all I’ve ever really shot. I thought you might be after some bigger game where you didn’t feel comfortable with a 3 blade. Good luck with the Delta’s. I know RMSG makes a jig for 2 blades that’s pretty slick. I would imagine it would work on those Zwickey heads.
Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 16, 2024, 10:04:15 AM
I’m asking the question to the OP.
I brought VPA 1 1/4 3 blades on my bear hunt. Unfortunately still trying for my 1st trad animal.
If I could figure out how to sharpen the Zwickey’s I’d definitely use them, just love how they look as a traditional broadhead.
Plus just finished Monty Brownings new moose hunting book (FANTASTIC btw) and that helped make up my mind.
Nothing wrong with the VPA’s by any means & I can get them stupid sharp with my diamond stones. Just want to figure out the Delta’s is all
Well, if you’re after big blood trails the 3 blades like the VPA and snuffer are where it’s at. The snuffer is all I’ve ever really shot. I thought you might be after some bigger game where you didn’t feel comfortable with a 3 blade. Good luck with the Delta’s. I know RMSG makes a jig for 2 blades that’s pretty slick. I would imagine it would work on those Zwickey heads.
Our whitetail are pretty sturdy here in Iowa haha! I am hopefully that I will move back to Montana eventually, and am going to be taking some serious Western/Alaska hunts eventually
Post by: Orion on August 16, 2024, 12:43:19 PM
If you can't find the hones, you can get Zwickeys just about as sharp with a file and ceramic stick. Folks have been doing that for more than 50 years.
Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 16, 2024, 12:55:48 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think tru-angle hones are made anymore, but you can still find them on the big auction site occasionally. I forgot one step in my process. After beveling the tip to match the rest of the blade, I true up the main blade bevel with a tru-angle file block before going to the hones. The file block treatment would probably be sharp enough, but the hones polish the blade. I've also seen a leather tru-angle strop to give the blade the final touch, but I don't own one of those.
If you can't find the hones, you can get Zwickeys just about as sharp with a file and ceramic stick. Folks have been doing that for more than 50 years.
I’m terrible with a file lol, need more practice & instruction I suppose
Post by: trad_bowhunter1965 on August 16, 2024, 03:56:37 PM
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=121911.0
Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 16, 2024, 04:10:19 PM
I watched Mr Terry Green sharpen a 4 blade Zwickey last year
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=121911.0
Can’t seem to get the hang of it. I’d seen those in the past. Course won’t work on my phone haha.
Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 16, 2024, 04:58:37 PM
I see Ozcut makes an angle sharpener, I think this would work?
Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 10:59:14 AM
:biglaugh:
Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 12:10:18 PM
I watched Mr Terry Green sharpen a 4 blade Zwickey last year
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=121911.0
Can’t seem to get the hang of it. I’d seen those in the past. Course won’t work on my phone haha.
There are a TON of videos on here that need to be converted as the old format is not working any longer. Some of the videos on here are 20 years old.
Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 01:26:31 PM
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The continuous 'Running Angora' trail.....
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Pausing before taking a left turn, for only 6 yards......
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Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 17, 2024, 02:05:27 PM
I've had many short lived 'Paddle Trails', here's a couple....
Man I’m so excited to join you guys for LTR ‘25!!!
Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 02:13:21 PM
I took these the next day as my night pics were not blood friendly.
Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 02:42:20 PM
Just a hop, skip and a leap 14 feet into the bush.....
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Post by: smokin joe on August 17, 2024, 04:43:24 PM
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Post by: Iowabowhunter on August 17, 2024, 06:50:19 PM
Iowa. Difficult to say if the ozcut sharpener is the same. The angle looks steeper to me. Regardless, they seem to be offering only one block of a single grit. You would still need to work down the tip with a file before going to the block, and depending on the coarseness of the grit, it could take quite a while to true the entire bevel. Looks like it's made more for touching up heads.
Yeah that’s what I was thinkin. I’m in on a bid on the auction site for a Tru Angle. If that falls thru I’ll see if I can make it myself
Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 07:20:53 PM
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Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 07:49:08 PM
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Post by: Russell Southerland on August 19, 2024, 09:24:48 AM
Double X marks the spot. I bet that one went down in sight. :biglaugh:
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Post by: Terry Green on August 21, 2024, 03:44:31 PM
Package should arrive Friday. :campfire:
Post by: Terry Green on August 22, 2024, 09:35:46 AM
Terry Green swears by them. I may have seen one of those bloodtrails.
You've seen two of them. :thumbsup:
Post by: cacciatore on August 22, 2024, 09:51:41 AM
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Post by: smokin joe on August 22, 2024, 10:41:20 AM
:pray:
Post by: cacciatore on August 22, 2024, 10:52:31 AM
I just got off the phone with Cacciatore from Italy. Great conversation but we had to cut it short. So, I wasn't able to get his recipe for Veal Francese, my favorite Italian dish. Maybe we can share a camp sometime and he can share then. :campfire:Nice to talk with your, Terry, you are more than welcome to come over and hunt wild boars with me. Maybe something better too.