Post by: Even on August 17, 2024, 02:22:56 AM
This got me thinking about Quiver arrangements, and packs in general, and then it occurred to me that I have the best resource available to ask some questions: you guys!
In any of the bow hunting I've done, I've always been reasonably minimalist. The longest was four days, and I humped my Gregory Forester pack in, with my bow in hand, and quiver lashed to it. Most of the journey was by boat.
Once we set up camp, next to a little lake, everything after that was day hunts out of there, with back quiver on, and a large-ish fanny pack. Liquids, Jerky, a second folding knife, fire making tools, and a flyweight small tarp, bug dope... bout it. Coastal deer are usually small, and we were too rain coast for Moose, and not quite high enough for Goats.
I knew I could get back to camp with anything I took, game-wise, nor was I particularly intent on killing anything anyway, unless it was near-perfect. I was just happy to be out there.
Any actual hunting I did, was with Hill back quiver and fanny pack. Currently, where I am now, it remains the same: day hunts, and only small game, so the same type gear. I only still-hunt, or stalk. Lay in wait on the odd game trail, too.
In some other threads here (the Bison Gear thread, for one), I've seen some neat rigs. It got me thinking about hunting style, versus gear.
My questions are these:
What KIND of hunting do you do?
What setup do you use for quiver and pack? Do you change it up depending on how you are hunting?
WHY do you use what you use, regarding quiver and pack?
Post by: MnFn on August 17, 2024, 07:33:36 AM
Also, the Safari Tuff is lighter than my leather back quiver. Plus the SF Tuff has a very usable pouch sewn into it. Big enough for binoculars, face camo, compass, file.
Mostly I am just walking in to a stand for afternoon/evening hunts, with the occasional all day sits.
Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 10:43:37 AM
Post by: Even on August 17, 2024, 04:31:33 PM
Would definitely solve the pack issue, though.
Post by: dnovo on August 17, 2024, 05:48:41 PM
Post by: MnFn on August 17, 2024, 06:19:11 PM
In any case, shoot with quiver on and get used to it. You can’t deny it is a popular option, as there a lot of them out there.
Sure, it may take awhile but it can be done. Nothing ventured nothing gained.
It took me awhile too. And if you don’t like it, don’t use it.
Post by: Walt Francis on August 17, 2024, 07:13:47 PM
Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 07:27:31 PM
You guys don't find a bow quiver makes your bow feel weird? I tried that once, but I hate any sort of vibration, on my bow, so it came right back off :/
Would definitely solve the pack issue, though.
Even, no, I've never had vibration from a bow quiver ever since I've been bowhunting. Great Northern strap on, Selway strap on and slide on, Eagles Flight strap on, and Marksman strap on. Not sure if it was your type of quiver, or if the quiver was exacerbating the bow design vibration.
Post by: Even on August 17, 2024, 07:55:07 PM
Its funny too, hand shock from a shot doesn't bother me much, if it occurs, but getting any higher frequency vibration afterwards makes me mental. I've never warmed to three piece bows, or a lot of recurves with flat-ish limbs for that reason. That buzz just after the shot makes me grit my teeth.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess :) Thats why its interesting to see what others do, or don't.
Post by: Terry Green on August 17, 2024, 08:32:24 PM
Post by: Even on August 17, 2024, 11:43:23 PM
That would take me away from the light in the hand, quiet, smooth ASLs I enjoy so much, though :/
Post by: Terry Green on August 18, 2024, 09:27:14 AM
I will be using this on some occasions, the new 3 Rivers quiver, and it will not interfere with my fanny pack at all.
Post by: mgf on August 18, 2024, 10:09:51 AM
Post by: dnovo on August 18, 2024, 10:53:24 AM
Post by: Terry Green on August 18, 2024, 10:57:52 AM
So much unnecessary movement and noise for me not to use a bow quiver on just about every hunting scenario. Just one item in front of me to slip through the brush, no need for me to double the trouble. No way would I be as efficient hunting the way I do with two items to maneuver. Twice the movement and twice the chance of more noise, most of which would largely be from the 2nd item.
Just my experience Mike. :thumbsup: :campfire:
Check this brush, the 1st clip was when I got within 10 yards, the 2nd was at 4.
Sorry for the delay, let em load.....
https://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/20230203_175329.mp4
https://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/20230203_175429.mp4
Post by: Pompano Joe on August 18, 2024, 03:20:06 PM
Post by: Pompano Joe on August 18, 2024, 03:23:58 PM
Mr MGH, what would be the issue of laying down a bow with a bow quiver? Thanks in advance.
BTW, I also followed that new tube quiver thread. Looks like great addition to arrow carrying options.
Post by: Russell Southerland on August 19, 2024, 09:26:06 AM
Post by: Wudstix on August 19, 2024, 10:24:24 AM
:campfire: :coffee: :archer2: :campfire:
Post by: mgf on August 20, 2024, 12:54:18 AM
Mr MGH, what would be the issue of laying down a bow with a bow quiver? Thanks in advance.
It's just more bulk. Using the safari tuff it's set off someplace out of the way.
Post by: Even on August 20, 2024, 01:31:28 AM
Thats the single biggest reason I love my back quiver. When hunting, its the first shot that counts... usually ;)
I don't even think about it anymore... another arrow is on the string waiting to see how the first shot works out.
Post by: smokin joe on August 20, 2024, 09:10:25 AM
For a pack, That changes during the season depending on what I am taking with me. I have a few options from a small fanny pack to a day pack that I can fit lunch and a thermos and a warm jacket into.
Post by: Walt Francis on August 20, 2024, 08:59:29 PM
Mike, not sure what cover you are in or how you hunt, but I LOVE a bow quiver in the thick stuff. It is much easier to get one item through the brush than two items, especially when the 2nd item in behind you.
So much unnecessary movement and noise for me not to use a bow quiver on just about every hunting scenario. Just one item in front of me to slip through the brush, no need for me to double the trouble. No way would I be as efficient hunting the way I do with two items to maneuver. Twice the movement and twice the chance of more noise, most of which would largely be from the 2nd item.
Just my experience Mike. :thumbsup: :campfire:
Check this brush, the 1st clip was when I got within 10 yards, the 2nd was at 4.
Sorry for the delay, let em load.....
https://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/20230203_175329.mp4
https://www.tradgang.com/upload/terry/20230203_175429.mp4
Could not have expressed my thoughts better then Terry.
Post by: Walt Francis on August 20, 2024, 09:06:12 PM
For all you bow quiver guys, how quickly can you have another arrow on the string? Do you think you give up something there, or not, with a lot of practice?
Thats the single biggest reason I love my back quiver. When hunting, its the first shot that counts... usually ;)
I don't even think about it anymore... another arrow is on the string waiting to see how the first shot works out.
I’m fairly fast getting the next arrow out when needed. Not as fast as with a back quiver, but fairly fast. More important, is getting the arrow out with minimal movement. Drawing an arrow from a back quiver is a lot more movement than removing an arrow from the bow quiver.
Post by: Maclean on August 20, 2024, 10:02:58 PM
Post by: Deno on August 21, 2024, 12:47:42 AM
Post by: Longtoke on August 21, 2024, 01:02:23 AM
I also think the mass it gives helps me shoot light bows like my Pika better.
Post by: cacciatore on August 21, 2024, 08:44:06 AM
Post by: Skates 2 on August 22, 2024, 10:09:01 AM
Post by: Even on August 22, 2024, 07:09:40 PM
Deno, love that old shoulder bag.
Post by: Deno on August 23, 2024, 01:26:08 AM
I get it... it would sure make pack selection a hell of a lot easier!
Deno, love that old shoulder bag.
/quote] Thanks Dave, Very easy to make.
Post by: two4hooking on August 23, 2024, 02:19:42 PM
Post by: Tim Reese on August 23, 2024, 06:23:14 PM
Or your back quiver with haversack is a great option and very similar.
Yeah like two4’s pics above
Post by: Tim Reese on August 23, 2024, 06:30:58 PM
Post by: Kyle85 on August 23, 2024, 08:03:54 PM
I hunt in thick stuff and steep stuff that occasionally will require utilizing the takedown feature of my bows so I can climb safely, but a bow quiver makes this more complicated. This, plus the fact that I like the bare bow look and feel, makes me a side-quiver guy.
The X2 has moly attachments and I run a single thin flat nylon strap with a cinching hook at one end and a loop at the other through the moly and through a plastic d-ring on the Safari-tuff quiver and it attaches perfectly on the side of the pack. I don't have to touch it and my next arrow is right beside where my hand naturally falls. I actually have it on in my profile picture on my right side, you just can't see it.
The other advantage here is that between going through thick brush and occasional rain showers here in Hawaii I can protect my fletching with the side quiver.
I can carry several broadheads in there and I usually slip a blunt arrow in the back as well for stump shooting. I think something like a forward-facing hip quiver like the one Omnivore's homestead makes could work as well, just less fletching protection of course.
Post by: Even on August 24, 2024, 12:50:34 AM
I've been IN some of the thick stuff on the Big Island, and Maui, and its bloody thick, and usually steep. Amazing to me that you find a side quiver works for you. Eberlestock makes sweet packs!
I'm originally from North Coastal BC, and I don't know if it gets much thicker than that, in places. Its a wall of green. Never had an issue with the back quiver, aside from the odd time it just got TOO thick.
Ive seen some of the pictures that Terry posts, with that nasty Texas scrub stuff, and its thick too. It also looks thorny and stiff, like pushing through it isn't usually a good idea. Amazing to me that it isn't always trying to claw your bow quiver arrows out of their spots.
I guess its all what you are used to, hey? That is kinda what this thread is about: seeing what people do, for the type of hunting they do, and getting ideas.
I know, looking at two4hooking's awesome pics, that I am DEFINITELY finding a thicker belt than I have. Spread the load!
Post by: two4hooking on August 24, 2024, 08:19:27 AM