Post by: VTer on March 24, 2025, 12:12:07 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 24, 2025, 12:19:03 PM
Post by: Smguinnip on March 24, 2025, 08:01:10 PM
Post by: Kirkll on March 24, 2025, 09:05:39 PM
Gonna hijack here a little bit, but something I’ve been concerned about is warping. Seems like wetting down a thin veneer with dyes would cause warping. Does this happen, and if so, how do you mitigate it?
If your veneers are less than .030 you may get a bit of twist in them drying out, but it wont cause a problem.
Personally i hate water base stain. I have a tough time getting it even....the denatured alcohol with a touch of compatible alcohol based color is the best.
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 24, 2025, 09:54:54 PM
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Post by: Richard Korte on March 24, 2025, 11:37:53 PM
Post by: Kirkll on March 25, 2025, 12:05:47 PM
Here is you some stain Kirk
That looks just like a deposit my dog left in the yard after eating too much Zuchini. :biglaugh:
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 25, 2025, 04:54:13 PM
Post by: Noah70 on March 25, 2025, 11:54:25 PM
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 26, 2025, 07:57:59 AM
Post by: Kirkll on March 26, 2025, 10:45:48 AM
I went on to experiment with lateral limb adjustment hardware mounted in the riser and slotting the location pin hole on the limbs. That was a sucsess, but expensive to have the hardware machined.
Then I had issues with customers messing with the alignment adjustment and causing limb twist issues. It was a great idea, and saved a lot of tip notch adjustment putting the bows together and getting things tracking straight, but having unqualified archers messing with it isn’t something you can control, so I gave up on using it. I’ve actually still got quite a few sets of that lateral limb adjustment hardware. I should get some photos and sell those things to bowyers that want to play with it.
I finally figured out the best system was using two location pins. One above and below the limb bolt spaced at 2.5” apart, and I slot the outer pin hole in the limb about .040, and use an over sized hole in the limb for the limb bolt, and no bushings. Using this system, the limbs typically fit perfectly 1st time with no messing around filing the bolt hole, and mount on the riser damn close to straight every time too….
Kirk
Post by: Crooked Stic on March 26, 2025, 10:52:32 AM
Post by: Tim Finley on March 26, 2025, 11:06:51 AM
Post by: Kirkll on March 26, 2025, 11:10:18 AM
Kirk perzactly right about the two pin line up system. Those particular limbs in the pic tracked good but the riser to limbfit was not. So it's back in Germany getting fixed,
I think that’s the first time I’ve ever seen location pins mounted in the limb before.
Post by: derekdiruz on March 26, 2025, 01:09:08 PM
I have used Alcohol based stain with success on 4-5 bows. From General finishes, in a red can, at my local store.
Post by: Noah70 on March 26, 2025, 06:55:08 PM
I use 2 pins as well, but I don’t drill them until the riser and limbs are exactly the same width, then with the bolt in place I clamp riser and limbs onto the 100% flat table saw, and drill the pin holes through from the top of the limb, and cover over with a cap later. Works great!
Post by: Kirkll on March 26, 2025, 09:02:13 PM
Thanks for the insight and advice, Stic and Kirk ! Much appreciated!
I use 2 pins as well, but I don’t drill them until the riser and limbs are exactly the same width, then with the bolt in place I clamp riser and limbs onto the 100% flat table saw, and drill the pin holes through from the top of the limb, and cover over with a cap later. Works great!
That system of drilling through the limbs after it’s straight for location pins works excellent until you want to build an extra set of limbs for the same riser. Then all bets are off….