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Title: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: PastorSteveHill on July 03, 2008, 11:47:00 PM
Just wondering what your favorite Widow is? Why?

I've tried them all now. PSR/PLX/PTF/PSA/PMA

For me the PTF is the one.... I've honestly tried to get the others to shoot as good, but the one piece seems to be the ticket for me.  Your thoughts
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: BrianP on July 04, 2008, 12:02:00 AM
"SAG" 65# @ 31"  Short Autumn Gray.  Think they're called PSRs now.  Very fast, quick to point, and the only bow I own that I will shoot carbons off.  Plenty of utility in the field...not the prettiest thing in the world, but I'm not trying to get a Friday night date with it either.  I don't mind putting a scratch on it as I know it will perform well even after a bit of a beating...this bow has "character" and could tell a story or two.  Brian
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: WidowEater on July 04, 2008, 12:03:00 AM
i have put real honest to goodness time in on only the MA series.  Compared to anything else I have shot these are leaps and bounds better.  I shot a LAG a few times and it shot great but the stability of the heavy riser of the MA is excellent.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: fireman_3311 on July 04, 2008, 12:42:00 AM
Another vote for the MA!!!  I'm shooting a 1999 model MA-III, 64", that I bought new...Just can't make meself shoot another bow, cuz then "Dorothy" would just be hangin there on da wall!!!
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on July 04, 2008, 02:06:00 AM
Haven't met a bad one yet!
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Al Kidner on July 04, 2008, 02:18:00 AM
I'd never thought I'd say a bad word against my PSAX KIngwood..... but .... my new PLX Kingwood with the old LAG grip is a nail driver.

Set at 66# at my draw of 30" I find it hard to leave it alone now.


AK.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Cherokee Scout on July 04, 2008, 05:37:00 AM
I like the PSRs best.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: blinds on July 04, 2008, 06:39:00 AM
I have juat  two models. A SA-111, 62",44# and a PLX cocobolo,with a LAG grip,64",42# As much as I liked the SA, I have to say that my PLX is the most natural shooter for me of any bow I've ever tried.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Bob Miller on July 04, 2008, 06:42:00 AM
I have shot Black Widow longbows since they first came out. I like both the PLX and PSRX the best.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: doeboy on July 04, 2008, 07:52:00 AM
I just got my first widow last week. PSA-X in Kingwood, 60",55#@28 inches.Its a very nice bow. it shoots well and is very comfortable in the hand.It Has the "Low Grip" handle.Very nice bow.Glad i made a good decision.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: doug77 on July 04, 2008, 08:19:00 AM
PSR for me but looking for a PSA III

doug77
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: bowmac on July 04, 2008, 08:41:00 AM
Have had several but presently a PSAV and the LAG. Still always go back to the LAG, its not as fast but pure enjoyment to shoot.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: ranger 3 on July 04, 2008, 08:41:00 AM
I hav a PL111 now I like  and am looking for a PLX when I sell my Tomahawk

Howard
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Toxophilite on July 04, 2008, 08:55:00 AM
Steve,
I'm 100% with you on the TF or PTF series being top of the Black Widow line.  I've shot all the current BW models. They're all outstanding bows.  The PTF or TF bows just shoot the best for me.
Toxo
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Jedimaster on July 04, 2008, 09:14:00 AM
PSA II.  I've only tried the PSA, the PMAV and the new PA.  I had a PSAX and should have kept it but what I really wanted was the PSAII, just something I really dig about that grey color.  If I could get a grey PA with a bow bolt I'd be happy as a groundhog in soft dirt.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Widowbender on July 04, 2008, 10:24:00 AM
I have three: MAIII, SAG, PLGA...I love them all but  have hunted mostly with the SAG, But the PLGA is probably the best shooting bow I have and will be sharing time in the woods this fall. They both have the same grip so I don't have to make adjustments in the way I shoot them.

David
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Toxophilite on July 04, 2008, 10:44:00 AM
Now you know why they have horse races!

All you folks who commmented on the lonbows and the takedowns--have any of you ever had or shot a TF or a PTF?
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: swp on July 04, 2008, 10:49:00 AM
PSR for me.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: WidowEater on July 04, 2008, 10:51:00 AM
I havent shot one, only MAs and an LAG.  If one comes up sor sale I will probably buy it even if it isint in my weight range.

Funny thing though Tox, and your point is proven as I say this, I dont see them for sale much.  As in never, of course I am a lefty....
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Morning Star on July 04, 2008, 10:54:00 AM
I like them all, really do....but if I was gonna pick one for meat and pataters.....56" PTF hands down.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: John3 on July 04, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
I've owned a PSA and PGA. I truly love a one piece recurve. My PGA may be the best shooting recurve bow I've ever owned.

JDS III
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: oldskool on July 04, 2008, 11:30:00 AM
PTF for me. Why? It's the only one I own or shoot.
I like the light weight one piece no bushings simple bow.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: frassettor on July 04, 2008, 11:49:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ben Kleinig:
Haven't met a bad one yet!
I second that. I have a PMAV, and 1 more week I will have my PLX. I love these bows  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: nontypical on July 04, 2008, 12:17:00 PM
I own 5.2-MA's,1-PMA,1-SAB,1-PAX, and ALL are my favs.They all shoot good in MY hands.Wouldnt trade/sell any of them!!

PETE
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Larry247 on July 04, 2008, 12:27:00 PM
I like the SA's and the MA's and also the TF.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Outwest on July 04, 2008, 12:55:00 PM
I have two a PMA11 and a PLGA.
While they are both excellent bows I have recurves that I shoot better than the PMA11.
But the PLGA is my go to bow. Shoot it better than any other bow I have tried.

John
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Rick Butler on July 04, 2008, 01:34:00 PM
Two years ago I ordered a PSAV,62",and 53 lbs at 28".  Not one to wait patiently I bought an SAV 58" and 49 lbs. at 28 in. and had it refinished by BW. Great shooters both, but then at Compton's that same year I won a PLIII, 66" and 54 lbs @28 in. I must say that longbow is my favorite, so much so that I have another on order right now in a T/D model.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: MDbowhunter on July 04, 2008, 02:24:00 PM
I like the HS.

too bad they don't make it anymore
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Timberghost on July 04, 2008, 02:27:00 PM
PMA II,  62",  54#@30"   Smooth, baby!
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Onestringer on July 04, 2008, 02:49:00 PM
I like the PSA but then again thats all I own.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: grizzlyxx on July 04, 2008, 03:33:00 PM
I had a sa that shot well, but always shot a friend of mine Ma better.  Have a Pmax on order, sitting on week 5.  Steve I already told you that the bow you shoot the best is any you bow you pick up.  By the way he has not only shot them all but owned them all!  See you pal.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: sswv on July 04, 2008, 03:33:00 PM
I really like the SA's the best and 56-58"s works best for me. one thing for sure...you can't go wrong with any Black Widow bow.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: JEFF B on July 04, 2008, 04:23:00 PM
iam about to get a black widow recurve psr2 it is 56" and #54 @27" draw i have never had one of these bows as i cant afford to buy one well not in this life time. any way i did a deal with rastaman i had a knife that i wanted to swap for a bow and  we did just that. man i cant wait to get that bow in  my hands. thank you so much randy.  :notworthy:    :notworthy:    :notworthy:    :notworthy:  i will post pics as soon as i get it. jeff
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Chuck Mullaley on July 04, 2008, 04:53:00 PM
I'm really partial to my PGA, or is it my TF... somedays it's my PMAX and then other days I'm partial to my MAV...

So many bows, so little time to hunt with them.

(I believe a cocobolo/osage PSAX is in my future, but I'd really like a tulipwood PA...)
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on July 04, 2008, 06:39:00 PM
If any of you proud and happy PSR owners could send me a photo or two of your PSR, I'd greatly appreciate it!
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Stickbow98 on July 04, 2008, 08:11:00 PM
I have a couple of favorite bows, but my favorite "Widow" is a 60" SAII Graybark TD. It draws smooth, shoots soft, and hits HARD...and right where it's pointed!    :thumbsup:  

>>--Ron--<>
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Charlie Cole on July 04, 2008, 08:33:00 PM
I'd also like any strung PSR pictures if anybody has some!

Thanks,
-Charlie
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: koger on July 04, 2008, 09:57:00 PM
I have two 1226 Hunters, 60" 1974 Alum. handle versions of the MA, one with 51#@28 and the other with case and 2 sets of limbs, #45 and #55@28. Will be with me till I die. Shoot them 4-5 times a week, never any problems and shoot where I look to 25yds. Sam.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Dano on July 04, 2008, 10:45:00 PM
Black Widow's stack badly I've heard.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Otto on July 04, 2008, 11:14:00 PM
Dano

Heh heh....I wouldn't give $20 for a barrell of em.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: longstick on July 04, 2008, 11:31:00 PM
Love my PMAV
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Dave Lay on July 05, 2008, 12:13:00 AM
60" PSAII very sweet shooting bow, beautiful color and perfect mass weight.. just hits where ya look and draws SO smooth!!
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: WidowEater on July 05, 2008, 12:46:00 AM
Im in on the little joke too.  Theyre not very fast or smooth or stable either.

i didnt know what stack was in a bow until I shot another bow after a long time of only shooting a widow.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: BrianP on July 05, 2008, 10:07:00 AM
From what I can tell over the years, Stacking is the inability of one's body and mind to draw the bow to full draw.  You boys may want to go back to compounds...its apparent you all like "reverse stacking".  (still in on the joke).

Brian
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Mike Bolin on July 05, 2008, 12:56:00 PM
Started off with a MAIII and then bought a PSAII. Both were very sweet bows! I am shooting a PLII now and I had a LAG. If I was to buy a new bow today, I would order another PL with the LAG grip. I shot a PSAX at Compton with the low wrist grip and it was pretty sweet too. Mike
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: KYArcher on July 05, 2008, 03:45:00 PM
PLX!
                        KY  :archer:
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Outwest on July 05, 2008, 09:18:00 PM
Ask BOBO !!!
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: sendero25 on July 05, 2008, 09:32:00 PM
My PLV!
John
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: D. Key on July 07, 2008, 08:52:00 AM
Steve:

My favorite is the recent PSR I bought from you.  It's a real shooter and great looker too.  

It was very nice to meet you and visit.

Doug Key
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Pinecone on July 07, 2008, 03:00:00 PM
PSA series for me.

Claudia
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Irish on July 07, 2008, 03:28:00 PM
PTFX and the PSA bows, Asbell grip, in 58" length
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Charlie Cole on July 07, 2008, 09:18:00 PM
Nobody has pics of strung-up PSRs? Well, it was worth a try.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Yellow Dog on July 19, 2008, 09:53:00 PM
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/Yellowdog3822/PC180290.jpg)

Here's one for you Charlie, 60" 50@30 PSRV with a SAG grip.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: ZA206 on July 19, 2008, 10:03:00 PM
PSA right now, but will be adding a PLX to the stable within the next 12-18 months.

I love my widow and can't wait to get another. I'm fascinated with the PTF's though... sweet looking bows!

-ZA
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: PastorSteveHill on July 20, 2008, 12:16:00 AM
After spending an incredible amount of time and energy, I'm beginning to shoot my PL X better... I think it comes down to spending alot of time with a bow. Which every you decide on, just shoot it exclusively. At least for me that is what is working....  Hard to do sometimes though.. I always seem to think the next bow will improve my shooting, when if I'd just spend more time and mental energy on my form, I'd be right where I want to be....

In any case, love the longbow... Steve
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: the elf on July 20, 2008, 09:43:00 AM
Since I shoot lefthanded there aren't very many in my neck of the woods to try.A few years ago I bought a PMA--and fell in love---and now I have 4.Two at 58 inch and two at 60 inch;all different poundage preparing for old age --far in the future--I hope.-----ELF.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Jimscol on July 21, 2008, 11:16:00 PM
(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd313/jimscol/hunting/P1180040s.jpg)

Here is a strung PSR.  The little deer is an Arizona Coues deer from January this year.  Jim
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Schafer on July 22, 2008, 01:52:00 PM
P.S.R. Because it is the only one i have used and the fact that it is short is helpfull sence i'm no that tall.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: shedhunter on July 22, 2008, 07:25:00 PM
PL then psr for me.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: buckster on July 22, 2008, 09:22:00 PM
PSA5 is real nice, but I haven't owned or shot the rest yet.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: ironwood on July 25, 2008, 03:32:00 PM
Ive had a SA,PL,and now PSR which i won't get rid of i am going to get another one for a backup bow it is great.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: BillW on July 25, 2008, 05:01:00 PM
I have a dilemma, I Love my PSA3 w/boo limbs.
   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/th_WidowinAK.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/WidowinAK.jpg)

I also love my TF3 (No pix)

And I got this newer LX (Cocobola)
   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/th_blackwidowlxlongbow011.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/blackwidowlxlongbow011.jpg)

Tough to not shoot the PSA because we have this history:
Alaska
   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/Hunting/th_MyCaribou20061.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/Hunting/MyCaribou20061.jpg)

My first deer w/recurve
   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/Hunting/th_2005TradBuck.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/bfisherman11/Hunting/2005TradBuck.jpg)


Nice problem to have... LOL

Regards,
Bill

OK the PSA is my go to main bow. All the rest are just fun.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Blackstick on July 26, 2008, 01:41:00 AM
I have one of their first longbows, LBS, and it's the only bow I'm spending time with this year. I did get a TF last week, it seems sweet too.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: GrayRhino on July 26, 2008, 04:15:00 AM
I only have one bow, my PMA II.  I'm satisfied!  

 (http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n140/ryanita/P9290109.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Benny Nganabbarru on July 26, 2008, 04:19:00 AM
Fiji having a cold snap, in that photo, Ryan? Just kidding, but it sure looks cold!
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: GrayRhino on July 26, 2008, 04:54:00 AM
Howdy Ben, it WAS cold out there last year on our interior Alaska moose hunt...especially after having lived 7 years in the tropics!  Nothing quite like being out in that wilderness though.  I'm looking forward to when I can do it again!
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: TC in IL on July 27, 2008, 04:07:00 PM
My 1990 MAII.
Title: Re: Black Widow Bows/ Your Favorite...
Post by: Scott J. Williams on July 27, 2008, 08:37:00 PM
My PLX Osage, is my favorite of late, but when the chips are down, and I need to "get-er-done" my hard hitting 2001 SAV Ironwood gets the call.

They both shoot where I look, but the physical weight of the SAV, while not my choice for walking over hill, and dell, is my pick it for a stand bow.  

It's weight, in the Ironwood configuration, helps me hold my bow arm steady.  It has accounted for some great shots on the range, and in the field.  

It is kind of funny, because a short time after I got the Ironwood, I put it on ****.  Thank God it did not sell.  I spent an hour on the phone with Ken Beck, trying to figure out what I was doing wrong.  Well we got it fixed, and that Widow, and Mr. Beck, are a big reason why I shoot as well as I do.  I have owned a number of fine bows, of all types, but Black Widow, in longbow, or recurve are  my choice.

My PLX osage is a joy to shoot, light in the hand, and as fast as any of the Widow Recurves I have shot at the same draw weight.  It is my favorite because I can go from my recurve to my longbow with no adjustment time.  It is quick, fast, and silent.  At 62 inches, I can shoot just fine along side of my Girlfriend, she shoots and 58 inch Black Rhino,  in our Eastman Blinds.  

It is a great all around bow.  I know there a many on this site that hate Widows, and I am not going to say it is the perfect bow.  What I will say is that it is the perfect bow for me, my shooting style, and the way that I hunt.  

As "Bill O'Rielly" often says, "What Say Ye?"