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Title: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Cherokee Scout on August 11, 2008, 06:13:00 PM
Ok guys, I am giving you this one for free. I love short bows, I draw 29". I shoot split fingers, but I have no finger pinch! After years of really sore upper finger and trying everything to stop the pinch, I have finally discovered a cure. I have tried to get this developed out of plastic so I an sell them, but have had no luck. Anyhow, you can have this idea for yourself.
Take an empty soda can, cut it open with scissors. Lay it flat on table. Fold the flat aluminum over so you will double the thickness of the aluminum. Cut out the pattern in the pictures below. Be sure to cut the pattern so that the fold in the aluminum will hold the pattern together in double thickness. Wrap the cut out aluminum with a layer of duct tape to cover the sharp edges.Bend the cut aluminum pattern into a "U" shape that will fit inside the top finger of your glove. This aluminum liner will protect your finger, If made to the correct size, it will not come out of the finger slot of the glove and there is nothing is between your finger and the string except the glove. If done correctly, you will not know the liner is in the glove.
All you will notice is "NO MORE FINGER PINCH",
 (http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/srtaphotos/secret.jpg)
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Cherokee Scout on August 11, 2008, 06:13:00 PM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/srtaphotos/secretb.jpg)

If made to correct size it should fit down the side of the finger but no so long on side that it pushes against the string from inside the glove.
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Cherokee Scout on August 11, 2008, 06:14:00 PM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/srtaphotos/secreta.jpg)
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Cherokee Scout on August 11, 2008, 06:15:00 PM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/srtaphotos/secretc.jpg)

Push the liner up inside the glove.
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Cherokee Scout on August 11, 2008, 06:15:00 PM
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/srtaphotos/secretd.jpg)

Once it is in the finger of the glove, you should not be able to see it or even know it is there. Mine has never fallen out of the finger.
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: HATCHCHASER on August 11, 2008, 06:29:00 PM
What if you shoot with a tab?  :goldtooth:
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Post by: frassettor on August 11, 2008, 06:47:00 PM
Neat idea!
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Post by: Jedimaster on August 11, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
Nice of you to share.  Thanks for the helpful tip.
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: WildmanSC on August 11, 2008, 07:12:00 PM
John,

Will this work with any style of glove?  I shoot the Skookum glove from Alaska Archery.  If I'm correct, you are shooting a glove from American Leathers.  I recognize the nylon of the face of the finger stalls.

Also, the finger I get the most pinch with is the bottom finger.  I always have a callous on the bottom side of that finger.  I have it despite shooting 3 fingers under.

Bill
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Terry Green on August 11, 2008, 07:16:00 PM
Here's a trick I figured out shooting a short bow, and I shoot this way now with all bows.

Preset your fingers leading with your middle finger, having your index and ring finger staggered a half with back of your middle finger, and draw leading with your middle finger.

This presets the fingers in the same position they will end up at full draw, but they don't ROLL back and pinch.

Try it, it may work for you as well.
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: joebuck on August 11, 2008, 07:32:00 PM
Before I start drawing, i extend my index out straight, my middle finger has a deep grip and ring finger slightly on the string....I shot a 48" bow for 3 years...I shoot this grip from everything also.. I take my index totally out and also tiller my bows for this
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Don Stokes on August 11, 2008, 08:18:00 PM
Joey, that helps to explain to me why you shoot such a stiff arrow. You lose less to friction on the release. The concentration of pressure would also help to make a crisp release. Bet you have a good callus.

You're too big to shoot a 48" bow- you adapted your string grip to your environment.    :)
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Cherokee Scout on August 11, 2008, 09:50:00 PM
My liner will work on any glove, you just have to make it fit inside the top finger hole. I have used it on several gloves including the Damascus.
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: joebuck on August 11, 2008, 09:56:00 PM
Don  ( as always) your exactly right. I basically shoot my bow as my middle finger is like a release.. I almost shoot 1 finger. The guys at compound store can't believe I shoot bullet hole through paper tuning with trad gear....I really can shoot 65-110# arrows through my center shot bow.............but the man above gave me really strong hands and fingers...so I strong enough to do it........I sold that 48" bow . it was one loud rascal....
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: wihill on August 11, 2008, 10:04:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by joebuck:
Don  ( as always) your exactly right. I basically shoot my bow as my middle finger is like a release.. I almost shoot 1 finger. The guys at compound store can't believe I shoot bullet hole through paper tuning with trad gear....I really can shoot 65-110# arrows through my center shot bow.............but the man above gave me really strong hands and fingers...so I strong enough to do it........I sold that 48" bow . it was one loud rascal....
I noticed this is what I do also!  I only use two fingers with my mechanical releases, so when I moved to finger releases I just removed my index finger from my release.  Anatomically, your middle finger has the most strength when you put it teamed up with your ring finger (an old trick from rock climbing, never use the index finger and the middle finger on the same hold, it's not as strong as the middle/ring combo) so when I began shooting split finger, it just made sense to me to rest my index on the string, and use my middle finger to draw/hold and my ring finger to back it up.

Works great for me!

  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: SOS on August 11, 2008, 10:47:00 PM
I concentrate on the middle finger pulling into anchor, the others are there, but kind of along for the ride.

I gotta say my finger problems on my 56" ChekMate hunter were in my ring finger - don't know that my index finger has been a problem.  The Big Shot glove has helped on all bows.  Now problems at all with a 62" ChekMate and 64" homemade longbow.
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: JEFF B on August 11, 2008, 11:22:00 PM
great idea!!
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Post by: Winterhawk1960 on August 12, 2008, 08:22:00 AM
ttt.....for a GREAT idea !!!!

Winterhawk1960
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Kip on August 12, 2008, 09:27:00 AM
John will a beer can work got some of those.Thanks I will try it although I shoot mostly 58" and sometimes 52" and 54" I never had a real problem.Kip
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: B4NZ41 on August 12, 2008, 10:34:00 AM
Thanks for the post. A buddy of mine has had to wrap up his finger in band aids before he shoots, and his finger still bleeds bad. I'm sure he'll be glad to give this a try.  :D
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Cherokee Scout on August 12, 2008, 03:22:00 PM
The problem with using a beer can is your finger might get cited for shooting under the influence!
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: WildmanSC on August 12, 2008, 03:44:00 PM
John,

Since the finger I have problems with is my ring finger, wouldn't I want to downsize the implement and insert it in the stall for my ring finger?  I get a heavy callous on my ring finger no matter what kind of bow I'm shooting and no matter what kind of tab or glove.  It seems to be less with the Skookum, but I still get a callous.  

I shot a Big Shot for about 2.5 months one late Spring and early Summer.  I loved the glove, but unfortunately, the soft leather couldn't stand up to my heavy perspiration and the strength of the string used to sew the glove together.  I also had a problem with the finger stalls constantly rotating.

Bill
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: AZStickman on August 12, 2008, 05:23:00 PM
Here's the best solution I've found. I started shooting these in the 80's and really liked them.

  http://www.bowyersworkshop.com/twofingertab.htm  

Terry
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Cherokee Scout on August 12, 2008, 09:12:00 PM
This thing protects only the side of the finger where it is being pushed against the arrow nock. If your problem is from string pressure on the fingerprint part of the finger, it will not help.
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: Tom Anderson on August 12, 2008, 09:14:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by AZStickman:
Here's the best solution I've found. I started shooting these in the 80's and really liked them.
   http://www.bowyersworkshop.com/twofingertab.htm  
Terry, that looks like a novel concept - I think I may try to make up one myself to try.
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Post by: Irish Archer on August 12, 2008, 09:36:00 PM
Looks good.
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Post by: tecum-tha on August 13, 2008, 05:21:00 AM
I have all of my cloves armoured similar like that for years, but I use thin stainless steel. I put it between the glove leather and the tip leather,so it remains hidden. Since I build all my cloves myself, there is no problem putting it in. I may post my glove model sometimes..
Title: Re: Finger Pinch Solved - secret revealed
Post by: kctreeman on August 13, 2008, 02:03:00 PM
Thanks for the tip. I solved my release problems by going to a two finger under tab. Working pretty well so far I like the two finger under style, eliminates sttring pinch and cleans my release. Seems a Little tougher on the fingers at first and sighting is a little different at first.  Anybody else use the two under style?