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Title: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Jwilliam on January 24, 2009, 09:40:00 AM
I have always shot 3, 5" right wing shield cut feathers with a pretty hard helical in them. I have thought about trying 4 fletch for awhile now. So yesterday I fletched up a couple of arrows with 4" 4 fletch. I am really supprised at how well they fly. I was just wondering if there are any advantages to either fletch pattern? I also was wondering if the 4 fletch would be any slower?

Thanks, Bill
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Bill Carlsen on January 24, 2009, 09:59:00 AM
Bill: I've shot 3 fletch since the mid fities. About two years ago a friend of mine started to shoot four fletch and he said that it seemed to make his arrows more stable. I have a Jo Jan with a 120x60 indexer so I fletched a few up with four inch feathers and liked them so much that everything I make for my wife and myself now are that configuration. I also found that I can get two good fletches from most feathers so I now use 1/3 fewer feathers to fletch a dozen.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Charles Sorrells on January 24, 2009, 10:07:00 AM
I use four fletch; in addition to the extra stablization as mentioned above, I like the fact that no matter how I get the nock to the string it is ready to shoot.    

No indexing or looking for a cock feather.  This is especially handy when you have to shoot quickly for an unexpected opportunity or trying to get a nock on the string for a follow-up shot in the midst of an adrenaline dump.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: 30coupe on January 24, 2009, 10:41:00 AM
Yes, they will be a bit slower, but not enough to make a bit of difference. Arrow stability is more important anyway. I have shot just about every combination and find that there is not a great deal of difference as long as your arrows are well tuned. If you see a difference in flight, you probably need to check your tune.

Lately, I have gone back to three fletch because I see little difference in arrow flight, and I can save one feather per arrow. I also see no difference in arrow flight between cock feather in or cock feather out. I shoot cock feather in because my feathers don't wear out as fast that way. In the heat of the hunt, when the adrenaline kicks in, the deer will never know the difference.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on January 24, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
I just like 4 fletch because it doesn't matter which way I nock my arrow.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: ishiwannabe on January 24, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
Yeah, what they said. I doubt my hunting arrows will ever be 3-fletched again...
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Tree man on January 24, 2009, 03:40:00 PM
As 30Coupe indicated-feather orientation makes little real difference in flight. I prefer 4 fletch for fast stabilization AND greater inflight visibility.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Hamish on January 24, 2009, 03:44:00 PM
I run 4" 4 fletch also for the above reasons.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: JAG on January 24, 2009, 04:53:00 PM
I just like it!  5" Low Profile Banna Cut!  Makes my arrows unique, where I hunt.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Gordon martiniuk on January 24, 2009, 05:22:00 PM
I use both 3 & 4 fletch ,,   Broadheads seem to fly really well with 4 Fletch and as others say you cannot nock arrows wrong,,  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Rigs on January 24, 2009, 10:37:00 PM
So are you fletching 90*X90*, or 60*X120*?  What do you find working the best for you?

Happy hunting,
Jason
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Jerry Jeffer on January 25, 2009, 12:58:00 AM
Either way Rigs. don't see a difference.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Hattrick on January 25, 2009, 02:42:00 AM
I`ve just started shooting 3 4"  an i`m impressed so far. I shot 3 5.5" shealds an high bannanas for years, i didn`t like the noise from the nanners but i did like the arrow flight(before i tuned my arrows). I`ve changed my arrow set up alot ,adding a lot of point weight an bare shaft tune my set up, an now it seems i don`t need as much feathers for good flight.JAG are the low nanners  noisy??If not that may be best of both worlds. Just curious i`ve been thinking of trying the 5"-4"low nanners.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Rob DiStefano on January 25, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
After decades of using a 5-1/2" helical 3-fletch for huntin' arras, I did some serious testing and found that a 4" low profile offset 4-fletch allowed for a faster arrow that was just as stable as those big ol' feathers.  

I use either 75x105 or 90x90 feather configuration, don't matter that much to me.

Other advantages are chopping or burning a pair of fletches from a single full length feather (as opposed to getting just one fletch), and you no longer need an indexed nock as there is no cock feather to be concerned about ... this is for carbon or alum shafts, where the shaft spine is consistent for 360 degrees around the shaft diameter ... one piece non-laminated woodies will probably need to be indexed since the shaft's spine is very directional.

Big 3-fletch ...
      (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/arra1.jpg)

Big 3-fletch and hi-profile 4-fletch ...
      (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/3-4fletch.jpg)

My current lo-profile 4-fletch ...
     (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/jc4fletch2.jpg)

    (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v82/rfdee/archery/jc4fletch.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on January 25, 2009, 10:31:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Rigs:
So are you fletching 90*X90*, or 60*X120*?  What do you find working the best for you?

Happy hunting,
Jason
I use 90 degree, but a lot of people use 60-120 and it works well for them.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Deadbolt on January 25, 2009, 12:19:00 PM
Has anyone used 4x3"? I shoot 4x4" now but was wonering if 3" would work especially with EFOC setups
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Jason R. Wesbrock on January 25, 2009, 12:30:00 PM
Deadbolt,

I used to shoot 4 3" feather for target, but never saw any advantage to it, so I went back to my regular flething configuration.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: highpoint forge on January 25, 2009, 12:47:00 PM
I shoot 5" LW right helical shield cut and had this problem on my PSAV 51#. I added that BW brush style rest to this bow. On my new PSAX 57# no issue whatsoever. What am I doing different?Asbell shooting stance.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: East Coast archer on January 30, 2009, 09:50:00 PM
Deadbolt
After following the EFOC and fletching thread I experimented and cut some 5" shields down to 4" hunter fletches at 1/2" height and fletched 3 onto a CX Heritage 150 that has 275 grains up front.  I shot it outside at up to 30 yards in a heavy crosswind last weekend with a field point and a Razorcap on it and it seemed to work well with my setup, even recovered in the wind better then my original 5" shield arrow.  It seemed to hit approx. 1/2" high at 20 yards and seemed quieter to me.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Stone Knife on January 31, 2009, 04:16:00 AM
I like to shoot 4x4 but I have shot 3x4 and they are nice if your tuned up right.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Teacher_of_the_Arcane on January 31, 2009, 09:14:00 AM
Hi All,

I've shot three feather and four feather, and both seem to work well for me.  There was a thread here on Tradgang not too long ago about two feather fletching, and those who responded said that set up also worked fine.  So, as I'm making arrows for this spring, I'm going to try a few and compare with the three fletch I had originally intended to make.

So many toys, so little time!!   :)
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: Terry Green on January 31, 2009, 09:28:00 AM
I really don't think it makes a hill of beans whether there's 3 or 4 feathers on your arrows....

What is MUCH more important is that you have enough feather to stabilize your arrow in the field,...NOT just your back yard.
Title: Re: 4 fletch vs. 3 fletch
Post by: BlueBarred on January 31, 2009, 08:52:00 PM
After reading the epic thread about high FOC and fletching, I made up some 4x2.5 (.5" tall)fletches for my 24% FOC arrows. They have been awesome to shoot, whether in rain, wind, or whatever. Plus they are extremely quiet. I will add that so far, most of my shooting has been with field points, but the one or two hundred shots I have done with some Grizzly 160's have shown no noticeable difference. Remember the requirement for smaller fletching to adequately stabilize your arrows is high FOC, which creates a longer 'steering arm' between the fletch and the balance point of the arrow. So far so good. But I'm still learning about all this.
Dave