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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Bear Heart on July 03, 2009, 01:05:00 PM
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I am not going to question if the elites are worth the asking price. I have learned enough from folks on here to know that the process from conception to production ain't cheap.
I just want to if anyone has needed a one piece broadhead on north american game. I have not seen the regular WW fall apart.
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both are good heads i took a look at the elites at the last shoot i was at and i must say they are made very well, but i dont care for the smaller size, the old ones have taken about everything you can kill in North America so they are proven
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I'm done chasing the "latest and greatest" whether it be broadheads, cellphones or computers. What I have works fine! WW originals. I've gotten complete pass-troughs on bears, hogs, deer-each and every time. They are easy to sharpen too. When I am out of the dozen or more that I have then I will revisit the newest single bevel or whatever.
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Im with curveman on this one. I am "single beveled out" and sticking with snuffers and sometimes maybe the original woodsman. The new woodsman heads are on the small side for sure but made well. Snuffers have a variety of sizes and do everything I ask of them and have made differences on a couple of marginal hits I have had.
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I just want to if anyone has needed a one piece broadhead on north american game. I have not seen the regular WW fall apart.
I've killed at least a couple dozen Iowa whitetails with em, never seen one fail in the least. Awesome head.
I will buy the elites if they make them with the original cutting diameter and at 200 grains.
It' would be nice to not mess with bh adapters anymore!
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I have some of the first woodsmans and have heard that the later runs were even better. Great head. No need in changing I guess. I have a good variety of BHs but that's because of different bows and shafts. I suppose in the end most any sharpen piece of quality steel will get the job done.
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Bear Heart,
I've been involved in the Woodsman Elite project from almost the inception so I think I have a little insight here. It never came around because there was something wrong with the original design. On the contrarary, the design is excellent and has a proven track record besides the fact that 3R and Magnus have worked really hard to improve the grind and alignments to make them an even better head. But even at that there are still some limitations to what can be done with that technology. Archers such as myself and others for years have wanted to find a way to make the woodsman into heavier heads and a way to eliminate the adapters from screw in heads. If you remember way back, the first screw in woodsmans came with six loose adapters in the package that you had to glue them in yourself. So the originals have come along way over the years just by themselves and there is no plan to change or discontinue them. They are just too good unto themselves and as their track record shows.
The goal with the elites was to come out with something different that this type of technology would provide. Different weights, better out of the package edge and solid screw ins to eliminate the adapters. Options that were not available with the originals. Plan is to offer other options in the future, just had to start somewhere and it will take some time to get there. dino
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Thanks Dino. I Look forward to other weights in the future!
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Personally, I like the glue in insert. To date I have not seen a solid ferrule broadhead that will spin true 12 out of 12.
It's a simple matter to tune them if the inserts are glued with hot melt.. Once they use epoxy they are about like solid ferrules.
I will admit I haven't tried them all, far from it.
I am guess the elites are made with the MIM process, and I would say the odds are good with that technology to go 12 on 12.
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good point Earl. I often use steel adapters of various weights with different size snuffies and woodsman heads to get different weight combos. No different than the razorcap system when you think about it.
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I've run out of the older WW heads... but have some of the newer ones on order and will be sending one through a bull elk come September.
So I'll let you know after that!
ak.
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Al :thumbsup: :thumbsup: