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Title: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Barry Wensel on October 29, 2009, 01:07:00 PM
Time to fess up. As most of you know I can't remember missing since 1976 (ha). I just came home for a couple days to try to clear my head and get some solid sleep. That and the fact it's pouring out with winds to 30 MPH. For those who haven't heard, Wednesday evening I missed a monster. No excuses. Last April Biggie Hoffman drove out and helped Gene and I hang some new stands for this fall. It was a new area we'd never sat before and we named it "Side Saddle". It's set up for south, SE or SW winds. I actually got into it rather late about 3 PM with winds 15 MPH out of the SE. The winds kept swirling but I thought I'd give it a chance to settle down. I hadn't seen a deer yet, didn't hear any snorts but didn't like the inconsistency. At 4:50 the wind was now steadily out of the NW (180 degree shift). I had another stand 250-300 yards away at the top of the ridge and still had a couple hours of light, so I decided to move up there assuming the winds would be more stable at the higher elevation. I took the camera arm down and had the camera in my hand. You know how when you're leaving a stand prematurely you always are glancing around just to make sure something isn't coming? Well, I look over my shoulder and see him walking the creek bank at 50 yds. Gulp! I hand held the camera and filmed him for maybe 30 seconds when he came up over the creek bank and starts for me. I continued to film him a little more in the brush. Got him shaking like a dog after a swim although the creek only has 6" of water in it. Then, here he comes. I actually said into the mic, "Sorry.. gotta go guys". ha. Then I almost lost it when I couldn't get the camera into my back pack while trying not to turn my back on him. I came close to throwing the thing and finally hooked it onto a small twig and it held. GThen I grabbed my bow from the hook. Now he's about 25 yards but a frontal angle and still in the brush. Then he steps out and makes a scrape still only giving me the frontal angle. If he turns to his left he'll walk by the pinch at 12 yds., but he turns right. Then it hits me the wind is going absolutely right to him. You'd have to see the set up to fully understand but I'm on a pinch point that's a header of a little, dry tributary running down to the main creek (6" of water max). So now he's walking away but still screened by brush. He's too close to wheeze but I have no shot. I considered letting him walk off about 50-60 yards and then wheezing to bring him back (by the way, the day before, Gene had a 150 incher walk by at 65 yards. He wheezed once, the buck stopped and then continued away. He wheezed a second time and it turned on a dime and walked right in. In fact, he filmed it all including the buck standing right under the stand, actually filming through the grill of the platform.) But in my situation if I let him walk off and wheezed he'd start looking/sniffing and would absolutely bust me because he was straight downwind. So now he walks over to another scrape that's the size of the bathtub at the honeymoon suite at the Hilton. He's standing broadside with his head up doing the overhead branch thing. I decide to take the shot while he's still relaxed. Then I notice a single, straight hardwood limb about an inch or less in diameter running perfectly horizontal right down the center of his body. That, plus the fact he's dead downwind was what mentally got me. If I aimed below the limb it appeared a little too low so I tried shooting above it. Obviously, I over compensated and the shaft flew right over his lungs and missed him clean. When he peeled out he looked like a really fat guy trying to run. He's absolutely huge. He ran across the creek and up on the ridge and then the bad news... started snorting. He never saw me but ended up obviously smelling me. You guys will hopefully all get to see him someday because I'm sure we'll use the short footage in our next video production, but I think he's a 200 inch buck. He has eight points on his left antler and looks like six on his right. BOTH of his G2s are clustered into three long points each, and in fact his left G2 has a cluster of three plus an additonal sticker. Let me put it this way, a robin could build a birds nest in either of his G2s. He has great mass and long mainbeams and his body looks like a brahma bull. I absolutely know he'll field dress well over 250 lbs. When I watched that arrow fly over his lungs I felt like hurling, therefore, we named him Hurly. Because he was spooked from that stand I figured my only chance to get him there would be if he happened to run a hot doe by next week with his mind on her rather than the incident. So late yesterday morning I quietly slipped in there and scouted it more thoroughly. I found a string of seven of his scrapes between what I know are two bedding areas. You'd have to see the terrain to fully understand but there's a series of little dry tributaries coming in from different angles and I feel confident I have his travel pattern down now. The only thing I'm concerned about is unstable winds. I found the perfect positioned tree about 75 yards from the original. It was a bugger to hang but Gene and I went in yesterday at mid-day, quietly hung the new stand and got out. Oh yeah, we also hid three trail cameras on his seven scrapes so hopefully we'll get a photo or three. This rain should help wash out our scent and hopefully the front will push on through by the weekend and I'll resume my hunt. Stay tuned! Best of luck to all... including myself. BW
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Littlefeather on October 29, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
You musta forgot to wear your cape.  :goldtooth:  

Hate to hear about the miss. Wish I could say that it had been so long since I missed. CK
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: ron w on October 29, 2009, 01:17:00 PM
The saga continues.......
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: KentuckyTJ on October 29, 2009, 01:20:00 PM
Not your fault Barry, It's Biggie's for putting the stand in the wrong tree. Hopefully you will get another chance at him soon.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Irish Archer on October 29, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
Good luck later.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: centaur on October 29, 2009, 01:25:00 PM
Boy, I'm sure glad I never miss. Well, I have just once or twice.
Somehow, I have a feeling that buck's days are numbered.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Jack Denbow on October 29, 2009, 01:27:00 PM
Barry that sounds like my story but I ain't talking, I'm not going to fess up, and I ain't telling.
Jack
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Ron Roehrick on October 29, 2009, 01:28:00 PM
Barry, thanks for sharing, the chase thats what its all about.good luck on your quest and I wouldnt want to be that buck with the Wensels after me... Ron.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Gatekeeper on October 29, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
Thanks for the story, Barry. I’m looking forward to the hero pictures. Good luck!

 
Quote
Originally posted by Barry Wensel:
When I watched that arrow fly over his lungs I felt like hurling, therefore, we named him Hurly.
:biglaugh:  I love the name!   :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Tom Leemans on October 29, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
Slowly I turned, step by step, inch by inch... Ding! popcorn is ready! Can't wait to see trailcam pics.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: swp on October 29, 2009, 01:45:00 PM
1976? I thought you missed a bear this spring or were you just talking strictly deer? Anyway good luck with him!
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: SlowBowke on October 29, 2009, 01:46:00 PM
Sounds like a H of a great time to me. Especially comparing to what I've NOT seen in the past two weeks. LOL

Good to hear from you, Barry. I've no doubt that buck is in trouble in the next few weeks.

God Bless and HI to you both. Haven't had the pleasure since WAY back at the PBS Banquet in CO. in 86?? hmmm, something like that. I was just one of the hoards yakking with you.

Steve
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Mudd on October 29, 2009, 01:47:00 PM
Thanks for the telling of a great adventure. It helps OF's like me to know that even the "masters" can miss. I know that under normal situations you and "bro" actually hit more often than miss which is the exact opposite of my shooting..lol
Best of luck to you.
Good hunting and God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: robtattoo on October 29, 2009, 01:53:00 PM
Bet Gene get's him......  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: NorthernCaliforniaHunter on October 29, 2009, 02:03:00 PM
But I thought them single bevel broadheads would slice right through a one inch branch and still have enough poop for a set of lungs!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Reggie Catfish on October 29, 2009, 02:07:00 PM
This is the kind of stuff that keeps a rookie like me up at night!  (that & the primal dreams video)

Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: T Folts on October 29, 2009, 02:11:00 PM
Thanks for the story Barry, we all know you will get him..
T  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: bowbert on October 29, 2009, 02:11:00 PM
Hang in there Barry, you'll get the hang of it...
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Ryan Rothhaar on October 29, 2009, 02:11:00 PM
You don't want the season to end before November anyhow do you?...HA
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on October 29, 2009, 02:41:00 PM
I TOLD Barry it needed to be 10 yards further down the hill but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.....he wouldn't listen.

Really though guys, would any of YOU argue with Barry on stand placement????
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Drew on October 29, 2009, 02:50:00 PM
you didn't miss, it just wasn't his time...
can't wait to see the pics.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: JohnV on October 29, 2009, 03:01:00 PM
Gene called a short while ago and said that he convinced you to head home because of the rain and wind and after he dropped you off at your place he immediately turned around to head back and plans to spend the rest of the day sitting in your stand.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: AMB on October 29, 2009, 03:04:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JohnV:
Gene called a short while ago and said that he convinced you to head home because of the rain and wind and after he dropped you off at your place he immediately turned around to head back and plans to spend the rest of the day sitting in your stand.
That is freakin' funny!
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: b.glass on October 29, 2009, 03:48:00 PM
Even your not so sucess stories are great! Thanks for telling it to us.

Bona
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Bob Morrison on October 29, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
It just had to be the bow....  :goldtooth:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: John3 on October 29, 2009, 03:55:00 PM
If possible could you post us a pic or clip of this buck?  Would love to see him on the hoof.

Missing is part of this... A no fun part but it just gets better when you make it happen. Stay after them.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Altiman94 on October 29, 2009, 04:07:00 PM
200" buck is crazy huge...I would be crushed.  He's still out there, so the fun in the chase can continue!
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: bohuntr on October 29, 2009, 04:08:00 PM
Thanks for sharing that Barry, what a story!!! I had been feeling bad about missing a "little" 160 class buck last week and now I don't feel so bad.   :bigsmyl:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: meathead on October 29, 2009, 04:34:00 PM
Barry that isn't a miss, that is just called a warning shot.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Gary Logsdon on October 29, 2009, 04:42:00 PM
I just called Gene's cell and he answered with a whisper . . . something about being in Barry's stand.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Scrub_buck on October 29, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
Good Luck!  Say your prayers and you might get a chance at him again!
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Mr.Vic on October 29, 2009, 05:40:00 PM
{Shooting over deer means you are not in control of the aiming and shot process.....the deer is, and so are your emotions. If a deer is within ten or fifteen yards, you should see nothing but the hairs behind the leg....and your eyes shouldn't leave that spot until the arrow appears there.} where did i hear that before??   ummmm,  Nice to see even the pro's have a few problems. Have no doubt you get him. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Charlie Lamb on October 29, 2009, 06:03:00 PM
Barry... don't think of it as a miss. Think of it as a major screw up!!!
 :D
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: jonsimoneau on October 29, 2009, 06:23:00 PM
Barry, a 200 incher? Holy crap.     Trying to shoot over or under something can really throw a guy off. And nobody could question your stand placement abilities or your shooting abilities.  You're gonna get him for sure. Think of it this way.  He's out there thinking...man...I just barely made it out alive a wensel encounter.  He's shaking in his hooves now. And just think...it's not even November yet!
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Bob Macioch on October 29, 2009, 06:52:00 PM
Thanks for sharing...sorry you missed him


Best
Bob
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: oneshot-onekill on October 29, 2009, 07:06:00 PM
Just think Barry, he went back to the bedding area bragging to all the ladies about being missed by a wensel.....good luck in your quest!
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: pitbull on October 29, 2009, 07:16:00 PM
Why does it seem to only happen on the big bucks?  :banghead:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Gary Logsdon on October 29, 2009, 07:24:00 PM
How could you miss something THAT BIG???
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: GingivitisKahn on October 29, 2009, 07:39:00 PM
Great stuff.  Sorry you missed but you have to know it makes the rest of us mere mortals feel just a little better when we commit a forest faux pas.

Can't wait for your next video!
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: overbo on October 29, 2009, 07:46:00 PM
My money is on the good looking brother to kill it.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: pseman on October 29, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
200 inches!! That deer would've had no problem smelling me. That is when I pooped my pants right after the first time I saw him.  :scared:  

I hate that you missed, but probably not as much as you hate it.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Bonebuster on October 29, 2009, 08:38:00 PM
Cool story. I could see the whole thing in my mind...even the arrow spinning harmlessly too high.

You guys get some really awesome footage of whitetails. You can`t call it anything less than a success, even if all you got was him on film!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Barry Wensel on October 29, 2009, 08:42:00 PM
Thanks for all the words of encouragement. I absolutely missed. I've always said "if you shoot over him you missed, whereas if you shoot under him your arrow didn't even get there." You can quote me on that one. I'm glad everyone seemed to enjoy the tale. We've had a dozen trail cameras out since mid-July, like 24/7 and never got a single photo of this guy before. It just goes to show everyone you never know what you might have right behind the barn. That thought alone hopefully will keep you in the stand a little longer thinking of the possibilities, knowing it could happen at any time. Keep that dream alive. Best of luck guys. bw
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Mr.Vic on October 29, 2009, 09:35:00 PM
Did ya save a trail camera for brother Gene's yard? At 7pm one came out of his yard in front of us on the road and Greywolf tried to hit it...ur  i mean miss it with her truck. Darn women is a hunter.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Guru on October 29, 2009, 09:43:00 PM
Best of luck Uncle B    :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:    :pray:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Steve Leffler on October 29, 2009, 10:20:00 PM
Great story Barry.  He doesn't realize how luky he was.....
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Hud on October 29, 2009, 10:42:00 PM
Great fun, you managed to extended your season and he'll be around during the rut. My money is Barry.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: kennym on October 29, 2009, 10:58:00 PM
Hey Barry, I shot under a nice one last Christmas day for a couple reasons. One was being asleep(really).  Told my bro I had all the fun without the work!!

Maybe a bigger one is in the cards for ya! Stay with em!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Robert Honaker on October 29, 2009, 11:32:00 PM
Post a pic if you catch him on the trail cam.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: DELTA on October 30, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
Hay Barry, has the rut started overthere yet?You dont usually see the big ones till the rut on. Sorry about your miss,  :banghead:  I hope he didnt leave the country.  :pray:  GOOD LUCK.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Dave Bulla on October 30, 2009, 03:29:00 AM
Wow!

That's gotta suck!   :banghead:    :rolleyes:

Any chance of editing a frame out of the video to give us an idea of just what exactly he looks like?
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Bobby Urban on October 30, 2009, 07:28:00 AM
In that situation I would try to hit the limb, aim right for it.  I know I would miss every time and whola, "Dead Buck"!  Seems when I am stumping and I shoot for a branch, sapling, ect.. 99% of the time I get real close but just miss - in this situation I would probably center punch it, just my luck.  
Good luck on this one - Bob Urban
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: matthewp on October 30, 2009, 08:35:00 AM
Barry,
   I am glad you lead by example.  I missed a nice buck last night at 7 yards.  He was not 200", but he was a nice buck.  I dont feel so bad now.  
   Good luck on your quest, we know you will get him.
     Matt
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Bow man on October 30, 2009, 09:55:00 AM
Barry Hope you get another crack at him. Thanks for sharing the story
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: on October 30, 2009, 09:55:00 AM
Go get him, Barry!

Bisch
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: MnFn on October 30, 2009, 10:20:00 AM
Thanks for sharing your story. I don't know how you guys manage to video bucks and get shots  as well. I am challenged with just the bare minimum of stuff when I am in my treestand; I usually end up dropping something..
Gary
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Grant Young on October 30, 2009, 11:24:00 AM
:banghead:  Tough break U.B. It is a little early for you but 200" is awfully bbbbbbig. He'll be back. You got his number (and now you know the range).               Grant
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Bear on October 30, 2009, 12:21:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Littlefeather:
You musta forgot to wear your cape.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: twitchstick on October 30, 2009, 12:42:00 PM
Thank you for sharing a great story. Good luck with getting another shoot. I always blame it on all the small earthquakes we get around here. They say we get up to 200 a day.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: katie on October 30, 2009, 09:04:00 PM
I am sure that by the end of season we will all see a pic of big old "hurley".  His tounge will be hanging out, and Barry will be sitting next to him with a big old smile!  Best of luck!
Katie
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: robtattoo on October 30, 2009, 09:31:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Bear:
Don't you know,

When Bary Wensel takes a shower he doesnt get wet, the water gets Barry Wenseled.

When Barry Wensel looks in the mirror nothing appears. Because there could never be another Barry Wensel.

And of course... Superman wears Barry Wensel pajamas to bed!!

OK, I'm done.    :p      :p      :thumbsup:  
He he he!
Barry Wensel doesn't have a chin under his beard, just another fist.

Barry doesn't read books, he just stares them down until he gets the information he requires.

Barry doesn't sleep, he just lays in wait.

If you have five dollars and Barry has five dollars, Barry has more money than you.

Barry once ate a whole cake before his friends could tell him there was a stripper in it

Barry doesn't actually write books, the words assemble themselves out of fear.

Barry once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King, and got one.

Do you know why Baskin Robbins only has 31 flavors? Because Barry doesn't like Fudge Ripple

Should I go on?
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: limbow on October 30, 2009, 10:23:00 PM
You guys are hilarious!
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: PAPA BEAR on October 31, 2009, 01:11:00 AM
barry bashin....   :D    "[dntthnk]"    :D
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Frisky on October 31, 2009, 03:10:00 AM
I sure hope you get another chance. I think you will.

Joe
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: northener on October 31, 2009, 06:45:00 AM
I always look around before climbing down as well.
 It kinda reminds me how I felt as a kid, when about to do something you were told NOT TO DO! You can just feel those eyes burning a whole in your backside.


 Good luck before firearm season.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Randy Morin on October 31, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
The same exact thing happened to me once!!!I swear.  Only difference was it was a 120 lb basket rack 8.  Basically the same thing though.LOL.

Go get-em Barry and thanks for the story.   :wavey:    :thumbsup:    :notworthy:
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Steve H. on October 31, 2009, 11:53:00 AM
It would also be nice to be able to leap into your treestand from the forest floor and not have to use steps like Barry can!  I always wondered was it the cape or the super-human qualities?
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: frassettor on October 31, 2009, 12:29:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by robtattoo:
 
Quote
Originally posted by Bear:
Don't you know,

When Bary Wensel takes a shower he doesnt get wet, the water gets Barry Wenseled.

When Barry Wensel looks in the mirror nothing appears. Because there could never be another Barry Wensel.

And of course... Superman wears Barry Wensel pajamas to bed!!

OK, I'm done.     :p        :p        :thumbsup:  
He he he!
Barry Wensel doesn't have a chin under his beard, just another fist.

Barry doesn't read books, he just stares them down until he gets the information he requires.

Barry doesn't sleep, he just lays in wait.

If you have five dollars and Barry has five dollars, Barry has more money than you.

Barry once ate a whole cake before his friends could tell him there was a stripper in it

Barry doesn't actually write books, the words assemble themselves out of fear.

Barry once ordered a Big Mac at Burger King, and got one.

Do you know why Baskin Robbins only has 31 flavors? Because Barry doesn't like Fudge Ripple

Should I go on? [/b]
:biglaugh:    :D
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Barry Wensel on October 31, 2009, 05:24:00 PM
You guys can have your fun... but be it known this super-hero will be putting on his camo cape and flying out of here in about fifteen minutes to renew my quest for Hurly... or maybe even another little surprise that will set back the bowhunting world somewhat. Wish you all could join me. Talk to you all in a week or three. Best of luck guys and gals... I'm outta here! BW
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Guru on October 31, 2009, 05:39:00 PM
:pray:   for ya
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: wingnut on October 31, 2009, 05:43:00 PM
Heck Barry that must be one heck of a cape.  I've met you and guys our size just don't get off the ground with any camo cape.  Takes one with say 30000 sq ft of lift.

Good luck, we are all rooting for you.

Mike
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Steve H. on October 31, 2009, 06:50:00 PM
"...or maybe even another little surprise that will set back the bowhunting world somewhat"

Anybody else curious and guessing?  BTW it is 11 degrees in Moose Pass, Alaska today and I had fun changing to studded tires, one at a time....living vicariously thru you WT guys right now...
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: highcountry on November 01, 2009, 10:41:00 AM
I got an idea! Put your brother in a doe costume, maybe one left over from Halloween. Have him waggle his tail a bit and wait for that big boy to come a-running(not your brother).
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Biggie Hoffman on November 01, 2009, 01:53:00 PM
How come there's not a bow in this picture?????
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: highcountry on November 01, 2009, 04:36:00 PM
He cheated, used a thunder stick.
Title: Re: Uncle Barry missed a monster
Post by: Autumnarcher on November 01, 2009, 08:07:00 PM
I think I would have tried to hit  the stick. Because chance are, I'd miss the stick, by just an eyelash, and get the the buck as a bonus.

But, the good thing is, if you do hit the stick, you have an automatic excuse.