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Title: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Arkansaslongbow on February 16, 2010, 06:36:00 AM
This is NOT a south bash north topic but why can't someone come up with a traditional show down here in the south? I would love to attend a trad show like the one in Kazoo but it is just too far to drive;

So will someone PLEASE get all the bowyers and traditional guru's and put on a "kazoo" show down south? please.....  :campfire:
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Bow man on February 16, 2010, 06:46:00 AM
Get is set up and we would love to come down for it.
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: sweet old bill on February 16, 2010, 06:47:00 AM
so they can be snowed out...or travel is so bad you can not get there...ask the guys that wanted to trave to the PA show lst week ( 20 inches 0f snow )
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: sweet old bill on February 16, 2010, 06:49:00 AM
the Kazoo trad show Move it to Myrtle beach SC
in Feb..lots of hotel room open here. Only two snow days so far...3 to 5 inchs last sunday morning
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Mountainboy on February 16, 2010, 07:27:00 AM
I'd go for that!
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: xtrema312 on February 16, 2010, 07:29:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by sweet old bill:
the Kazoo trad show Move it to Myrtle beach SC
in Feb..lots of hotel room open here. Only two snow days so far...3 to 5 inchs last sunday morning
Them is fightin words.  :smileystooges:
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: wingnut on February 16, 2010, 07:35:00 AM
Don't have too move it, just do one like it closer too home.  We just can't justify the gamble on the weather and roads in January.

Of course we've had our share of white and slippery around here too.

Mike
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: rastaman on February 16, 2010, 07:37:00 AM
PBS Nashville, Tennessee  March 2010.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: The Whittler on February 16, 2010, 09:46:00 AM
why does it have to be in the winter???
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on February 16, 2010, 09:57:00 AM
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've always wondered the same???

Rastaman - Where can we find info on the PBS show. Is there a website with show info?
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Junglecat on February 16, 2010, 10:03:00 AM
I just joined PBS last week.I am also attending the banquet on March 26th,27th,and 28th in Nashville.I went to Kalamazoo and it was a great event as well.
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: elk nailer on February 16, 2010, 10:03:00 AM
make it Charleston and ill come down.
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Junglecat on February 16, 2010, 10:05:00 AM
Sorry but I left the link off in the previous post.

 http://www.probowsociety.org/
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: KentuckyTJ on February 16, 2010, 10:09:00 AM
Thanks I see it now its under the PBS gatherings link at top.

 http://www.probowsociety.org/2010.html
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: COLongbow on February 16, 2010, 11:06:00 AM
Speaking of...how 'bout a trad show out west? Preferably in Denver. I would give almost anything to be able to shoot a bunch of the cool bows I keep hearing about and seeing pics of on this site. Anybody know about any shows out here?
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Caleb the bow breaker on February 16, 2010, 12:00:00 PM
I second that on an expo in Denver.  Only 4 hours from my house I could totally make that one. Pleeeaaasssseeee!!!!!

Caleb
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Chris Shelton on February 16, 2010, 12:23:00 PM
Denver is too far west, make it directly in the middle of the country, kansas?  Tennesse is great for me, but not so great for everyone else, lol.  I think the companies would do better if it was in August too!  I always wondered why kzoo was in kzoo, lol. That is kinda in a weird place.  But I am not the chooser of chosen expos.  I think the best way for the companys to make money and for people to be happy is for the kzoo show to be a tour.  Have a stop in PA, SC, TX, WA, CO, and back to kzoo???
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Covey on February 16, 2010, 12:33:00 PM
If you start one they will come! Jason
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Dave Pagel on February 16, 2010, 12:35:00 PM
You have to remember Great Northern put the Trad Expo together.  They started close to their shop in a town called Hastings and outgrew that quickly.  Kalamzoo is about the biggest town in their ara and the fairgrounds is big enough to handle it, barely.

Outside of Kalamazoo, I think population density has a lot to do with the other shoots being around here, i.e  Comptons, GLLI.  Michigan is one of the top states in the country in license sales, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois and even Iowa or Wisconsin are all in a relatively short drive, Pennsylvania a little further.  People can also fly into Chicago or Detroit.

I have always said we are pretting spoiled here in Michigan.  We get Kalamazoo, Comptons and GLLI right in our state and the Michigan Traditional Rendezvous is typically the week after Comptons in Grayling at Fred Bears old club.  Not bad!

Dave
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Jerry Wald on February 16, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
I hate to argue Barry but they are ALL DOWN SOUTH     :bigsmyl:  

Depends where you live.

I think we should lobby for a TRADE A HUNT - between our countries - permits could be ever two years or something.

I can't take someone here that isn't a canadian citizen and that sucks...ONLY OUTFITTERS can...well what is so special about them..THEY TRADE HUNTS.

Jer
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Bill Turner on February 16, 2010, 12:39:00 PM
I believe population density is the reason most of these shows are in the north. More people, more money being spent. If your looking for a great hunting oriented area to hold a show, with great indoor facilities, as well as a location with drawing power, Dallas/Ft. Worth has a lot to offer. PBS was in San Antonio a few years back.  Dallas/Ft. Worth is a lot easier to get to than San Antonio. The Dallas Safari Club has been doing quite well here for years. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Arkansaslongbow on February 16, 2010, 01:50:00 PM
O.K. good post everyone but one more question;

Who do I contact on getiing information to set one up? I know it will take a year to plan but I trully want to see a show like Kzoo come to the south; it has to start somewhere and why not me?

Thanks ahead for any information.....  :campfire:
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: the force on February 16, 2010, 01:56:00 PM
How bout louivile kentucky were they have the indoor national bow shoot they have a really big place were we shoot and have it may or june instead of january or febuary
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: gregg dudley on February 16, 2010, 05:38:00 PM
There are more like-minded people living in closer proximity in the NE than there are in other parts of the country. Figure in population density, proximity to air and ground transportation, history of participation, minimal vendor travel (a lot of bowyers and archery suppliers are in the NE and midwest)and you can see why the traditional NE shoots continue to be successful.

There is an inverse relationship between vendor participation and shooter participation that is kind of chicken and egg in nature.  It takes shooters to attract vendors, but a lot of shooters don't want to travel if there aren't going to be significant numbers of vendors. Add rising fuel costs and you get a real catch 22 scenario.

Hats off to anyone who tries to start a big shoot in the SE.  I would really like to see you be successful with it.  I plan to hit some of the bigger shoots in the next year or two to see how we can improve what we do with our state championship shoot.
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Michael Arnette on February 16, 2010, 07:11:00 PM
Who wants to be in michigan this time of year anyways? Brrrrr!
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Tyke on February 16, 2010, 07:28:00 PM
I would think somewhere close to Atlanta might work.  Close (relatively) to population centers in the south and easy to travel to.  Plenty of hotel space etc.

I'm spoiled having Denton Hill about 2 hours from here, plus my camp is only about 30-40 minutes from there.  Unfortunately, it falls on a bad weekend for me, the same weekend we do our family re-union every year.  I'm going to try to make it up on Friday this year though.

If someone does set one up in the south, I would think early spring - sometime in March maybe - would be good.  Not too hot yet there, and us northern guys are good and ready to get out of the cold by then.
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: owlbait on February 16, 2010, 07:37:00 PM
Kazoo is a great mid-winter break for us Northern boys. South doesn't typically have the winter doldrums, and in fact may still be hunting. It would be hard to start-up and compete against some of the established events so I would think to try a time that would be unique to your area. I'll bet you might even find some help from vendors and event managers that would help you. I know Compton's has talked about moving the Rendevous to other sites and I agree that would be a great idea. A summer event I would travel to, but like you, I don't care how nice the weather is South, I'm not going that far during the Winter.
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: Overspined on February 16, 2010, 11:05:00 PM
we have a TON more hunters!
Title: Re: Why are the "good" shows always up north?
Post by: pdk25 on February 16, 2010, 11:12:00 PM
Only speaking for myself, of course, but I would be far more willing to make a long drive for an event If I could be relatively certain that the weather would be better and you would have lots of opportunities to shoot outside.  I couldn't justify driving all the way to Michigan if there wasn't a shoot associated with it.  Obviously it must be a great event, since others make the drive.  Just not for me.