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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: toppredator on August 31, 2010, 11:59:00 AM
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I was just wondering how you guys felt about those activated carbon hunting clothes. I've used them along with a fairly strict scent control regimine for a couple of years now with so-so results. I've had deer upwind act calm and deer downwind turn themselves inside out trying to get away(just like when I wore regular hunting clothes).
I was just curious what kind of results any of you have had or if you beleive using these garments takes anything away from the hunt. I'm not trying to sway anyones opinion one way or another just wondering how you fellas felt.
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If you google it you will find that they actually lost a lawsuit because the stuff does not do what they advertise. It is impossible to recharge it without extreme heat that would actually ruin the rest of the fabric. Basically its a very expensive gimmick, but I have no problem with other people buying it and not paying attention to the wind, maybe they will push the deer to me. LOL.
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Yeah, but if you google Scent Blocker® Robinson Outdoor Products court case you'll find that they won their case. It was found that reactivation could be attained with their products and that the products did eliminate scent emination.
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I got ScentLok jacket and hat from Cabelas on sale a few years ago, not so much for the scent blocking aspects of it, but because it seemed like a good price for what seemed like quality clothes. My personal observations are that the jacket and hat weigh more than they should for the amount of insulation against the cold provided. My assumption is that the activated carbon adds weight without adding any insulation. Maybe it even reduces the effective insulation, I don't know, but I've always had a hard time staying warm in that jacket.
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this might fit neatly into Asbell's article. It may work, it may not, but you don't need it. Learn to use the wind.
ChuckC
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What ChuckC said.
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Originally posted by ChuckC:
Learn to use the wind.
ChuckC
How do you do that when hunting urban deer in a subdivision on a 1 acre or less parcel. The deer have a set path of travel from neighbor to neighbor. There might be only one tree to hang a stand in.
Using the wind is not an option. :confused:
Some of us have learned to use the wind years upon years ago. Sometimes you need a little more help in your arsenal, even if it is only a little.
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I have to agree with VA Bowbender, sometimes use the wind is not possible.
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If deer are living in one-acre suburban back yards, they're used to human scent, and it isn't going to spook them much. Where they going to go without running into more human scent?
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The amount of scent coming out of your mouth from breathing makes this a mute point.
Play the wind and I agree with Orion on the small woodlot theory.
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Originally posted by NBK:
The amount of scent coming out of your mouth from breathing makes this a mute point.
Play the wind and I agree with Orion on the small woodlot theory.
I'm with these guys. Scentlock is just an expensive gimick.
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I tried one for awhile, after about 5 uses the thing stank like sweat and the only way to get it out was ti wash it like regular clothers, Military chem suits are the same way.
wool stays scent free and is easy to air out overnight, no laundry, no dryer, no residual smell.
IMHO it is a mute point as you have to breath anyway.
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Every year we do this thread and it's always the same!! I've used military chemical suits with great results. You really have to make it a religion though and I think that the guys who have had poor results with this stuff aren't "going all the way." That said I'd rather play the wind any day. Unfortunately here in the foot hills of the Rocky Mountains the wind swirls all the time so scent reduction can pay big dividends.
the chef
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Originally posted by calgarychef:
Every year we do this thread and it's always the same!!
Yeah you're right. Thre are those that do and those that don't think it's worth using and never the twain will meet.
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I have a scent lok suit that i bought about 6 years ago.It seems to work good but i still hunt with the wind in my face. :thumbsup:
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In spite of people's criticism of this product, I believe it has helped me get close to deer. People can rant and rave all they want, but I have never been "busted" since I started wearing carbon type clothing. I use to get busted on a frequent basis, the clothing has helped me stop this.
If you don't like it, do not buy it.
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I hunt with scentlok clothing. But I still stay downwind as much as possible. Ken
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I have the Safari series pants & shirt, Base Slayer, my rain jacket & pants has it.
Got all of that for Christmas 7 years ago because my wife heard about the stuff & Gander mountain here in town was running a sale.
It's nice camo but that's all I really use it for & the rain jacket & pants really does keep my butt pretty dry & realtively warm down to mid 30's.
Never really fell for the hype of the scent control they said their cloths did & still try to work the wind.
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The article on scent-lok is in the August issue of Field & Stream, talk about getting busted.
I have carbon hunting cloths and the way I rejuvenate them and any other hunting garment including my boots is with an ozone generator. I put everything in a plastic bag and and use a rubber band to seal it tight to the machine. It kills everything, and I mean everything, only takes about an hour.
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my friend and i had a long talke with a chemist about these carbon suits this is the main point he told us, once the carbon is filled with scent it is locked in heat is the only way to "unlock" it problem is it takes way way more heat than a dryer so much heat the clothes would burn long before the carbon would "let go" of the capture scent. So after a few usses it just becomes camo clothing
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Originally posted by bowmaster12:
my friend and i had a long talke with a chemist about these carbon suits this is the main point he told us, once the carbon is filled with scent it is locked in heat is the only way to "unlock" it problem is it takes way way more heat than a dryer so much heat the clothes would burn long before the carbon would "let go" of the capture scent. So after a few usses it just becomes camo clothing
Actually it becomes camo loaded with scent! My experience with it is it worked great for a few hunts but after it got loaded with scent it was worse than wearing regular camo.
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Thanks for all the replies. I didn't catch the Field & Stream article. The ozone generator idea sounds pretty interesting.
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I have always just hunted the wind, not because I don't think the clothes work, but due to the cost of them. It would be pretty hard to fool the nose of a deer. I use rubber boots, air out my clothes, wash with scent elimination soaps (clothes and myself), spray with scent elimination products and make sure to wipe my feet alot on the grass or dirt in the area i will be hunting as soon as I leave my truck. I carry my clothes to the area I will hunt and put them on after I get out of my truck.
I do alot to keep scent down. Year before last my sons black and tan coon dog tracked me to my tree. A deer would have as good of a nose and maybe a better nose than a dog.
Point is, do all you can and then hunt the wind, you can't fool them. Your best bet is to outsmart them.
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Ive known people who swear by it but for my experience I already have deer as close as rubbing antlers on my ladder stands using my current methods, cant really improve on that. Expensive stuff that you can really do without IMO but if it gives you confidence...
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I have 6 or 7 suits and keep them sealed in a rubbermaid or scent tote bag. I think it works. At the very least, it's not going to hurt. Can a baseball player or a golfer hit a ball without a glove? But, can they hit the ball "better" with a glove?
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Hey man, I heard that if you buy this new super recurve, that you'll never miss a deer again!
Gonna be funny the legal battle, when somebody shoots 49 deer in a row, and then has a miss.
Wonder how much they can sue for?
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FWIW I got some Scentlok on sale back in '99. Dunno if it works or not, used it, still do, but pay attention to the wind and other.
It hasn't faded or fallen apart, so even if the stuff doesn't work, it's still good camo, and has actually saved me $ by lasting so long.
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a waste of money in my opinion. have never seen a need in it, I along with alot of others have killed a boat load of critters with out any of that.
but if you feel you need it for some reason buy it, it could be a confidence builder for ya.
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Know matter if they work or not if you don't take extra precaution to be as scent free as posible it's useless.I'm a scent freak.Scent free wash for my clothes,scent free shower before i go in the woods,store close in sealed container,spray down before getting on stand just to metion some things i do.I'll tell you 1 of my secrets to getting close.(ESCENCE OF FALL)cover scent .Have been using it for over 10 years .Had deer downwind at 10 yards and didn't get busted.Was hunting on a 8 foot tripod.Thats when i was convinced i was onto something.
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I shared a bear hunt with a guy that worked for them for several years. He stated to me that it works well for the first few times you use it. But you have to heat the suit up to over 1000degrees to re-activate the carbon to get it to release the scent that it has stored up.... My dryer don't get up to 1000degrees. He said it was worthless and the makers know it...
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As far as scent lock expensive clothing,I would eat 4 bead burritos and wait 8 hrs and put them on and sit outside.When the rumbling comes see if you smell it.
I have used the Military NBC( nuclear biological and chemical ) suits for years and they work.They are cheap at a military surplus.
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Stay as scent free as possible and hunt on the downwind side as much as possible and you will be fine, in most cases.
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scentloc is just a sales pitch.if an animal smells you it dont matter what you are wearing its game over.all you can do is be as scent free as you can with sprays etc and play the wind game.the best thing i have found for elk where i hunt is to spray down good then i pull some greens off a juniper and rub it all over my clothes,arms,face,neck etc.still doesnt block it all though.
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Well said Papa Bear
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I stop bathing in July and come October I pee on my legs and rub my head on any cypress tree I can find.
That's how I beat the wind...
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I have a scent blocker undergarment kind of like long underware and also a scent lock suit. I use both in conjunction on cold days but usually in early season just the scent blocker under garments, And i also believe if you go all the way it is very succesfull! Im talking about washing all you clothes in scent free soap underware socks t shirts everything you plan on wearing wash it, use a scent free soap and also deoderant, I play the wind but i have had deer come to me from down wind so I would say yes it works!
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All you guys that air out your clothes, look up Ozone, it's in the air all the time. Sometimes there is a little more and sometimes a little less. It's one of natures ways of cleaning everything. If you hang up your regular clothes to dry after washing, smell them after they have dried, that great clean smell is Ozone.
All you guys with scent-lok clothes you can definitely rejuvenate them with an ozone generator as it doesn't release the odor but destroys it by carbonizing any odor, or germ.