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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Ryan Sanpei on September 12, 2010, 12:45:00 AM
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Well after bugging South 24/7, he finally broke down and built me a 56" recurve. I really want him to keep it in his line up. All that is needed are positive responses from the gang.
Would you or do you shoot a 56" 3 pc recurve?
I'll be posting pics along with informal data that compares both the 56" and 58" Stalker Recurve.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0784.jpg)
Rigged and ready to hunt!
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Riser Pics
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0783.jpg)
Riser woods
Gabon ebony & Cocobolo w/ maple and purple heart accent strips
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0781-1.jpg)
Closer shot
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0782-1.jpg)
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Nice!
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At my draw length, I couldn't shoot something that short but, it sure is a looker! Congrats on your new bow. :thumbsup: :clapper:
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A one piece 56" would be even nicer...
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I would and do shoot both a 56 onepiece and a three piece. Its a great size bow when built right and can handle a fairly long draw. That riser is really nice. I'd love to see that at a 28 in draw. God Bless and great looking bow. Steve
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I did some testing today with draw lengths and poundage from 25"-28". I'll post the results soon. So far the results mirror South's 58" model.
I'll post a pic at a 28" draw tomorrow.
Aloha Gang!
Ryan
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Cool!
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One thing you can be sure of, it will be QUALITY BUILT. South really builds a nice bow. I'm very happy with my Surge model at 58". I'll bet the design at 56" will still be a winner.
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My draw length of 25.5" accomodates a 56" bow. One of my bows is a Bear TD Supreme with A riser and #1 limbs--a 56" bow.
I considered haveing Schafer make me a silvertip in 56" (they've made 3-4 of them in the past). I decided on a 58" because of the Beth and Dave's recommendation that the sight window would be so tiny I might not like it.
However, the sight window on my Bear is only about 3.5 inches and it is fine.
Frankly, I've been ignoring these great Stalker posts because I don't want to be turned on to another custom -- I've gone off the deep end as it is. This 56" offering is VERY INTERESTING!
I have a Fox High Sierra and a Blacktail. The Stalker reminds me of some of the good features of bowh.
By the way, those two woods (coco and ebony) are favorites of mine. The silvertip I have on order I'm considering Charcoal Dymonwood and Coco. Now I'm wondering, if the ebony is as heavy ad Dymonwood changing my order.
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A 56" bow would be perfect for my 26" draw length. I shoot a 54" RER Arroyo with no problems. I really like the shape of the Stalker riser. South builds some sweet looking bows.
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58" Stalker Recurve
25" 50.2#
26" 53.2#
27" 56#
28" 59#
53.2# @ 26" 177fps (ave) 448gr arrow
56" Stalker Recurve
25" 49.5#
26" 52.3#
27" 55.3#
28" 58.3#
52.3# @ 26" 175fps (ave) 448gr arrow
448gr arrow (both bows shoot same spine)
3 under
7 3/8" brace (both bows)
9/16" nock pt (both bows)
Easton digital scale attached scale under arrow nock for weight measurement.
Shot finger release and used a prochrono for speed measurement.
Pound for pound, the two bows should shoot at the same speed. The 1 pound difference in weight between the two should account for the 2-3 fps difference. The draw from 25"-28" is almost identical with about 3lbs per inch of draw.
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Exactly right and nice profile. Those are identical perfromance figures. God bless and looks great , Steve
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Wannabe1, I do not know how ya can make a state ment like that without all info on the bow!! I shoot a 54" recurve that will handle 31-32" draw without stacking or finger pinch. I would love one in either a 1 piece or 3 piece!! Shawn
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Roy,
Yup Coco & Ebony is sweet! :thumbsup:
It's only my onpinion but ebony does seem a touch heavier than the average riser wood material.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0776.jpg)
Stephen here is the 56" bow drawn to 28"
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(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0762.jpg)
56" Stalker drawn to 26.5" (my draw length)
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0763.jpg)
58" Stalker drawn to 26.5" (my draw length)
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I was about to test drive one of his bows, but I just do not need to spend the money right now. My next recurve will probably be one of the Stalker bows. That is one nice looking bow you have there.
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I shoot a one piece 56" and yes I would shoot a 3 piece 56".
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I think a 56" bow would be a great addition to his line up! I love short recurves.
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I just called to talk with him regarding a bow, I guess he has been chasing elk the past week or two. I will have to see if he would make another 56" as I draw 25". I love it!!
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Given the informal results, The 56" shoots as good if not better the the 58" at 26" of draw. The draw weight increase from 25" to 28" are almost indentical with the two bows.
I would ask South what he recommends, but I would say that this bow would shoot fine up to 27" of draw.
So far, I got two other people that are sold on this bow. One placed an order on Friday and the other is going to call tomorrow! :thumbsup:
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0789.jpg)
Another great day at the range!
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:campfire:
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i would shoot a 56" t/d recurve in a heart beat at my 26" draw. very nice Bow
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Those Stalker recurves sure are tempting... Mighty nice! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Ryan, South sent me a 58" Stealth Model to shoot and I draw to a little over 29". All I can say is that if I can shoot that well with a shorter bow I am going to. For those with a little shorter draw length I can see where a 56" would be handy in a tree or ground blind. Here's a link of four good arrows out of the 58". NO stacking or pinch like some other bows that I have shot that were that length. Come on OCT!
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=093678
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Great looking rig Ryan. What is the total length of the riser? Did South make a shorter riser, limbs or both?
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I will be as soon as I get limbs. I picked up a mini 13 riser and with medium limbs it is going to come in at 56".
Good Shooting,
Craig
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Great looking bow...have not had a chance to shoot one but for me the 56" recurves are the best all around bows.
Think having a 56" bow available would be a wish choice.
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Thanks for the info Mike. Great shooting! When we meet up, I'm going to need some lessons!
Tom
It's the same length riser as the 58". It's the first one so he did have to modify it a touch. He got the shorter length by cutting down on the fade out section, so the working portion of the 58" and 56" limbs are almost the same. The geometry of the bow is a little different but not by much. I'll give you the exact measurement of the riser when I get home tonight.
All I can say is that my 58" has now turned into my back up bow!
Thanks for all the responses Gang! I really appreciate it! :thumbsup:
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Can you put a tape on the window? I'd like to know the distance in inches from the shelf to the beginning of the curve at the top of the window. I want to compare to some other bows I own to see if the window on the 56" would constrain my view of the target.
Thanks
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Roy,
I'll get you the measurements by tonight. I'll also try to take a picture of the riser from the shooters point of view.
Ryan
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I've gotta 46" RW Stalker. Shoots great upto 28" then hits a wall. :bigsmyl:
A 56" would be plenty long. I'd like to shoot one in a 3 piece TD. That oughtta be pretty sweet. :biglaugh: :archer2:
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Tom,
It's a 16 inch riser
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0795.jpg)
Roy,
Here is the pics of the sight window. I measured 3.5" to the lowest part of the beginning of the curve at the top of the window.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0792.jpg)
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0793.jpg)
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S2,
Excellent pictures -- it is very clear to me this window would not constrain my sight picture. I shoot my other bows. My 60" Pittsley Predators have only 4" windows and they are terrific.
I get the distinct feeling I'm being slowly reeled in here! I wonder if the fish like it as much as I do!
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Man that's a good lookin' riser..... :bigsmyl:
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Originally posted by Bowwild:
S2,
Excellent pictures -- it is very clear to me this window would not constrain my sight picture. I shoot my other bows. My 60" Pittsley Predators have only 4" windows and they are terrific.
I get the distinct feeling I'm being slowly reeled in here! I wonder if the fish like it as much as I do!
Here fishy...fishy...fishy :D
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Any other questions?
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Ryan,
I just ordered a 56" as well from South. Should have my hands on it shortly. I'll be certain to post picks!
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Sweet David!
I just love mine. Can't wait to see the pics!
I just shot a small goat with mine last week.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0807.jpg)
Good Luck with your new bow!
Aloha!
Ryan
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It looks very pretty.I love myself short recurves @ my 29"draw.Most of my bows are 58" and I don't own any 62".Like Bowwild I love the Bear A TD that is 56",my Bruin ME 56" and my Bighorn 54".I never had a problem to shot those.
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Congrats buddy :thumbsup:
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I draw 29" and I shoot a 54" Black Widow PCH and it is smooth as silk out to my draw and no noticible finger pinch. My other bows are 58",60" and 62".
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Thanks Curt!
Thanks for the support and feedback Gang! Much appreciated. Looks like South will keep this one in the line up! :thumbsup:
Here are two more 56" Stalkers (Surge model) that just arrived in Hawaii.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t142/rysanpei/IMG_0819.jpg)
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Ryan,
Outstanding testing and information! I draw 28.5" and much prefer a longer bow. My Stalker Recurve is a 62" pulling 67lbs at that draw. In my own testing my 520 grain arrows chrono at 205 FPS. Laymans terms (fast!).
But more importantly the bow is smooth pulling, no stacking, very comfortable in my hand and it hits where I'm aiming. I much prefer a longer bow for my 3 finger under "Rick Welch" coached shooting style. But I have no doubt that for guys shooting 27" and under a shorter Stalker would be a great shooting and performing bow.
I have shot my Stalker for almost a year and its a great bow! South has really created a bow that easily rivals any custom bow today. I highly recomend a Stalker to anyone looking to shoot a high quality, smooth, fast and beautiful custom bow.
Peter Iacavazzi
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Ryan,
That is a great looking bow. Mine has a Bocote riser with Ebony stripes. I chose Spalted Sycamore for the limb veneer. Hopefully be here by next weekend. Great photo w/ the goats.
Dave