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How many times have you walked though the woods and came apon a old wooden stand? As i seen this one I wondered how old it was,who hunted out of it,did they shoot any deer out of it.or even see any.I guess each one has a story to tell And some past memories >>>>>-----> ED (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/edoetzel/buckrub004.jpg)
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Over the years I have walked by lots of them. They are where they are for a reason.....usually a good spot and worth an extra look around.
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I've seen plenty of them and while the sight of one might spark a little backglancing to days of yore, do yourself a favor and make it a rule to stay out of them. Climbing into old stands that you know nothing about is a great way to hurt or kill yourself.
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Whenever I find one, I look around really well. Sometimes, one of my hangons ends up very near to the old wooden stands.
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Just like ishi said, they're all over the woods in Jersey. :saywhat: :archer2:
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I just make sure to stay out of em--I dont want to become the end of the story!
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Airborne I hope no one ever goes up one of those old wooden stands. :eek: :knothead: Especially without a parachute. :goldtooth: Don't want to see anyone go Airborne!! :goldtooth:
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Ton of em out where I hunt in Pville. Most of em we put there but you still find some old ones no longer in use or safe to use. Other than that I spend a bit of tkime hunting out of one.
J
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I find that hunting near them can be darn good sometimes. They were built there for a reason usually.
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Back in the mid 70's I used to hunt a bow only area in Washington called Nason Creek. It was an area that Glenn StCharles and others worked hard to get designated as bow only hunting. Glenn and friends build a few cabins it the area on US Forest Service land. One got burnt down but the Chalet I believe is still standing and used as a ski cabin by cross country skiers.
I found many old wooden tree stands while hunting this area. It was a prime mule deer migration route when the snows hit the high country and I assumed that was why the tree stands. Glenn shot a big muley in the area that stood high in the State record books for a long time. There was a great picture of Glenn and Jay sitting under a giant Ponderosa pine with the big muley buck in his archery shop.
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Just yesterday I was helping a friend try and locate a deer his son shot on Friday night and when we all gathered at the base of a newer treestand that was on the ajoining property that we had permission to look for this deer I noticed something odd in a heavy briar patch...It was a newer metal stand all twisted up like a twister had tossed it there for it's final resting place...I've seen hundreds of old wooden broken down stands but to see a more modern metal stand just threw me for a loop...
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Hunted by one this mourning.......
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I have found some old stands in the swamps I hunt and put a new one next to it. If they are built good then they may be hotspots.
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Ed,
the area Ron and i hunt has about a dozen or so like that and all of the same style so ya know it was 1 guy that built them and hunted the land for for a long time. the sights he must have saw, would love to have talked to the ole timer!
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I always hang a portable not far from the old Woodies!They are there for a reason!
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i'll take some pics this week and add them to your post.
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We called them permanent stands and I've hunted out of many back a long time ago.
Never went to the trouble to drag lumber into the woods or cut branches and sapplings to build one, but people who did go to the trouble made sure to put them in a good spot. I'd see a lot of them at old grown up home sites. Lots of times there would be fruit trees and several real old acorn trees at a home site.
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I have a different take on those old woodene permanent stands. I hate them. Walkingthrough a beautiful stand of woods, then seeing a decaying and falling off a tree is nothing more than litter to me. It annoys me that whom wver would take the trouble to build it wouldnt take the same trouble to haul the junk out after it rots away. They're eyesores.
Along with that, they are the most dangerous stand you can hunt from. They sit in the woods year round, as that tree swings and sways. Exposed to the elements, they weaken, and loosen up gradually over time. They look perfectly safe, but are know to have a step or something unexpectedly give way causing a fall.
I just returned from a hunt on a remote island of state land, the place is beautiful. But I wanted to puke every time I came across an old permanent treestand rotting and falling off a tree. To me its no different than running across a pile of beer cans or camp trash.
Yeah, they might be in a good area, but I just wish that good spot wasnt spoiled with someone elses dicarded junk.
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I personally think an old stand on public land is dangerous and an eye-soar to boot. If you feel comfortable doing it, I would suggest tearing them dowm and cleaning up the mess. Of course I would do this after the hunting season and only if you can do it safely.
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I used to hunt out of them all the time. now I'm older and wiser................also too fat :D
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Whenever I see one I look over the area carefully because as others have said they are usually in a good location. Back in the day I fell climbing out of one because an old step gave way. I literally hobbled home and drove up and bought my first Loc-On Lem. I do not like to see new ones (because we now know better) but the old ones are a bit of nostalgia.
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they always get my imagination going.. I also take a few minutes to study the set up and try to understand why they picked this spot. I want to learn everything I can...
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i heard about this old pick-up truck cab 20 ft. up in a tree in Adks.Mnts.n.y.pushed as tree grew up.Deep in woods, used as deer stand by old Mnt. man for years.People figure old shine runner truck.They say don't let him catch you in it he carrys rile!
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i hunt one that my grandfather built in 1950 or so over the years it has been repaired several times but its his land and always is good for game my dad uncles cousins and brothers all have shot somthing there
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Maybe 20 years ago I thought permanant stands were an eyesore too.....however these days, when I run across one I will often just stand there for a few minutes, look around and try to imagine what the woods looked like back then. To me they now represent a legitimate piece of history of what we call traditional archery. Amazing how our perspective changes as we get older...
In my younger years I did build a few of 'em. That is just what we did back then. It is now illegal to do that in Michigan. Prolly a good thing..
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My cousin did not stay out of one ,broken back and sufferage ever since.Was not paralized but still suffering after many years.
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When I see a really good constructed old stand I put mine up close to it.Back in the day most of those cats had it going on,and they have always been good spots.
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Back when I started hunting with my dad about 30 years ago that is all we used. Nowadays I see remnants of old ones on some of the properties I hunt. They bring back memories. The ones I come across don't seem to be eyesores. Infact I'd venture to guess most non-hunters passing through don't notice them. A few on my primary land now are so high up that I didn't even notice a couple until after hunting the property a few years. They were obviously gun stands and not bow though.
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My uncle and I plan on building one this summer.
It's a good way to hunt places you'd be afraid of putting up a movable stand, can't trust anyone.
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Check the laws for some states you cant build them anymore.
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Yes, every time I see one I do pause to learn the lessons it has to offer. It is there for a reason. Is it a funnel, a bedding area, is h2o near. Where are the deer coming from/going too? Why is it here.? I can, in my minds eye, see a man in a red and black wool coat with a 30.30 sitting in it... waiting...patiently.
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I removed one this past summer that looked alot like the one in the pic. In its place I put in a steel ladder stand. I didn't get to hunt it much due to the wind and family stuff but I had a camera out there and I got a pic of the biggest buck and biggest doe I have seen on our property with that camera. So yeah I would say that they are there for a reason.
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I've come across them on the private places I hunt with a buddy (his land). He doesn't hunt "hard" or far like we do, instead he likes to hunt for about 2 hrs max, and stay close to his truck to drive back to the house in case he has to poo-poo or something (big 350# tough guy who can't go #2 in the woods and hates the dark...hilarious)...but I digress.... I scout around on foot and see stuff that is probably 30+ years old which nobody knows about since they never really go far from the 3-4 gun stands they now have on their 7000 acre place. I even found a fallen down cabin back in the woods that nobody knew about on another place they have that's about 1500-2000ac. I'm sure the smaller property has several old stands on it, and I'll GPS mark them to investigate the spots further. That small place is hi-fenced and it's breached in many places from limbs falling on it, etc. Some deliberate cuts too with roads close by.
Surely the "neighbors" make use of the place as NOBODY hunts it, save for ducks and the occasional hogs. They really fish there mostly and enjoy the house.
We were stalking hogs through a serious river bottom on the BIG place in Oct and in the middle of the thickest briars and crap on the place just about, there's a tall ladder stand and deer feeder with hog wire around it.
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This I have also wondered! I even stop to take photos of every one I stumble across. It is magical to hang a stand in a new area and when the lights finally come on in the morning you have chosen a spot close to an old wood stand...makes me feel like that person did their scouting many moons ago and I get to hunt their spot :)
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I have a buddy who climbed up into an old wooden stand few years ago way back in by a swamp.To make a long story short, we had to transport him to the er by chopper for his triple leg fracture. :knothead:
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I also always wonder who and when the stands were put up. Was it put up in the early 70's? I can some times picture the person in the stand with his brand new Bear Grizzly that was made in Grayling MI., waiting for his first chance at a whitetail.
Darryl Quidort wrote a good article in a Michigan magazine called Woods and Water about an old stand that he had put up years ago and harvested a few deer from. The article had a picture of the stand in the tree and both are on the ground, rotted out. After years of remembering the good times hunting from that stand he noticed some trees around the fallen tree had grown big enough to support a hang on stand. He hunted the area and harvested a Buck. Very interesting article...
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ttt...
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As a woodlot owner and woods worker, what those things mean to me is nails in the tree. And if it's a tree on my land and you did that, I'm not too pleased. As mentioned, they ARE a piece of litter in the woods and if you put it up, you should remove it when done. Fat chance. It's really hard to remove nails from a tree after a bunch of years. I hope I don't hit them with the saw or run over them with the skidder. "Ah, they'll just rust away." I'm finding more galvanized nails these days. Lumber is long gone, nails still look OK.
Also people come on our land and cut trees to build their stands and then can't understand why I get upset. "They're just some little trees." You aren't getting it - little trees grow into big ones and then we can cut them for a living.
I appreciate the nostalgia of the scene, but to me it's a real lack of respect for the land.
I like the concept of Leave No Trace.
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I shot my very first deer here, up in these cherries. The stand's remains are down in between the trunks. Only deer that I have ever taken from a tree.
When I started hunting, there were stands all over these woods. Evidently, the guys who built them don't come here anymore, for which I am pleased. The stands become somebody's "turf", and I found myself tippy-toeing around them, trying to avoid disturbing somebody's hunt. I did spend a lot of days up in various locations, though, which gave me a bird's eye view of travel patterns. Sometimes I miss sitting in them, but then I remember the cold, the butt-spasming hardness of the seat, especially in the waning hours of the day. I was always wanting to see what made that noise just over the ridge, too, and couldn't without doing the pack-it-up, lower it on the rope dance. Now I just stand up and investigate, and scare whatever it was into the neighboring state.
I have had some hunts ruined by folks barging in to build stands, too. Now, not only is it illegal to put them up, it is illegal to sit in them. That day is gone in the public woods. These days, I sometimes go to gaze at them, and remember the view, and former hunts.
Killdeer
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My dad was old school and didnt believe in buying anything he didnt have to so I have alot of old wooden stands on my hunting land . Many good memories with my Dad and our old wooden stands , i miss him so much .
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heres one, on one of the places i hunt.
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Sometimes their not even in a tree, I see bits of 2x4's and plywood on the ground rotted almost past the point of recognition. Or better yet that one piece of lumber poking out of a tree trunk 20' up in the air- O if they could talk--especially if I've been hunting there for a couple of nights before I noticed it. Amazing that that ridge or swamp are still attractive to deer!