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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Nala on November 19, 2010, 01:10:00 AM
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Hey all,
One of the things that first got me interested in TRAD bows was seeing a Bear Takedown in one of their catalogs I picked up in a local archery shop one day. I thought it was one of the most beautiful bows I had ever seen. Even though I have never actually seen or handled one, I still think it is one of the most beautiful bows out there especially the rosewood versions of a couple years ago.
Since I have been involved in TRAD shooting for many years now I have seen many absolutely gorgeous bows, but the Bear TD's remain on top of my list as a "Holy Grail" bow to get someday.
I'm curious to see how many others out there feel the same way about these bows. What do you all think? How about sharing any stories you have about Bear TD bows? Of course I'd like see some pics if you have them too.
Thoughts?
Thanks for the time.
Nalajr
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I have your same feeling,in the 80's when i started shooting I was amazed by the beauty of the Custom Kodiak TD,but then I was shooting compounds so I never spent the high $s buying one.Only in the last 2 years joininig this site, the bug started to work on my mind I begun to buy old Bear bows,being the TD the most sought for beauty and design.being a lefty it is been a little more difficult to find bows because they are rarer.Now I have 9 of them plus several limbs.The best buy as a price,beauty and performances is the Green Stripe,the so called risers made since 1982.They were reintroduced after the original Type1 1969 version.Those GS are enough easy to find,but are becoming everyday more sought,because people are realizing the quality of the construction and the overall performances.The bow is stable,quiet,accurate and forgiving.With the Rose Oak limbs pretty fast and smooth too.I own several custom but the updated Green Stripe has nothing less that the best ones.
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0420.jpg)
This is the same bow with the Rose Oak limbs.
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCN0483.jpg)
In action during last elk season.
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My original Bear bow rack 1983,full of Bear custom Kodiak of various years.
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The Type 1 is for sure the most collectible,they were introduced in 1969 in 3 lenght configurations:A-B-C.The A is the shortest made in just 300 piece.I am been able to find one last year,but it is 2 years now that I am posting on the classified,looking for a B riser,with out success.I want one really bad and I'll keep looking.Only 400 were offered in B.The C is more a target riser and altrough is the rarest,200,it doesn't make the same high $s sa the other 2.
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The Green Stripe,costs on the average around a 1/4 of the original Type1 but it is as good.
The last model of TD is the laminated handle reintroduced in the end of the 90's and all along the 00's.It is still a very good riser and it was reoffered in the A lenght,that was discontinued,in the Green Stripe serie.It has a slender handle and was sold with ff capable limbs.The shelf was really much like Fred's personal one.
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The Rosewood version, still on sale,is the Supreme.It is a gorgeous bow with Zebra wood riser and Rose wood caps for the first serie and then with Zebra and Cocobolo.The limbs are Zebra wood under clear glass.It is a stunning bow but considered too expensive,it is $1400.Yes maybe is expensive but if you love the Bear TD and you can affort it,buy it.It is in the remembrance of the mytical Signature,the top of the TD line.
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/DSCF0001-3.jpg)
This is a type 1 B riser I sold because it was a RH.I am still looking for a lefty since then.
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You will not be disappointed from a Green Stripe performances.
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You've been Bear bitten, big time! Great looking bows you got there. :)
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Shad has a takedown that I really like to shoot, and one that I about stole from him. He had one of his kids here so I didn't beat him down and take his bow from him.
Chris Kiefner
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I have been a fan of the TDs for a long time. Recently I have become more of a fan of the Mag riser tds than the wood. The wood risers are better looking but the grips available on the Mags help my shooting. Due to shoulder problems I need to shoot very light limbs. If anyone has light limbs, I might be interested.
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I have the Supreme in A and B handles with two sets of limbs by Bear and a Rose Oak set coming at month's end. Frankly, if I had not heard on this site the Rose Oak limbs are superior performers I would have been satisfied with my factory Bears. I'm a leftie also. The Supremes are very well built and finished. Some aren't crazy about the slimmed down riser profile but I find the grip and balance very comfortable and effective.
The new TD Bear is making now (replaces the Supreme) is much more affordable as it is made from "actionwoods". It is about $600 LESS than the Supreme and I think would be a very fine buy.
Interestingly, I visited Bear in early October and talked to the manager. When I told him some folks like the bulkier risers of old he said they have actually produced some bulkier risers for a few folks on special order. Apparently they just don't machine them down quite as slim. I don't know if they'd do that now though. Frankly, I don't know if I'd second- guess Bear on the riser design even if I could.
One thing I've found. Not all limbs fit on the peg so the latches can be closed on the riser. I'm hoping the Rose Oak limbs I receive soon will fit both risers without issue. If not, I'll have to send the offending riser or the limbs to Rose Oak and have them adjusted.
I don't hunt with my Supremes, at least not this year. However, these are two of my bows (a blacktail is another) that I shoot regularly even now, during he season. I hunt with a recurve called "The Stick".
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Hey,thats my buddy Felix !LOL When someone wants to know about bows,especially Bears Felix is a walking book of knowledge with lots of stock to back 'er up.God I wish he could find that Riser he needs.
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Thanks Steve.
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great pics! I've never owned a Bear takedown, but I sure enjoy looking at them.
Thanks for sharing cacciatore :thumbsup:
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There is nothing like the Bear takedowns. Limbs are interchangeable with all the risers. There are people that are making some quality limbs that fit the older risers and as you get older you get lighter limbs and you are still shooting the same riser. Plus the BEST takedown system ever devised period. http:// (http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/zepnut/DSCF0621.jpg)
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Now Zepnut that's a bit too many risers for one man. In keeping with our President and his philosophies of where he wants to take our country, why don't you "spread the wealth around" and send me one? Both you and I will feel much better for it, I can assure you. Then everyone here will see your example and be inspired as such to "spread the wealth around" in their own lives. See how a simple gesture on your part trickles down to affect so many more people? You can be a walking, talking symbol of his policies actually WORKING for the "common" man. I get goosebumbs thinking about it. Your name will go down for the ages. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see you get an invite to the White House Christmas Party. Your Star is on the rise...for sure. All because of a simple gesture of giving on your part.
I'll take an "A" riser with a draw weight close to 45 pounds.
I knew one of Obama's policies would work for me someday. ZepNut, you're my hero!!
Nalajr
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That is a nice bunch of bows!
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Just my opinion but Bear TDs are the best bow out there. I've owned probably 20-30 different "custom" bows but my A riser with #2 limbs is one bow that I will own till the day I die! It always shoots right where I'm looking! I love them!
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Felix that is a wonderful collection of bows! Those Rose Oak limbs look great
Lucas
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I don't own one, but do admire them. I think the new ones on the Bear web are a step in the right direction! Maybe someday! :archer:
Frank
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My first bow was a Bear bow and in my humble opinion Fred Bear is bowhunting. I too have several of the TD's. All sorts of limbs both Bear and Rose Oak.
This pic was taken this afternoon while I was in my ground blind.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1290218565.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1290218565.jpg)
If I am hunting I have a Bear TD in my hand. Love them!!
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Like my friend Felix (and zepnut too I see... :notworthy: ) I also have a love for the Bear T/D's and have collected a variety of models.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/stickbow98/BearTDCollection.jpg)
From the top of the line Signature, to the '69 Type 1A, the newer Supreme model and the Fred Bear Takedown, and a 1970 version of the Mag T/D.
All great lookers, shooters and keepers!!! :D
:archer:
>>--Ron--<>
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Ron,post a pic of your beautiful,Signature,I'll post a pic of mine.They are simply gorgeous.
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Nothing but a Bear T/D for me also. Love the A risers.
Dave
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Wow. Some great looking Bear TDs there. I have 4 risers and 5 sets of limbs. Great bows, and the best take down system ever devised.
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I recently traded a crossbow for a green stripe riser w/ 50# limbs, the original instruction sheet, and a tube of Fred Bear Wax.
Couldn't resist making a case so as to take advantage of the take-down feature:
(http://imgur.com/9EbUY.jpg)
Details on the case here:
Tradgang:case for a Custom Kodiak T/D (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=095386;p=1#000006)
For people who are subscribed to Archery Talk:
AT:Making case for takedown bow --- suggestions (http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1335300)
I'd be glad of suggestions for improvements when I make a second case of walnut.
William
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ref the bow case above, how did you attach the top and bottom? Can you post pictures of the top and bottom?
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William,double congrats:first for you talent on the case,maybe a better finish can make it more precious.Then for your trade,you have a piece of history now.
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It's a pair of decorative brass hinges holding the case together at the back.
The ArcheryTalk thread has a picture of cutting the case apart which will give you an idea of what it looks like.
As I noted, I'm considering this a prototype and the top and bottom have a knot and some patched saw scars, and are from a cut-off scrap of closet door I picked up off the side of the road, so aren't that nice.
William
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Those original TDs are beautiful!
I'm going to get my paws on a LH A or B Mag one of these days. I've seen pictures on these Bear TD threads of one dipped in Predator Camo -- my favorite pattern--what a combo! I had a rightie B Mag back in 1970 or so but it's long gone and now I shoot LH to match my dominant eye. I know my memory is probablly playing tricks with me but I remember shooting that bow better than any recurve I currently have. I should have bought one from the classifieds last week -- a fellow sold one with limbs for $435 or so -- I didn't need the limbs though.
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The Bear T/D, to me anyway, is the classic takedown bow of all time. The unique latch system, plus the beauty of the original wood risers, has no equal. I've had a couple of the mag risers, and they shot well. The wood risers are out of my league. Zepnut has a set of osage or yew limbs that match his riser wood very nicely, and together make the finest looking Bear T/D I've ever seen.
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I was referring to the wood panels, how are they attached?
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The plywood panels for the top and bottom float in grooves (dadoes) which I cut in the sides --- stopped dadoes for the ends, the long pieces match up w/ dovetails, so are through.
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That is what I was wanting to see. I have been wanting to do something similar and was not sure about the grooves. You do nice work.
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My first post here... been reading for a while but decided I couldn't sit out any more! I always thought the BEAR TD was really cool but way too expensive for me.... until one day my Dad called me up and said he had something for me. A friend of his was at a garage sale and bought a bow riser for $5. He didn't want it so he gave it to my Dad. My Dad is a lefty and the riser was RH so.... I went to pick it up and it was an early 90's Bear Custom Kodiak riser... still in the box, shrink wrapped including the receipt from Bill Krenz! It looks just like the one William Adams has in the pic above. I have since bought a set of 60# green tip limbs and 43# grayling limbs with fascor.
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I once had a bear TD like Toehead's except mine was not signed. I bought it from Bullseye archery in Millington Tenn for 400.00 dollars in 1980. I orginally ordered it at 65lbs, but when it came in, it was in two small boxes: one for the riser the other for the limbs. Anyhow, the guys at bullseye were throwing away boxes as they just got in a new shipment of compounds, and they through my bow in the garbage. I'm sad to say, that some where buried in a landfield in Tenn. is/was a brand new Bear Kodiak TD that never came out of its box. Anyhow, I got a replacement but only at 55lbs. I was stupid enough to sell the bow in 1990 to a fellow in Idaho for $100.00, and regreted it. A couple of years ago in 2007-2008, I saw it on E-bay. The original boxes with my name scrolled across the top. The upper limb had some of the finish removed, but that was were I had put camo tape on the limb and it pulled it off. I contacted the seller who was in Wyoming. He had purchased it from a person in Penn., and he was putting it up for sale. I bid on it till it went to $600.00, but couldn't go no more. It sold to someone in Mich. for $800 plus. I did get pictures off of E-bay of it. I've always wished I could have gotten it back. Although not as good as the original one, I might have to pick up one of the new gray ones for 2011.
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Anyone have a new one in their hands yet?
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I have one and love it. I also have have a BW PMA but can't
leave the Bear on the hook for long.
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PICS!!
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I sold a RH Type 1 in then mid 90's when I switched to LH shooting. I have the supreme in both A & B riser, 2 sets of Bear limbs and on Monday this week I received my long-awaited Rose Oak limbs.
These bows aren't my go to hunters but I like them and they are good shooters. The 2011 Bear Td for $799 is a bargain!
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This thread needs to get started again. I am sure there are a lot of Bear TD fans hear. I recently became the owner of a new TD B-riser. Great bow.
Tom
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On my list of bows to own sometime soon....
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I found some few others in these time. :bigsmyl:
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New A riser
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New B Riser
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Type 1 "A" with 50# #1 limbs:
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Type 2 "A" still in original plastic wrap. No fingerprints on it since it left Grayling....except for the plastic!
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I'm a lefty and used to watch Fred Bear on tv when I was a kid in the early 60's. My first real bow was a Kodiak hunter that I shot for 17 years. I have always wanted a t/d . Are these takedowns limited to a 60" length like the one piece Kodiak?
I will be on the hunt for one in the future. Is there a model to stay away from??
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I've used one for the last 28 years.
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Just to let you take down fans know, I have about a dozzen or so bows coming that are going to be special.
Bear made an accidental run of risers that have red glass in place of the white glass. They won't do this on order (believe me I tried because I thought it would look a lot better).
I have "A" & "B" risers coming including a couple of left handers. I also have multiple limbs to choose from. When these are gone, that will be it. The color scheme is a big improvement, IMHO, over the white glass.
I will have them on my website when I get them, but you may call to put a deposit on one to hold it. Should have them in about 2 weeks +-.
thanks, bigjim
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Holy smokes that is tempting Jim....glad this didn't come through yesterday when I was ordering some Gold Tip Blems.
Just will share a few of my Bears.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1332456529.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1332456529.jpg)
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1332456705.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1332456705.jpg)
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1332456989.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1332456989.jpg)
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1332457134.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1332457134.jpg)
I am what I would call a "Bear TD guy" through and through. Good to see I am not alone though!
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I'd love to have one! Does that count? :cool: I really do like them, maybe someday! ;)
Frank
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Beautiful flamed riser John! I want to hear the details...
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Wow those are some nice td's. The flames are crazy sweet. I recently got mag a and b. next up is wood. I hope. I am hooked.
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Jim, I will need to see the pictures of those bows. I don't get it. Are these the Bubinga Risers?
Tom
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John,those flames look good!Very nice.
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Tomwatson, they are Bubbinga risers. What's not to get. The standard way of building them is with white glass just inside the black glass on the belly and back of the riser.
Way too many contrasting colors going on there "but that's just me".
One of there builders put red glass there instead of white by mistake and they set them aside, not knowing what to do with them. Then along comes BigJim. When I found out, I took all of them in lieu of my order of standard risers that were due to me any minute.
If you buy one and don't like it or put a deposit down on one and don't like it, I'll refund you money and sell it to the next guy in line.
Thanks, bigjim
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Any one got a good pic of the bubbinga risor.
doug77
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That's what I figured Jim. So the white outline of glass is Red. I own a Dymondwood model and I knew that the glass under the black is already red. I will have to keep this in mind.
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what is the overall length of the B & A risers?
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BIGJIM GAVE HIM A DEPOSIT FOR A AND B RISER'S
WILL SEE WHAT THERE LIKE? IN A COUPLE WEEKS
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Those red/black capped Bubinga risers look real good, you wont be disappointed.
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Here's a new Bubinga A with Bear #3 limbs. The new limbs are surprisingly good in the performance dept. I was thinking I'd sell the limbs as soon as I got em. However, the Bubinga wedges match the bow great and the limbs shoot with one of my after-market limbs and better than another pair of after-market.
You can see in the picture below my Bubinga has the white glass later between the glass and the riser. The red would look cool but I like this fine white layer in my bow. If I had to decide between a 12-week wait for the white layer or right now for BigJim's red layer, I'd save the time and go red! My serial # is 12-008.
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Just got one in a trade... had to see what this is all about :)
It's defiantly the odd man out in this rack :)
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Craig, good to hear from you. Maybe you could enlighten us about the current happenings with the new Bear T/D. I thought a Walnut riser would look really neat. I heard Bear only produced about two of these in the past as prototypes.
Tom
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I would like to keep this thread growing. There has to be more Bear TD shooters out there. Post some pictures if you have them.
Tom
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Sure would be nice to see them! I know their is a very good following of these bows. Don't be bashful show them off!
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(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/Wildboar2011-Jan.jpg)
They are great weapons.
This is my 1982 Green Stripe signed to me by Glenn St.Charles.
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Same bow in the Colorado Rockies,chasing elk.
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At home preparing for elk season!
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Joy is a rack full of Bear TD:some Type 1 Green Stripe and Supreme.
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Still wrapped and boxed since 1982!
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They are really stable and accurate.
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Now the rack is almost full of Type 1. :jumper:
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This one will join the rack pretty soon,but I don't think it will collect just dust!
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Felix: You know it's just not right to keep a great lady locked up like that, I think she would really like to be set free, kinda like sleeping beauty, just too damn nice to be laying there doing nothing. Now, I know a left handed Prince that is willing to set her free!!!!!!Get my drift?? Now I know why it's so hard to find any LH wood risers, you have them all..RW
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Very nice Felix, and LH to boot!
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RW,I promise you to let them free to hunt with me.They will have Mojo during this year,hopefully!They are been made to hunt and this is what I do!
Maybe next year I'll be in your state and we can meet so you have a test drive on some.
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Very nice cacciatore!
I'm new to the Bear TDs but loving this Red Stripe:
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Besides *****, where would someone look for a Bear takedown? They are great looking bows.
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Felix,
That boar is a wild looking beast!
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One of the best I have shot, Type 2 with RER limbs. (http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/massaro-60/P1010450.jpg)
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Bishop, I love the new Red Stripe also. I have had nothing in the way of major problems like some claim. It is a given that the New Bear would have some growing pains. Here is a great article that was very informative about the New Bear Archery direction : http://arrowtrademagazine.com/articles/may_11/May2011-BearAimsToRecaptureTraditionalGlory.pdf
Tom
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A few recent acquisitions.
Top one A Supreme riser with Windauer Yew limbs
Bottom Mike St John riser with Rose Oak limbs
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Very personal TDs,I love the Signature.
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Tom my Red Stripe has been flawless, love the bow.
Nice article, thanks for the link.
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I thought the Red Stripe was great also. I prefer just a tad bit more narrow grip throat though so I traded mine.
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Zepnut, tell us a little more about that Mark St. John riser. I never knew that there was a Bear TD clone out.
Tom
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Rumor has it that Mike St John made 4 or 5 them back in the late 90's. The riser looks better in person than the photos.
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Tom
Great article on the new Bear line. Hopefully they can maintain a strong standard and be competitive in a tough market. Lots of great bowyers out there.
Felix
Recently got back from visiting your country. Great food and wine with LOTS of pretty women. I think you have the best of attitudes. Hunting the Western US with Very Nice vintage Bear Archery gear and returning home with great stories.
Ahhhhh the Good Life!!
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I have sold a couple over the last year I wish I could have back. Got a couple keepers now. Great bows, lots of history to them.
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Larry,life is good!
Next time you'll pass from here send me a PM I provvide you plenty of fun!
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Nice photos OBXarcher. I plan on hunting with my Red Stripe this year as my go to bow. I have had my eye on a Bubinga, but I am going to wait. Who knows what Bear might introduce next year? I loved the look of the Supreme, too bad they couldn't bring that one back.
Tom
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Add me to the list. Got a '04 A riser with #1 limbs and it is smooth and accurate. Just happens to be the same year I decided to go back to traditional too!
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Tom,
Were going to continue the Red Stripe and Bubinga models and maybe add a Bubinga with black caps using Black Dymondwood or Ebony. We have made a few prototypes and both look pretty good. Its still early yet and were trying new things all the time so maybe that will change. I'll try to post some pics if possible.
Craig
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I enjoy shooting my 90's B handle and my mag B handle. My down fall is I like shooting longbows also. If I was flushed With cash I would have more Bear TD's .
Craig, what I would like to own is a B handle made from the same stock that the metal handles are made from for the Bear compounds. I am Leary that the newer limbs and strings might cause the mag handles to break. I know the demand for a metal handle might not be as great as the new wood ones but is it that much to program the CNC machine to make the metal handle? Thanks, Tom M
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Tom, what poundage are you shooting in the Mag handles? I shoot 60 # on a 76er riser and 76# on an A Mag with no issues for about a year. both with skinny FF.
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With the metal risers coming back I would like to see Bear metal risers also.
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I shoot 60lb. #3 limbs on my mag handle. I also shoot a set of Rose Oak limbs at 55lbs.
Mag handles must be cast without air pockets. This was a problem with early compounds breaking. The recurve of those days did not have the stress we can put on them now. So if a guy has one of those not so perfect handles it could be broken using the modern limbs and strings. IMHO The next step is Carbon/foam limbs. At the higher weights I wonder about the stress on the handle. Agian my case for a machined aluminum handle.
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That black-capped Bubinga sounds very nice!
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Agree with Bowwild. My wife is gonna hate me!
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Tom, i agree about the possibility of air pockets and less then perfect casts.....but life is full of risks....I personally feel this risk is pretty small. I also agree that it would be nice to shoot the latest wiz-bang technology limbs ....just to see if there is a difference I could notice.
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A two wood riser like the new super kodiaks would be sweeeeeeeeet. I would be first in line
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Craig, OBXArcher has a good idea on the two wood riser. I guess with Trad-archers like us, Bear will never run out of ideas :D . By the way, I was looking at the Rutland site and saw that the Dymondwood comes in all sorts of colors. A green Dymondwood riser with a black accent stripe would be pretty neat. I can see it now the new "Black Stripe." I am glad to see this thread growing.
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Bought mine new in 1970, still shoot it.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3apvrel1yo
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Roy
That is a class act you have there!!! Nice form too.........
Looks to my poor eyes like a C Riser and your pulling 27" to 28". Looks like Nice Performance!!
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Thanks Larry and yes it's a C riser. 27.5 draw length. That ole take down has quite a few bucks to her credit over the past 40 years...
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I have loved these bows since I started shooting in 1970, I've owned two wood A handles over the years but money woes forced me to sell. I currently shoot several mag handles, both A and B and original limbs. A new bubinga may be in my future. Simply my favorite bows ever.
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Nice bow Roy! :thumbsup:
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Nice bow Roy! Not many C-risers seen anymore. Those old Bears can still shoot with the best of them today.
Tom
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Roy: How did you manage to get the sight window cut past center. I love the elevated rest and plunger. Looks like a really nice shooting outfit.
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Outstanding bows. I have 4 and love them all. And the photos in this thread are making me want to go get another TD -- and I can't afford to do that. Oh, the drooling and the temptation.....
I have to be resist temptation.....
I have to be strong.....
I have to be strong.....
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I'm all for the contrasting color caps. With the exception of the 67.5, it's what set the S.K.'s apart from all others.
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Bill it came like that cut past center and the Berger Button makes tuning a snap, plus the rest is a little magnetic rod that springs in when the arrow passes it. It's called a Bear Victor Viking, riser is made from futura wood, whatever that is:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRSUaiUwlQI
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Roy,
Thanks for posting that youtube link. That is an outstanding interview with Mr. Bear.
Joe
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Here is a link to it if others want to view it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEaaESlTJog&feature=related
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I sure wish Bear would bring back the custom shop. I called them not long ago and the girl said they only come as you see them in the ads. Would be nice to have a choice in woods and grip styles. Even just the three like in the Mag Risers. You would think they would have some of those laying around to use as a template. I don't care for the red stripes and plain actionwood or the compass either. But that's just me. :dunno:
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Gun, it would be nice for them to offer some custom orders. Some would like to see the old Future Wood come back, but I think Dymond wood has replaced that. As far as grip styles, I saw at the K-Zoo expo that you can order the bow with "Fred's Grip" (lowered arrow shelf) as an option.
Tom
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Originally posted by tomwatson:
. As far as grip styles, I saw at the K-Zoo expo that you can order the bow with "Fred's Grip" (lowered arrow shelf) as an option.Tom
I would be very interested in finding out more specifics about this. I've heard something similar from others but can't quite seem to nail down how to make this happen.
As a "Bear guy" I would be in favor of all sorts of "custom" options being offered from the plant and would be more than willing to pay.
Would love to see a new Mag riser along with more wood TD options.
I too had a new red stripe but traded it away because the grip didn't quite fit like some of my other Bears.
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Whew! Thought I killed a thread again.
I have the #2 Grip on a Bear Mag and like it. The three options that were available should about cover everyone. I just think Bear is missing the boat. Especially since the old risers are getting so expensive and hard to find as collectors are "hoarding" them.
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I didn't realize I was collecting them until after the TV program "Hoarders" contacted me about filming a episode for their show. Told me someone in Canada had notified them.
Gun,
You will be happy to know that due to their intervention I will be letting go of a couple extra B Mags not shown as part of my therapy.
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left to right Grayling C handle Type 1, A handle Type II, B mag, Gainesville Green Strip B handle early one, Green Stripe B handle factory camo and Green Stripe B handle
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Hopefully Bear is listening, and I am sure that if the demand stays high they will see to it.
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Jack- Too funny!
But...
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I rest my case.
Not mine BTW. Saw on another thread.
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This is a collection of TDs :pray:
I am glad they are rh so i have a chance for some lh.
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Gun,
Now that is a collection! I saw them on another thread also but I can't seem to locate it now.
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ABEAR'S great collection! great guy too
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I only have one :( .
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Tom,it is a good begining! :)
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Bear TD in South TX!
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Nice looking cat whiskers,John!
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Wow Gun, if someone asks how many Bear TDs you have you can simply reply, "All of em!"
That Type A is a beauty!
I've been offered two, still in the box, that are custom jobs by past employees. One is solid ebony. I can't afford em though.
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The "lunchbox special" Bear TD and so neat to see. I've seen a few but not alot by any stretch.
One thing I did see the past year at Denton Hill was a Bear TD riser that a guy had built himself....man was it nice! Wish I had that kind of talent.
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Matching A Riser and limbs:
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Roy- not mine as stated. I only have a A Mag. As much as I'd like to have an older wood A, Doubt I'll find one "reasonably" priced anymore.
Bet you're getting lots of e-mails now about those two lunchbox specials.
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Hey all,
I'm glad to see my old thread made a new appearance. I love these Bear TD bows even though I have never seen or handled one in person. Probably best I don't too cause I know I'd want one even more than I do now.
Seeing the pics you all posted of the variations over the years it occurred to me that all the Bear TD's look great. I wouldn't mind having any year. I don't know enough about them to say which one is a favorite.
Hey you all, how about posting some pics of the whole bow instead of just the riser? Don't get me wrong, I love the pics of the risers, I just would like to see the whole deal from top to bottom in all their glorious beauty....hehe.
Lastly, since I don't know as much about them as I would like, can you all give me a decent idea as to what a good price would be on an A riser in 45 to 50 pound draw? I know the least expensive would be the Magnesium riser, but after that, as to what year would be the best bargain, I have no clue. What would be my best chance to get one?
Thanks everyone for jumping back into this thread and posting thoughts and pics. I am enjoying it.
Nalajr
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Nala, you are right the Mags are the cheapest...then in my opinion the 2000 era risers, then a big middle area, and probably Type 1A and Bs being the most expensive. Just my opinion from watching....sometimes you pay too much if you really want it....soemtimes you find a deal. Limbs are another subject as they have changed over the years from Bear and there are aftermarket limbs.
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I think the new ones are a deal for the $$$.
just my $0.02
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I was fortunate enough to trade a Browning Sweet Sixteen for a A-Riser 2008 vintage and it shoots so nice, i shoot it everyday the weather permits here in Maine, i won't take her out in anything i wouldn't take my girlfriend out in, safe bet, i am currently figuring out what is headed next to add a new Dymondwood or Bubinga A-Riser and start me on my journey on hoarding Bears
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Hey! Maybe we can catch the HH thread! :D
Thanks Chad for that brief. I've been kind of wondering that myself. It took me about 8 months to find my Mag Riser. Been watching the Auction site for other Bear stuff. Prices do wander all over the place it seems. I'm waiting for a bunch of Old Bear quivers right now. I found one that I liked and bought. Then saw a classified for some more and got too good of a deal to pass up up for the lot.
It would be interesting to see some homemade versions. There is one now on the collector site. I would like to try that, but I hear it's near impossible to get the hinge assembly.
Hi Kelly!
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3Rivers sells the Bear latch assembly.
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John- yeah but you still need the socket part, key and set screw. I have yet to see a wood handle up close but i think its a separate unit attached to the Riser somehow. On the Mags its part of the casting.
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Nala, what are you waiting for. The new ones are nice if you can't get your hands on an older one.
Tom
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Gun, You are spot on. I've never been brave enough to try to remove the other portion of a latch but others have been successful. Beyond my very limited skill set and I don't want to make it worse.
I like to fly my "Bear TD Pride" everywhere I go:
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these look and sound like great bows to have and I've decided I really want one to go along with my new to me '66 Kodiak that I've grown so fond of. Anybody know the weight differences between the mag risers and the wood ones? thanks... and keep those pics comin'... they really all look awesome!
jason
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I got a call from Big Jim this morning. My new A riser has a chance of being here as early as next week. Can't wait!
Dan
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I kinda felt left out on this thread so had to post a pic
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DGF
Got my new B riser from Big Jim today , the Bubinga with red glass. Looks great and shoots great. Got a Green Stripe last week. It's been a real good two weeks!!
These Bear T/D's are really good bows
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Originally posted by Bowboy_AR:
Anybody know the weight differences between the mag risers and the wood ones? thanks... and keep those pics comin'... they really all look awesome!
jason
I've seen Bear limbs marked with both 2 and 3 pound differences. A risers being shorter will have the higher draw weight than B or C risers with the same limbs.
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That would explain my current limbs. Marked at 53# but are actually 58# on my Mag Riser.
I saw a picture somewhere of a Mag A & Wood A side by side. I can't remember which, but one looked a bit longer.
Hey Stan, lets see some pix of the old and new side by side!
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I'll post them next week. The new limbs are alot faster than the older green tips. Both bows shoot where you look. I bought my first Bear in 1972 a Kodiak Hunter when I was in high school and shot for 15 years. Good to have a Bear again.
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Im waiting on mine Stan ordered mine from big jim also my Riser came in thats a b riser left handed bought my a riser last week Im just waiting for the limbs Zarch
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I have been known to shoot a Bear TD or two.........
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I'm gonna have to have one of these TD Bear bows. I can't get one right now, but I will at some point. I wish I had a rich uncle out there somewhere..... :)
All these TD's you all have posted are beautiful. I wouldn't mind having a single one of them.
I am probably going to start looking for a Mag style with an A Handle in 45 pounds or so and see if I can get it at a good price. I know, I know, "good price" and Bear TD" doesn't really go in the same sentence together, but I have to get lucky at least 1 time in my life with archery equipment, right?
Thanks all for the info and pics. Please keep the pics coming, I love 'em all and if you all don't mind, I also SAVE THEM. Don't worry I would NEVER, EVER post them and say that they were mine or try and mislead someone in selling something that wasn't mine. I just save them because I love pics of bows....and guns.....and knives....and watches....
I have TOO MANY LOVES and not enough MONEY!! How depressing.
Nalajr
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The Bear TDs have been good to me........
,,,,,Sam,,,,,
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Yep, thats what they were made for.
Great pics Sam, thanks for posting.
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I have only been shooting them a year and I think I like em...................
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Sam, you are 'surgical' with those bows!!
Here's mine, 2005 A handle.
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Great Pics,Sam.
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I might as well jump in on this thread also. I have only three bows that were bought brand new and two of those were Bear T/Ds. My first was bought in 1990 and it replaced my 67 1/2 SK as a hunting bow for the next fifteen years. Last year I bought a new red stripe A-Handle and ordered it without the threaded inserts. I have a set of Rose Oak #1 limbs on it and that was my main bow of choice last fall.
Yesterday, I received word from Brandon that my new set of #3s were done and would ship Monday. Who knows, there could be another T/D Handle in my future.
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Good thread! Sam I would say you have been very busy. Great pics.
There is a pic of my green stripe in the collectors section.
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Good thread! Sam I would say you have been very busy. Great pics.
There is a pic of my green stripe in the collectors section.
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OK Sam Ok Sam stop showing off, your making us feel bad(LOL) Talking about whetting one appetite. Congrats on such a fine job. Man I am impressed, what a collection of harvest taken with those Bear Takedowns. I have to wait til next season to fully put mine through the ringer, because I am devoting the whole 2012 season to hunting with my Bear 59 Kodiak. Thanks Sam for sharing all those nice pics.
Tony
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Great pics Sam! Thanks for sharing and congrats!
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Thought I would share this pic here too.
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DGF, Big Jim called me too. Expecting my "red" B handle Bubinga next week.
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stagetek
Here is what you get to look forward to.
I ordered this A riser Bubinga last summer from Big Jake and Danny Dupree at Tri State Traditional Archery in Kendallville Ind last summer. Just got it last week.
The limbs are some old #2's I had laying around. It makes a nice 58" 48 @ 29 bow for me.
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Sam- You give those things a workout!
Great pics everyone!
Dan
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:thumbsup:
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my son @ BQ5 (http://i797.photobucket.com/albums/yy259/elizipper/DSCF2489.jpg)
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Quite the year there Sam. Congrats! How long did it take you to find all those takedowns?
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It was a great year , did not take very long to find them , finding was the easy part , paying for them was the hard part. I now own 12 Bear TDs , its almost as fun hunting for them as hunting with them. ( well almost )
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Sam, good to see your bows aren't collecting dust. Great job. Kuch, nice pics.
Shick
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This Supreme B riser was right at home in Hog Heaven!
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My new red stripe from big Jim should arrive today.
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Otto, My "all red" striper should arrive today or tomorrow. I may sand off the matte finish and put a gloss finish on it...still deciding.
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Looking good everyone.
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I was very pleased with my " all Red Stripe" that bow shoots on par with any recurve I have ever shot. They have done Mr. Bear proud. And it looks good to boot.
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Well I got my bubinga B riser today from Big Jim. They look better in person than in print if you ask me. The grip is NOTHING like the Dymondwood one I got a couple months ago. The Bubinga is tiny, very narrow. The gray one was really beefy, I took a bunch off the front, rounding the edges down.
someone asked about the throat on the bubinga, it's 4 3/4"
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Mark thanks for taking the measurement. Very nice riser for sure. How much heavier is it than your A riser? thanks tom
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It is actually a little lighter than the A. It is very slim.
It is hard to believe they make them so different. I am curious to know if they are all the same or it's just a crap shoot what kind of grip you are gonna get.
Anyone else have both of the new ones. How do they compare ?
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My diamondwood red stripe looks just like your bubinga riser, very, very slim and with the "S" shape to the front of the grip. I have a bubinga riser on order. I hope it comes in similiar to yours. Mine is a "B" as well. I wonder if the A's & B's come with different grips?
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I got a Bubinga B riser last week. The throat is 4 3/4" like OBXarcher's. It surprised me how thin the riser is from side to side.....1" wide.
The grip felt strange at first, but it didn't take long to adjust to it, and it's a very nice performer, not a speed demon, but it's very easy for me to be accurate with.....I like it.
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Mark,
My dymondwood red stripe is exactly like yours before you worked it over. I have had a bubinga on order since November and they said 6 weeks! Anyway I couldn't wait and bought one of Big Jim's red B's. Grip is thin like yours. Bottom limb wouldn't go on past the locator screw. I shoot Rose Oaks. I took it out and shot the bow without the screw over the weekend and called Bear this morning. They said ship it back at my cost and they would fix. Second call was to big Jim and he said don't worry I will get you the freight cost reimbursed. This guy is outstanding! but we discussed since the limbs are not Bears its a bit marginal to expect them to fit to the riser. I agree to a point, but am willing to bet Brandon's limb is not the culprit.
Third call was to Brandon and he said (despite what some believe)that the screw locates the limb vertically and without the screw the tiller can be compromised and in worse case the limb could be damaged. Same answer as Bear but they didn't say why. Anyway after chucking the screw in the drill press and sanding it down, still no go. Switched the top and bottom screws and finally got the bottom limb on. I still love Bear and am even more impressed with Brandon Stahl and Big Jim.
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The A Bubinga has a beefier grip and little larger throat. mine measures 4 7/8 and my B measures 4 5/8. the B is slimmer all over. the A Has a nice feel to me the shelf just sits a little higher . Jim
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I'm surprised the A and B risers don't have the same specifications from model to model? I didn't take measurements but I recall my Supreme B and A were both the same except the B was longer of course.
I really liked the look and feel of the Red Stripe 2011 A riser but it was just a bit too big in the throat for me. I almost had it worked down but decided to move it instead. My bubinga grip is much better for me.
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I too moved my Red Stripe A riser because of the "beefy" grip. From what I'm seeing and hearing the Bubinga handles are a little "slimmer"....just the way I like them.
May have to consider a Bubinga now.
Interesting about limb and riser fit. I too seem to have certain limbs that fit certain handles best. I shoot my Rose Oaks mostly with a set or two of Bear limbs on occasion.
Could not agree more about Brandon Stahl and Big Jim...always a pleasure to deal with the both of them.
Enjoying the thread guys!
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I have 4 set of limbs, new and old, All fit just fine.
Need to twist up a string to try out the new b riser. First impressions are it will be up for sale though.
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Originally posted by OBXarcher:
Need to twist up a string to try out the new b riser. First impressions are it will be up for sale though.
You have me curious, is it a personal fit thing, or just not impressed with something else?
Dan
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Dan, personal fit thing. The workmanship is flawless. It just doesn't feel right compared to all my other recurves. I think it is a good grip for a lot of people. It would be good for not torquing a bow and shooting with an open hand that's for sure.
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Those new Bubinga risers look great.
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I'd like to be one of you guys that loves his Bear takedown, and I just might soon be. ;)
Does anyone know the actual physical weights of the dymondwood and bubinga risers?
Lippe
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Recent photo of my Bear Kodiak TD.
(Note: Press the F5 key to refresh the page if the image fails to download.)
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Gary , that is a great photo. And your a lefty!
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Yep, I shoot southpaw . . . just like the designer of the original Kodiak TD :^).
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Gary,congrats for your B riser;I can't read the serial#.Did you post it on the registry in the collectors' forum?Very nice to have tracks of these pieces of history
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Gary - Unless my eyes deceive me, it appears that your "B" riser serial number has a "B-0" prior to the rest of the number.
If it does, according to BowDoc, that identifies it as a very early handle made in 1969.
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It's official I will be taking my New red Stripe on the Fall Caribou hunt this year in Northern Quebec. I can't wait.
Tom
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Nice bow and great photo Gary
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Anyone in SE Wisconsin have the new Risers? I',m going to be there in a month and would like to see one. Can't even find a dealer up here.
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Tom, good luck on your hunt. I can't wait to break in my two this fall.
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Which bolt on quiver for new B-riser?
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Quiver options are a bit limited. for VPA broadheads the selection is even smaller. I like a rigid quiver but will probably put a Great Northern on mine.
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Got my bubinga A and B risers from Big Jims very nice the A is pretty close to my type 2 A the B is little slimmer in the grip area. Waiting for the limbs.Looking forward to shooting the new limbs.
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I just put my down payment and started layaway on a new red stripe with the A riser. Shot both the A and the B.... the B did feel a bit smoother, but just a bit and I really went wanting the ability for the compactness of the A, so that's what I went with!!! Now I can't wait til it's mine - get to go shoot it at the shop anytime I want though... that will help.
BTW, anybody in the Little Rock area that hasn't been to Archer's Advantage needs to go check out their traditional selection and talk to Jerrel... great guy to do business with! Tell him I sent you and maybe I'll get my bow earlier! ;)
I will repeat Blueridge's question because I'm interested as well... What bolt-on quivers are you guys using?
Thanks!
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I use Annawakee pro model and John's "A Mag " model on my A Mag
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I just bought mine in the Black Dymondwood in the "B" riser with number one limbs. The limbs are 50# and they shoot a 2016 very good. The bow is quiet and the riser is the same width as the Bubinga. Will try my best to add a Deer and maybe a Bear if I draw a tag for Bear.
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Well, I pulled the trigger yesterday and ordered one of the bubinga bows from Big Jim. I guess I'll let ya'll know after shooting it for a month or so whether I love my Bear Takedown.
Lippe
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For bolt-on quivers, I really like the Bighorn Quiver. The Bighorn is the same design as what was used by G. Fred Asbell's Bighorn bow company in the 1980s. It is sturdy, adjustable, and tough.
I have one on my 2006 wood A riser. I also have a greenstripe riser with a factory installed bolt insert where the coin would normally be placed. Since there are two bolt inserts on that riser, I have a Bighorn quiver on that too.
The Bighorn quivers are made and sold by Cutting Edge Products.
I'll see if I might have saved the contact information for them and get it posted on this thread.
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Here is the info on the Bighorn quiver source. They are great quivers for the currently made Bear TD risers and for the ones from the 2000s that 3 Rivers marketed. I recommend the longer bottom bracket to make the quiver sit at an angle.
Ron Rockwell
Cutting Edge Products, Inc.
7736 Carolyn Drive
Castle Rock, CO 80108
(303) 880-0625
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smokin joe.....can you post pictures of the quiver?
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Here is a pic of a nice little A-mag. :bigsmyl:
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg611/smokinjoepix/IMG_0040.jpg)
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Just got a set of factory limbs from Big Jim. Excellent service! Workmanship of limbs so-so. Shoots good tho.Here is a pix of a quiver I modified last week, but planning to change it some already.
The green looks so bright. Its actually olive drab. Handle is getting a new paint job soon. Textured black.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Kagyone/IMG_0160.jpg)
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Smokinjoe where are you in NC ? The pic almost looks like the shoot in Plymouth.
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I live near Winston Salem. The shoot was at Carolina Traditional Archers (CTA). CTA has its grounds outside of Newton, not too far from Hickory.
I see you are in the wonderful Outer Banks -- a beautiful part of the state. I take it you are a Bear TD fan.
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heck yeah, I love them. Got an old one and a new one. Just put a bubinga up for sale, just doesn't fit me. If you get over this way let me know.
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Let's keep this thread up. Any new Pictures to add?
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I have a new Bubinga B and Green Stripe . Had a back operation 2 weeks ago and will post pics when I regroup.
The new B riser is a good shooter, I'm impressed with it.
The GS shoots great as well but the green tip limbs are a good bit slower, they both shoot where you look . Can't wait to break them in this fall.
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I like to shot Rose Oak limbs out of mine Green Stripe!
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I got my new bubinga "A" riser bow today from Big Jim. Put it together using an SBD string that was made for my Brack Quest. My first shot with it - hey, that was quiet! It shoots a nice arrow, actually shoots nice arrows as I ran some 55-60 spined woodies thru it, then some Beman MFX 500s, some Legacy 2016s, a couple of A.D. trad lites, and finally some Heritage 150s. All flew o.k. to excellent with the bow braced at 8-3/8ths. I'll be playing around and tuning it for the next few days. Took a good look at it and seems to have good workmanship throughout. I'll let ya'll know if I get to lovin it, right now I only like it. Alot.
Lippe
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Lippe, I had pretty much the same experience .
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I took my new Red Stripe to club yesterday and I think I helped Bear sell two more.
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I really like the BEAR takedowns I own. Very well designed. I like the ability to change limb weight or change risers. Lots of veriables to fit your situation. Did I say how well they shoot for me. :bigsmyl: :bigsmyl:
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O.K. guys, my new bow developed a clicking noise when I draw it back, not every time, but 90% of the time. I took the limbs off and swapped the locator screws - didn't help. Put a dab of vaseline in the bushing - didn't help. Thought about removing the screws completely, but figure they are there for a reason especially with brass bushings to ensure a close fit. What else should I try?
Lippe
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Put some leather dressing on the little pads on the latches. I use pitch blend.
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Gun,
Yeah, I read about that, but it has a metallic sound, so I don't think that's it. But it's easy enough to do so I'll try that. Thanks.
Lippe
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I've been thinking about picking up one of these as I really like the tool-less design, looks very simple. Although I do kind of worry about longevity of the system. I know there are models 20+ years old still kicking but I assume there is a certain amount of upkeep associated with the limb holding system? are they worth it if you're not a hardcore Bear fan? I mean for the cost it seems like you're getting into custom bow territory...?
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The latch system on my A-mag takedowns is 40 years old and still perfect. The latches on my Greenstripe are 30 years old and still good. Just keep them clean.
I was just shooting my A-wood 2006 with #3 RoseOak 53# at 29" limbs today. That combination makes a 60 inch bow. It has an SBD string and shoots a 500gr carbon arrow. Great combination.
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So much great info on these awesome bows guys....
I didn't know that this thread would make 2 pages let alone 17. That's great.
Just something about that bow hooked me. I have never seen one in person or handled one, just seen it in a Bear catalog many years ago and it stuck. I've wanted one ever since.
Instead of trying to shake it, because I can't afford one right now, I just go with it and tell myself that one day I'll have one of my own and I'll be chasing Texas hogs with it.
The only thing that could make this thread any better would of course be.......MORE PICTURES!!!
Look out Hill Boys....we're right behind ya! :)
Thanks everyone.
Nalajr
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Only about 500 pages short haha!
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At a shoot last summer with my two kids. Two Bear B Mags and a B Wood 3R Riser.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1335702067.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1335702067.jpg)
NOTE: The "extra" bow belongs to the camera-mom!
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Now I'm REALLY BUMMED out!
BOTH of your KIDS are sporting Bear TD's and I ain't even close to getting one yet. Do you realize the state of depression you have now put me in for the remainder of the day?
Seriously, congrats on having kids that you can give a bow to and go shooting with them. You've got it figured out I believe. Thanks for the pic.
Likin' this thread more and more.
Nalajr
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A person can pick up a B Mag and sometimes an A mag for as little as $200-250. Less if it needs a bit of cleanup and painting. A pair of Bear limbs can be had for $175 or so depending upon condition.
I bought a new in the box A mag for $350 about 2 years ago.
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I got a bear A riser from a fellow tradganger i cant remember his name,got some limbs from Jim Gainey of Black Creek bows. I am sold on Bear take down bows. It shoots as good as any custom bow I got.I love it,i will be hunting with it this fall.Wish i had got one years ago when i got started in shooting trad.
I want another one!
Randy
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Thanks everyone for sharing those nice Bear TDs. I enjoy looking. :clapper: :clapper:
Frank
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Supreme A TD with Rose Oak limbs....
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1335903790.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1335903790.jpg)
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Here is some pics from the last few weeks , putting the Brown riser away for a while now. Have a bear hunt at the end of the month and think Im gona get out one of my Green stripes for that hunt....
,,,,,,Sam,,,,,,
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/860e7a67.jpg)
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John,congrats for your family group,all lefties too!
I like that A Supreme. :thumbsup:
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Nala I just saw where you are located , I work in Houston my fire station is off 290 and Gessner. If you ever want to try a Bear TD let me know I have a few of em.....
,,,,Sam,,,,
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This thread needs to stop NOW!! I cannot afford another bow... You guys are such great influences
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Here is a photo of my 2006 A-riser. It is set up with Rose Oak limbs and an SBD string. It is 53# at 29" and is very fast, smooth and stable.
It is one of the "Three Bears" -- the three bear TDs that I have set up, tuned and always ready to use.
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg611/smokinjoepix/IMG_0046.jpg)
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That Supreme was nice. I sure would love to see them come back.
Tom
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Originally posted by tomwatson:
That Supreme was nice. I sure would love to see them come back.
Tom
I agree!! Would love to see the Bear Custom Shop return with "special order" TD's being made available. Would gladly pay for something that would be uniquely mine.
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How long did they make the Supremes? I don't ever see too many of them.
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I guess for 2-3 years.The B was standard and the A a special order.
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(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/COVEJEEPSXJ/ZebraA002.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/COVEJEEPSXJ/ZebraA004.jpg)
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b14/COVEJEEPSXJ/ZebraA007.jpg)
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That's the one I had in mind! Thanks for "killing" me with that one Nick!!
Had to dig up a pic of the serial # for my Supreme A riser:
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1336428784.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1336428784.jpg)
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John, Thats awesome! Thanks for posting that pic!
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John,you did good buying that rare A Supreme!
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Nice pictures fellows.
Shick
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Don't care much for the compasses, but those are some nice looking risers!!!
Patiently waiting for them to change the red stripe to something else.
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jcar315,
Let's see a photo of that entire riser, please. The close up makes it look like it is probably a very beautiful combination of woods.
Joe
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Gun have you put your hands on the Bubinga riser, pretty nice and is reminiscent if I am correct of the first B riser (no.1) that was created by Bear.
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Just got back from Wisconsin Tom. Couldn't find one at any dealers to even look at. Maybe someone will have one at our provincial Trad shoot in August.
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In a ground blind here in MD this past deer season.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1336696184.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1336696184.jpg)
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Being a recent fan of bear td's I got a couple magnesium risers, an a and a b. They are a lot of fun. But then I got a new red stripe bubinga b riser, using older red tip limbs #3 at 43#. It shoots very sweet. And man what a difference 3/16 makes to brace height! I was shooting just under 8 brace and went to 8 1/4 and wow. I love it.
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Series1 "A" riser with Chastain Wapiti Limbs
(http://i48.tinypic.com/j7dq9z.jpg)
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dabprice,can you make a fast review on those limbs?
Very nice signed handle.
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Cacciatore-
I hope this may help you:
Wapiti bows and limbs are made by Keith Chastain in Colorado. His bows are known for their speed and smoothness especially at longer draw lengths.
The tight radius recurve tip on the Chastain Wapiti bows derives from the bows made by Jean Louthan in the (circa) 1950’s and from the “fish hook” recurve tips that were made by Frank Eicholtz. The idea is to try to make a limb smoother drawing by making the recurve open up later in the draw, which a tight radius recurve and a longer limb will do.
The sleight “wavy-limb” profile in a Chastain limb is an application of the limb designs made by Bill Stewart in his Multi-Cam bows. The idea is that the “wave” or “cam” in a longer limb and the tight radius recurve will cause the bow to break over similar to a compound bow, especially at longer draw lengths.
The limbs on my Bear T/D bows are all made by Chastain. I find them superior to the newer Bear T/D limbs. I've been shooting Bear bows for decades both one piece and T/D's and while I think the shooting characteristics of the older one piece 60" + bows are excellent, I have never really liked the feel of the T/D limbs. I can't objectively comment on the new new one piece bows, as I don't own any.
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Thanks for your review.
I know Keith personally,but I have never tryed his aftermarket limbs for the Bear TD,I had some of his bows though.
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Cacciatore-
I believe that the fact that Keith actually can do about anything bow related is an "unadvertised special". He has made aftermarket limbs for quite some time.
By the way, do you like his bows??
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I send you a PM.
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Felix
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My friend just received his new Bubinga T/D. He went out and ordered it after shooting my Red Stripe.
Tom
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Just received a new set of limbs for my B-Red Stripe. 3rivers sent me a set of 53lb limbs when I ordered 55lb. I can see how the mistake was made. The limbs were 55lb on an A riser, 53lb on a B. A quick email and they have pulled the correct set and will swap them out with me ASAP. 3Rivers takes care of their customers.
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Congrats on the turkey (Trad #55?? right?) and piggies Sam!!!
Nala,
Stay away from Sam! He will infect you with the Fred Bear Bug!! :) LOL!! Seriously, you should take Sam up on his offer. He's a great guy and will help you out lots!! I caught Bear-itus from him, but don't regret it one bit!! :)
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(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/crabman1957/IMG_3717.jpg)
Here's a couple of mine.
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What with the Bubinga riser on the bottom? Is that a prototype or something they are looking at bringing out? It looks GREAT!
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I just got some Border Hex ^ limbs for my B Bear riser and they were a lot faster than my red tip limbs. All the below info is @28" draw, 440gr arrow. same shooter, same chronograph, same day.
Hex 6 48lb compared to red tip 47lb..Hex 6's 11fps faster
Hex 6 48lb compared to red tip's 56lb... same speed
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Craig, I don't really care for the camo riser, but the one on the bottom looks great.
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Originally posted by Craig/FL:
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/crabman1957/IMG_3717.jpg)
Here's a couple of mine.
Craig, Post some more pics of the Bubinga Handle!!!!
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Come on Craig, you can't post a pic like that and not say something about it. I was hoping they would do a two tone riser.
Let us in on it.
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Originally posted by OBXarcher:
Come on Craig, you can't post a pic like that and not say something about it. I was hoping they would do a two tone riser.
Let us in on it.
X2
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I agree.
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Originally posted by Craig/FL:
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll179/crabman1957/IMG_3717.jpg)
Here's a couple of mine.
Might be my eyes but do the shelfs on these two look just a bit lower?
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No, I wuld say that the top one is a Red Stripe with the camo dip and the bottom one is the standard shelf on the bubinga model. I love the two tone.
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My either late 1983 or early 1984 #55 green stripe. Shoots great and love it!
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee381/BrownC53/2011-09-22_11-02-33_267.jpg)
Sorry I don't have a "action" pic!
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Cedar sure goes nice with Bubinga. this is my new best Pal.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1338064807.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1338064807.jpg)
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1338064876.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1338064876.jpg)
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1338064940.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1338064940.jpg)
hopefully it will look even better with a little Wyo moose blood on it this fall.
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Out with it Craig, is that the black cap bubinga riser that has been rumored to be in the works??
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Tom hit the nail on the head, the camo is a red stripe that had a cosmetic flaw so I dipped it,its turned into my go to hunting bow as it's a great shooter.
I just finished up the Bubinga/Ebony riser last week. we had a small piece of Ebony laying around so we made a couple of risers out of it. We're thinking of making a Bubinga with black dymondwood caps for 2013, we made a few prototypes and they look nice. we may take them to a few shows this summer to get folks opinions on them.
Both of the risers in the pic have the same cut shelves as the standard one do.
JB, those limbs look great on that Big Jim Bubinga riser.
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Great re-reading on Memorial Day. Don't know how I missed it the 1st time through but the link to the article about Bear was very interesting.
Thanks Craig for the info on your two handles. Are you going to be at Denton Hill this year with the prototypes?
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With all of these new T/D's I am not sure what I will do. I love my Red Stripe. I picked up a new set of 53lb limbs and matched some 2117 Easton Legacy shafts to it, and it is shooting great. I'm not sure I could cheat on it with a blackcap Bubinga.
Tom
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Black Capped Bubinga!!!!!!!!
Oh my ----- that is sooooo tempting -- Though I don't NEED another Beat TD riser. If it ends up looking anything like the bubinga/ebony it will be beautiful.
:clapper: :clapper: :clapper:
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I can't remember if I posted a photo earlier of my Bear TD or not, so here it is in case I didn't. Number B-01630.
(Note: Press your F5 key to refresh the page if the photo fails to download.)
(http://logsdonstudios.com/BearTD2.jpg)
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Gary love that picture!
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hey fellow takedown fans! I'm really enjoying shooting my new red stripe. having an issue with the compass though and wondered if anyone else experienced it and had any suggestions... the thing rattles on every shot! I have singled it out as the compass and even the slightest thump produces the chatter. so... anyone else experience this? I'm not partial to the compass if removing it is the only suggestion, but what to put in its place?
also, going to be putting some cottonmouth skins on the limbs soon... can't wait to show everyone! I think it will look pretty sweet!
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I would try to replace it. Mine rattles if I shake the bow, but when I shoot it, I don't hear a thing.
Tom
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I love this thread; some great bows out there; here are some of my Bears
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Originally posted by Bowboy_AR:
hey fellow takedown fans! I'm really enjoying shooting my new red stripe. having an issue with the compass though and wondered if anyone else experienced it and had any suggestions... the thing rattles on every shot! I have singled it out as the compass and even the slightest thump produces the chatter. so... anyone else experience this? I'm not partial to the compass if removing it is the only suggestion, but what to put in its place?
Originally posted by tomwatson:
I would try to replace it. Mine rattles if I shake the bow, but when I shoot it, I don't hear a thing.
Tom
Thanks, Tom! Anybody else? Anyone pulled the compass out and put something nifty in it's place?
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I would go with another compass. I am not sure if you could find any diamond wood filler and have it refinished without the compass.
Tom
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I can't even begin to count the number of hours I've spent looking at that compass in my Bear TD's......I'll admit to finding them quite interesting / entertaining during a hunt.
Can't think where but I've seen replacement compasses someplace.
A nice eating spike with a nice Black & Tan Bear TD
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1338945752.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1338945752.jpg)
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I've obtained replacement compasses directly from Bear. In fact I had a compass put in my Schafer Silvertip.
I love them and I don't hear anything from mine. Of course my wife says there are a lot of things I don't hear.
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My first Green Stripe along with my first set of Rose Oak limbs.....interesting to go through some of these older pictures.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1338946604.jpg) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1338946604.jpg)
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The last I looked, 3-Rivers had the small compass to put in risers.
Lots of nice Bears here, thanks for sharing.
Frank
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I've been wanting to get my hands on this bow for 1.5 years. It arrived today for a "test drive".
This is a Bear Signature built by a retired employee without the gold plating. It is beautiful rosewood. The limbs come in at 46#@26"-probably 52@28" but I haven't checked that draw length.
This is a Type 1 B Riser.
The limbs make a 60" bow on this B Riser.
I put the very heavy dacron string that was sent with it on the bow. No silencers. It is 8 3/4" brace height. I put painters tape for a nock locator by eyeball. It is less than 1/2" which I'm sure is too low.
I am SHOCKED how quiet this bow is without silencers. It makes a loud twang when you strum the string so I figured it would be a noisy bow. It is very quiet, more so than some bows I have cat whiskers on? Reckon I got lucky with the brace height?
It has a narrow grip (less than 5") and you can see from the pictures the shelf is right on top of the hand.
I shot a purty little group the first time i shot it.
I haven't decided if this bow will remain with me or not yet.
Sorry about the side-ways pictures. I saved them in the upright position but the wonderful Photo Bucket turned em over.
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/FullBowonPost.jpg)
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WOW! That is a beauty of a bow. Enjoy it to its fullest.
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Great Lookin' bow Roy!!
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Stunning Roy!
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Yeah no doubt....that is a stunner for sure.
If you don't mind me asking....about what would that bow cost if you were to keep it? It's WAY out of my price range right now, but one day I'll have me one of these bows.
Thanks for posting it.
Nalajr
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"This is a Type 1 B Riser... It has a narrow grip (less than 5") and you can see from the pictures the shelf is right on top of the hand."
Actually, I believe this describes a Type 2 riser. Type 1's had generally larger grips and had longer shelves and the bowhand would generally sit a good 1/4" to 3/8" further below the shelf.
Beautiful bow, in any case.
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Thanks David.
I talked to the son this morning and found out a bit more.
The bow was custom built by and for the bowyer (I'm glad he is a lefty!) around 1995. So I'm sure you are correct. I haven't seen a Type A Riser since I sold one around 1995 because it was RH and I switched to LH.
The limb tips are FF compatible as well.
I'm going to find out more tonight when I talk to the bowyer. I'm hoping to find out that it is NOT 1 of 4 ever made this way so this retired biologist can afford it!
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An "A" riser simply has a shorter sight window than a "B" riser. A "B" riser is a couple of inches longer overall than an "A" riser.
This is different than the Type 1 and 2 designation, more often referred to as "Series 1 and 2" to avoid any confusion.
As I understand it, the Series 2 grip was the preferred grip of Mr Bear who liked a narrower grip and a shorter shelf that sat closer to the top of his bowhand. It showed up within a year or so of the introduction of the Series 1.
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Sorry David. I confused Type 1 with Type A.
I have or have had A and B risers in several Bear TD models. I prefer the A risers in most of the TD models. In fact, I had a Supreme built at the factory in an A Riser after I bought the B.
I do appreciate you pointing out the Series 1 and 2 description though. I had only heard that referred to as Type 1 or ...something after the first Custom Kodiak TDS.
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Wow, I just have to keep coming back to see the new ones added to the thread. :goldtooth: Maybe someday I'll be able to get one. ;)
Frank
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There is a rumor going around that the new Red Stripes are being built with the slim profile as the Bubingas. Is there any truth to this? I love the grip on my Red Stripe. It was built in 2011 and is a bit thicker than the Bubinga.
Tom
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Tom,
I've seen that trend in the Red Stripes... I have a buddy that has #69... mine is #121... and mine is thinnner than his... I've held others even thinner than mine... I like the little thicker grip... all personal...
Jonathan
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My New Green Stripe (from the late Al Reader collection) and a early A-Mag
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Wow, it is amazing to see the different sizes of some of those risers!
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Jonathan, I thought that I would like the thinner Bubinga handle, but after shooting it I prefer the Red Stripe more. Also, the added weight helps keep my bow more stable.
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The thread has gotten quite as quiet as of late. Anyone been out shooting there T/D's.
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Just shot my greenstripe this morning.
Here are the specs:
riser: early greenstripe Bear TD
bow quiver: Bighorn
limbs: Rose Oak #1 -- 51# at 29"
string: SBD 6-strand
arrow: 517 gr Traditional Only carbon
Getting my eye tuned up for deer season. Arrows are tuned, bow is in great shape. The season will be here before you know it.
There is a photo of me shooting the greenstripe somewhere earlier in this thread. I also posted photos of two of my other Bear TDs.
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Got 2 green stripes enroute. Will get pics up soon.
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Love my GreenStripe this is my newest one it is
60# @28 , about 65# at my 30in draw , got an old bear 4 arrow quiver and it shoots like a dream.
Killed this bear with it a few weeks ago.....
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/Bearhunt2012meandFelix059.jpg)
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/Bearhunt2012meandFelix027.jpg)
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Sam,
I saw your post and story about the bear hunt. Very well done.
:noteworthy:
Those green stripes have some good mojo, don't they?
Great photos, by the way.
Joe
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Sam are you shooting #1 or #3 limbs for your 30 inch draw ?
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Congrats Sam on your bear.
Great pics too!!
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Im shooting #1 limbs on my bears because thats all I have ,like 10 sets of em, well I have one set of #3 but they are 40# so I dont ever shoot em. I need to buy some #3 limbs and try em out............
,,,Sam,,,,,
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Gotcha. Once I tried the #3's I really liked them. I draw 30 also and they are much smoother.
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Just added another LH B-Riser to the bow rack..
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Those two tones are looking good. I think I may need one on the rack soon. Just not sure if it should be an A or B
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Why not one of each -- you would have twice the fun.
I have an A "black and tan" and I like the way it feels and shoots with Rose Oak #3 limbs. It makes a smooth 60" bow. At 53 pounds it it substantially faster than my Grayling 60# limbs were.
Here it is:
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg611/smokinjoepix/IMG_0046.jpg)
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here's the rack so far. Have another green stripe waiting on me when I get back to SC.
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/OBXarcher/Bears.jpg)
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I shot Bowdocs 1970 TD, wow, what a smooth shooter. I might have to get me one!!
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I am going to have to stop looking at this thread,
Had a heart breaker this weekend....I have been eagerly awaiting my new bb2 hex 6 limbs to go with my black and tan 'A' riser.
I was up at the factory and we tried the new limbs in the riser, everything looked great until we drew the bow and let down, only to find out that the string didn't track back into the grooves. Upon inspection we discoverd that my riser limb pockets are out of twist, riser is shot, so cant shoot the new limbs from it.
Called bear but they don't do repairs.
still reeling, :-(......,do I try and sell the limbs or wait to see what comes up?, not too keen on the new risers.
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Just send them to me and I will put them to good use , sorry to hear that man.......
,,,,,,Sam,,,,,,,
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Andrea,I am sorr to ear this,I know how much you wait ed tosse limbo!!
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Just have to wait and see what turns up, you never know, might end up with a better riser one day to use with the new limbs.
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Wolfkiss, you may want to give Bowdoc a call. He may be able to fix it.
Tom
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I have never shot the Bear take down. Is there a difference between an old TD compared to a new TD. Thank you.
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Here's a trio which shows (left to right) the 2011 dymondwood red striper, the 2012 bubinga, and a green striper from the 80's.
The grip on my bubinga is thinner/narrower and similar to the 80's takedown. The 2011 model I have has a thicker grip, but I find they all shoot very well for me and I find it tough to pick a favorite.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1340932175.JPG) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1340932175.JPG)
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Here's another view of the difference in the 2011 and 2012.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1340932591.JPG) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1340932591.JPG)
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Awesome Lon. Glad to see you have been bitten!!! :D
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...and then the same bows with the greenstriper on the right...
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1340932710.JPG) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1340932710.JPG)
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I keep getting bitten by all sorts of critters it seems. :dunno:
BTW Nick, your trio of mag risers almost bit me, but someone saved me at the last minute. :D
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HAHAHA.
I tend to be a bad influence!!!
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These Bear TD risers have certainly taken me by surprise and what a way to go. (http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/massaro-60/P1010531.jpg)
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I finally shot a Bear TD today. I am a dyed in the wool LB shooter, but let me tell you , I may have to own one eventually . Aside from the nostalgia aspect of it, the bow is dead in the hand and just feels phenomenal. The one I shot had a very narrow grip and just fell into the hand. BUT comming from straight limbed and mild D/R LBs the noise that recurves make is way more than I am used to. Even when guys are shooting their personal bows and have them quieted down good, the noise from recurves is something that turns me away. BUT the TD just felt right.
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Picked up an early A-Mag riser a while back that was completely spray bomb green..thought I would spruce it up today before putting on the 45# number 3 limbs,figured I can always repaint it a solid color later.
(http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u322/0710point/bear%20takedown/IMG_3144.jpg)
(http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u322/0710point/bear%20takedown/IMG_3141.jpg)
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That's cool Roy!
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I think FUNKY is the word for it!
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I am sitting in a tree right now waiting on pigs with my 71 and a quiver full of razorheads.Have a bright moon overhead and a clear sky , and a nice cool breeze.So in other words with everything being this nice i aint gona see poop. Its just nice to be in the woods with my birth year Bear T\\D.......
,,,,,,Sam,,,,,,,
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You put some time into that A mag 450 marlin. Cool.
Go get em Sam, I am sure with your track record you will put some blood on the ground!
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Well Sam how'd ya do ?
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Roy - neat and unique job you did on that mag handle!
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I like it Roy,maybe just a little more yellow. ;) :cool:
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Just woke up , I was in the stand til 4 a.m. only saw 4 hogs with no shots. Will get after them again this week , I just got in a set of Schafer limbs and need to figure out what riser to put them on today.Once I get that done and shooting good thats what Im gona bust a hog with this week ( or miss a hog with this week )..........
,,,,,Sam,,,,,
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Roy, what is that cocobolo, osage orange, and bubinga? :goldtooth: Nice job!
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I really liked the Terra Cotta Clay color...so back to the shop I went...now I really like the color..
(http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u322/0710point/bear%20takedown/IMG_3160.jpg)
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Works for me too. :cool:
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Thought I'd show my cure for the small bubinga grip. A beaver tail wrap by Big Jim.
(http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii322/Blackstick-photos/Bows/Bear%20Takedowns/Bear%202012%20%20B%20%20Handle/2012RedHandle1.jpg)
(http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii322/Blackstick-photos/Bows/Bear%20Takedowns/Bear%202012%20%20B%20%20Handle/2012RedHandle2.jpg)
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Bought some Schafer limbs from OldSkoolArcher here in the Im always broke cause I buy so much stuff in the TradGang classifieds.I have done many deals with Nick and as always straight up guy great to deal with.The Schafer limbs made my B-Risers a 64in bow and are 51# @30 , I had them a few days and havent even had a string on them for 24 hours and they made a kill.I put them on a I think a early 2000 riser and like I say they sure look and shoot nice , Im shooting a 31in GoldTip 75/95 with three
5 1/2in feathers they come in at 590gr ( going to order some 100 brass inserts and see what 690gr shoots like ) this may be my new elk set-up.....
,,,,,,,Sam,,,,,,
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/1f7defcf.jpg)
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Blackstick, I may have to do that to my new a riser. I hate to sell it so soon and that may be a good way to make it work.
Sam, nice work on the pig. Not a bad way to break in a bow at all. Sure beats shooting bails.
Dan
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WOW Sam. Now that didn't take long!!! That is awesome. I was going to PM you and ask you how you liked them but I guess your picture just answered that question! Congrats.
Also, Please post some pictures of your handle. If it doesn't have a stripe it is a '97 or '98. (I can't remember exactly). To the best of my knowledge, the all blonde no-striper was only made one year.
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Congrats Sam!!
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As a soon to be new owner of an Type 1 A-Riser I was really happy to see this thread is still alive and well.
As weird as it may seem to some I feel lucky and truly honored to get the chance to have such a piece of Bear archery history.
I am more excited about shooting and hunting with this bow than any of the custom bows I have had built for me over the years!
Thanks to all of you who have taken the time to post about your experiences with these bows and especially to those of you who have taken the time to email me in regards to the questions I've had!
Sam - you are a real inspiration to me - having seen all the animals you have taken with your Bear Takedowns.
I feel like I've joined a brotherhood of great people who feel the same way I do about Papa Bear's legacy.
I look forward to adding to this thread in the future!
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Will get more pics up of the riser later in the week Im at work now and wont be home for several days.
TBinMn , Im just ate-up with the Bear TakeDowns and love hunting , my job and wife are the best in the world.With my time I get off work and a wife that likes to see me happy , only thing thats gona stop me is death. I have some great hunts for the up and comming years.
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Had Jim Raine make a string for my Green Stripe B-Riser..he hit the nail on the head..awesome colors
(http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u322/0710point/bear%20takedown/IMG_3210.jpg)
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Bump, would like to see more pics and thoughts on these bows.
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Yeah me too....
Nalajr
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How 'bout some more photos!\\
:archer: :archer2: :deadhorse:
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I posted these pics on the collector forum last night but since you ask for pics I'll post them here. Hope that's ok.
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/takedown11.jpg)
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/takedown12.jpg)
Mag risers powder coated
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/takedown10.jpg)
2 early green strips and one late 80's
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/takedown9.jpg)
2010 and 2008(ser#001)
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(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/takedown7.jpg)
Early B & A
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/takedown8.jpg)
with buckles I traded for at Cloverdale
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finished up putting some cottonmouth skins on my red stripe a few weeks ago, but just got around to shooting some pics. I love how it turned out.... think the colors are perfect! it was my first time to put skins on... process was really pretty simple. it's just really hard to take that first stroke with the sandpaper to those expensive limbs. anyway... i love it! I can't wait to go hunting this fall!!!
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o553/jtlup/Bows/2b0161dc.jpg)
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o553/jtlup/Bows/106a969f.jpg)
(http://i1147.photobucket.com/albums/o553/jtlup/Bows/5e38893b.jpg)
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(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/CIMG0005.jpg)
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/CIMG0007.jpg)
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/CIMG0006.jpg)
Playing around and built a box for the A
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/takedown1.jpg)
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/Redtail59/takedown4.jpg)
then built one for the B
I enjoy shooting these, have traded and sold alot of other toys to enjoy these. They all shoot about the same for me and a go to the woods. Thanks
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bowboy that looks great. Have a set of #1s that I have taken off the red tips and put phenolic on. Getting ready to add snake skins. excellent look!
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thanks redtail! your collection is amazing! I would like to add a B Mag TD to my Bear collection: the A red stripe shown and a '66 Kodiak. Great bows!
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How about a set of red stripe custom #2 limbs of my making?
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/inrutelk/Redstripe.jpg)
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/inrutelk/Redstripe2.jpg)
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How about clear glass #1 limbs with Cedar veneers over Maple cores with Macassar Ebony fadeouts?
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/inrutelk/DSC01023.jpg)
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Had one. Loved it. Sold it. Kick myself everyday because I did.
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Inrut, I have seen your limbs on Jon Talbot's bow. They are beautiful. I really like the cedar pair your showing above. Great job!
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LORD have mercy, you guys are KILLING ME. Really gorgeous stuff on this page, thanks for posting them.
Gonna have to copy them to my hard drive for sure.
Nalajr
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Inrut those cedar limbs are awesome!!
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WOW! :clapper:
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Thanks for posting the photos (Redtail2,Bowboy_AR and inrut). :archer:
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Lots more rare TD Bows on the History Forum..: Bear T/D HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Blackhawk:
Here's a trio which shows (left to right) the 2011 dymondwood red striper, the 2012 bubinga, and a green striper from the 80's.
The grip on my bubinga is thinner/narrower and similar to the 80's takedown. The 2011 model I have has a thicker grip, but I find they all shoot very well for me and I find it tough to pick a favorite.
(http://images.imagelinky.com/1340932175.JPG) (http://images.imagelinky.com/1340932175.JPG)
Nice collection Lon.
I'm fond of the red stripe models myself and I recommend them all the time.
Your Bubinga version has some nice grain in the wood.
Enjoy them!
...........Philip
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The bow on the far right? What year is that? How do I know what year a TD is. ? I'm looking at a green stripe around me and it's handle is thin and not too deep. Very very comfortable, not too high a wrist, all things I love. Just wondering a year. It looks like the one on the far right
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The one on the far right in the photo looks to me like the laminated greenstripe risers of the later 1980s. You can see the layers of wood that indicate the laminations. The risers from the early 1980s did not have that.
In my opinion, all greenstripe risers are well worth getting if they are in decent condition. If it is comfortable in your hand it will make a great bow. I highly recommend Rose Oak limbs in the #1 size for the greenstripe riser.
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I know many folks favor the early green stripers, but I enjoy this later version. If it feels good, it's for you.
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Nice Pics!
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I love mine,this riser is been signed to me by Glenn St.Charles,so I am proud to take it outside.
(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/IMG_0455.jpg)
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That's an awesome picture Felix.
Very nice bow signed by the great Glenn St. Charles!
......Philip
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Originally posted by cacciatore:
I love mine,this riser is been signed to me by Glenn St.Charles,so I am proud to take it outside.
(http://i765.photobucket.com/albums/xx293/dazzafelix/IMG_0455.jpg)
Awesome pic Felix! Bear TD's in those kind of pictures are my favorite way of seeing them.
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Fantastic Felix, congratulations on another fine Beast! ....and what a Bow to take it with.
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Bow looks great. My 2011 Red Stripe is shooting like a champ.
Tom
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My bow is tuned and ready for Quebec in September. I hope the new Bear TD can connect with a nice caribou.
Tom
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Just added this to my takedown stable at Denton Hill.
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w320/Raineman71/A1879-1-1.jpg)
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w320/Raineman71/MyA.jpg)
I'll try and post a pic of the rest of the takedowns later.
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Nice one Jim!
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Looks like a Type 1.
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wow nice,
another reason I wished I could have gone.
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Thanks Felix.
Yes, its a Type I.
OBX...you wouldn't have seen it, it wasn't on the blankets. I have been working on "procuring" this particular one for over a year. Finally got the deal done, but it was pretty "hush, hush".
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Sweet I just got a new to me Type 1 also , and also this new one , Big Jim Bubinga , its a killer.....
,,,,Sam,,,,
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/Headshothog012.jpg)
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/Headshothog018.jpg)
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/Headshothog020.jpg)
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Nice Pics.
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Raineman you underestimate my "senses". LOL If there was one at Denton for possible sale I would have been drawn to it, like bees to honey,
Just kidding, congrats on getting one. the harder the find the sweeter the reward.
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Well the new Bubinga strikes again........
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/Moonlighthog005.jpg)
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Bought a Green Stripe "B" riser with type 3 , 48# limbs from a friend this weekend. It shoots nice and is fairly quiet.
It makes a click during draw, but prior to full draw. Got any suggestions? :dunno:
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Try putting some string wax on the little leather tab on the latches. My "A" Bubinga did that same thing.
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The Bubinga has struck again......
,,Sam,,,
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/8-5-12hogkill004.jpg)
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Very nice!
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Pork! it's whats for dinner. Nice shooting.
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TTT for more great pics
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Sam, you need to get that Type 1 into the mix. Fred made those bows to hunt, not collect dust. :)
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Well I'm going back to my root ! Pull out my bear t/d and tune it up today . Love the B handle it 53 @ 28 shooting aixs 400 with a 100 gr bass instert with a 145 tips . And the best part is that my dad bought this bow for me 30 + years ago I have shot it off and on , but now I'm going to sale my other bows and just stay with my bear t/d .
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Good for you!!!
Love them Bear TDs.
Randy
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I've always thought they were the best looking T.D. made. I just got a new one this past Friday. It has 70# limbs and I took it out Saturday morning and shot a 240 with it on a 3-D course shooting the hunter stakes. Man I'm glad I got one finally!
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No matter what anyone says. The new Bear TD's are quality bows that shoot very well. Yes, they may have had some problems, but I believe that these will go away in the next couple of years. Bear has really been paying attention to the Traditional Bowhunter as of late. I have a 2011 Red Stripe and it shoots great. My friend has a new Bubinga and loves it. I have another friend who has had issues with a cracked riser, but Bear customer service took care of him each time. He now has a sweet shooting Red Stripe as well.
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did a little tuning / shooting last night. Got her pretty good, last two at 30yds, (no they are not all like this) one field point one BH.
(http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/OBXarcher/photo3.jpg)
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Someday I will shoot that good at 30 yds :rolleyes: .
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Trust me they are not all like that. I sure wish there where though.
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I have had my new Bubinga Bear TD for about a week now. No problems of any kind, very quite, shoots were you point and is a beautiful bow.
My biggest surprise was the performance.
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They sure are shooters.
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My Bubinga is doing well for me also , hope it likes elk flesh as much as it does hog....
,,,Sam,,,
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/BIGKERRBOAR001.jpg)
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac45/samstephens71/BIGKERRBOAR006.jpg)
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Earlier today I had this big brown truck interrupt me while I was doing my outside chores. He dropped off a box that had "BEAR" stenciled on the side of it.
Seems the guys in Fla. finally decided to ship my new Bubinga handle "B" riser take down bow. I just got finished putting it together and playing with it some. Fit and finish are on a par with any custom bow I have ever gotten in, the Bubinga is beautiful, nice skinny limb tips.... all in all one of the nicest bows I have ever gotten in and without a doubt, the prettiest bow Bear Archery has ever made in my opinion. Looking forward to setting it up and playing with it some over the next couple of days.
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Up for more T/D pics
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Here is a photo of my "A" riser with 54 pound #3 limbs. It was looking a little rough when I got it so I spent some time with it with some polishing compound and a soft cloth. Came out looking pretty good.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010144-1.jpg)
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A couple more photos...
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010145.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010146-1.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010147-1.jpg)
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Lookin' good, R.V.
Shick
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WOW! Just beautiful.
One of these days....
Nalajr
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Hey all,
Which one of the TD's would be the least expensive to pick up used? Lets say I want an A handle and whatever limbs make a 60 inch or so bow and 45 pound draw.
I would take a MAG riser, but would prefer the usual Bear TD.
Just so I can maybe start putting some money back for the time I can get one.
Does anyone have pics of ALL different color schemes on the Bear TD over the years? That would be awesome to see.
Thanks
Nalajr
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Get a new bubinga model. A or B
$819
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Nala,the A riser can be found only in the first original models and then in the late 90's with the Brown Stipe,or the newer Red Stripe and Bubinga.I think the Bubinga is pretty attractive,well done,from what I hear here,and right priced,plus you can have the poundage that you like.
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The most thrifty combination would be a magnesium TD riser and some red tip Grayling limbs. You will get a lot more performance for a few extra bucks if you get a set of Bear fast flight limbs. The Rose Oak limbs are even more expensive and smokin fast.
The red stripe and bubinga models are 819 for a complete bow. You can pick up an A-mag (that needs refinishing) and used limbs for about half that or a touch more.
I have 3 TDs set up now and one is an A-mag with modern fast flight Bear limbs. It is a very sweet bow.
You can't go wrong with any combination.
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I really really like wood handles but I shoot Mag handles best....
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Here are a couple of photos of my 2011 Red Stripe with black diamond wood riser. "B" riser with 55 pound #1 limbs.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010148-2.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010150-1.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010152-1.jpg)
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Here are some photos of my brand new 2012 Bubinga takedown..."B" riser with 50 pound #1 limbs. An absolutley gorgeous piece of wood in the riser and the fit and finish of this bow are on a par with most any custom I have had in my hands over the years. A near perfect grip and in my opinion, this is one of the prettiest bows Bear has turned out.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010153-1.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010154-1.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010155-1.jpg)
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010156-1.jpg)
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I got a new Bubinga "A" riser with #1 limbs about 3 weeks ago. This bow is a real keeper, out performs other custom bows that I have had. I see no reason to look for custom limbs. Fits great in the hand and is quite. Don't have any pictures but it pretty much looks like the one R.V.T.B. just posted. The workmanship is great, no lines or faults of any kind and I looked at it under my fly tying glass.
I also got the Bear quiver, which I am not as impressed with. It is ok but does make some noise, on another post Charlie L suggested wrapping yarn on it and that did remove the noise.
By-the-way, the compass is no joke it works very nice and is always right there when you want to look.
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I am using the GFA quiver from Kustom King on mine. About the same price as the Bear quiver and built the same. But, is has a wool cover over the hood and has rubber bushings/washers under the bolts that connect it to the riser. Very satble and quiet as well as very good looking.
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please remove this post.
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Green tip limbs were made in 1 length making a 60" bow on a B riser.
I can help you with a longer set of limbs.
Pm me at your convenience and congratulations on your signed bow!
......Philip
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This has been a great thread about our great Bear TD bows. I have a magnesium A riser that I am refinishing and I am looking for a set of #3 Gainsville fast flight limbs at 45 pounds for it. At my draw length that should make a smooth and fast 50 pound bow.
I don't need another bow, but the project of getting this one together should be fun.
If any of you guys have a set of #3 45 lb fast flight limbs that you want to part with let me know.
Lets keep this thread going.
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'Joe, I might be able to help you out. email sent.
Shick
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This "old & new" combo is headed to a treestand in about 15 minutes. Early Mag "A" riser with BB2 HEX 6 Border limbs.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac44/hayslope1/Bows/IMG_0082_zps089927d3.jpg)
This combo shoots a 750 grain arrow with authority!
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Shick,
I sent you a return email.
Joe
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I love Super K's.I have several and they all shoot great.Recently I got a bubinga A handle T/D with #3 limbs from a fellow tradganger.Man am I happy with it!It is already my go to bow.I tend to shoot a little high with most of my bows when I "feel" like I'm pointing at my spot so I have learned to adjust for that.With the T/D,I have learned that I don't have to do that,it points naturally for me.I don't know why but I am very happy about it.
Ken
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what is the difference between the #1 AND #3 Limbs? curious about the 60" bow but theres an A riser and B riser with each type of limb which makes up 2 different 60" T/D's so whats the difference?
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A riser is short, B riser is long. #1 limbs are short, #3 limbs are long.
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so like the widows have the MA and the SA,,, in this case the B riser with the #3 limbs is the smoothest for the folks who draw slow and the A riser and the #1 limbs are for the snap shooters..
got it thanks.
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Rumor has it that Bear is bringing back the Futurewood style on the 2013 Red Stripe. I also heard that a capped riser is next.
Tom
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We will all be looking forward to seeing that, Tom.
I am getting ready to work on TD #4 -- This one will be an A-mag riser that has a lot of miles on it. I will strip it down completely and give it a face lift. Thanks to tradganger Shick I now have a pair of #3 FF limbs for it.
I refinished that riser once in 1980-something, and wore all of that paint off over the years.
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I have heard nothing but good things about Mag Risers. I have a couple of friends who swear by them as their "go to" hunting bows.
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I know I love my Type 1 A "Blondie" hope to kill a nice wild pig with her soon. 55# with #2 limbs, she came with two sets of limbs, the others are 45#.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/A-1744005.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/A-1744025.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/comanche/Bows/A-1744003.jpg)
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Sweeeeeeeeeeeet
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Congratulations Danny!
She's a real beauty and good luck hunting with her.
......Philip
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An early Left Hand B-Riser / #2 Dimpled 43# White Tip Limbs
(http://i516.photobucket.com/albums/u322/0710point/IMG_3557.jpg)
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I had to come back & look at the nice bows again. Thanks for sharing!
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Does anyone have a list of what years the Takedowns were made. As I see it, First came the Type 1, Type 2. Then, the Green Stripe in the 80's. The Brown Stripe in the 90's. The Supreme around 2009 - 2010. The Red Stripe Dymondwood in 2011, The Bubinga in 2012. Finaly, The Black Maple Red Stripe for 2013.
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It's been a little quite as of late. Let's see some 2012 harvest photos using Bear Takedowns.
Tom
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Beautiful bows!
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I just had to come back for another look....... sigh!
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TTT
Needed to look for something. This makes it easier.
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http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq253/OBXarcher/photo-4_zps4924ae63.jpg
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Nice shot.... doesn't look like you would have needed the string tracker on that one!
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Shot was angling forward, took off the top of the liver and lungs. First kill with the tree shark. They are devastating
It went about 60-70 yds. Fun as heck to watch the line going out. Have the urge to set the hook !!
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Hi everyone. Finally got my dymondwood B riser after 3 months wait and found the bow to be awesome of course. My riser looks nothing like any of the other pictures of the dymondwood red stripe though?
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu214/bah73/Bear/image-1.jpg)
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu214/bah73/Bear/image-2.jpg)
Here is a picture I found on the Internet.
(http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu214/bah73/Bear/image-1-1.jpg)
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What is the final verdict of the new Bear TD limbs?
I just aquired a nice "B"mag with 52lb limbs and at my draw want to go to a lighter limb.
Thanks
Joshua
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Cool riser Bah73.
It looks like they started using solid impregnated maple again (futurewood).
I'd rather have a riser like yours than the dymondwood version.
Futurewood usually has a little more character (and nostalgia) to it.
Looks like another step in the right direction from the folks at Bear. :clapper:
Now they just need to stop putting those 99 cent compasses in them.
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I would love to try one. my bear Kodiak has the nicest grip for me and is a tack driver. Have always loved the looks of the t/d bear.
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Nice looking bow. I have two of the red stripes and neither of mine look anything like that. I too prefer the looks of the one piece futurawood.
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For Bah73. Yep, Brandon is correct, they have switched to futurewood over the dymondwood. Love the change to the maple!!!
I shot both the maple and bubinga at the Kzoo show and have been planning to pick up a maple A/#1 ever since.
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I have one of Big Jims red stripes and I love it. Wanted a TD Bear for years and finally have one. Still would love an original but I'm a lefty and they are tough to fine.
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I have the new bubinga B riser and I'm saving money for a new grey maple A riser.
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Cool, yes the futurewood is a lot nicer than the dymondwood. I must have purchased it at just the right time. I got a pair of 40lb #3 limbs for target shooting and and the bow is very smooth. Also got a pair of 55lb #1 limbs for hunting.
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Hey, don't mess with the old dymondwood. If you miss, you can still use it as a club. :D
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The first bow that I shot as a kid was a Bear Grizzly when I was in the Boy Scouts in the mid 70s.
I have owned a lot of bows since then, but I finally got bit by the Bear bug and just bought a new Bear T/D - B riser (Bubinga) w/ #3 limbs (I like longer bows).
Looking forward to a great season chasing critters with her.
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Got a question for the TD experts. My buddy has a 2011 A riser with #1 limbs in the black dyamondwood. His wife is due with their first child in the next month and he needs to sell the bow pretty quick. Its a hell of a deal and I want to buy the bow and get some Border Hex's for it. While I save up some money for the Borders, would it be ok to shoot the bow at my 29" draw? Or should I just buy the bow and wait for the new limbs?
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No trouble at all.
Shoot it and enjoy!
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One of my 4 Bear TD bows is an A riser set up with number 1 limbs. I draw 29" and that bow is just fine. Go ahead and shoot it, you might just like it so much you end up using it a lot.
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Awesome guys!!! Meeting him next week and will get the bow then.
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I think I officially have the Bear bug. I started cruising through the auction site and there are some T/D's available that I think are rare after reading through this thread. Too bad they are RH
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I'm a lefty and I bought the Bubinga red strip A riser and just pick up a B riser of the classified love the way fell in the hand.
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Thta is the one thing I could not get over when shooting my friends (soon to be mine) T/D. It just fit. It fits better than my other more expensive custom bows. Now that I know other companies (RER, Rose Oak, and Border) make after market limbs, I am getting hooked. Its like ILF bows in a way.
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Just finished reading all 33 pages here...Whew!!
Lots of satisfied owners. I got the bug too.
Just ordered the last Bubinga red stripe "B" riser that Big Jim had and some 55#, #1 limbs and a Bear string.
From what I've read here, and what Jim confirmed, that should come out to 53# which is exactly what I shoot which means I can use my existing arrows I hope. And the narrower grip should fit my small hand pretty well.
Does that sound like I got everything right?
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Your gonna love it!!
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Bah73, Nice Bow, love the look of your riser.
Maybe Bear will put a Futurewwood Bubinga combo together??
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Anybody heard whether a two tone is in Bears Future?
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Over the winter months I spent time looking at take down recurves, weighing up the prices and the probability that the company is still in existance should I have problems or need spares.
My choice was:-
riser A future wood
No. 3 limbs #50
making 60" bow
The choice was based on the points above already mentioned and I have owned a Grizzly for two years, the first recurve I could get on with, its brilliant.
One of my friends in British Bowhunting Ass. helped me with my choice and he pointed me towards this Trad Gang thread, now after reading most of the "33" enthusiastic pages I feel confident that my choice of bow was the right one.
thanks TG
Hobgoblin (a popular bottled real ale) :)
Futurewood/diamond wood, I like them both !
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Congrats on your purchase!
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I'm thinking about trying one of these.
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For all the guys wanting to try one, don't! You all keep driving the prices of the older bows up :nono: .
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A year ago I had two Bear T/D's, an "A" and "B" riser. Now, thanks to this thread, I caught some kind of a bug and added two more to the collection.
Someday, I'll gather all together for a photo shoot.
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I'm glad this thread is still going. I thought it was gone there for a while.
I love these Bear Takedowns. I have loved and wanted one ever since picking up a Bear Archery Traditional Catalog many years ago from a tiny shop in my hometown. I was buying a compound at the time because I didn't know enough about TRAD gear. In fact it was a Bear bow. Nice bow too. I started leafing through that catalog and seen that TD and LORD have mercy I loved the look. I thought then that someday I am gonna get one. Unfortunately I haven't made good on that promise to myself yet, but I will. Somehow, someway I am going to own a Bear TD. I'd prefer to have an "A" Handle, but would gladly accept a "B". As to what finish or year, that wouldn't matter much to me at this point, I'd just be more than content with one that was a good shooter and solid. I don't know how hard they are to find in 45#, but I'll give it a try when I can.
Thanks all for the info and pics.
Nalajr
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Great thread. I'm sending it to the top.
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I just received mine too. A 60" with B Bubinga riser and #1 limbs. Beautiful!
Can't wait to shoot it!
Irv Eichorst
www.truesouthadventures.com (http://www.truesouthadventures.com)
See us in Traditional Bowhunter Magazine
Article by Billy Berger.
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Hi Guys
Having read through all the posts I know now what has been calling to me for all these years.
Just interested to know why Bear stopped making the #2 limbs. Also for the folks who have the new black maple riser is the grip the same size as the bubinga one (I suffer with small hands). Also to those who hunt with the # 3 limbs, do you find the 64" troublesome sometimes.
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I just got back from the Baltimore traditional shoot and spent too much time in the Bear Booth. A big thanks to those guys for setting up there. They had A's and B's, right handed and left handed, heavy and light weight, black and Bubinga that you could shoot until content. I am going to have to add one of the black all maple risers to the stable.
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Yeah...curse you R.V.T.B AND that dang Bear booth..... :thumbsup: :archer2:
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I hope to be set with 9 riser and some more limbs!
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Yeah...curse you R.V.T.B AND that dang Bear booth..... :goldtooth:
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I wanted a dedicated turkey hunting bow this spring. One of the requirements was a bow with a front stabilizer hole to use in mounting a bow blind to the bow. A nice old Bear green stripe takedown fit the bill perfectly, and it had a pretty good season.
Nebraska #1 - You can't see the bow in this picture - it is laying under the bow blind which is right behind the quiver in this picture. Look close!
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/Nebraska%20Turkeys%20-%202013/Turkeys-2013058.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Jlasch/media/Nebraska%20Turkeys%20-%202013/Turkeys-2013058.jpg.html)
Nebraska #2
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/Nebraska%20Turkeys%20-%202013/Turkeys-2013106.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Jlasch/media/Nebraska%20Turkeys%20-%202013/Turkeys-2013106.jpg.html)
Wisconsin bearded hen. I've never seen a hen with a beard this heavy before.
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y80/Jlasch/Nebraska%20Turkeys%20-%202013/TrailCamera-2013132.jpg) (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/Jlasch/media/Nebraska%20Turkeys%20-%202013/TrailCamera-2013132.jpg.html)
The bow is in need of a refinishing, and it is going to get that now that turkey season is over.
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Congratulations Whip!!
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Congrats Joe,nice triplet.
I really love those Green Stripe.
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Hey Petrovic,
I have first hand experience with both the new Bubinga riser and the Black Maple...and yes they are the same size.
I have small hands too.
Whip...Congratulations on two nice birds and what a beautiful Bear TD bow!
They're all really nice bows.
Irv Eichorst
www.truesouthadventures.com (http://www.truesouthadventures.com)
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Can't wait to see what Bear has is store for the 2014 TD riser. Two-tone Future wood? I would have to pick one of those up for sure.
Tom
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I was wondering if anyone could help me with choice of arrows for my bow when it arrives.
On order from the same company are some Magnus II 2 blade 125 broadheads and I planned to use wooden shafts, but am thinking of changing my plans in favour of carbon.
Here is the spec. for my bow :-
riser A
no.3 limbs 50#
draw length 27"
MA II - 125gn
considering the data above and my draw length, I should have around 48lb on my fingers, so an arrow of 480-500gn would be about right.
From looking on spine charts, I have come up with the following:-
125 broadhead
75 steel adaptor
30 insert nock collars
230gn in total
From charts available on the net this should be about a 400 spine shaft cut to 28 1/2" with a weight around 9gpi should give me approx. 480gn arrow.
fletching - I usually use 5" shield.
I would be grateful for any advice offered, or a thumbs up for my choice of starting point.
Thanks in anticipation.
Hobgoblin
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Talked with the Bear product manager at the Baltimore shoot and he mentioned about playing with the different colored woods in the take down. No specifics but they are laying out the 2014 line now.
Here's my Bubinga "B" with old red tip limbs. Love this bow.
(http://pmagistro.com/bows/Bear/IMG_0075.jpg)
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Nice! :D
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My turn!!!!! :archer: New A riser with #1 limbs,I was looking for a "ground blind" bow and this one fits the bill to a "T".
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/yohon/IMG_0142_zps685314fa.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/yohon/media/IMG_0142_zps685314fa.jpg.html)
I made up some Antler knobs made out of a couple local Sika's to hold one of my Dad's quiver's. I'll be hittin the Sika marsh with some of his old Bear greenies too....figure adding a genuine Fred Bear takedown to the mix I'll have some serious MOJO with me come September
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Liking those antler limb bolts.
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Cancelled my order from a UK based firm they couldn't supply, got a bow from the USA in 18 days after ordering !!!!
I have an A riser and no.3 limbs making a 60" bow, what should the brace height be for this combination. The string should be 4" shorter than the AMO, for a recruve, but when this length string is on the bow it measures over 9", from the throat.
Help would be appreciated very much, what length string, where do you measure from (the throat I presume)and brace height parameters.
Hobgoblin
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The brace height, from the deepest part of the grip to the string, should be 7.75 inches to 8.5 inches or so. All of my Bear TD bows perform best with a brace height of 8.25 to 8.5 inches measured this way.
Some Bear TDs need a minus-4 string to do this, some need a minus-3 string. It sounds to me like yours will need a minus 3.
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Hob sent you a PM.
Mine shoots great at 7.5......stabow
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I've read through the literature supplied with Bear bows and measuring from the throat as detailed, I thought the string would have to be longer. Just needed conformation that other bows are the same.
I'll make a string minus 3 and try it out, thanks for the help Joe and stabow.
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My brace is at 8in on my B Riser. Shoots great and is quiet.
Tom
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Emailed 3 rivers who I got the bow from, they said the B/H for my combination should be 7 - 8", I have made a D97 Flemish string AMO -3" and have been tinkering with it this afternoon.
Now I've got something to work with and its looking good.
Hobgoblin
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Man that black maple is nice! Now if bear can just get rid of the black & tan diamond wood Super Kodiak & make them like some of the early one's.
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I don't own one, but after going thru this thread about 3 times, I now have talked myself into getting one asap. Now just to decide which one....
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Didn't take long, have one on the way..
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Enjoy. It's a great bow.
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Scott, did you order the Bubinga or the Black Maple Future Wood? I shoot a Dymond Wood riser and I love that little extra weight. My friend calls it the "Plywood Bow," but the Plywood shoots great for me.
Tom
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I have a 2012 Bubinga coming. I really prefer the looks of that Black Maple, but found a very nice used Bubinga that was in my price range..I plan on getting some 55 lb limbs for it eventually..I like the looks of the plywood bows too...Scott
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Hello all, (A riser + no.3 limbs)
thanks to those who took the trouble to reply and help.
I contacted Bear to ask about string length and brace height, it should measure 7.25" - 8.25" for the above combination and a string 3" shorter than the AMO is right.
I've set it at 8" it shoots great and it's very quiet without silencers, so with them installed it should be whisper quiet for hunting.
Hobgoblin
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I love my 2011(A-riser/#3 limbs) black maple red stripe,red tips,looks/weight & overall feel.I find both my 42#&52# limbs seems to like heavier spine than I usually use for those weights.They also seem to like 81/4 inch brace heights.I'm now thinking I want some #1 limbs as well.And being an older guy I love it's heritage. :thumbsup: :archer:
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I know there's more Bear T/D hunting pics out there. Let's see'm!
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I agree, lets see those Pics.
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I bought TWO green stripe bows, I thought in 1981, at Woolworth's for a whopping $199.00 each!
Don't have either one of them today. Imagine that. But, I got my money back out of them when I sold them.
I also had an A-riser, number A2191, that Fred had signed, that I no longer own. What makes men do the things we do?
I'd love to have that A-riser back.
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I've been thinking of buying one of the Bubinga A-riser bows, just a bunch of money.
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Irish Archer, I would hold out a few more months and see what Bear has for the Takedown in 2014. I can't wait.
Tom
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Originally posted by Irish Archer:
I also had an A-riser, number A2191, that Fred had signed, that I no longer own. What makes men do the things we do?
I'd love to have that A-riser back.
I feel your angst. I sold my Greenstripe in the early 90's. It was the most accurate bow that I have owned. I had 3 Robin Hoods with that rig and have regretted selling it since 15 minutes after I let her go! I just recently picked up one (YaY) and am curious to see if it will shoot like it did back in the day or if it was just me :D
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My bow shoots ok now, but when I draw I get a creaking noise, at first I thought it was the string wax sticking to the limbs, but now I suspect it might be the riser limbs fittings.
There is a little play when the limbs are in place before stringing.
I thought packing the joint with something to prevent movement might work.
Has anyone else had the same problem and how did you resolve it.
Hobgoblin
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I had the same issue on a couple Bear takedowns. I just put a little bow string wax on the alignment screw that sticks up in the limb pocket and it went away.
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Another spot that could cause the noise may be the leather tabs under the latches. Altho that seems to be on the older bows. I had it with an older mag riser. I put some leather dressing on them and it went away.
I gather yours is new so I agree with Randal.
Hope it helps.
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If you have any silicon lube, it works very well to get the creaking out of the limb/latch/riser junction.
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Gary Logsdon's bow my shirt -- the story behind that bow-- I bought it from Al Rieder
quiet a few years back - he said he did not own it - was selling for - OK forget the name.
It has a Black Widow Spider web finish -- a fiber glass piece was put on the shelf - because of a crack or chip -- they did a good job-- it did not have any small bears -- I sent that bow to Bow Doc-- before he did it -- it was UGLY
you can see the results- Bow Doc put the number
on it - his number -- this bow has the indented shelf-- I do not know if it is original - After I got it back --- it developed a crack in the handle-- The Bow Doc fixed =-
Gary came by the Bow and Quiver for the work he did on photography for my web-- -- Gary got a good deal-- :) ))))))))))00
not many lefty B's were made -- When I showed finished bow to Al Reider-- he was surprised
The poster shows my Grousehaven Shirt and leather bolo like Fred used --
I now have Bear License for the wool Shirts and coming Cotton Flannels -- simply put - the best in the market - made in the USA-- so far I have had 0 returns on anything - I will be back on TG soon-- limited supply on shirts and jackets
Gary enjoy the Bow -- Classic Bowman RT
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Here is A 1297 I had to share on this topic.
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/mrgq4126/101_2543.jpg) (http://s937.photobucket.com/user/mrgq4126/media/101_2543.jpg.html)
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/mrgq4126/101_2531.jpg) (http://s937.photobucket.com/user/mrgq4126/media/101_2531.jpg.html)
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/mrgq4126/101_2755.jpg) (http://s937.photobucket.com/user/mrgq4126/media/101_2755.jpg.html)
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/mrgq4126/100_3166.jpg) (http://s937.photobucket.com/user/mrgq4126/media/100_3166.jpg.html)
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Here is one you don't see shot every day. Took it out this afternoon for a "Sunday" even though it's Monday drive. Love it as a shooter, but wish it was a hunting weight at my short draw length. It is a Takedown
(http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/ad215/mrgq4126/112_3462.jpg) (http://s937.photobucket.com/user/mrgq4126/media/112_3462.jpg.html)
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I just put some bees wax on the alignment screw and the male part that fits under the riser socket lip. Guess what ? you were right the creaking has stopped.
Hobgoblin
PS - Passed the IBEP course last Sunday.
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I put some bees wax in the socket. on the screw itself and on the male part of the limb that fits into the riser.
The creaking noise has disappeared.
Thanks - Hobgoblin
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Any Tradgangers have success in the woods with their Bear Takedowns yet this season?
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Small one sept. 24 A mag with RER limbs
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My new to me Greenie. From the tree stand we call Tarzan because of the wild grape vines.
(http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/9775/296v.jpg)
Hopefully some time this year I'll be able to show it with a deer.
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Had to come back for another look at the pretty bows here.
I don't have one, but really like them.
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Three does with my red stripe take down so far this year.....A riser with 53 pouind #3 limbs.
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/3141c6f0-6daf-4a06-9b2b-ca09162723e3_zps5b4cc2e5.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/3141c6f0-6daf-4a06-9b2b-ca09162723e3_zps5b4cc2e5.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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I like this thread and must keep it going! I have a like new Green stripe but not sure how to post pics.............IJ
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My maple futurewood is a favorite of mine. A nice 56" ground blind bow at 53#.
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Here is a photo of my 5 Bear Take Downs. The first one is a Type 1 1970 lefty B-handle with the original early white-tipped limbs that had the grooves in the base. I saw one just like mine (a lefty)sell on **** for $3,850 this year. So, I'm keepin' her! The second one is a blonde Type 2 B-handle that I take on out of state hunts.
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/BearTDs.jpg) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/BearTDs.jpg.html)
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These things look a lot better laying on the side of a nice buck. Here is one I shot in Jersey with an "A" takedown....
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/swampbuck_zps19c08126.jpg)
...and here is one of our Va. bucks that I shot last week.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010512_zps60c64509.jpg)
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FINALLY got the photo of my 5 Bear TDs two posts above this one. Here I show my Type 2 B-handle still hot after taking a Boar Hog in SC. Below that are my two 1970 woodies (B & A handles).
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/BearType2TD.jpg) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/BearType2TD.jpg.html)
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/B-A70shandles.jpg) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/B-A70shandles.jpg.html)
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Dandy Virginia buck Randy,Congrats. :clapper:
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I really like the adjustable side plate on the mag risers. Was that an option on the early Bear wood risers, or do you think it was done later on the one you have?
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The adjustable side plate was available on the early Bear wood risers as of 1971-72 according tothe Bear Archery catalogs.
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Here is another view of the current collection of lefty Bear TDs hanging on the vertical Bear bow rack. The second photo is the most recent purchase of a mid-1980s green stripe TD.
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/001.jpg) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/001.jpg.html)
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/002.jpg) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/002.jpg.html)
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Wow! That's a seriously green, green stripe!
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Very nice collection AA! What are the serial #s on your A-B?
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Ok found them on the previous page.
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I actually sold the A-handle after a failed search to find #3 limbs in the right poundage for it (foolish move). Anyhow, Thought I should post pics of the Bear TDs in action...They do look better laying on the side of downed game!
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/MTwhitetailCoppen.jpg) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/MTwhitetailCoppen.jpg.html)
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/Jorgeelk.jpg) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/Jorgeelk.jpg.html)
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/2007_Caribou_i.jpg) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/2007_Caribou_i.jpg.html)
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WOW,nice critters,I am glad you used the bow in the way it was intended.
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Hey Jorge, After seeing your photo, I believe we hunted together down at Nickie's in Fla. a couple years back. Looks like between the two of us we can field a dozen or so Bear takedowns.
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Here is green stripe that I picked up a week or so ago. It was sold as new, in the box and un shot. You certainly couldn't disprove this claim by the condition of the bow. Beautiful. And yes, I have strung it and shot it!
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/GreenStripe_zps542ee70c.jpg)
It has the "Fred Bear" grip on it with the lower cut shelf.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/11-26-2_zps0223f744.jpg)
When shooting off of the shelf it definitely puts the arrow right down on your hand.
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/11-30_zpsed2b8fd7.jpg)
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@Cacciatore: I see you had quite a pile of impressive critters on this thread, that's what inspired me to upload these pics. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Randy! Yeah, we did meet up at Nickie's Archery Outfitters for a February Hog Hunt. We have been hunting down there for 7 straight years, but I won't make it this February 2014. Spent the cash on new siding for the house :(
Here's a pic of my 2010 hog at Nickie's, shot with a 1985 Bear TD.
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/Jorgenhog.jpg) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/Jorgenhog.jpg.html)
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I am going to miss hunting down there myself this year. I am going to take that time and money to go to the P.B.S. banquet in Cincinnati in March.
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Hey Jorge. Good to see you posting here. I am glad to see you are doing ok. That's a nice set of bear Takedowns you have there. I look to see you in Cincinati in March.
Tony
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See you in Cincinnati.
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my new 2012 TD !
(http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/17/72/01/13/14720910.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=60&u=17720113)
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Hi Tony! Good to hear from you. Hope you had a great Christmas and another good hunting season. This year I saw 5 bucks make 4 different scrapes in my little patch but never got a shot opportunity. Damn stickbows! I won't make Cincinnati but have a great time!
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Just ordered my first Bear T/D! Black Maple "A" riser and #3 limbs, 52@28!
Question for Bear T/D shooters: what's your string setup? I've read of some people using strings 4" below AMO and others needing a string 3" below AMO. Also, what material are you using? All of my other bows in the 50# range use 12 strands of D10 padded to 14 strands.
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I've accumulated a small stack of them over the last few years, "A" risers with #3 limbs and "B" risers with #1 limbs. All make up a 60" bow. On each of the new production bows that I have gotten in I noticed that they were tough to get quiet with the D-97 string that was shipped with the bow. I am shooting a Linda Brackenbury string on all of them now and they are whisper quiet. I am shooting 14 strand FF+ strings that are 56" long.
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Great thread! My grandpa shot Bear T/D's exclusively and that's the bow that got me going down the trad path. I'm shooting one of his B mag risers now and love the slim grip on it. I really want a wood handle for it, but wondering how the grips match up? The few that I've handled have been "blockier" and don't fit well. The Mag grip is a 2R I believe. Any feedback is appreciated!
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my last workout!
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I always thought the Bear T.D. was also the best of the best. I have a beautiful, wood riser "A" 60" 72@27" that I wouldn't go hunting without. My son is a "Hill" man and so we represent both worlds when we hunt together.
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Does anyone have a new 2014 model yet? Like the wood combo.
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My A riser is ordered for 2 months, since no piece of news.
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All these bows are beautiful! im trying to post a pic, or rather trying to figure out how to
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my last workout!
(http:// [url=http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=82&u=17720113] [img]http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/17/72/01/13/sam_0310.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
Bear A riser Bubinga with RER bocote limb.
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There ought to be some photos of the new two tone risers showing up on this thread. Mine hasn't arrived yet.
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As a Bear TD man, I love this thread. I recently picked up a green stripe that had spent its life in the stock room of a sporting goods store. It is new, though I have shot it. My current hunting bow is a Black and Tan early 2000s A riser with 52 pound Rise Oak limbs and an SBD 6-strand ultra string. Very impressive performance. You got to love those Bear TDs.
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I've got a new two tone A riser on the way from Big Jim's. I've got a set of number one 52# limbs waiting for the riser's arrival and then I'll put it through the paces. While I've shot many over the years, both A and B in wood and magnesium configurations, this will be my first of my own. The two tone riser put me over the hump in finally pulling the trigger.
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The 2014's are gorgeous - you won't be disappointed! I lucked out and stumbled upon a "used" one. Still waiting for my B handle that I ordered though.
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y415/sticknstring33/A-vert_zps5e39e3a8.jpg)
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stick33, beautiful bow. I have a 2011 Dymond Wood B riser, and I'm ordering a new Two-tone B next week.
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Agreed. Am I seeing things correctly. Looks like the risers Bear was making the past few years were Type IIs. Stick, yours looks more like a Type I.
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How is the quality between the older takedowns and the new ones. Spent a good deal of time reading all forty pages...... Beautiful bows!!!
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I got a new two tone really like it.
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I agree with you, I have wanted one for a long time. Finally ordered one a few weeks ago. Red Stripe. Should be in anytime now. Can't wait!
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Originally posted by stick33:
The 2014's are gorgeous - you won't be disappointed! I lucked out and stumbled upon a "used" one. Still waiting for my B handle that I ordered though.
(http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y415/sticknstring33/A-vert_zps5e39e3a8.jpg)
Nice !!! I love that !
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I went to the Professional Bowhunters Society banquet in Cincinnati, awesome time by the way.
I carried one of my new Bear take down risers out there and had it signed by some of the guys who have
been carrying the traditional bowhunting torch for the last 50 years. Sadly, some of these guys are now
in their 70's and I fear they won't have many seasons left in them.
A Bear bow in and of itself has some "special mojo". This one is now very special, at least to me.....
(http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010705_zps59ed412c.jpg)
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I finally got some quality range time with my new two-tone A handle set up as a 56" bow last night. Settled in at 8 1/8" brace and now it's time for Bow Hush and Hush Puppies before the final tune. It's spitting out some Axis 600's with 220 grains up front like nobody's business.
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I have wanted a Bear TD for years but never got one. At my age I figured if I ever was going to have one the time is now! I recently purchased a new two toned riser TD and just love this bow! I have actually added three Bears to my rack in the past year! :rolleyes: I normally am a longbow guy who loves the Hill style bows, but Bear is getting me back into the recurves once again. I now own a Super Kodiak in the black glass model, a 59 Kodiak remake, and the TD.
Hitmantoto, thanks for your picture of the two toned riser with the bubinga wedge limbs. I had wondered how they would look on the two toned riser--very attractive!
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David, we're walking the same path. I've acquired a 1955, 1957, 1958 and 1959 Kodiak along with my 2014 2tone A riser in the last year. I too had wanted a take-down wood riser for years and when the two tone came out I couldn't resist. I still love my longbows, but the Bears are getting a lot of range time.
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I've been checking out the Bears lately myself. I want a new takedown and since I'm loving the Super Kodiak so much I'm thinking this is the direction I'm going to go. There is certainly something classy and nostalgic about a Bear t/d.
Some of you guys have some drop dead gorgeous bows.
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I want the two tone real bad. Will have to do some horse(bow) trading to get it done though.
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One of these days, I'm gonna own me one...8^)
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This is a question for you Bear Takedown gurus, I was wondering if an "A" handle with #3 limbs felt smoother than say "B" handle with #1 limbs. Those of you who have shot them both tell me what you think. I have currently ordered a Bear takedown from Big Jim ("A" handle, #3 limbs) I am just waiting for the riser to come in. But looking at this forum the "Bear Takedown Bug" is creeping upon me!!!
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Just got a 2 toned 2014 riser, that I glossed out to match the Rose Oak limbs I bought it for. Pretty impressed with the riser. I like the weighty feel compared to my green stripe. The green stripe feels a little more svelte and has a narrower throat and palm swell. I shoot the old riser better but the newer grip is growing on me. Jury's still out but there is always sandpaper ;^)
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Just got a 2 toned 2014 riser, that I glossed out to match the Rose Oak limbs I bought it for. Pretty impressed with the riser. I like the weighty feel compared to my green stripe. The green stripe feels a little more svelte and has a narrower throat and palm swell. I shoot the old riser better but the newer grip is growing on me. Jury's still out but there is always sandpaper ;^)
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Kenny,
As far as being smooth is concerned, in my extensive experiments shooting both the A riser with #3 limbs and the B riser with #1 limbs -with both set up at the same draw weight-I don't perceive any real difference in smoothness. However, the added weight of the B riser tends to keep my bow arm steady and reduce any tendency for torque. To me the big differences in the A and B risers is the ability of the A to become a 56" bow with #1 limbs. That versatility could be an important factor. Likewise, the ability of the B to make a long recurve with #3 limbs might be an important factor for guys with a very long draw. Otherwise, the feel of the A grip versus the B grip could be a deciding factor.
For me, owning a few of each has been the best way to go. My current favorite set up is an A wood riser with #3 Rise Oak limbs. It feels great and shoots beautifully.
Joe
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I wish I hadn't seen or read this thread. You guys are killing me.
I'm try to whittle things down, not buy more but I definitely want to try one.
What's a good start?
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Found one in my small town the other day. 82-83 green stripe w/#1 limbs. Sweet shooter, but I can't shoot the 55lb limbs as much as I'd like.
Lippe
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(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m292/mclipp/IMG_0427.jpg)
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That's a good find.
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Thanks for the info smoking joe, I just got an email this morning from Big Jim that my bow has shipped! Now I have to convince my wife I need a "B" riser takedown...wish me luck!
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I just received my new Bear Takedown from Big Jim!! Two-Tone "A" riser with 52lb #3 limbs!! This Bear Takedown bug is contagious!!!
(http://i.imgur.com/6xHRHVd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/56otkpi.jpg)
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That one is a beauty.
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I love :D
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Who else is gearing up for the season with their Bear T/D's?
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Mine will see some time. :)
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OK, I found a set of #2 RER custom limbs made for Bear Take-downs and have to say what a great find. These are just like butter at my 28.5-29.0 inch draw with this 58" bow configuration. They shoot a 575 grain arrow (probably around 42# at my draw) very efficiently.
Next up some Rose Oak limbs in #3 if they make them! (http:// [url=http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/shrewshooter/media/20140908_133825_zps8d58e568.jpg.html] [img]http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg617/shrewshooter/20140908_133825_zps8d58e568.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
(http:// [url=http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/shrewshooter/media/20140908_133841_zps2249fe62.jpg.html] [img]http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg617/shrewshooter/20140908_133841_zps2249fe62.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Originally posted by Ray Lyon:
Next up some Rose Oak limbs in #3 if they make them!
Yes, Brandon still does. :thumbsup:
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Got one two-toned ordered from The Footed Shaft in August. B-handle 55 lb. #1 limbs. Hope it gets here this fall to put in some timber time. Love the looks of the T/D.
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Hitting the fall woods with my Bubinga Red Glass TD. Can't wait.
Tom
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I am casually looking for a nice two-tone B riser from the early 2000s -- like the ones Bear was making for 3-Rivers. I like the low-cut shelf of the risers from that era.
Don't need the limbs, but would take some that match the riser and are either 40# or 45# at 28"…. either #1 or #3 limbs.
I sure don't need another riser, but it doesn't hurt to look around, and I am not in any rush.
:bigsmyl:
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Lets keep this one going. Here is my B handle with Rose Oak #2 limbs.
(http:// [url=http://s180.photobucket.com/user/chopncut/media/image_zps42f465e9.jpg.html] [img]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x29/chopncut/image_zps42f465e9.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
(http:// [url=http://s180.photobucket.com/user/chopncut/media/image_zps6a9b1993.jpg.html] [img]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x29/chopncut/image_zps6a9b1993.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Here are a few more pictures.
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(http:// [url=http://s180.photobucket.com/user/chopncut/media/deer1_zpsebde5765.jpg.html] [img]http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x29/chopncut/deer1_zpsebde5765.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Beautiful bucks, slayer1.
I was up to the hunting grounds last weekend. Snapped a few pics of my hunting rig. No doubt the most accurate bow (in my hands) that I've ever shot. Quiet too.
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w295/Icelander513/IMG_2127_zpscf0eb88a.jpg) (http://s179.photobucket.com/user/Icelander513/media/IMG_2127_zpscf0eb88a.jpg.html)
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TTT, For some more "drooling"!!!!!
After 40 years... I have decided that my next bow, will be a new Bear T/D!!!!!
It will probly be my last bow. Thinking Bubinga, "A" handle, with #1 limbs. (possibly #3,jury is still out) 40#-45# (hey,I'm not getting any younger!)
Question...? Lacking finding an original single springarm quiver... Which side-mount quiver do you "experianced" Bear T/D guys recommend??? The Bear side-mount? Or, the Great Northern? I've seen your pictures,and they both look GREAT!!!
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Chuck,
Although I'm a vintage Bear Quiver fan, I really like the Great Northern side mount quiver on my A Handle.
(http:// [url=http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/shrewshooter/media/20140908_133825_zps8d58e568.jpg.html] [img]http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg617/shrewshooter/20140908_133825_zps8d58e568.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
Also, my #2 RER limbs on an A riser shoot amazingly well!!! I draw about 28.5 inches and they're shooting a 575 grain arrow much flatter than I would have expected.
(http:// [url=http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/shrewshooter/media/20140908_133852_7_zps35ee547d.jpg.html] [img]http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg617/shrewshooter/20140908_133852_7_zps35ee547d.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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The other Bear TD aficionados will appreciate this.
I recently lucked into an old-stock but new green-stripe TD that had spent its entire life in the back room of a sporting goods store. It still has the stickum from the factory stickers on it (the store owner peeled them off). It is a very early, low serial number riser with the green tip limbs that came new with it. It is absolutely new and spotless.
I'll try to post some photos this weekend after I get it set up and shoot it a few times.
It is Bear TD number 5 for me.
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Originally posted by smokin joe:
The other Bear TD aficionados will appreciate this.
I recently lucked into an old-stock but new green-stripe TD that had spent its entire life in the back room of a sporting goods store. It still has the stickum from the factory stickers on it (the store owner peeled them off). It is a very early, low serial number riser with the green tip limbs that came new with it. It is absolutely new and spotless.
I'll try to post some photos this weekend after I get it set up and shoot it a few times.
It is Bear TD number 5 for me.
A or B Riser?
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The green-stripe was only made in the B riser.
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I've got a new two tone that I can't get quieted down. Any suggestions?
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Have you tried putting moleskin on the limbs where they mate up against the riser?
I wrap mine from the back, just shy of where the metal on the riser covers it around the bottom / top around the curved portion and up onto the flat portion.
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For a 60" bow.....
What are the Pros/Cons,Differances,Performance, Between an "A" handle,with #3 limbs... Or a "B" handle, with #1 limbs?
I believe Papa Bear prefered a "B" handle, with #1 limbs. Wondering why??? I'm looking to get a new Bear T/D, for what will probly be my last bow. Want to make the right choice!!!!!
(Dad always said, "Do it right,the 1st time! You'll never have to do it again...")
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I have had #1 and #3 limbs on a B riser. At my 29" draw I like the #3 making a 64" bow.
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Originally posted by William F. Adams:
Have you tried putting moleskin on the limbs where they mate up against the riser?
I wrap mine from the back, just shy of where the metal on the riser covers it around the bottom / top around the curved portion and up onto the flat portion.
I've wrapped some around the top curved spot, but I'll try the backside too. Thanks
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OK, Bear TD Fans:
This afternoon I set up the greenstripe TD that I acquired. As you may remember, it had spent its entire life in the back room of a sporting goods store until I bought it recently. It is old stock, but it is new.
Here is the really low serial number:
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg611/smokinjoepix/IMG_1910_zpsbd5117ed.jpg) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/smokinjoepix/media/IMG_1910_zpsbd5117ed.jpg.html)
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…and here are some other photos:
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg611/smokinjoepix/IMG_1909_zps150fff56.jpg) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/smokinjoepix/media/IMG_1909_zps150fff56.jpg.html)
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg611/smokinjoepix/IMG_1908_zps58cc497c.jpg) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/smokinjoepix/media/IMG_1908_zps58cc497c.jpg.html)
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…and here it is dressed up with a Bear 4-arrow quiver:
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg611/smokinjoepix/IMG_1907_zps1dd87d5e.jpg) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/smokinjoepix/media/IMG_1907_zps1dd87d5e.jpg.html)
Here are the limb serial numbers:
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And of course this is important, here is how it shoots. First shot with only a guess as to the proper arrow. Additional shots confirmed its smooth shooting and accuracy. I may have to take this little beauty out deer hunting some time.
(http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg611/smokinjoepix/IMG_1900_zps5e929a2a.jpg) (http://s1246.photobucket.com/user/smokinjoepix/media/IMG_1900_zps5e929a2a.jpg.html)
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The last picture, says it all!!!!! :thumbsup:
Are the limbs #1's ??? Not up to date on all the Serial #s and markings... :confused:
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Thanks, Woodchucker. All of the green-stripe bows were B risers with #1 limbs making a 60" bow.
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Hmmm.... A Bubinga "B" handle, with #1 limbs is looking better all the time!!!!! :thumbsup:
Good thing I have lots of time, The "loose change" jug doesn't fill up very fast... :rolleyes:
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Ok my turn I love and that's not a word I use allot, lol my Bear.
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o762/chadorde/kodiak3_zps697b8280.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/chadorde/media/kodiak3_zps697b8280.jpg.html)
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love the green stripes !!
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(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o762/chadorde/7f6f6658-d8a5-40cf-8697-2266ad2c8714_zps9c475e72.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/chadorde/media/7f6f6658-d8a5-40cf-8697-2266ad2c8714_zps9c475e72.jpg.html)
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Really unique riser Chad
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And nice shooting
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Originally posted by dhermon85:
Really unique riser Chad
Made me buy it on the spot!
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Chad, that is a sweet looking TD.
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Took some pics this morning
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(http://i.imgur.com/Pl2aTKn.jpg)
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They sure look good in the woods!
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Never tire of seeing the Bear takedowns :) )))
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Great Thread!
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I recently re-finished my grizzly (I know, not a take down but "Bear" with me for a second), I had to re-shape the grip more to my liking, the factory grip tended to roll the bow in towards the left. Anyhow, I got it shooting great and its rapidly growing on me so I was watching the Fred Bear History of the Bow series on youtube. Its a 3 part series with a good background from Fred's perspective. He shows his original take down he made along with the story of why he made it, then explains its
evolution to the take down that we (not me, but "we" as in archers) have today. Its a great series of short clips and I recommend it if you haven't seen it yet. Me, while I like the idea of a take down, I'm looking at a Super Kodiak next..
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Just acquired my first Kodiak Take Down. It's a 2013 Bubinga A riser with #3 limbs. Great shooter but dang...does this thing creak like crazy. It's the top limb and I can't figure it out. All the pins and screws in the latch seem to be in place...any suggestions?
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WOW!!
This is awesome that this thread has lasted this long and there are so many interested in it and love the Bear Takedowns.
I don't have one...yet. I do plan on getting one. I wouldn't need a keepsake or a rare bow, just something to shoot and hunt with and if it gets scratched, so what. Heck I wouldn't care what handle it is, I like all the ones I've seen.
An "A" handle and either limb, to make a 45 pound bow. Are you listening Santa?
Keep it coming guys..
Nalajr
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To keep the limbs from making noise in the sockets, I just use a tiny spritz of spray silicon lube. It always works, and it lasts for up to a year before I have to do it again.
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Recently purchased a barely used charcoal black "B" riser with #3 limbs. Beautiful bow and great shooter. Always wanted a Bear takedown and finally it came together over a phone call to a dealer who had one to sell.
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Thanks SJ, worked perfectly.
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Chad,
Love your riser dude! Very unique!
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Been shooting my "B" mag with 60# no.3 limbs the past few weeks. I had thought I may be getting to old (69) for these limbs but I am able to shoot a 100+ arrows in a morning with no ill effects.
I have been pleasantly surprised at how well this combo has been doing for me. So far my old AO 2117 arrows with 145 gr. have been good. Combo even checked out on Stu's calculator to within a pound. It was only the second time I used calculator that I did not have to tweak the specs around. I wonder if this is the " magic combo" I have been looking for?
I have ordered some GT 55/75 shafts for my next experiment. I am wondering what others have done to get a match at this weight and arrow size? I like a 29in arrow for my 28in draw.
I am asking because I get a little frustrated at times with calculator and carbons.
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M60gunner,
I shoot a Zipper Recurve at 55# at my 28" draw and like you, like to keep my arrows cut to 3/4" longer than my draw length. I had Big Jim cut my GT Traditionals 55-75 to 28.75". I used a 100grain brass insert upfront with 160gr Gr Grizzly BH and a 35 grain glue in threaded insert. So about 295 total grains up front. I use a vinyl wrap and three 5" shield cut LW feathers. They shoot like darts with good FOC weighting. (I think the FOC measured about 25%) I would bet the same set up would be close for you too!
Harry
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I had this one some years back and regret everyday for selling it! :banghead: It was a real smooth recurve and very accurate.
(http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q506/ORShooter1/100_0063_zps0f31cd32.jpg) (http://s1161.photobucket.com/user/ORShooter1/media/100_0063_zps0f31cd32.jpg.html)
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Takedown, thank you for advice. I see if I am going carbon I will need to experiment. Footed carbons work real well here on the desert floor for that arrow that gets away sometimes.
I wish Bear would remake the metal handle. I know they use CNC for their compound risers. A new "A or B" riser made with forged alum would really round out their product line. IMO of course.
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Hi Custom Kodiak addicts!
After I was looking for custom Kodiaks on the internet I stumbled over the Tradgang Forum and especially over this thread! Wow, wonderful bows you have and many useful information about Custom Kodiaks. I own already a few vintage ones, but after 2 weeks reading all of your stuff here it ended in ordering 2 of the last available All Bubinga risers (A + B as the decision was so hard) in a german proshop. Still waiting for them. It is hard to say, but the bug is already in me :-))
When I find time, I will post a pic of mine CK!
Regards
Kermit
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Welcome Kermit! Congratulations on your purchase. I just shot my A riser with #2 RER aftermarket limbs a couple of days ago and Fred Bear certainly has a winning design that still performs with anything 44 years later.
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Hi Ray, thank you for the welcome!
Hope that my attempt to show a pic of my Custom Kodiak works.It`s the first time for me..
I give it a try...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9s58839tqlji2h5/IMG_4401.JPG?dl=0
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Kermit,
Your picture came through just fine. That's a beautiful blonde wood in the riser. If you haven't looked at it yet check out the history and collecting forum on this site for more Bear archery info.
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Looking back through this great thread I see I never added a pic of my latest Bear T/D to the mix...
Type 1 B #1934
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/stickbow98/image_zpsfe9cfb38.jpg)
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Beautiful bow, along with some beautiful arrows.
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Congrats Ron,nice bow.
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Hi All, can some one of you explain to me how to integrate a pic as Stickbow98 ?? I only was able to post my dropbox link, but would prefer to show the pic as above.
Regards
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I meant "as Stickbow98 did"
Sorry, if I may confused someone of you
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Hey kermit. I use photobucket. Once my picture is uploaded onto photobucket I select to copy the image. Several options come up and I pick the one that says "IMG". Once you click on that, just click into the text-box on here. "Paste" will show up, select paste. Your image will be pasted as a html code or something, however once you select "add reply" and your reply posts, it will be your image there. You can type either above or below your html coded image to add the text with your picture(s). Welcome to tradgang friend.
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(http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a567/rbrounds1/customkodiakrove011_zps52463acd.jpg) (http://s1284.photobucket.com/user/rbrounds1/media/customkodiakrove011_zps52463acd.jpg.html)
Took this one out today.
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My Custom Kodiak A handle (apprx 2000)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/marcouskoelle/Custom%20Kodiak/IMG_4411_zps87283171.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/marcouskoelle/media/Custom%20Kodiak/IMG_4411_zps87283171.jpg.html)
Bought it some years ago on the bay. Didn`t thought I will like it much, but liked to try the A handle size since BEAR came back on the market with them.
Thank you Cavescout for assisting how to show the pics properly!! Highly appreciate your welcome too! Had to set up photobucket first and find the right settings. But seems it worked.
Wonderful forum! My wife says I`m crazy, when I do my "studies" throughout the evenings since I found this forum :-) Always droll over for new pics of Custom Kodiaks :-) Addicted definitely!!
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Kermit, good to see Bear's making an impact around the globe. And you're welcome, glad you got it sorted out with photobucket. And yes, the "studies" will sure draw you in here on tradgang!
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(http://i982.photobucket.com/albums/ae302/bruinbow/IMG_20140922_220234_zpsxi7dhbi0.jpg) (http://s982.photobucket.com/user/bruinbow/media/IMG_20140922_220234_zpsxi7dhbi0.jpg.html)
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Hi Cavescout,
yes, products of BEAR Archery made their way around the globe.!!
Some fans around in europe. And still a very popular brand!
I started Target Archery in a club in my hometown Cologne/Germany, back in 1985.
I was 15 years old. First bow they took in my hands was a Damon Howatt Cavalier with 24lbs and a bit later a York Crest with 26 lbs and then a DH Ventura, before I got my first rental TD Recurve (still wooden handle).
Before I was already continuesly atrackted by bow and arrow. I guess it started at the age of 3 or 4,
when my Grandaunt bought my first bow in a toy-store, while waiting at a bus-stop. This is the earliest "bow-story" I can remember.
It was a red coloured split-bamboo latch :-).
She bought me the same bow a second time some months later. But then green coloured as this was my favorite colour when I was a kid.
And probably this was the seed for that I still can`t imagine a life with just one bow :-).
And Marketing guys of Bear Archery know that probably :-)
Years and many selfmade bows later and still the Bow and Arrow fire in me,I went to my local Archery club in Cologne in 1985
and got in contact with some of the german archery olditmers of this time and they showed me the old BEAR catalogs from the 70`s and lighted this way the fire in me for BEAR bows.
I did target archery for many years but always stayed tuned to the old shool equipment like english longbows (Robin Hood fan throughout my lifetime), HH-Longbows
and recurves in general.
In the 80`s only a tiny part of german archers did the traditional way. Target archery was what the majority did.
Today it changed a bit. Traditional archery (3D) became very popular during the last 15-20 years, but still is a niche sport,
like archery in general, compared with soccer or so. Bowhunting is forbidden either in Germany (where I come from) and
Switzerland (where I live).
It is really great to get in contact via the internet to other people who have the same "problem" with archery addiction :-)
Cheers
Marco
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My Bubinga "A" riser with 60 pound #3 limbs.
(http://http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010660_zpsb6f1e999.jpg)
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(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/P1010660_zpsb6f1e999.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010660_zpsb6f1e999.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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My 2014 two tone "B" riser with 55 pound #1 limbs.
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/P1010815_zps6e870e15.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010815_zps6e870e15.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Most of my Bear T/D harem. I've since added one more.
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/Familyreunion_zps6fc7adf7.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/Familyreunion_zps6fc7adf7.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Great Collection!
Congratulations!!!
I'm still waiting for my all Bubinga Risers.
Hope to get at least one of them soon.
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How about some clear, close-up photos of the new two-tone risers? The photos on the Bear website are not very good. I suspect that the new risers are beautiful, and some great photos might confirm that.
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(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/8759ab02-0a59-47d0-8a28-fd4df6bd110b_zps46444c51.png.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/8759ab02-0a59-47d0-8a28-fd4df6bd110b_zps46444c51.png)[/url] [/IMG]
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This is my two tone "B" riser.
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/18e79c78-65c9-4c80-84c0-cca7e7b10b3e_zps8788a767.png.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/18e79c78-65c9-4c80-84c0-cca7e7b10b3e_zps8788a767.png)[/url] [/IMG]
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The two tone risers are absolutely beautiful. Probably one of the nicest looking combinations to ever leave the Bear factory. I have to say that I was a little disappointed in the figure in the Bubinga that they used in this riser. It is just kind of straight and plain. Nothing like the Bubinga that is in my "A" & "B" Bubinga risers or my grayling green Super Kodiak. There is a lot of figure in those risers. But still, I think the two tones are beautiful.
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(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/4925b466-2b96-473b-b329-015ff1d14f47_zpsd946c1e7.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/4925b466-2b96-473b-b329-015ff1d14f47_zpsd946c1e7.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
Here is my Bubinga "A" riser. This bow is stunning. I have had several people stop me and ask if it was a special order as the wood looks that nice. Nothing wrong with the two tone, but figure in a riser like this will spoil you. My Bubinga "B" has almost as much figure in the grain as this ones has.
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All these bows look totally awesome. I've been looking for one for quite a while. Pretty much an impossibility. Some day .....
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I'm working on a trade to add another T/D to the rack....
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/eb2617f3-5064-4dae-a2cc-66be32486baa_zps1f265585.png.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/eb2617f3-5064-4dae-a2cc-66be32486baa_zps1f265585.png)[/url] [/IMG]
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/4dbe9caa-60eb-40a8-b2f1-63fe612fd8d1_zps049a8bf6.png.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/4dbe9caa-60eb-40a8-b2f1-63fe612fd8d1_zps049a8bf6.png)[/url] [/IMG]
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Simply awesome!
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Two tone time?
I`m happy to have this beautyful, in my eyes a bit exotic looking, green stripe riser in my collection:
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/marcouskoelle/Two%20tone%20Riser/IMG_4516_zps4923a402.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/marcouskoelle/media/Two%20tone%20Riser/IMG_4516_zps4923a402.jpg.html)
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That's a great looking riser! Love the blond wood
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Thanks! It is 100% flawless. I got the chance to buy it some years ago from someone in Germany who seems never really used the bow. 2 pair of green tipped limbs came with the bow. 50lbs and 70 lbs. It is a kind of holy grail for me.
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Hey Guys - 1st post on this board.
I was with my wife getting her a Hoyt Buffalo for Xmas. While looking at the Hoyt, she noticed a Kodiak TD next the Hoyt.
After doing some research (and finding this thread) I concluded she had a excellent eye. So she now has a Kodiak TD (Black Maple B-Riser with #1 limbs @ 35#).
After shooting her Kodiak, I was so impressed with it, I just bought one for myself :) . I picked up a Black Maple A-riser with #1 limbs @60#.
So thank you to everyone that has made this thread so full of information etc.
Thanks again
Ken
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Congratulations on your new buy! Excellent choice! Enjoy! Like to see pics of the new CK couple ;-)
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Welcome Ken. Nice choice in bows!
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What about some close up pictures of the black maple riser. Just looking on the Bear website it looks pretty sharp also.
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Questions....
Are the shooting qualities of the TDs much different than the regular Super K?
And....
Are there any custom bowyers making risers w/ the Bear TD system? Many bowyers have made their repro's of the 50s & 60s Bears and a few make the TD limbs but I'm not aware of anyone building the TD risers.
:campfire:
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Originally posted by myshootinstinks:
Questions....
Are the shooting qualities of the TDs much different than the regular Super K?
And....
Are there any custom bowyers making risers w/ the Bear TD system? Many bowyers have made their repro's of the 50s & 60s Bears and a few make the TD limbs but I'm not aware of anyone building the TD risers.
:campfire:
I saw a thread on here that shows some risers that one guy was building that were copies. They were drop dead gorgeous.
I've got one of the new 2014 take-downs and a 1971 Super K. They're both great shooters. The take-down has a little more zip because I'm using fast flight style string versus old B-50 on the Super K. Also, there's more mass weight in the take down than my super K. I like the take-down because of the take-down mass weight and no tool take-down feature
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TTT
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All quit at the Custom Kodiak front?
I assume we can see many new ones when Santa Claus has done his job finally next week;-)
I'm still waiting for my all Bubinga Risers. That's the hell!!
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Hi guys, while waiting for my all Bubinga riser Custom Kodiaks I got the chance to shoot a used Bear Take Down on the bay in Germany. It has been arrived short before we lighted our christmas tree and is a nice thing. The owner did not know much about it. Only that it was once imported from the US, that he only shot the bow 2 or 3 times and that it is a rare piece were only 200 units were made off. He guesses that the bow dates back to the later 80`s. Serialnumber is TDHH-171. No markings/ silk screens on the limbs, exept draw weight and lenght were it belongs. I try to post pics asap. Maybe someone of you can help me to get some knowledge about this custom Kodiak?? Maybe someone of you was once the original owner too??
MERRY CHRISTMAS
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Would be happy to get any information about its history and dating of the bow:
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/marcouskoelle/Plywood%20Custom%20Kodiak/IMG_4599_zpsdc74167e.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/marcouskoelle/media/Plywood%20Custom%20Kodiak/IMG_4599_zpsdc74167e.jpg.html)
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Good looking riser Kermit. You don't see many of those brown "no stripes".
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I would say early to mid nineties. The wood in my 97 is same as yours but has stripe. Move this to collectors page, sure the guys there could pin point it exactly with serial number.
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Thanks for your both Feedback on this.
Will check out the collectors page fo further details.
Have a nice Rest of Christmas Time 2014
Cheers
Marco
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Marco, I've seen a few of those No Stripes. Here is a pix of mine.
Number is TDHH-132
There is a way to tell by the number when it was made but I can't remember
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Kagyone/IMG_1523_zpsf7382110.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Kagyone/media/IMG_1523_zpsf7382110.jpg.html)
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Hi Gun!
Thanks for feedback and the pic with the beautyful risers. The Supreme simply looks awesome! My Supreme,I bought some years ago second hand, is a bit dull. Probably factory satin finish. Limbs and Riser.
Your`s No stripe riser serialnumber is not far away from mine TDHH-171. Will try to get more information about more exact production date.
Thanks a lot!!
Today I finally received my all Bubinga risers with 2 set of limbs. These were the last 2 combos the South german dealer could provide. When I finally assembled the bows, I became aware of a negative tiller. No matter how I mixed limb and riser combination, the tiller remain negative between - 1 and - 6 millimeter (6mm = quarter inch roughly.
I put my old Kodiak limbs on the new riser and it is perfect +4mm. I put the new limbs on my old Custom Kodiak B Riser and it was again negative. From my point of view the new limbs are incorrect tillered.
Any experiances like this??
PS: I assembled the limbs the correct way. No mix up between upper and lower limb.
PS: And the compass of the A Riser came off, when I put the riser out of the plastic sleeve. One drop of glue I could see at the bottom of he hole and a small piece of white wood that probably was glued in to keep the compass in a defined position in relationship to the surface of the riser.
Not really what I expect from an 500 bucks riser unfortunately. Otherwise nice piece of craftmanship.
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Marco, I think your bow is of the late 80's early 90's.
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Thanks for the information Cacciatore!
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Marco. Because of the locator holes, it's not possible to mix up the limbs, i.e., put a top on the bottom or vice versa. If both sets are the same weight and length, is it possible you may have mixed the pairs, i.e a top from one set, a bottom from the other?
A dab of clear acrylic calk works well to reset the compass. Will hold it in place well, but a little easier to remove if you ever have to. Good luck.
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Hi Orion, thanks for your comments! You are completely right, a mix up between Upper and lower limb is not possible. I totally ignored this fact. I got 2 risers, an A and a B riser. And i got 2 pair of limbs, one pair Short limbs that make a 60 Inch bow with the B riser and one pair Long limbs that make also a 60 inch bow with the A riser. Each combination, and i have tried all, Results in a negative tiller. Still waiting for the Email response of the dealer.
Marco
The stuff with the compass is not an serious issue, but not what i have expected from a Brand new riser. Can fix it, in case i should keep the bows. But i don't like negative tiller and can't Imagine to keep it like it is to be honest.
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Kermit check the locator hole on bottom limbs. If it's not deep enough it will keep limb from seating all the way down. Causing negative tiller. Just a guess. Jim
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Awesome bow and thread!
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My "A" Bubinga riser and 63 pound #3 limbs had a good week chasing pigs last week.
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/P1010358_1_zpsc1ae5888.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010358_1_zpsc1ae5888.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/P1010404_zps4cec9406.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010404_zps4cec9406.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/P1010452_zpsef925913.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010452_zpsef925913.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Nice!
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I really like my Bear TD. The pig didn't care for it so much. :D
(http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy241/davidmitchell_6466/Florida%20Hunt%202015/Hog%20hunt%202015%20009.jpg) (http://s796.photobucket.com/user/davidmitchell_6466/media/Florida%20Hunt%202015/Hog%20hunt%202015%20009.jpg.html)
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:) :)
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:thumbsup: :archer:
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Found this used TD B-handle. A "2014" Bubinga & black maple TD handle made in Dec. 2013. Serial # "BBTD-13 12-025"...Gonna hunt it real hard.
(http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae260/jlcoppen/2013%20TD%20a.png) (http://s977.photobucket.com/user/jlcoppen/media/2013%20TD%20a.png.html)
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Nice bow!
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Originally posted by R.V.T.B.:
My "A" Bubinga riser and 63 pound #3 limbs had a good week chasing pigs last week.
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/P1010358_1_zpsc1ae5888.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010358_1_zpsc1ae5888.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/P1010404_zps4cec9406.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010404_zps4cec9406.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/P1010452_zpsef925913.jpg.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/P1010452_zpsef925913.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Nice trifects on the pigs Randy!
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Brandon does it again.
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/zepnut/DSCF8092.jpg) (http://s581.photobucket.com/user/zepnut/media/DSCF8092.jpg.html)
(http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/zepnut/DSCF8095.jpg) (http://s581.photobucket.com/user/zepnut/media/DSCF8095.jpg.html)
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Ok, if you are going to buy, A handle with #3 limbs or B handle with # 1 limbs. What are the differences in the 60" bow.
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Great looking combo,Zepnut!
It is a couple of days that I have decided to use my Type1 A handle with #2 Rose Oak limbs,I find this combo smoother than the B riser with #1,same poundage.
The A riser with Brandon's limbs is as forgiving as the B.
As soon as I have my Crony ready I'll post some comparisons.
To my eye the B with the shorter limbs looks to be faster but the A with 2 is smoother.
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"To my eye the B with the shorter limbs looks to be faster but the A with 2 is smoother."
I agree with Felix. I have four of the A risers with #3's and five of the "B" risers with #1's, all making a 60 inch bow. I feel the "B" risers are more snappy but the "A" with long limbs is smoother and more forgiving.
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"Nice trifects on the pigs Randy!"
Thanks Jorge. That's a good looking two tone riser you posted above. I really like the ones with a "birthmark".
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A few pix of my recent "A" mag refinish. I used epoxy primer and Rust-Oleum Granite Texture paint. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Kagyone/Mag3_zpsjojdx7ay.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Kagyone/media/Mag3_zpsjojdx7ay.jpg.html) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v196/Kagyone/Mag1_zpstexmxkyf.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Kagyone/media/Mag1_zpstexmxkyf.jpg.html)
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Now that's a cool Mag riser for sure.
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Just got my first ever Bear takedown. Now I understand why everyone likes them so well.
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Nice job on that, Gun!
Always wondered what their Hammer paint would look like.
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I have two B-risers, one in bubinga and the other a magnesium riser. Love them both, its always hard to decide which to shoot.
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Very cool lookin Gun.....that is slick :thumbsup:
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Who can help tell me the year serial number B-6865 was made? Can find it any where, thanks
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I've been a longbow guy for over 20 years but the Bear takedown bug bit me pretty good thanks to everyone here haha, well this showed up at my front door Friday.Thanks to Big Jim. (http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z105/robertwholloway/KIMG0309.jpg) (http://s191.photobucket.com/user/robertwholloway/media/KIMG0309.jpg.html)
This is the coolest bow I've ever seen,and shoots good to boot. A riser #3 limbs
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Nice :)
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(http://i.imgur.com/l7wpLwu.jpg)
Never really been a big fan of black glass :)
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Looks fantastic ;)
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I like black glass but that looks great
and I love the grip!! :thumbsup:
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I was shooting my green stripe off the shelf but I recently put on a Bear WeatherRest. My bow was made around 1984 and back in that year I bought a new takedown that came with the WeatherRest installed. It definitely made the bow shoot more consistently.
(http://pmagistro.com/bows/Green%20Stripe%20Shelf.jpg)
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Wonder who a fella would write to at Bear and plead that they should reintroduce the first style riser with the light maple and green maple???? I love em ;)
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OK, was going to read all 50 pages but life to short. Has anyone tried the aftermarket limbs from Border Archery? They tend to push the envelope on design and materials. I am wondering how much that could be and if the cost is justified.
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I have not. But I will say that the new Bear limbs are very different than the older ones. Smooth and excellent performers. Probably won't match a Border but won't be far behind.
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I have 2 pair of #3 Rose Oak Bear limbs, and I really like them. I also have 2 sets of #1 Bear limbs, and they shoot just fine. The #3's are smoother, but they're also longer, so I expected that. I have no experience with Border limbs.
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I do have a pair of #3 Rose oak limbs as well. It may be me but I feel they perform as well as a set of Bear's #3 that are five pounds heavier.
One reason I asked question is I am coming to a cross roads. I know I will need to reduce pull weight in a few years. I have this dream of finding a set of limbs that will keep up with what I have. I would like to drop down to about 50#. I have tried 45# and their OK to 25 yards but I just can not get the longer ranges I like to shoot.
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I just experienced shooting the new bear TD bows and those are seriously cool risers..... I've got an itch to build some Static tip limbs that will fit those risers in the future.
If there is anyone interested in having a set of smokin limbs built that could send me a riser, i'd be up for it.... I would build the same SS design i'm building in ILF format now.
Please send me an email if this is something that interests you.... I've had several requests so far.
[email protected]
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ANYTHING you build limbs for Kirk, perks my interest!! :notworthy:
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I am so close to pulling the trigger on one of these Bear T/D bows. I have the cash but I would love to shoot one first.
I think one of these will compliment my 59 Kodiak and Super Grizzly.
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A Bear takedown with Kirks limbs :) :) :)
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hunterjrg: I was in the same boat a few months ago
I've never even seen one accept on the internet, but I wanted one bad, so I finally order one and I love it. and I was a longbow guy.
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I want one badly too. I need to spend this money quickly before my wife finds it. I read all fifty pages and like the looks of that slimmer babinga A riser or the two tone one.
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I got the two tone a riser with number 3 limbs i
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A or B riser.
I'll be calling Big Jims on Monday
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I ordered an A two-tone from Big Jim last evening. He just got a few in. With the discount and free shipping it was too good to pass up. Going to put an old set of red tip 50# limbs on it and see how it does.
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I can't believe this thread I started so long ago is still going. I think it's AWESOME!! Maybe we can catch the Hill Bow thread someday...hehe
Anyway, I've never held a Bear TD but have wanted one for a very long time, over 15 years I suspect. It was the first TRAD bow I wanted when I picked up a Bear Archery catalog in a tiny bow shop in my home town. I saw that rosewood and striped riser and I instantly wanted one. I thought it was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. I still think it's one of the prettiest bows ever made. That's the one I would love to have, but I think it is priced out of my range.
Right now I have a Morrison 17 inch aluminum riser that I swapped around and paid boot to get several months ago. It's pretty much mint. It's an ILF setup and I have a set of KAP carbon/wood limbs on it. I don't know exactly what I could get out of it if I sold it, but I would suspect it would be maybe $425 to $475 in that range. That's just a wild guess of course.
I am thinking about selling it in a couple months when I have my "fun money" built back up and using it, plus some of my own money to get me an "A" handle for a bow in the 45 to 50 pound range.
Then I wouldn't have to want for any other bows for a while. I would have a Bear TD, a Bear 1971 Grizzly and my new Hill style bow. Pretty much all the bases are covered in that scenario.
Lets see more pics.
Thanks all for keeping the info flowing in this thread. I really enjoy reading about all of your bows and thoughts on them.
Nalajr
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Let me know when your fun money is ready. I believe I might be able to set you up with a good A-mag riser and a set of limbs in your weight range, and stay within a reasonable budget too. It's the least a guy can do in exchange for you starting this cool thread.
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Something of my own making. Not a Bear but something to look at.
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/inrutelk/Dunaway20TD.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/inrutelk/media/Dunaway20TD.jpg.html)
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looks like a blacktail mated with a bear... nice work
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Inrut-very cool, nice job.
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Inrut I'm curious to know more :) very nice!!
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The riser woods are Pau Rosa and Wenge.
The limbs are #3's with maple cores and Canarywood veneers.The overlays are Macassar Ebony. The latches and yolks are brushed finished and black nickel plated. The sockets have been coated with Cerakote in a color that I mixed. The draw weight is 59 pounds at 26 inches.
Monte
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Wow! That bow is awesome Monte!
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Stunning inrut i love the look of that riser Just a question for you bear takedown experts can you run fast flight strings with padded loops or is that a no n9
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Stunning inrut i love the look of that riser Just a question for you bear takedown experts can you run fast flight strings with padded loops or is that a no no
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I'm not an expert but I use fastflight strings with padded loops on older limbs with no problem. I'm not saying you should, just that I've not had any problems in thousands of shots. I've only used wood risers and haven't done this on mag risers.
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Not quite as nice as yours Inrut but found this dusty brown stripe hanging on the wall of a bow shop new except a few arrow through it! Have been wanting one of this vintage for a LONG time.
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o762/chadorde/861492a1-a809-4816-923a-5159e226b746_zpspqnxk6kt.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/chadorde/media/861492a1-a809-4816-923a-5159e226b746_zpspqnxk6kt.jpg.html)
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o762/chadorde/image.jpg1_zpsvkagxmnc.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/chadorde/media/image.jpg1_zpsvkagxmnc.jpg.html)
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Got my A riser from Big Jim. Looked it over, shot it and then polished it up. I know folks like satin but, to me, this bow should be glossy.
(http://www.pmagistro.com/bows/Bear%20A.jpg)
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You always did nice work Phil. It looks good.
Shick
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Beautiful riser Inrut ;)
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Inrut, may I ask? Did you make all the metal parts or use the parts from an old Bear riser?
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I used parts out of a broken 2004 era riser. I have another A riser in the works using the same woods but with the classic Bear wedge style stripe. Thanks for the compliments guys!
Monte
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Looks fantastic!!!! Always wondered if someone had ever done it and you did it fantastic ;)
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I am not the first to make a riser like this. I know of at least five others who have done this.
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I saw one that was made from a broken riser for Rich Lopez. Like yours it was gorgeous. I am not ready to do that with my riser. I keep checking all the yard sales here hoping, maybe some day.
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Well it looks like i'm going to be building some of these now. I told the interested parties i'd give the first 5 guys to sign up for them a 20% discount.... I still have two more discount slots available...... first come... first serve.
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Kirk,
Package on the way.
Tom M
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Got you on the list Tom.... :thumbsup:
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Kirkll, what length will your static recurve limbs be.
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Been waiting a while to get this one!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/yohon/IMG_1551_zps2azj7oed.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/yohon/media/IMG_1551_zps2azj7oed.jpg.html)
Wicked black!!! Got things rigged up today and I grabbed an arrow with a broadhead to see how lucky I was and that arrow went down range without a wiggle....nothin but a ball of fletch, have had a stupid grin on my face ever since ;)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/yohon/IMG_1549_zpskwdyzf6f.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/yohon/media/IMG_1549_zpskwdyzf6f.jpg.html)
Want to try and find a medium and high wrist grip to try and might play with a feather rest too but am tickled with how well it points and shoots.
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Yohon, did you paint the riser or someone else? Looks really good, it may be what I do with my A mag riser.
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That's slick looking Yohon :)
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That black on black makes a really good set up. Those stainless steel screws made a nice little detail.
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Paul, I got the riser and it was repainted, whomever did a pretty good job with the refinish job, its exactly how I would have done it. Yeah the stainless screws look pretty cool...as good as it shooting it's looking really cool to me!!!
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Originally posted by ron w:
Kirkll, what length will your static recurve limbs be.
Good question bro.... I'm thinking i'll probably start out with #2's and #3 lengths. I don't know if i'll even offer the #1 shorty's.... I'll need to get some of these laid up and tested before making any bold statements.
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You gotta try the shortys!
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At least try, dont think anyone makes the #1s, I may be wrong...
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Rose Oak makes #1 limbs. He does not list them on website. Email him.
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#2 and #3 sound good to me.
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Mr Kirk, are those Bear limbs the same price as your ILF limbs? Thank you Sir ;)
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Originally posted by cmh:
Mr Kirk, are those Bear limbs the same price as your ILF limbs? Thank you Sir ;)
They will be priced the same as the ILF limbs listed on my web site....But.... there is still one slot left at 20% discount if you sign up now. That will save you $100
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Dose any one know how many A mag riser wear made iv been trying to find one for a few weeks now
Cheers Jim
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Originally posted by Kirkll:
Originally posted by cmh:
Mr Kirk, are those Bear limbs the same price as your ILF limbs? Thank you Sir ;)
They will be priced the same as the ILF limbs listed on my web site....But.... there is still one slot left at 20% discount if you sign up now. That will save you $100 [/b]
Thank you Sir
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I keep looking at these post and have always liked the looks of the Kodiak With that said, I have been shooting a Black Widow for years. So for those of you that have shot both. How does the bear grip and the standard BW grip compare? I have a new model 59 and although I fine shooting bow the grip does not suite me, it's too small for my taste.
Thanks for any help
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MCNSC, Bear grips seem to have changed over the years. There was a time guys complained they were to fat. So Bear now has gone back to the slimmer grips.
My BW made in the mid 80's had a bulky grip. For some reason I could not get into that bow which was odd because I used to build up the grips on my compounds when I was on the dark side. Not everyone is alike, but to answer your question, yes, there is a difference, just my results are opposite.
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Over the years there have always been differences in Bear grips because different guys did the shaping. Compared to the Black Widows I've owned Bear grips are slimmer in the throat area. On the newer Bears the B handles seem to be a bit slimmer than the A handles. I have a B Bubinga that is very slender in the throat. Thinner than a mid-80s green stripe I have. I have a new two-tone A that is slim but just a bit meatier than the B. I read on another forum that three of Bear's long-time employees retired and new folks are taking their place.
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The standard grip on my PCH feels much better than the grip on my new Bear A riser. The 1R grip on my A mag riser also feels slimmer and better than the wood A riser. I am seriously considering breaking out the file and sander.....
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Interesting. I actually like a bit fuller grip.
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Ok, so how do the A riser grips compare to the new model 59s? I am real close to purchasing a used take down with an A riser but have never saw one in person and it's hard to tell by pics. Like mentioned above the grip on the 59 is too small for my taste.
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Think the grips may change a little year to year. My '07 A grip is pretty darn small. I had it beefed a bit with a beavertail grip that makes it feel better in my hand. Sooooo for an accurate answer you might tell a year of make. Sounds like Pauls is chunkier.
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I have both. The grip on the 59 is more like a longbow grip. The grip in the A riser is more substantial. It may be a good idea to buy a bow you can return if you don't like it. I can tell you that I have had a lot of bows, custom and production. I am in the position of having to reduce my number of bows. I've gotten rid of many with good grips like old Howatts, Browning Explorers and Howard Gamemaster Jets. The bows I am keeping to hunt with are the Bear Takedowns.
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Don't get me wrong, the wood A riser has a good, solid grip and it's not bad at all. I just like the standard Black Widow and 1R mag grip better. Sounds like you'll have to just try one for yourself.
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Originally posted by inrut:
Something of my own making. Not a Bear but something to look at.
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/inrutelk/Dunaway20TD.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/inrutelk/media/Dunaway20TD.jpg.html)
Looks amazing. Congratulations!!!!
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My new to me "A" mag riser and #2 limbs should get here Thursday or Friday. I can't wait to shoot it and see what this is all about. Heck I may have to even take it hunting at some point.
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Inrut: I've never seen the brackets into which the limbs are seated separate from the riser. It's my understanding that they have a metal spine that fits into a cut in the riser. How are they held in place, epoxy?. Beautiful riser, BTW.
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Here is what they look like. The sockets have two fins or spines as you called them. They are glued in with epoxy.
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/inrutelk/sockets.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/inrutelk/media/sockets.jpg.html)
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Thanks. Trying to visualize how the slots would be cut into the riser. Must take a special jig (or jigs) of some sort. Can see that the circular indentations would enable the epoxy to form a series of stop blocks, so to speak, preventing it from pulling out.
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Nice stuff Monte! :thumbsup:
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inrut, are those metal or plastic?
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The sockets are made from aluminum.
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Bear made a takedown in the 80s that had a green stripe and sort of a greenish hue and made one around 2010 with a redstripe and greenish hue. What's the fair market rate for one of those these days if they can be found? With Kirk making limbs I'm a wanting :) Thanks
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Saw a green stripe on another site. Asking $700 with limbs. That riser has become more popular as people discover it has a very nice grip.
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Possible you could message me the website please? Thanks
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Its my bow. 812-871-1666
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Well that was quick..... Before long I'll be the proud owner of a very nice green stripe takedown :)
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Congratulations! Looking forward to some photos and your thoughts on the bow.
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Thank you Sir. Have always had an eye for one and now I'm finally getting one. It's a true blessing as a fellow Hoosier was very accommodating so I could get it ;)
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You'll be very happy.
Green stripe models are among the best Bear made.
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Originally posted by Kirkll:
Originally posted by cmh:
Mr Kirk, are those Bear limbs the same price as your ILF limbs? Thank you Sir ;)
They will be priced the same as the ILF limbs listed on my web site....But.... there is still one slot left at 20% discount if you sign up now. That will save you $100 [/b]
My green stripe riser is gonna look real good sporting the 5th Slot limbs from Kirk. :bigsmyl:
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Anxious to see it when it's done Mr O'Shay. I have pics on my cell but no way of posting them....
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I brought my green stripe with 2 sets of limbs in ruff condition i love it it is one of the best shooting 3pc bows i own
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My Black Mag riser will look real good with a set of black limbs from Kirk as well.
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Philip, I've always felt the same - that Green Stripes were among the best but can you tell me why you think that? I should add that I think the Green Stripes up to about serial #6000 were the best. I'm not crazy about the Green Stripes after the switch from Futurewood and the addition of all the inserts.
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My new to me "A" Mag came today......there is a post with a photo. Looks darn good......if it stops raining I'll shoot it this afternoon.
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Phil - My green stripe is #B-50XX and is sans all the inserts and bells and whistles you mentioned above. The grip fits my hand like it was made just for me. Although my friends 2014 black with red stripe looks real good, I'll take my green stripe over that one any day. Guess I'm just set in my ways....... :saywhat:
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Danny, Mine is #B-52XX and the same as yours. I love the grip. I do have a couple of newer ones and really like the looks of bubinga risers but the green stripe just shoots well for me.
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The way you gentleman are carrying on about greenstripes has me chomping at the bit to get mine. :)
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Well I just purchased a Bubinga A risered model,( used)should get it this week. Really looking forward to it. Never held one much less shot one. Hoping it works for me.
Looking at all the posted pics of the TDs with quivers, I think I would like an origional Bear quiver for it, but not sure. How are those quivers as far as weight and noise?
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MCNSC, those quivers may need some TLC to quite them down. We used to put 4 arrows in an 8 arrow quiver. My buddy gave me an 8 arrow quiver with two hold down brackets. It was made for Bear's first compound bows. It is longer also, it works fine. Unfortunly it does not work on the early risers or my Mag riser. The orginal quivers do inhance the bows look IMO.
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I use a Great Northern on my Bubinga riser and like it a lot. Lightweight and solid.
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I have a period correct Bear quiver with the spring arm on top and the bracket on the bottom for the side screw insert. Works like it was made for the bow......... :saywhat:
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This is MY opinion of the perfect Bear T/D quiver.
It was made from a Bear compound 4 arrow, a 4 arrow spring arm, a Selway gripper, and some parts of my own making. I shortened the compound quiver about 3" and made new brackets to reattach the hood. This longer version gets the hood up higher and allows for more of the arrow to be supported which reduces vibration. I added a section of a Selway gripper on the inside of the bottom bracket making it up to a six arrow quiver. I can get six Zwickey Deltas in the 4 arrow hood if needed. I made the bottom bracket to attach it to the riser so the arrows sit angled back toward the bow string. This helps keep dirt out of the nocks when lowering the bow from a tree stand. I made my own spring arm as the factory 4 arrow version was too long. It is heat treated spring steel. I have access a full machine shop and can make about anything including making my own bending jig to bend my spring arm, and dies to make my brackets. My spring arm is covered in silicone tubing. It is much better than the dipped plastic used by Bear which is uneven and makes noise against the limb due to not sitting flat on the limbs surface. I am currently making a mold to make the hood out of carbon fiber. The hood is the weak link as they become brittle. I plan on painting the new hood and applying a Bear silk screen to keep the period correct look. I have these on my Mag risers as well.
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/inrutelk/DSC01222.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/inrutelk/media/DSC01222.jpg.html)
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/inrutelk/DSC01428.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/inrutelk/media/DSC01428.jpg.html)
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I really like that quiver, will probably try to get one some time and do the modifications you did. Especially like the offset bracket.
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Wow, thats a nice set up! Like how the arrows match the bow.
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Now that is nice rig. Being I have a couple of those quivers hanging on the wall I may try something like you made. You are right about the hoods, I have had a couple crack at the brass rivets. I use epoxy and thin plastic to repair and strengthen.
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Got my new to me TD today. It is 60" and 47 @28. Think I am really going to like this bow. Was worried about the grip but I really like it. The shelf is right at your hand. There is something special about these bows, it just feels right.
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Anyone able to help me on the brace height, for my new A-handle,with #1 limbs, that will be coming next week...??? :bigsmyl:
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I like it a hair over 8", hope you like :)
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On my new to me "A" mag with #2 limbs....7 3/4"
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I run my A handle w/#1 limbs at 8 1/4".
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A week away from getting my green stripe B riser with #45 lb limbs and cannot wait :) :) Mr Stegner who is a member here has been more than accommodating so I can finally have the takedown model I want :) Thank you Sir ;)
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I have a ca 2000 era B-riser brownstripe on its way, arriving on Monday. Interestingly it's coming with Grayling White #1 limbs for 31# on the B-riser. Looking forward to having a lighter poundage bow to be able to work on my form with.
I have a few vintage Bears but this will be my first takedown.
Now to find some mid-40# hunting limbs!
AJ
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:)
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Can't wait to hear your impressions after shooting them.
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I DO!!! I DO!!!!! I DO!!!!!!!!!! :bigsmyl: :thumbsup:
I got my new two-tone A Handle, with 50# Bubinga & White tips #1 limbs, in the mail today!!!!!
Shot for an hour in the back yard this afternoon, and she is a SWEET Shooter!!!!! :archer:
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:)
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Originally posted by woodchucker:
I DO!!! I DO!!!!! I DO!!!!!!!!!! :bigsmyl: :thumbsup:
I got my new two-tone A Handle, with 50# Bubinga & White tips #1 limbs, in the mail today!!!!!
Shot for an hour in the back yard this afternoon, and she is a SWEET Shooter!!!!! :archer:
Congrats on your new bow. I got my first Bear takedown about a month ago,Two tone A riser #3 limbs 47@28 coolest bow Ive ever shot.
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Bear A mag riser I had cerakoted flat black. I have #1 and #3 limbs with a Ten Ring string for each set of limbs. This is a great setup for me.
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Very nice :)
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Paul, what quiver is that?
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Originally posted by ksbowman:
Paul, what quiver is that?
It's a Kanati from Annewakee Archery, John hooked me up.
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Great looking rig Paul!!
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Good looking bow and quiver!!! :thumbsup:
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Yes it is a great looking rig and I like that quiver ;)
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Very nice Paul....after this season I think I'm going to cerakote my mag riser.
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Thanks guys. I like the cerakote, seems really durable.
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It is a sweet looking setup.
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:thumbsup:
Love them Mags!
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O.K..... so I admit that I have a wee little problem with Bear bows. I like the T/D's a LOT! When Bear reintroduced the T/D back in 2011 I ended up picking up an A & a B in the Dymondwood. Then an A & B in the Bubinga risers. Next year they brought out the grey Futurewood and I picked up an A & a B. The next year they brought out the two tone Bubinga and grey Futurewod risers. I picked up a B but had held off on an A for awhile. Well, Big Jim had his Memorial Day sale on Bear bows and I rectified that situation.
Here is my two tone "A" riser with #3 limbs making a 60" bow. This one is about 64-65 pounds at my draw length and very, very purty!
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Nice! :thumbsup: :archer:
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Totally awesome ! Page after page of history and fine bows. I've finally found one ! I have an 80's Green Stripe riser coming to the Bluegrass from Michigan. Thank you Gary Smith !! Hoping to find some limbs soon.
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Mr Roberts Sir, don't know if your aware but Kirk Lavender if Bigfoot Bows is building limbs for the Bear takedowns...... My green stripe should be here next week and I'm looking at ordering a set for mine. Congrats :)
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Hey cmh, thank you very much for the info. I've seen the limbs you are talking about and they look great. I just now got off the phone, ordering a set with Debbie, at Big Jim's. That's what I like about this place. Everyone always keeping people up to date and sharing good information. Thanks again.
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New to me Bear in the stable, an early 2000s era B-Riser.
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Jack_Breeding/TDH614c_zpszay4hnl3.jpg)
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Came with a set of light-weight Grayling target limbs. 31# on the B-Riser.
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(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Jack_Breeding/TDH614e_zps64cspwxx.jpg)
This is my first Bear TD so I was expecting the typical Bear coin but instead there was this one. Kinda cool and unique.
(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e341/Jack_Breeding/TDH614a_zpswzkniukl.jpg)
Also came with a load of other goodies, a pack of Bear Super-Razorheads, wax, etc. Took it out with some light-spined arrows but they were all over the place. So as a test I flung a few of my hunting-spine arrows for my upper-40# bows and they flew great!
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Welcome to the club. :)
Hope you enjoy the bow as muc as the rest of us do.
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Just like mine. There is a name for the Fred Bear coin but can not remember it. I got mine in 97. I like the grip.
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The Freddy Krueger coin
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Amberjack congrats on your new takedown ;) I'm in countdown mode now myself..... Just a few more days until my green stripe gets to its forever home ;)
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Thanks R.V.T.B., have to write that down. May be priceless 40 years from now.
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That looks great. Yea, have never seen a coin like that. Awesome bow !
cmh, I'm waiting on my greenstripe and limbs also. Shooting my Hunter TD while I'm waiting. I'll be hunting with it at the beginning of bow season. It's been from my hands, to my cousin, to my brother and now back home. It hasn't made meat yet, so it is overdue. It slings the ole XX75's with authority. C ya.
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Those early-2000 risers are great. I really like the low-cut shelf.
That's a good looking one.
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Give me a few days and I will post some pics of one of these TDs that does not have the ugly limb brackets.
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Crooked Stix, are you trying to tell us you have one of Brandon's bows coming?
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My green stripe got shipped today.. ..... The anticipation ;) Sunday after church there is gonna be some string pulling :)
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Lordy, Lordy. That looks GOOD.
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Beautiful bow ;)
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Superbe !
It's very beautifull !!!!
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That, my friends, is a beautiful bow. :thumbsup:
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I agree. That is stunning.
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Thierry,you are killing me.
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Bonjour CACCIATORE
C'est à cause du talent de Monsieur Stahl ....... :clapper:
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4 1/2 more hours until I can get home and unpack my new to me green stripe takedown :)
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My Bmag turned up yesterday and it shoots just as good as my 88 wood b handle.
I also brought a set of 74# #3 limbs built by paul shafer and a Amag so hopefully they dont take to long to get hear
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Good for you :)
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Big Jim had a awesome A riser I could not resist. It has the "birth marks" on it.
Pics coming soon
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Well..... I unpacked my green stripe and cannot say how happy I am with the bow. Mr Stegnar is a member here and really went above and beyond so I could get it. One of my bucket list bows and what a sweet shooter. Now I'm saving for a bow that doesn't exist but will soon.... Not ready to let the cat out of the bag yet ;) i would post pics of my green stripe but only have cellphone access so ;)
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I bought a A riser black maple at the compton shoot this year with #3 limbs and absolutely love it. I shoot this bow very very well. Now Im considering selling one of my shafers to purchase a two tone set up. Did I just really say that?
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:)
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I love the birthmarks in the impregnated wood riser.... no two are exactly alike. And it shoots.... Yeah it shoots well :)
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I'm new to this thread but definitely caught the Bear TD bug a couple months back. Love my 2014, black red stripe maple TD. Came with #1, 50@28 red tip limbs, and I've already picked up a new set of #3, 45@28 red tip limbs from Big Jim. Hard to beat that combination. Really have enjoyed reading all the post and seeing all the pictures of your great Bear bows. Keep it up. :thumbsup:
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Wow, I can't believe that I have missed the last 20 pages of this thread. I think I started this thread with 2 Bear T/D's and because of it I now have 4. two A's and two B's. 3 of the 4 sport Rose Oak Limbs. I have all 3 sets in roughly the same weights depending on the configuration. My favorite so far are the number two limbs with a maple core. these limbs were quiet right out of the box with a B-50 string. I made my own FF string with 12 strands and added some yarn silencers to it along with some yarn wrappings at both ends of the string and when I took the bow to Compton's last week-end, other people commented to me that they could not hear the shot. It will be my hunting bow this year. :)
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I had the opportunity to shoot a couple of the new phenolic SK's this weekend and loved how they are shaping the handles on them. Very similar to my 66 Kodiak's handle. Are the new B riser handles shaped similarly or are they done differently. I have not found a shop that has a new B riser in stock to look at. I need to decide which is the best for me before buying.
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Sorry guys, I win, got the best looking ever IMO
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That's a looker for sure!
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Mark, that's a great looking riser, I like the blonde streaks. Is that a set of #1's on there? ;)
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Yep, those are your limbs Paul. Kind of surprised at the arrows it likes. GT 7595, 31" regular insert with 150 gr point. I draw around 29". they fly great.
Looking for a set of #3 just to try. This will be my elk rig this year.
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Got back from my bear hunt where I spent some time learning more about Bear T/D from some of the guys in camp. The "A Mag" I bought is neat and I knew the guy I got bought it from also had a "B Mag" original with the hammer tone finish. So I contacted him and it will be on it's way to me next week.
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You have to be careful with the Bear T/D's Ron. I have nine on the wall now, just got an A mag riser in Monday and just worked out a deal on another bow today. Them things is addictive!
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So Ron, did the B Mag arrive?
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How many of those who use the Bear takedown actually take it apart? I'm not wanting to start an argument, but am just curious, I have another brand of takedown & think I've used that feature only about 5 times in 10 years.
The Bear takedown has almost a cult following & I know that's the one Fred used the last years of his hunting career. I'm just curious.
I am a fan of Bear bows, but don't have the takedown.
Thanks.
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Because of a lack of wall space I keep mine disassembled and in a hard case. If I am shooting one of my TD combo's then I make room on wall by casing another recurve.
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Two hanging up one in a box never opened guess that doesn't count. I pull them apart for travel and if I swap limbs around that's about it.
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Frank, I take mine apart a lot, especially to travel. Plus I change limbs out between the risers I have.
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The "B MAG" came in the mail and it's a nice one. I also picked up a pair of #3 red tip limbs. This will make up a 64" 43# bow that looks real neat. I got sick so I haven't shot it yet. But I'm looking forward to it. So I have an A and a B black mag riser with a set of #2 and #3 limbs @ 45#. I will call them the raven twins......lol
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I take mine down for travel, but at home it stays strung.
Jack
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You guys are killing me! I've been trying to acquire a TD in the right specs for months now, and some of you seem to find deals every other day. Of course, every time something close shows up, it's either out of my price range, or someone else snatches it up quick. Guess I'll just have to keep trying. Lol.
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Pheonixarcher,
What specs are you looking for? One of us might be able to lead you to something that works out for you.
Joe
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Ron - Raven twins sounds like a good name except that I'm a Steelers fan. :)
64" should be smooth as butter on the draw. Good luck!
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How about one without the ugly limb brackets. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v75/crookedstic/Mobile%20Uploads/2015-06/20150624_180634_zpsnrg3jz6p.jpg)
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Brandon makes great bows. This is a beautiful bow but not as functional as the no-tools Bear if you don't have an allen wrench.
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That's a beauty there, love the green! I like the metal brackets though.
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Beautiful bow, but I am with Chad. I like the metal brackets. They are what make a Bear a Bear. I wish Bear would make the T/D in the green future wood like on the new Kodiak Magnum.
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On a takedown, the brackets are beautiful. I love the look of one piece bows as well but count me a fan of the no-tools Bear.
Jack
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Originally posted by Amberjack:
On a takedown, the brackets are beautiful. I love the look of one piece bows as well but count me a fan of the no-tools Bear.
Jack
Me too. :thumbsup:
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Anybody looking for a very nice green stripe takedown at B riser 45# holler at me ;)
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Just bought a two tone A-riser to go with my redstripe, the craftsmanship of the new bears is outstanding and customer service is tops.
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A two-tone A is my most recent one as well. Haven't had to use customer service but the craftsmanship is excellent.
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Just picked one up at Denton Hill, most accurate bow I've ever shot. 97-99, B riser with 55# limbs, bought a pair of 58# limbs also. Shoots great, to say the least !
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:)
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Can someone suggest a good type of string, I know it can't take fast flight string. It has D97 on it now,any thing better out there ?
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I believe D97 is FF material.
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I have a two tone A riser, Bubinga and Dymonwood, i think its from 2014, that i love. I also have a B riser and white tip limbs from early 2000, that i bought from a fella, that never even strung the bow, it was new! Only thing is the handle area is thinner, not liking that one as much for that reason.
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I just added two more to the rack...
A Bubinga A riser with 57 pound #3 limbs and a grey futurewood A riser with 45 pound #3 limbs.
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Hi R.V.T.B,
Do you show us some pics of your new ones?
Would be happy to see the both A risers.
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Originally posted by njloco:
Can someone suggest a good type of string, I know it can't take fast flight string. It has D97 on it now,any thing better out there ?
There are quite a few different types of string material i like WAY better than D97 ... Rhino is my favorite, but D-10 is good too, and i've heard great things about the BCY-X but haven't tried it yet..... 450 plus is an excellent soft string with very little stretch, but it doesn't wear as well as Rhino string by half.
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I found D97 noisy. By the time I loaded the string with junk to quite it down I lost any benefit of the FF limbs. Now use skinny strings from SBD.
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I tried a Fury string from TenRingStrings this past spring. Love it! Fast and quiet and he makes one of the best looking strings around. I have since put them on all of my bows.
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It has been a busy summer and I have been able to add several Bear Take downs to the harem, starting with the two tone A riser that I posted photos of earlier. Then I picked up a couple more.
(http:// [url=http://s300.photobucket.com/user/stykshooter/media/A%20mag%20riser_zps9nvdsdhj.png.html] [img]http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn23/stykshooter/A%20mag%20riser_zps9nvdsdhj.png)[/url] [/IMG]
Here is a nice 1974 A mag riser that I picked up this summer.
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I was lucky enough to come across a great deal on a Gray futurewood A riser with #1 limbs. I sold them to a friend and bought a new set of 45 pound #3 limbs. I really like the looks of this riser.
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I was lucky enough to come across a great deal on a Gray futurewood A riser with #1 limbs. I sold them to a friend and bought a new set of 45 pound #3 limbs. I really like the looks of this riser.
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I had a friend wanting to buy one of my Gray bows off of me. I ended up finding a great deal on the exact same bow that he wanted and got it in. As he had a good looking Bubinga A riser with #3 57 pound limbs, we just traded bows.
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Looks great I just love those #3 limbs so smooth!
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Gorgeous!!!
Thanks for sharing!
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Nice! Love my Bubinga B-handle.
Tom
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I know they should all be the same but I like the way an A handle fits my hand. The gray futurewood looks very nice to me but, after a while, I have to stop and ask myself how many do I really need.
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Here is a couple pictures of the new limbs I just finished for my A mag. I just had to try the green glass that was available. The limbs are #3's with Maple cores, black Phenolic fadeout wedges and black glass overlays.
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii66/inrutelk/4976058f-8c8a-491e-b3ad-d92fe2e1945e.jpg) (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/inrutelk/media/4976058f-8c8a-491e-b3ad-d92fe2e1945e.jpg.html)
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Very nice.
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:bigsmyl: :thumbsup: :archer:
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Those limbs are dynamite!
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Now that is color coordinated! You did a real nice job on those limbs.
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Cool limbs
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I just acquired a mag a handle and the limbs seem to be drilled wrong. The only way they can mount is with the emblems upside down. Anybody have any ideas. Thanks
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Is the tiller measure upside down also? If so remove screws from riser install limbs and shoot it
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Sweeeeeeeeet limbs.
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How do those Mag riser bows shoot. Always liked the looks of them and they appear to bullet proof for a hunting bow.
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I have a magnesium A riser and I love it, its my main bow now. I dont have to worry about denting it,if I scratch it up I can just repaint it,it has a stabilizer mount for a fish reel,and it is the ultimate backpacking/camping bow. The fact you can change grips is a big plus in my eyes. I prefer the high grip. When I got it it had no rest,plate or the little plastic peice for the sight window,I had to make those things myself.
I think this is the ultimate working mans/survival bow.
Iam using 2015 bear limbs 52 pounds,and they shoot pretty fast for low poundage(low for me) Just bare shaft tuned for wood arrows and it uses 65-70 spine,which is abnormally high for what most my bows require.
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I have the B Mag riser. Same same I got it because I dropped a brand new wood riser out of a tree. I shoot it better than my wood riser. I believe it is more center shot than my wood riser. Right now I have a set of Rose Oak 53# limbs mounted on the riser. Wish they made the riser agian but with a few updates like forged alum. like bear uses for their compounds.
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One thing for sure "Crooked Stic" that is one great looking riser. Brandon does beautiful work. Congrats on your new bow. :campfire:
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Just picked up a used set of newer, i.e., last couple of years, No 1 red tip limbs. When I put them on my riser, the several strings I have for my existing set of old red tip No. 1 limbs were too long. Hmmmmm.
So I set the limbs next to each other. The newer limbs are 1/2 to 5/8-inch shorter. Same curvature, etc., just end about a half inch sooner. Instead of a 56-inch bow, I apparently have a 55-inch bow. Or, are my old red tips long, and did they really make a 57-inch bow.? My strings for the old set of limbs are just a tad longer than 53 inches, which would be the AMO standard for a 56-inch bow. I'll need a string closer to 52 inches for the newest limbs. Anybody else experience this? Did I just get a stunted set of limbs, or are all the newer limbs shorter?
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Well I think it is time to loo for a Mag Riser. What is a fair price for one one in good condition. I don't thick I will be that particular and take an a b or c depending what i find.
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I have a A and a B mag riser. I bought them this spring at a price of $275 each. One was refinished, one was original.
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I paid about 220 for my mag A riser,but it needed to be repainted and had no rest, plate or sight window plastic piece.
I made a plate from a coffee can and it is either centershot or past center,it is very accurate.
If anyone has a spare plastic solid sight window for an A riser I would be interested. They seem hard to find and my ice cream lid replacement isnt cutting it in the looks department!
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I will start out by, " I need another bow like I need a hole in my head" but where can I look for a Bear take down for sale? I keep an eye on this site and others but folks seem to hang on to them. I would like to find one with a wood handle and limbs about 40# or so. Can someone point me in the right direction. and I can't afford a new one so my wife says that's out.
PM me with info if you would please.
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Jon,
Long Range Archery in Holland has a new bubinga A handle (I think a 2012/13 model), #1 limbs, 40 lb in stock, they have it priced at about $720 (a used one just sold on the action site for about that price). They may make you a deal to get it off the shelf as it has been in stock for a couple of years. Otherwise watch the auction site as the Mag handles sell for around $400.
The question I have is how hard is to find the grips for the Mag handles, is there someone selling them?
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Take a look at the classifieds.
I just listed my NEW green stripe that I recently bought from the old stock of a sporting goods store back room. It breaks my heart to part with it, but I need to raise some money.
Last Arrow: I have a few Mag grips that I can part with. Are you looking for right hand or left hand?
I will have some other Bear TD limbs and risers from my collection for sale in a few months.
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Jon, you have been bitten by the bug. :)
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After reading all of this thread, I too think it is time for me to try one of these bows. I have a question though. I currently have a early 70's Kodiak Hunter and the grip is a high wrist and I cannot shot it well at all. The TD's look more like a medium wrist grip. Can someone confirm what type of grip are on these bows. Thanks,Jeff
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I've been shooting and hunting with mag handled bows for a long time. I have both A B and C handles, though the A is my favorite. I use one with a No 3 limb 60# and another with a No 2 limb at 53# and have other lighter limbs as well. These make superb hunting bows. I guess I should list my B mag handles as they just sit under the bed. The A's handle my 27" draw just fine.
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Top Gun:
The mag risers have removable grips so they can be high, medium or low wrist, depending on what grip you put on them.
In the wood risers, the A riser is kind of medium wrist and the B riser is somewhat lower.
None of them are as low as a straight grip, but the B wood riser and the low mag grip are about the same and comfortably low.
I find the removable high mag grip to be a lot like the K-Hunter grip.
I can shoot the medium grip (wood A or mag med) and the low grip (wood B and mag low) equally well, as the difference is not too pronounced.
I hope that information helps.
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smoking joe, yes it does help. Thanks for replying.
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Bought a TD I little while back and it shoots great, as good as any bow I have shot one question though, it needs an extremely high nock point and I ended up putting a Bear Weather rest on it to get my fetching to stop hitting my bow hand. I had a Morrison once that shot great but needed a higher nock point. Any others have this issue?
Like I said the bow shoots great and will probably be my go to hunting bow this year, but I do wish I could shoot it off the shelf.
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How high is your nock point? Some TDs need 3/4" or even 7/8" depending on how well the pair of limbs are timed to each other. Don't be afraid to raise it up more. Also, do the afraid to raise the brace height. Most of my TDs want a brace of 8.25" to 8.5" to shoot well. Both nock height and brace height can effect the fletch clearance.
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I have a couple of friends that really like the mags even better than the wood risers for hunting. Interesting that they both like A mags with #3 limbs.
Someday I'll have to get one to see what the fuss is about. They'll have to go some to beat my wood handled takedowns.
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Can someone tell me the size designation of the Phillips head Machine screws that anchor the sight plate and the adjustable side plate? How about a source?
Thanks in advance, Daryl
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I found the screws at a hobby shop that specializes in RC cars and planes. Sorry do not have packages anymore.
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Trap, check your PM's
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got in touch with Monte, thanks
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Another term for traditional might be classic. Classic is something that is hard to improve on if not impossible. The Bear take down fits in that category and is something that you would not want to change a thing about.
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I used one of my two tone A riser with #3 64 lb limbs to take an elk in colorado a couple weeks ago, hunting partner used a greenstripe, we both used bear razorheads, bet that aint happened on the same mountain in awhile.
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The Bear TD is a classic design. While many custom bowyer tweak their models over the years, changing riser styles, lengths, etc. the Bear is essentially the same today as it was when introduced over 45 years ago. The only changes have been in the wood combinations. With Howatt going to new ownership the Bear TD may be the last bow still built today as it was when it first came out decades ago.
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I love them all but my Bubinga Riser is my favorite to shoot.
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Wonderful Collection! Congratulations!
What makes the all Bubinga your favorite shooting bow?
I recently got the chance to buy an all Bubinga second hand. But still have to shoot it a first time.
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How would they shoot for someone with a really short draw length...say 24.5 "?
Is there anyone else who produces a takedown with such a locking mechanism? I don't like using hex screws as I am always scared of over tightening. I also don't fancy paying a 2-30 yr old bow for 600 dollars, so if you know of an alternative maker of such a bow I would be must appreciated.
Cheers
Alex
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Alex, You can buy a brand new Bear T/D for about $800 (US)
An "A" handle, with #1 limbs, makes a 56" bow. (Like I have) Perfect for a shorter draw!!! :thumbsup:
Subtract about 3# for every inch under 28" to get your desired draw weight.
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HI Woodchucker,
Thanks for the information and recommendation. My draw is 25", so I will look for an A riser. I think I will have to buy one over there and ship it here... I haven't see any outlets here for Bear takedowns.
In anycase, I think I am look for used...For now, atleast.
Cheers
Alex
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Hi Alex!
I see you are from Germany.
Check out www.alpenpfeilchen.de (http://www.alpenpfeilchen.de)
This Pro Shop is one of the few dealer in Germany who has the Bear custom Kodiak's in Stock. A Riser and B Riser.
And the owner has a good Bear Archery knowledge.
Buying overeseas causes 19 % german Sales Tax at time of Import and shipping cost.
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Hi Kermit,
Thanks for the link, I will have a look at it now..
Alex
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Love the Bubinga TD, modified this quiver a little to match the bow better. spreading out the contact points make the system a lot more stable and keeps the arrows from flopping around.
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Nice looking quiver, Trap!!!!! :thumbsup:
You always seem to come up with the COOLEST Ideas!!!!! :notworthy:
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Well, I haven't had much time to hunt so far... Tyler's Football team is doing VERY WELL!!! However, The late night practices & weekend games have the poor kid (& ME) EXHAUSTED!!! LMAO!
Good thing is, I have been shooting my new Two Tone "A" handle EVERY DAY!!!!! Now Folks... This is an EXTREMELY rare fore me!!! As some of you well know, Old Woodchucker is a VERY superstitious Indian!!!!! Going back to my old compound days, MANY years ago, I'd go out to practice & have one of those BAD days... "It CAN'T be me??? I was busting nocks YESTERDAY!!! SO... I'd fiddle with the sights & soon my bow was as screwed up as ever!!! Then, I tossed the sights... Nothing to screw around with & screw up, RIGHT????? WRONG!!!!! What happened was, my confidence would be SEVERELY shaken!!! I go out & miss shot after "dead nuts" shot, at Deer all season!!! When I got back into "Traditional" Bowhunting about 20 years ago, I solved the problem. Deer Season opened..... Practice STOPPED!!!!! I'd always carry a blunt or Judo in my quiver for stumps or squirrels, but serious "out back" target practice, was put on hold. Hey, after all... I was "In there" all year!!! Think what you may, it worked for me.
Well My Friends, This year is "different".....
With my best friend & hunting buddy "busy" and a brand new bow on the rack, "The Itch" just needs to be scratched. So every day, I take my new "A" handle T/D out to play!!! Poor "Buddy the Button Buck" is looking PRETTY SAD!!! (OK so his horns fell off... They were too big for his head & they made him look STUPID!!!) EVERY shot, is in the deer target, and most of them are right in the boiler-room!!!!! Needless to say, when the time comes, I'm READY!!!!!
My confidence has NEVER been this high before!!!!! :archer:
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I've been using a green stripe for most of the season but I just picked up a pair of #2 white tip limbs that make a 58", 48# bow on my A two-tone handle. This is a very sweet setup and shoots like a dream. The green stripe is going back on the wall for a while.
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My Red Stripe with #2 Rose Oak limbs.
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Just got a 2 tone B riser from Big Jim and ordered another set of #2s, Love the #2s.
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Havent taken anything with it yet. Had a 25 yard shot at a turkey this morning but it was a near miss. I personally like the "birthmarks" makes it more unique.
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I'm a big fan of the "birthmarks" too. That one is sweet. Picked up an Two Tone A riser from Big Jim a couple of months ago, told him the uglier the better
:bigsmyl:
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The Greenstripe is treating me well this season....
,,,Sam,,,
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Congratulations! Good to see a photo of your kill with a Bear bow again.
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This is the last thread I needed to read....
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Originally posted by BByrd:
This is the last thread I needed to read....
I read it and now have an "A" mag and a "B" mag riser and #2 and #3 limbs..........and they were worth every penny!!!!!!!
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I saw an older LH green stripe B handle for sale a few days ago for $400. Wasn't sure if that was a fair price because I'm just not up of Bear T/Ds, but suuuure was tempted anyway!
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My next bow purchase have a while to save.
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Fully anticipate shooting a Bear T/D on a coveted hog hunt this March.
Feel that Bear captured the most important feature of a bow decades ago... 'The grip'. Grips are individualistic, however the Bear standard grip is personally most accommodating.
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I've sold two LH Green Stripe B's, one still in the package for $400 or $450. I thought the price was very fair.
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Friend, I have noticed a variation in the grips on the Bears I own and those of others I have shot. I got a Super K earlier this year, a 2015 model, that has the best grip I have experienced on a Bear--quite different from my SK from 2014. Both SKs have a different grip feel from my Kodiak TD.
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Could I get one of you with an A and B riser to measure the overall length please? I'm curious about something. Thanks.
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I just picked up one last night. B rise #1 limbs thought it might stack but its smooth as butter to my 31" draw. Fred got it right with this one.
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Still Lovin 'em!
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nice buck gun
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:clapper: :clapper:
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :archer:
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Love those bear TD.
Nice buck!
Randy
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Very nice Gun
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Do "A" handles generally have beefier handles than "B?
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Originally posted by NIGEL01:
Do "A" handles generally have beefier handles than "B?
No they shouldn't
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I'm currently waiting 13 weeks for a new Black Maple with 2 sets of #3 limbs...I may have to trade one of my other bows for a used TD in the meantime!
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I'm looking for a RH "b" riser and #3 limbs until mine gets here. I have some good stuff to trade.
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Nigel - Most of the A handles I've held, including the one I own, seem a bit beefier than most B's. The new B's are not as beefy as the greenstripes. I'm not sure why. They should be similar.
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My green stripe B has the perfect handle for me. Not too big, not too small, Just right!
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Here is a pick from the 2016 ATA show, courtesy of my fellow Bear Staff Shooter Kenny Branham. I thought some of you might enjoy it.
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Cool arrows. Great cock feathers!
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Wow, those are cool!
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are those feathers availible to buy?
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Love those feathers MoOse!!!
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Yes, available at Rose City Archery, I don't think they have the website updated yet for these, so you may have to call them.
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Hi guys,
today I would like to get you appreciate opinions about a green/ Brown stripe B riser I recently bought on a famous auction platform.
The seller, I don`t believe it was one of you guys, announced the bow (it came with original green tip limbs of 65 Pounds) as follows:
"Used in new condition Fred Bear Archery Kodiak Custom T/D Take Down Recurve bow"
and further
"Fred Bear Custom Kodiak T/D takedown recurve bow. 60" 65# Excellent condition, like new. This has the gold emblem in the riser and the green tips on the limbs, comes with a "stringer" This bow is great for travel as it breaks down for easy transport. Really a great bow and desirable in the takedown model. Riser is multi colored laminate. Definitely a piece of art and a functional hunting tool, just needs a string.
The bow is in nice condition, so far so good. But I would not have it decribed "as new" because it has a varnish scratch in the window which is just a visual issue, but a bigger one. The limbs are straight and true. So they are in very good condtion and "as new" comes very Close.
But beside that I noticed immediately after unwrapping the bow from the package a crack in the riser, below the top latch. It popped up quickly in my eyes.
Please give me your opinion. Does that crack (it is one in my opinion, hope the Fotos can show that) makes the bow just a wall hanger??? I agreed on stunning 600 bucks buy t now selling Price as the seller said the bow is as new I have asked for if the bow is really as new, which was confirmed by the seller.
The seller told me after my complained, that he was not Aware that this is a crack and local People who showed interest and came for watching the bow, didn`t tell him that this is/ could be a crack.
Appreciate you thoughts and opinions and advice!!!
Best regards
Kermit
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The following is just my opinion as a Bear TD aficionado.
That's about "as new" as a bow built in the early 1980s is going to get. The finish on it is 30+ years old after all, and even if it was not used the finish would develop small cracks. And that looks to me like a typical crack in the finish, and green stripe TDs were prone to small finish cracks.
Go ahead and shoot it and enjoy it. You got it for one heck of a favorable price. I would expect a green stripe in very fine to newish condition like that one to cost a lot more.
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You didn't mention the serial number but it does look like a early to mid 80s bow. Those risers were resin impregnated maple. Very strong.
If you are concerned you could put some Loctite 420 in there using an insulin syringe. If it is a crack it will wick in. There will be some cleanup but if you mask off closely around it and are careful you can lightly scrape off the residue and polish that spot easily. If it were my bow I'd measure the crack and shoot the bow, keeping en eye to see if the crack gets bigger.
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I been watching this and finally broke down and picked one up a last month. So far I like it though I have only shoot in basement at sort range. Here are a couple pictures.
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I am looking for a B-mag bow for hunting... Hopefully a bit of bow-fishing..
Couldn't bear to put a ding in one of the wooden ones...
What sort of price should I be looking at?
Thanks
Alex
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Pretty bow Last Arrow!
Alex - The short answer is - it depends. You can find them for about $400 and up depending on condition.
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Hi Phil,
Thanks for your answer. I am happy with 400-500 dollars.
Can I expect a decent condition for that price or will I have to repaint?
Cheers
Alex
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At the lower end you probably will want to repaint. Quite a few of the ones I've seen over the years need some paint anyway. But that doesn't effect performance, just looks.
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Hi Phill,
Well it looks like I am sorted... Colour is not great for hunting, but I will repaint...
I am looking forward to having one of these iconic bows...
Its a B-mag.... I think I read that they are cut to centre.... Is this true? I want to get some arrows ready for its arrival...
Cheers
Alex
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Love shooting my herd of them, still waiting to get sick of them, lol. Don't think that is going to happen.
Picked up another Green Stripe with # 2 limbs but have not been able to give her the attention she deserves yet. Will be in the timber with me this fall though.
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o762/chadorde/IMG_5600_zpskup8vgsi.jpg) (http://s1342.photobucket.com/user/chadorde/media/IMG_5600_zpskup8vgsi.jpg.html)
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Really nice arrows moOse.
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Originally posted by Phil Magistro:
You didn't mention the serial number but it does look like a early to mid 80s bow. Those risers were resin impregnated maple. Very strong.
If you are concerned you could put some Loctite 420 in there using an insulin syringe. If it is a crack it will wick in. There will be some cleanup but if you mask off closely around it and are careful you can lightly scrape off the residue and polish that spot easily. If it were my bow I'd measure the crack and shoot the bow, keeping en eye to see if the crack gets bigger.
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Originally posted by Phil Magistro:
You didn't mention the serial number but it does look like a early to mid 80s bow. Those risers were resin impregnated maple. Very strong.
If you are concerned you could put some Loctite 420 in there using an insulin syringe. If it is a crack it will wick in. There will be some cleanup but if you mask off closely around it and are careful you can lightly scrape off the residue and polish that spot easily. If it were my bow I'd measure the crack and shoot the bow, keeping en eye to see if the crack gets bigger.
Hi Phil, contacted Bear Archery and they consider it as a tiny, but not to serious crack. Nothing that would make the riser unshootable. So I will to on and give it a try. Thank you and Smoking Joe for your judgement and advive! Appreciate that very much!
Regards Marco
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Looking back over this thread it looks like I have neglected to post photos of a couple that I acquired recently. Here is a two tone "A" riser that has some birthmark in the black maple.
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...and here is a gray Futurawood "B" with a LOT of birthmark.
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I would say of the four Bear T/D's I have, my early 80's green stripe fits me the best. And, my all bubinga riser, the worst. The "greenie" is heavy, and sits in my hand perfectly.
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I have 2 Bear Takedowns due to be delivered today! A right handed "A" riser with #1 limbs...and a left handed "A" riser.
Im so excited!! :goldtooth: :goldtooth:
These will be my first time owning one of these. I couldnt take it any longer!
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Way to go guys. After looking through this entire thread I really want to try one (or ten) out and see how I like one! I like how you can adjust bow lengths and poundage with different limbs. How low in poundage can you find limbs? If I get one I may have younger family members who can grow with the bow so to speak. And is there anyone in the Erie, PA area who would be willing to let me fling some arrows from one to see if I like it? Thanks!
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R.V.T.B. I love the look of that bottom bow. One of a kind I bet. Some people may not care for that look but I sure do.
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Originally posted by David Mitchell:
R.V.T.B. I love the look of that bottom bow. One of a kind I bet. Some people may not care for that look but I sure do.
I like that one also..... :thumbsup:
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Bunyan: I have a set of old no.3 white tips that are 25#@28. That's as low as I've ever seen them. Not too difficult to find older limbs in the 30#-40# range.
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Thanks Orion! I'm really eager to try a few of the different risers out!
Does anyone shoot 3 under with their T/D? Any issue with the tiller or noise level?
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I shoot three under with no problems.
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I tried 3 under with my TD. I just raised the nock point a little to get rid of any noise. I had already changed string material, added "beaver balls" and tuned arrows. Why I do not now is a long story for another day.
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Thanks guys! I figured it was no problem!
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Looks like I just bought a Gray actionwood red stripe "B" riser......wanted a wood to go with my Mag riser.
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Andy: I am south of Erie just off I79 and have several Bear TDs if you are interested in shooting any. Rod
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Bitten by the "Bear Bug" Ron...?? :rolleyes: :bigsmyl:
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Hey woodchucker....I have a A and B mag riser with 3 sets of limbs, #1,#2 and #3 all at mid 40 poundage. Should have bought one years ago. They are to nice not to have one or two.
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Rod, thanks for the offer! Pm sent!
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I picked up two B mag risers ordered a set of #1 limbs 45lbs for one and have fallen in love with the set up. I'm waiting on some parts I ordered from monte to arrive so I can get the other riser going
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Shooting today @ 25 yards B mag riser with #1 limbs 44lbs at my draw
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I would say your shooting that set up pretty good.....lol :thumbsup:
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Looking good Chris. Just be careful, I told you before that those Bears are very addictive.
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That almost looks like Noble Sinclair camo dip riser there. I got a b mag that I refinished and love.
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That's the truth Randy. I'm falling fast for them :)
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:thumbsup:
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My new to me riser came in the mail today. I put my #1 newer limbs @ 35# on the "B" riser on it and took it out for a spin. I draw 29+", this is smooth right back to anchor and it's remarkable how quick it is. I may take it to a 3/D tomorrow just for fun.
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Hey guys, does anyone use FF type strings on older Bear limb [with padded loops] ??? Just made a string using 452, 5 strands with 3 of B-50 in each bundle.......am I taking a chance on blowing up my limb tips??? Seems to shoot really nice.
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First time owner of a Bear Takedown.
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Best part? I bought it, riser and limbs for.....(...........drums please..)
225$!
So I walk to this pro shop that's on my way home from work, and they have a consignment section. Among the crap, I see this old, beat up Bear. The price tag?250$!! After a small bargain, I drop it to 225 and the next stop is Home Depot for sandblock, Minwax Lacquer for the riser and polyourethane for the limbs. That was last week, and pics got taken 2 days ago.. What a transformation, I wish I had taken before pics.
It is 33#@28", way lighter than what I shoot but I wanted a dedicated rig to work on form and have some backyard fun.
These are my first 3 shots after I put on a Mountain Muffler string from Steve and shot a 430 gn arrow for around13gpp. Distance is 22yards.
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And to answer to Ron's question: Yes , this is a FF string, the only strings I use. When I used to collect Brownings, I used to shoot FF strings and never had an issue.
couple more pics:
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in short order I love the bow, and I am glad I finally tried a Bear after almost 10 years of shooting trad!
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Ron: I've been running 12 strand D-97 padded to 16 in the loops on my older Bear TDs for about a half-dozen years now with no ill effects. I really like the way they shoot and feel with the low stretch strings. Removes the limb vibration, gives them a little more zip, and plenty quiet to boot.
Got yourself a mighty fine looking riser/bow there, Christos.
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El Greco,are you sure that was made by Bear?It doesn't look like any wood I've seen in a Bear TD,no coin either.It looks like a custom made riser.I like it a lot.
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I got no clue. Although in the last 10 yeras I must have bought, sold and traded hundreds of bows, I have never owned a Bear. All I know is that from all the pictures I have seen out there I like mine the most. And I am glad that it came to me in a face of my life that I have settled down with my equipment and this baby is here to stay. I bought a pair of heavier limbs from Ric O Say here, but after shooting them, I decided to stick with the light ones that came with the bow, so those will go to the butchers block, but the rest of the rig is Staying. Never owned such a light poundage bow and I will say it is a blast
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Anyone got a clue what the woods used might be?
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I'd rather have that than most Bears I've seen and In like the Bears.There have been a couple guys make custom risers but I can't remember names.My guess would be East Indian Rosewood and Gabon Ebony.It's nice!
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Pretty cool.....
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A guy at another site told me I might have a rare one! I will check for a serial #
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Well nothing on the riser..
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Might be a lunch box riser.
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el greco,why don't you post some pictures on the trad history,collectors forum?A couple years ago,someone was making one and a few seemed to be familiar with others that had.
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I talked to Big Jim late last year and he put me on his list for a black maple A riser. Told him I'd hold out until he came across something "unique". He shot me a text late last week and this one is currently sitting in the local Post Office waiting to be picked up on Tuesday. Love the "carmel swirl".
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el greco, your bow sure has the 'makings of a 'lunch box' signature bow'. Mike, that is a fine looking handle. You sure know how to find them.
Shick
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El Greco: There is a fella who made several high end copies of Bear TD risers. I can't remember his name, but I know Zepnut on this site, owns one or two of them and does know the builder. Your riser may be one of his.
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My goodness that's GORGEOUS!!
I'd love to have one just like it in 45 pounds.
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Exeptional riser!! Truly one of a kind!
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Originally posted by Yellow Dog:
I talked to Big Jim late last year and he put me on his list for a black maple A riser. Told him I'd hold out until he came across something "unique". He shot me a text late last week and this one is currently sitting in the local Post Office waiting to be picked up on Tuesday. Love the "carmel swirl".
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/Yellowdog3822/5DEF5624-FFAF-4920-A493-2E2E65E8DC21_zps5emaw1lf.jpg) (http://s39.photobucket.com/user/Yellowdog3822/media/5DEF5624-FFAF-4920-A493-2E2E65E8DC21_zps5emaw1lf.jpg.html)
Riser looks nice. Can you post pics of other side?
I've been looking to purchase used A riser like that.
Thanks
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That riser is awesome!!!
Had to make a new armguard for myself for this season.
Found some glow in the dark compasses that are liquid filled and the green reminds me of the minty green strips.
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Superb leather work Chad :thumbsup:
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Phillip, the flip side. Not as figured as the the shelf side but still special.
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Thanks for pic yellow dog.
It's really nice. Enjoy and good luck.
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That armguard is awesome , I know for a fact that wearing one of those in the mountains while elk hunting will bring good luck..
,,,Sam,,,
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Originally posted by Yellow Dog:
Phillip, the flip side. Not as figured as the the shelf side but still special.
(http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e173/Yellowdog3822/image_zpsgwgrbrwx.jpeg)
I've been searching for a used one for some time.
Hoping one comes available...
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Food for thought.....
I've wanted a Bear T/D since I was a kid. Back in the early 1980's I worked in an Archery/Bait&Tackle shop. We ordered our bows through Bowhunter's Warehouse. A Bear Kodiak T/D cost $275... (A lot of money for a young kid, I'd bought cars & trucks for that price) It cost about the same as the top of the line compound!
Last year, I ordered a new one from Big Jim!!! The $800 was money well spent... A 40 year dream, that finally came true!!!
If you want one, spend the money...
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I do love the old Bear TDs , they always treat me well....
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This year in Colorado.....
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Originally posted by woodchucker:
Food for thought.....
I've wanted a Bear T/D since I was a kid. Back in the early 1980's I worked in an Archery/Bait&Tackle shop. We ordered our bows through Bowhunter's Warehouse. A Bear Kodiak T/D cost $275... (A lot of money for a young kid, I'd bought cars & trucks for that price) It cost about the same as the top of the line compound!
Last year, I ordered a new one from Big Jim!!! The $800 was money well spent... A 40 year dream, that finally came true!!!
If you want one, spend the money...
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Please Show as a Photo of your 40 year old dream that became true
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Working on it, lmao! This picture posting things kinda got me stumped.....
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Congratulations Sam!
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Nice Chad!
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Gorgeous
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Well done....... :thumbsup:
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Congrats!
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Just picked up a A riser, started with an A mag, picked up a B mag, then a B wood riser and now a wood A. who would have thought that I would have 4 of them now. They are habit forming.
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Congratulations! This is just a good addiction :-)
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Congrats on the new A riser.
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I have owned several bows. I purchased a Bear TD and understood what everyone was trying to copy. I love this bow.
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Would love to see some pics again
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I've always liked the birthmarks in future-wood. I found this B riser recently, still looking for something unique in an A riser.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v643/myshootinstinks/59d1bbb3-f1db-49b6-a24f-90a969a1b9d6_zpsoz1bh8q9.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/myshootinstinks/media/59d1bbb3-f1db-49b6-a24f-90a969a1b9d6_zpsoz1bh8q9.jpg.html)
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Wow, that is unique ......I like it!!
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95% birthmarks! Very unique!!!
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No Custom Kodiak Take Downs for Christmas?
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That birthmark red-stripe riser is amazing.
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I just got an A mag riser and think it might stay awhile. Gotta find someone to swap me a set of #3 for the #2 limbs that came on it, just to short for my draw length.
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A silver B riser.
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Mike, now that riser is a little different. Good for you.
Shick
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This is really looking good! Is the grip special made? Looks like a pistol grip.
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I recently aquired this Magnesium B riser. Is wonderful heavy in my hands. Seems to have the original paint.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f333/marcouskoelle/B%20Riser%20Magnesium%20green/IMG_0145_zpskul5l2m3.jpg) (http://s50.photobucket.com/user/marcouskoelle/media/B%20Riser%20Magnesium%20green/IMG_0145_zpskul5l2m3.jpg.html)
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Anyone get a picture of the new special edition takedown?
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DANG....this ones a shooter!!!! My first B riser and I put on #3's for a 64" bow. Not sure if its the length (shot 60"ers mostly) or the physical heft of the bow but this one is a tack driver :thumbsup:
(http://i.imgur.com/QYWHEyg.jpg)
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Thought I would bring back.
I've recently acquired a very nice B mag with the reinforced upper riser gusset. Slowly changing my tune from a die hard 60" A to a 60" B. hmmm.....
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This thread always comes back, like a boomerang! LOL
Lots of Bear T/D fans here!!!
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Looks like a great deal of us are going to need to post new pictures. Sad, this was one of my favorite threads. :(
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Mine too this sucks
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I wish we could redo this thread with all the pics in it.
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Maybe after the upgrade, they'll come back? (Idk?)
Or, they say posting pictures will be easier, maybe we'll get a whole bunch more?!!
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I guess I'll start by posting my modest collection. Looking to get another "B" handle in the near future.
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Nice assortment....... :thumbsup:
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I figured this group would be the place to ask, but I have always wanted a bear kodiak takedown. Has anyone found a source that allows payments? I can swing a couple hundred a month, but probably not $1,000 all at once. I'm trying to get everything done before I head to Afghanistan as it may be a great time for practice. Can anyone point me in a good direction to start?
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If you go through Big Jim, you could get the riser, then get the limbs later? Not exactly payments... (more like 1/2 + 1/2)
But, at least you wouldn't have to lay out the full nut!
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Ok, so maybe I'll go a different route. But I have a question on risers, etc. I'd like a 56" bow, 50#. I have smaller hands. Which direction do I go for which riser and which like limbs? Im not understanding the combos all that well
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I guess #1 limbs on an A riser? That sound right?
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Yep.
"A" riser with #1 limbs would give you a 56" bow.
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Sent you a private message Cavscout 9753.
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Disregard, I figured it out. Just went all in. A riser with #3 limbs.
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It only hurts once...!! LMAO!!! Then years of enjoyment!!!!!
I bought mine a couple years ago, after wanting one for over 40 years... It still kills me that I ALMOST bought one in the early 80's, but $250 was ALOT of money!!! Lol
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No, what really hurts I did not buy a 1970 TD when I first saw them. A mere $150.
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LOL!!!! Like I said, it only hurts once! My T/D will be the last "new" bow, I'll ever buy!!! I waited 40 years to get it, I need at least another 20 years to get it broken in!!!
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Cavscourt: An A riser with No.3 limbs makes a 60-inch bow, not the 56-inch bow you indicated a preference for initially. I assume someone may have PMed you and helped you make the selection.
Should let draw length determine your bow length. With my 28-inch draw, I shoot a 56-inch TD for turkey hunting, but I don't shoot that bow a lot. A 60-incher feels a lot better to me at that draw length.
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Orion: yeah I went with a 60" rather than the shorter. 60" feels a lot better to shoot to me.
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Orion: yeah I went with a 60" rather than the shorter. 60" feels a lot better to shoot to me.
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Oh man, what a bow! I thought I'd be buried with my Hill ASL, but this is a catagory all unto itself. Like I said before, I got the A riser with the #3 limbs putting it at a 60" 52# bow. Since I was already spending more money than my wife would like, I added insult to injury and got a Great Northern side mount quiver with the brown leather hood. A perfect combo in my opinion. I was running number through the calculator and came up very surprised that my 27" BOP 50-55 douglas fir arrows were within 1 digit spread. I thought it to good to be true, but wow, talk about luck!! They fly so nice carrying 160 grains up front that in homage to my Hill love I'll still use my Hill broadheads! Lol. There's been a slight adjustment with shooting high 3"-4", but coming off 2 years of ASL's it was expected and I feel that by the end of the long weekend my system will adjust fine and they'll come down consistently. As for the bow itself, there's not much to be said that this crowd doesn't already know. The grip probably sells me the most. I usually dislike recurves (and I've owned a few) because of the larger palm swell. However, if theres a better recurve grip for a solid and consistant feel, I'm sure Id never find it. Its narrow enough and still leaves room for no torque. All in all, very happy. I never imagined id drop so much on a bow, but theres no buyers remorse from me! In total love!
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Like I said, it only hurts once!!! LOL
(unless you start buying more)
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Originally posted by woodchucker:
Like I said, it only hurts once!!! LOL
(unless you start buying more)
My problem is that I bought an extra set of limbs just so that I could change the setup a bit. Then I started thinking that it's a shame to have those limbs just laying around and maybe I could get a different type of riser to hold them.
Before I knew it they're breeding. :knothead:
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Yup, They'll do that!!!!! LMAO!!! :eek:
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Cavscout9753, post a picture of your new bow. This thread needs to get back to the heavily laden pic thread it once was.
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After 76 pages I can no longer resist the urge to finally get the bow I wanted so bad as a kid. And that was a loooooooooooooooog time ago.
So...which way should I go for a 60" bow? A riser with #3 limbs or B riser with #1's. I think I got the combo's right. Which would be smoother to draw?
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Here ya fellas! Sooooo happy!!! (http://i.imgur.com/pTbWISs.jpg)
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Papa Bear shot a B handle, with #1 limbs!!! Just sayin'...
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Very Classy! Lucas
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Thanks Steve. You always wonder how much of the talk is just nostalgia or hype or whatever. But it really does possess every great quality in a bow. As an added bonus the compass even works correctly hahah. I had low expectations for it, lol.
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One of the smartest things Bear Archery ever did was to reintroduce the Bear TD.
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I have owned and/or shot most every custom take down available over the last 35 years. For some reason I put off buying a Bear T/D as it seemed to be a lot of money for a "factory" bow. I finally bit the bullet in 2011 when they reintroduced them and bought a "B" riser with 50 pound #1 limbs.
Fast forward to 2017 and I have nine of them in various configurations hanging on the wall. They can be addictive.
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Does anyone of you guys already realized that the Custom Kodiak Take down has been disappeared from Bear Archerys homepage? I contacted them few days ago, but didn' t get any response until today. Hope this is just a mistake and it will still be a part of the product line!
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By accident I found an announcement of 3 Rivers Archery that Bear is doing a limited edition of the custom Kodiak take down. I regularely receive Bears and 3 Rivers newsletter but never saw a hint on that.
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You are still on time to order one!
I am waiting for #54
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Kermit, I also noticed that the T/D isn't on the Bear website any longer. I hope they are just rebuilding the page or something and that it hasn't been discontinued.
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I bought my Victor Viking takedown new in 1971. The riser needed refinished after all these years of shooting and hunting, so John at the bow hospital did the work about 6 months ago. It looks fantastic..
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Question, does anyone make after market T/D riser copies? I would love to have an “A” riser made with exotic woods.
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But then, it wouldn't be a Bear...??
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Originally posted by R.V.T.B.:
Kermit, I also noticed that the T/D isn't on the Bear website any longer. I hope they are just rebuilding the page or something and that it hasn't been discontinued.
Let's wait a while and observe how it develops. The Bear homepage currently is not a real improvement. Was already much better in the past. Hope like you that it is still under construction!!
Hi R.V.T.B
Bear has answered my email. They confirmed having trouble with their site and hope to get it fixed by the end of the week.
Regrads
Marco
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Originally posted by cacciatore:
You are still on time to order one!
I am waiting for #54
Cacciatore, I really consider this? Maybe I give 3 Rivers a call tomorrow. What about the deposit? Is the full amount also the deposit?
Do you know if this limited edition model only is offered by 3 Rivers?
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Originally posted by Kermit:
Originally posted by cacciatore:
You are still on time to order one!
I am waiting for #54
Cacciatore, I really consider this! Maybe I give 3 Rivers a call tomorrow. What about the deposit? Is the full amount also the deposit?
Do you know if this limited edition model only is offered by 3 Rivers? [/b]
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No, 3Rivers is not the only one. Most of the large dealers are getting some. Only 250 are going to be made. It looks like 3Rivers still have about 17 left. I believe that 3Rivers will take credit card info, but not charge it until delivery. I also heard that the first one will ship next week.
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I ordered mine from Big Jim, he never asked me a deposit but he confirmed my order. He is a great guy!!!
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I ordered mine today. I am # 160. Have you guys heard anything on when they will start shipping?
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As posted October 27 by a Bear Dealer (Stickbow Supplies) on the The Traditional Bear Archery Group Facebook page.
"Bear Special Edition update Bear is an email that was sent to me
We will start depositing some next week. The Baltimore one had a finish issue and we had to take it back down to wood and start over. We should be able to ship that one next week also. We have about 65 or 70 on the floor and are building more as we speak.
Outside of this, we lost our #1 painter, our buff and polish person and one of our bow machine guys in the last 4 weeks which has hurt us."
Take it for what it's worth. I'm hyped also. #156
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Does anyone know why nearly all pictures are disappeared "
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PhotoBucket is holding them hostage. :(
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????
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Originally posted by Blackstick:
PhotoBucket is holding them hostage. :(
Hi,
Use this extension ( Photobucket embed fix (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/photobucket-embed-fix/naolkcpnnlofnnghnmfegnfnflicjjgj) )
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Thanks, will try it!
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????
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Getting back in Bear takedown business , great bows !
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I just got my first one the other day & I am falling in love with it quickly. I got a set of "Bigfoot" bows' longbow limbs for it also & am having a couple of issues with those limbs. I posted a seperate thread addressing these issues. If anybody from this thread could help with them, I'd greatly appreciate it. Otherwise, it looks like this thread now has another member following from here on out.... :goldtooth:
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Most aftermarket limbs are very good, but since Bear reintroduced the TD the aftermarket limb makers have given up on making them. I had several pairs of Rose Oak limbs and they were excellent.
I don't know of anyone who has used longbow limbs for the Bear TD, and I will be curious to learn what you end up doing to tame them and get them to shoot well. I do know that Bear made some longbow limbs for the TD, and they were very unsuccessful. If I were you, I would not mess with the locator hole if the latches close. The fact that the fit is tight is not a bad thing.
I have a set of Border Archery Bear TD limbs and they are crazy fast -- the fastest aftermarket limbs I have seen. They have a post-shot hum that comes from the limb tips, but that noise is not objectionable. I may use this combo to hunt hogs in the spring.
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Just bought a set of limbs to add to my collection, white tips #3 from the 90's at 50 pounds. Might be a tad heavy for me but you never know when you might go on an Elk hunt.
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Hi all, I'm wondering
if anyone of you guys got his limited edition
bow already?
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Well I really enjoyed caring mine around in WY for a week chasing Mule Deer. Bow shoots great and is perfect fit and finish.
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Nice Chad. What a great looking rig.
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Good to see a L.E. TD in the woods Chad! My son has officially stolen mine to hunt with, so I'm excited to see it in action come October.
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Don’t look now, but there’s a pretty sweet deal on a TD in the classifieds. I would be all over it but my accountant strongly encourages me to be a 1-bow kind of guy, and I don’t have the energy to argue with her this close to bow season.
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Looks great Chad!
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Just got my first ever Bear takedown and boy is it a shooter! 61@30 and super fast with a heavy arrow, the riser is signed by Fred Bear and Roger Rothhaar!!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181013/e1acb6e2e3901eeb2807650d71d7f174.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181013/de202e7267560341f02eac747e169af0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181013/450579ffb6a4ddb1ef2183f424df241c.jpg)
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2017 B riserand #2 1970 limbs with a doe.
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Got it done with my new to me Green stripe after only owning it 1 day! 20 yard shot and she never knew I was there even though she looked right through me! 60" 61@30 shooting a 640gr arrow!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181015/616795e1efee45cfc9423e5c78713670.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181015/a55eacfadc8ae717ebbccc0c9806f9f4.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181015/0065f7cc2bb0514ab7ed68e16e19b60b.jpg)
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Logan, good deal on the bow. Good hunt, and nice camo.
Shick
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Closing in on 2019 and I’m still waiting on Bear to make my 2017 L.E. :-(
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Mine arrived on Wednesday this week. #109 and 50#. I will get pictures up later. Let me say I was a bit worried I would be satisfied due to the cost. Buy that problem has gone away. The bow is awesome! No way to check speed but it moves an arrow for sure!
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Well, I finally gave the newer, red-tip, fast-flight, Bear TD limbs a try. I am very impressed with the speed and smoothness. I guess the very narrow limb tips have something to do with the speed.
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Those new limbs are “snappy”. Like the way they move an arrow.
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Fortunate to own several TDs from Type 1 to the new LE. Presently hunting with the 40# LE and the performance is outstanding. Cosmetically this bow (#82) is second to none!
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I've probably posted this before, maybe even earlier in this thread, but don't want to look through 45 pages to find it.
Anyway, there's been quite a bit of talk over the past few years about the newer red/black tip limbs being quite fast, with the implication or outright assertion that they're faster than the older Bear TD limbs.
Sure, the new limbs when shot with a low stretch string are faster than the older limbs when shot with B-50, but put that same low stretch string on the older limbs, and they shoot as fast as the newer limbs. At least that's been my experience.
I compared three sets of #1 limbs, marked 50#@28 inches on a B riser. Two sets were older, '80s era red tips, the third was the more recent red/black tips, made the past few years. I shot all sets on the same Green stripe riser at the same brace height with the same 12 strand D-97 string padded to 16 in the loops and the same three Easton Axis arrows.
The two older sets of red tips were 1 fps and 2 fps faster than the newer red/black tips. That's only one test. I'd like to see others replicate it.
The newer limbs are thinner, side to side, but their curvature is identical to the older limbs, so there really hasn't been a design change. Regardless, when fitted with the same string, I'm convinced the older and newer limbs shoot about the same, and both shoot plenty fast for me. I realize that not everyone wants to put a low-stretch string on older limbs, but I've been doing it for about 8 years now with no problems. On top of that, the Bear TD just seems to be a very stable, forgiving bow.
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That is interesting, and I will admit that I have never tried a fast flight string on the older Bear TD limbs. I was always respectful of the taboo regarding fast flight on non-fast-flight limbs. So the real difference is the string...
That being said, I am impressed by the newer limbs with modern bowstrings. And, pound for pound the newer Bear TD limbs seem to hold their own pretty well with the aftermarket limbs (Rose Oak, etc.) that I have owned and used.
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Orion, I wouldn't doubt your testing. I however would feel guilty as heck if I blew up a set of Graylings because I shot FF from them :bigsmyl:.
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#53 and #54
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I have a weatherest on mine and shooting full length fmj autumn orange 320’s. 200 grain points plus 50 grain brass inserts. Shows a bit nock left and I wonder what’s up? I draw 30” so it should be about 55 lb. Maybe weak but I am surprised a bit. I have to try some lighter points tomorrow. Any thoughts?
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Felix,
If you are as happy with your 2 le’s as I am with my one, you may be about to bust! Some guys say not worth it but I a really pleased.
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I think that most owners are really happy with these bows.
I am one of them, I can’t ask more.
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Hey fellas,
Just purchased a new to me A riser and a brand new set of #1 57# red tip limbs. Bow shoots awesome. First Trad bow I’ve actually busted nocks with. It came with a, what I am assuming is a Flemish fast flight string. The only issue I’m having is the bow is very loud. It came with rubber cat whiskers and I added some bow hush to no avail. After some research I built a Flemish b50 string for it and it is much quieter with no add ons. Has anyone else experienced this? Will I lose a ton of performance with the b50? If I do shoot the b50 I’ll make an endless bc my Flemish is not pretty by any means.
Also has anyone put a leather grip on theirs? I have just always like the feel of leather grips plus they don’t get as cold when hunting.
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Courtesy of Big Jim.
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I had a Supreme B that was very noisy. I spent about 5 minutes with brace height and made it quiet. The most dramatic BH sound affect I e encountered.
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I had a Supreme B that was very noisy. I spent about 5 minutes with brace height and made it quiet. The most dramatic BH sound affect I e encountered.
I did play with the brace some. Started at 8.25 which was maximum recommended. Varied it from 7.75 to 8.5 with no change in sound.
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IME I found D-97 FF material noisy on my Bear B riser and Bear limbs. That was many moons ago now. These days I use BCY X strings made by Chad (LBR). I also dumped the Flemish twist for endless loop strings. I use one set of cat whiskers only.
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Haven’t posted on here in over six years....finally got my limited edition TD this week. Love this bow.
Tatersalad
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Very nice 234!
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Tater,
How does it shoot? Sure is pretty and has exceptional grain in the riser.
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Only put about a dozen arrows through her this weekend and she handled great. Need to do some tuning to get her where I want her. Still trying to decide if I’m going to hunt with her....or let her be a closet queen. :biglaugh:
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IME I found D-97 FF material noisy on my Bear B riser and Bear limbs. That was many moons ago now. These days I use BCY X strings made by Chad (LBR). I also dumped the Flemish twist for endless loop strings. I use one set of cat whiskers only.
Has everyone had the same experience as gunner? Bcy-x they way to go? I mad a Flemish d97 and it was just as loud as what came on it. Even with mountain muffler yarn from the yoke to 4.5” down it is still loud.
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I had issues with noise with my 2017 takedown. Bcy x string wrapped with wool on the ends and Velcro on the string grooves made a world of difference. :archer:
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B-1805 with Rose Oak limbs, BH 8 ¼ “, B-50 string with BW spider silencers placed at the 1/3 and 1/4 distance from contact with limb. It is very quiet. [ You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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Finally made a B50 I was happy with. Has a full set of mountain mufflers on it and man what a difference. Even quiet to the shooter now.
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I thought really hard about one of the new LEs. I had my Mountain Monarch on order so I held off. I kinda had this thought that if I ever really did want something like it but not "official" I could just ask Jim to build me one.
Saw this on Sunday and it made me laugh pretty hard. I love capitalism.
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Just a heads up guys and gals,
Over on Stickbow we have a report that LE takedown #235 has come up stolen while in UPS transit. Bow and case removed from box and retaped prior to delivery.
Keep an eye out if you see #235 come up for sale!
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Man that sucks.........
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Just a heads up guys and gals,
Over on Stickbow we have a report that LE takedown #235 has come up stolen while in UPS transit. Bow and case removed from box and retaped prior to delivery.
Keep an eye out if you see #235 come up
Dang, what crap. Well if he hopes to get good money for it, its bound to pop up. So long as he doesn’t hit a pawn shop for a quick $100
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It looks like #235 is for sale already. I saw it listed for sale on facebook.
Anybody know how to report it to whoever deals with such crimes?
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The dealer (Noble Sinclair) recovered his bow, but I don't know the details.
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Smokin and Yooper. It took me a while to convince myself to go with a low stretch string on older limbs. But the older limbs just look very sturdy to me. Their limb tip overlays are at least as thick as those on the newer limbs. Older limbs also carry their width further toward the tips. They're just "beefier."
I've never had any trouble, and the low stretch string improves performance and makes the bow even gentler on release. I think that with a properly padded loop, low-stretch strings are actually easier on the bow because they greatly reduce all of the limb flexing/vibration at the conclusion of the shot. Regardless, I wouldn't feel too bad if I blew up a set of older limbs, though I don't think it's any more likely to happen with a low stretch string than with dacron. They're not really rare. In fact, there are a lot of them around, and, given all the new limbs that Bear is churning out, folks seem less interested in the older limbs so they're also available at very good prices.
By way of illustration, I just picked up a Green Stripe riser with a set of 50# limbs so I again have three sets of 50# limbs. One back-up set is enough so I've been trying to sell or trade the third set. Virtually no interest. My interpretation is that there are a lot of older Bear limbs available, and the market for them is rather weak.
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Always wanted one of the green stripes for some reason, but always late to the party or no money LOL who’s selling a Bear takedown haha
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Took me a lot longer than I thought it would, but after about 50 years I finally bought a Bear Takedown. Wow is all I can say. I really didn't expect it to shoot on par with the customs I have hanging on the rack. But it as good or better than many of the top end bows I've spent dough on over the years. It may be pricey for a "factory bow" But I don't believe anyone who snagged one would ever be disappointed. I am indeed very happy with my purchase. BTW, got the B riser with #1 limbs for a 60" bow. I suppose some may think that is less than an optimal combo - long riser and short limbs - but at my 29 1/2 draw there is absolutely no stack that I can detect and it really zips them out there.
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The bear takedown is a bow I’m starting to get interested in....versatility, easy packing and seems like a good shooter.....
A question for all the take down shooters....I’m not sure what the qualities and pros and cons of each riser are....I have a 28.5” draw, I really like a 60” bow length.....what would be the differences in the short riser/long limbs and the long riser/short limbs? If you planned on having the 60” length and using it as a hunting bow....is there a certain combo that hits the sweet spot better than another?
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I have A and B risers and can make a 60-inch bow out of either. I tend to prefer the B riser with the short limbs over the A riser and the longer limbs. The longer limbs on an A riser should be a bit smoother, but I really don't detect a difference. The additional mass of the B makes for a steadier hold, IMO. A B riser with short limbs was Fred's favorite combination. I do like the A riser and short limbs for turkey hunting out of a blind.
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FWIW, I have a 30.5" draw and my Bear TD is a B riser and #1 limbs--no problem. Smooth as butter.
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Krex1010, buy one, you won't regret it.
I've had one since 1972.
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Thanks for the info guys....
Roy, it’s on my short list for my next bow. Just want to make sure I get the riser choice right. I figure the take down would be a nice addition to my Super K that I love so much.
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I loved the B riser with #1 limbs myself! Should’ve never sold that one. I need to try and find a takedown from 1981. Think that’s the green stripe if I looked it right. Be cool to have one from my birth year!
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The A riser has a good bit shorter sight window if that matters to you.
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I too was late to the game. I picked up a B Mag riser and a set of number 2 limbs, 44# @ 28. I have been amazed at how well it shoots and how forgiving it is with arrow spine. Now I need a set of number 2 limbs around 48-50#.
D.P.
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Bear doesn't make the #2 limbs anymore, and I don't know of any after market boyers that are making them either. They do pop up on the auction site from time to time.
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Hi Dave, can your old shoulders still pull55#?
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Felix,
Possibly. It is improving all the time and the Bear TDs are so smooth I probably can.
Let me know what you are thinking.
thanks,
D.P.
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I sent you a PM
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I'm reviving this thread since I just got my new Bubinga/Phenolic A-riser...now I have to wait on the #3 Grayling limbs I picked up from RMS Gear!
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I'm reviving this thread since I just got my new Bubinga/Phenolic A-riser...now I have to wait on the #3 Grayling limbs I picked up from RMS Gear!
Pictures!!
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Picked it up from another member on another classified site, its practically brand new. I should have my limbs sometime next week from RMS along with my B50 string. It'll be a 60", A-riser w/#3 limbs, 43@28.
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Looks great Shamus
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Very nice looking Shamus. Love the A's with #3 limbs.
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I've had it put together for about a week now...I'm in trouble. I'm officially a Bear TD convert! A-riser with #3 limbs, #37@28".
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That looks GREAT.
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Yup, still
B mag riser
47#
13 yd shot
20 yd recovery
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Oops
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Congratulations Gun!
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I had overlooked posting photos of my new 50th anniversary take down in this thread. I received it a couple of weeks ago and it is a real beauty.
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Wow Gun!! Congrats!
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Nice moose Gun. Congrats.
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Any of you guys hear anything about a new Bear metal riser coming?
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According to the podcast it's coming. I think the official release is the 28th or something.
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:thumbsup: Thanks
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oops...I didn't see the other thread Ron started on it :dunno:
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I own seven Bear Takedowns. I love them. Here is a picture of my favorite one. It's a factory camo 1984 Bear Kodiak Takedown, 60#@28", B-Riser and #1 Limbs. :archer2:
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Congrats, Gun!
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Definitely my go to bow now. Always loved Fred Bear and Bear archery. I have an A and B red stripe and a magnesium B riser. For some reason I am really drawn to the Brown stripe B risers, so one day that will probably join the collection too.
Mark
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Hey guys,
I have a pair of #1 red tips @ 50# that I am thinking about selling.
Is $275 asking too much?
Thanks.
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NO!!!!! I've just dropped my weight to 40# or I'd buy them from you
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Well I did it. I went and bought a Bear td. Its a B red stripe riser with 45lb #1 limbs. I've been wanting one for years. I'm not getting any younger so I took the plunge. Bought riser and limbs separately from 2 different fellas. Very satisfied. :thumbsup:
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Love em. Especially the C risers.. copied from my *********** posting in past:
For guys out there that would "fit" a certain profile and benefit from the viewpoint below. I wish to help our community of archers. If you don't fit the profile below, then a C riser should NOT be considered.
The profile is a small "target" market.. but hey, fun
Profile: An archer who - is a barebow target shooter (modest size market) or guy who likes a big hunting bow (smaller market) - has a 31" to 32" draw length, so a long riser (25") is really reasonable - prefers a takedown - prefers to invest in assets that hold their value rather than depreciate rapidly - Now make one darn/unfortunate aesthetic choice: Require a wood riser because you like the looks of wood. No RATIONALE reason here whatsoever, you just want a wood riser. Crazy the things we like, but there it is.
This singular choice pushes an archer into a weird and expensive corner. There are only a handful of 25" or longer wood riser manufacturers, they almost never come up used... And for NEW all are pretty pricey (min $550 TYD new, riser alone) and mainly ILF. If you don't use ILF, it usually gets much more expensive and you have more and more trouble finding cheaper used limbs as you are limited to ONE vendor and typically a small pool of used equipment. New long risers/custom limbs are ~$1500-$1700 for a set/bow. And each new set of custom limbs is $500-$700.
Used Bear limbs are $150-$250 typically. You could viably put together a rig for $1000 with two sets of limbs if you are in the ~30-40# range.
Suddenly an older C-riser at $600-700 is not so crazy, right? But wait, there is more:
-Once you own your old bow, it is unlikely to lose significant value. It is not a "wasting asset" like a new riser/limbs which lose ~50% of value rapidly. You might even make money in future should you decide to resell. -You can shoot competitively. There are few barebow shooters who would ever be able to tell the difference between this rig and any other for scores. I am certainly not in that crowd. -It is simpler than ILF to set up and use, less to fiddle with -There are lots of older Bear shooters out there, so when you show up to the range folks are interested, get engaged, you meet people. This is a FUN riser. Even kids seem interested in hearing the history. To them you are shooting an antique without wheels, then you tell them it is from ~1970 and they go "really?" I really appreciate this aspect myself. I give a ton of free introductory lessons at our range, try hard to get kids interested, this helps. -It is aesthetically pleasing to look upon. Simply "pretty"
If you are not buying for extreme performance alone, and you fit the profile, you might consider a C-riser. I shoot them every week and have a ton of fun.
"What a value!"
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Back in 1984, when I got out of the Marines, I worked in a Bow/Bait Shop ("Bow, Bait and Tackle" )
Nice ring to it!! :thumbsup:
We ordered our bows through "Bowhunter's Warehouse" in Pa.
At the height of the compound craze, they carried 4 recurves. Bear Grizzly, Kodiak Mag, Kodiak Special...
Bear Custom Kodiak Takedown
I have always wanted one, but at the time, the price tag was $269.00
You could buy ANY top of the line compound that they carried, for less money!!!
When guys would come in looking to "switch" to a compound, I'd offer to take their recurve as a trade.
I had lots of recurves that I'd picked up for 20-30 dollars or so. I really didn't NEED another bow...
But, I wanted one!!! :pray:
Fast forward to 2015...
We had just settled our Union contract, and received a nice Retro wage check.
I decided right then, after years of waiting... I was going to finally have one!!!
So, I called Big Jim, and ordered a Red stripe Bubinga A-handle, and 50# Number 1 limbs (56" bow)
This past Spring, I ordered a set of 40# 50th Anniversary Number 1 limbs. About a month ago, I got on Big Jim's "list" for one of the new Green A- Mag handles, that are soon coming out.
Hmmmm... YUP!!! I think it's an addiction!!! :help:
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Bought my Victor viking C riser in 1971 and still have it.
Best shooting bow I've ever had.
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I have been shooting this bow every day since I received it about a week ago. I shoot it as good as any bow I have ever owned. Its just a really nice fit for me. The mass weight of the riser makes it really stable, the shelf cut close to the hand, the grip they all just work for me. Grips are a personal thing I know but it fits me just right. I shoot it like I've been shooting it for years. Makes me wish I had picked one up years ago. Now I know what all the hype was about.
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HELP! OK. I’m in. I’ve been thinking of a Bear T/D for a couple years. I’m drawing mid -50’s @ 31”. I’m told I need a “B” riser and #3 limbs. Where to I get them? I know the 50th anniversary seems to be BO’ed everywhere. Is it worth the wait and the $$? Another bonus to me buying one is my son said he would be interested as well. I might need 2?? If there’s anything else I need to know feel free to let me know and Thank you in advance Guys.
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A B-handle and #3 limbs, will give you a 64" bow.
Many with a 31" draw, shoot shorter bows. The issue is "finger pinch" and how concerned you are with it?
Either an A-handle and #3 limbs, or a B-handle and #1 limbs, will give you a 60" bow which many with long draws are comfortable shooting. Papa Bear was a TALL man, and his favorite was a B-handle with #1 limbs.
As for getting one?? Call Big Jim, or 3Rivers... Place your order and wait? (Trust me, it's worth it!!) :archer:
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So are you suggesting I order the 50th? Or are there others that are new? I heard the grip on the 50th is bigger than the norm. Thanks for the intel.
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You can still order a plain Bubinga, or a Black Maple riser (I believe) Big Jim is putting together a list for the new metal A-handles that may be coming in Dec. A call to either him, or 3Rivers would be well worth it!! Either will be able to answer any questions you may have.
That being said, If you decide to spring for a 50th Anniversary.... It will NEVER loose it's value!!! :thumbsup:
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I’ve talked to 3 Rivers, left Big Jim a message. If I want to be mid-50’s at 31” what weight limbs do I order ?
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That depends on the Riser/Limb combo? 3Rivers has a chart where you order the limbs.
An A-handle with #1 limbs such as mine, usually runs +2 pounds at 28". ie 40# limbs = 42#
Rule of thumb, add/subtract 2# per inch over/under 28"
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Hmmm, looks like an A-handle with #3, 45# limbs should put you about 53# at 31"
B-handle with #1, 50# limbs should put you about 56# at 31"
Either combo will give you a 60" bow :thumbsup:
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Thank you. I need to see if 60” is long enough. I own a 64” Longbow. It’s as short as I have been able to shoot
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A B-handle and #3, 50# limbs will give you a 64" bow drawing about 56# at 31"
If you're shooting a 64" longbow now, you shouldn't have any issues with the actual length of the bow handling/hunting wise. It's really like ordering a "custom" bow from a bowyer. Place your order and wait!! LOL :pray:
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Chain, I think your first thought was the best. B handle and #3 limbs. 64" bow. I have a 30.5" draw and that combo is the most comfortable for me. If you're going to go with a 60" bow, I would suggest an A handle with #3 limbs. Either way, you can always buy more.
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Thanks for all the help guys.
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Well I did it. B riser and #3 limbs are on the way. I shot that combo Sunday and was very impressed with how smooth it was all the way to 31”. It felt like I was holding a piece of history.
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CONGRATULATIONS, Jim!!!!! :archer:
Did you get the 50th Anniversary??
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Yes.
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AWESOME!!!! As I said before, you will NEVER loose money on that bow!!! :archer:
What weight limbs?
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I got #50 about #56 at my draw.
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Good choice. You'll love it !
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That's AWESOME!!! :thumbsup:
We all forgot to ask you RH, or LH?? I've seen quite a few LH risers in stock! Rightys gotta wait, LOL :coffee:
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RH. When I shot it it felt like I was holding a piece of history. It felt good
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Well, as I said before Jim... It'll be worth the wait!!! :archer:
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I may take my Bear red stripe out next time I go, maybe it will change my luck !!
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That's a great idea, Ron!!! :thumbsup:
Good Luck!!!! :archer:
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I love my Bear Kodiak Takedowns.
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That’s impressive. So many bows , so little time.
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The OP said Bear Takedowns so I'll add my Bear Hunter TD's to the thread. These are the economical takedowns Bear Archery made at the Gainesville Florida plant from 1988 to 2001 with the bolt on limbs. They are excellent shooting bows. The one on the left I had camo dipped, the one on the right I had just the limbs camo dipped, and I put antler limb bolts on both of them.
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Those Bear Hunters are great bows, Frank!!! :thumbsup:
(and harder to come by!!! lol)
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Didn't hunt today so I finally had time to put my new to me mag takedown together and do a bit of shooting. Took about 5 minutes to get it shooting the same arrows as I shoot from my Widow PTF. I'm pretty impressed with this little bow! It will serve as a back op to the PTF for the rest of this season, but I think it will be my primary bow for spring turkey and at least some of the 3D shoots. Great little bow!
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I have been a takedown fan for years, especially the old magnesium models. I used to buy them re-furbish the bad ones, keep for awhile and then sell them. At one point I had about 30 sets of the limbs. Love those old bows and happy to see Bear is bringing back a metal riser takedown!
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I received my all black 50th anniversary bow back in the fall and have been enjoying shooting it. I just received the two tone one yesterday. Gorgeous wood in the riser of this one. A riser with 45 pound #3 limbs.
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I’ve had 2 wood ones a 1 mag riser. They are great bows. Should have kept one of the B riser ones. The A riser site window was to small for my preference.
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I think I may have a problem! :bigsmyl:
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Blackstick, you have a pleasant problem.. Damn that's sweet.
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Blackstick you have a better problem than some people,LOL. Very Nice. One of these days I would like to have a nice early RH Green Stripe without any holes or inserts with #3 40-45# limbs. I'll be 67 on the 5th of January maybe I better not wait to much longer.
Kurt
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I bought a 50th anniversary Kodiak TD last year. Shoots as good as any custom bow I've owned and I've had quite a few.....
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What Wally said X 2 !
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Here is my pair of 50th Anniversary bows together...
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I just received one of the new Mag take downs the other day...
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New Camouflage A riser with #3 limbs and Great Northern side bolt quiver. The adjustable side plate is the bomb. Extremely accurate bow.
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I can't do the picture thingy.... :dunno:
But I love my new moss green Mag handle!!! I've got it set up with a black Great Northern, like Ray. :archer:
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Can anyone interpret the latest Bear TD serial numbers. I just received a 50th anniversary black maple A model in trade. First line of the serial number is BMBA-21. Second line is 01-002. Might the BMBA stand for Black Maple Bear A? Could 21 be the year in which it was made and 01-002 the month and bow number made, ie. second riser made in the month of January?
BTW, I love the riser. Fuller and physically heavier than other recent risers. I really like the radiused sight window and flatter, wider palm area.
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Yes, Orion that is exactly what those mean.
So you got a handle that was the second one made in January of this year and already the second owner!
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Just my two cents worth of criticism as to why I won't own any of the new wood handles. They are cutting the shelf lower and lower and I can't shoot them. That is why I like the A Mags so well because the higher shelf, of which all limbs were tillered for, and the accessory bushing is the other reason.
That said has anyone compared the new A Mag handle to an old one? Are they identical except for no rubber shelf on the new ones?
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Oh just realized there is no sight window plate. Does the arrow plate still move for cut to center adjustment?
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Kelly: I no longer have a mag riser so i can't compare. However, I do have a Bear Green stripe made in the 80s. The center of that bow is right in the center of the throat/pivot point, and the distance from there to the arrow shelf is one inch without the rug rest. I get the exact same measurement on the 50th anniversary model. Exact center of the bow is the center of the grip throat/pivot point, and from there to the arrow shelf is 1 inch.
If memory serves, most other recurves I've owned in the past placed the rest closer to 1 1/4 inch above the center of the bow or higher. That's certainly the case with my longbows. I know a few longbow builders who place the shelf 2 inches above the center of the bow.
So, long story short, Bear does seem to cut the arrow shelf on their wood risers rather low, but based on my experience with two bows built about 40 years apart, it doesn't seem to have changed much, if at all, over the years. The hype surrounding them sure has though. Maybe some others can measure their bows and weigh in.
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Jerry, my A and B Mag risers are 1 3/16" above center. that might be because of the rubber shelf material still on them. Don't have any B wood to measure but every green stripe I've held have the narrow, low cut shelf which causes my hand to slip on on to the shelf.
Incidentally my 2017 A two tone wood handle is 3/8" overall longer than the A mags and the shelf is the same, 1 3/16" above center. Love the grip on this bow-it feels the same as the #2 grips of my Mags. Tried buying some A wood from 2018 onward and the grips were changed-closer to a #1 Mag grip and the lower, narrow cut shelf, aka Fred's shelf. Don't like that low cut shelf.
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Well, since the rubber on the mags was standard, would have to consider their shelves higher.
I know what you mean about the hand being even with, even encroaching onto the shelf. Of course, Fred liked it that way, and it's become a marketing point lately. Until I measured them, I had no idea the Bear wood risers were cut that close to center/ the pivot point of the bow. On the other hand I did have a B Supreme riser a while back that broke the mold. The shelf was close to 1 1/2 inches above the center of the bow/pivot point of the grip. Bet you would have liked that one. Unfortunately, it was higher than I liked, and I sold it.
I'm sure Bear uses jigs/templates to make the major cuts on wood risers, but from what I've been able to gleen from the risers I've owned as well as info provided by others, there's a lot of variability, minor though it may be, which appears to be the result of the final finishing by individual Bear craftsman. There may be others like your 2017 out there, but almost have to have them in hand to decipher the difference.
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Have those two A wood two tone from 2014 and actually 2016, not 17-just looked- plus two A black with red stripe(son and grandson shoot them) from same years and they are all identical. Where I see the difference in the new ones is the belly end of shelf ends before the glass overlays coming down the sight window, whereas all of mine end right by those overlay.
Was just looking at a new 2021 50th Anniversary in two tone B and the shelf/sight window at the rear/belly are even cut away at an angle just like Fred liked. It would be a great problem for me. Oh well, at least I have some that I like anyway.
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I believe you're describing the difference between a Type I and Type II riser. On the Type I, the belly glass came all the way to the shelf. On the Type II, it was angled the last 1/4 to 1/2 inch or so into the shelf. I believe that change occurred sometime in 1970 on the early Bear risers. They appear to have gone back and forth on the more recent risers.
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Here is an green stripe.
Here are the two tone A I'm referencing. Its on the left. The all Bubinga is cut away slightly Which results in a larger grip opening which doesn't work for my small hands.
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And here is the 2021 50th Anniversary A two tone with even more shelf/sight window cut away. Resulting in more of a lower wrist grip.
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Here is a B Mag with #1 grip. A Mag with #2 grip, my favorite. And a 2016 A two tone.
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Nice bows Kelly. I'd love to find a #2 grip for my A Mag.
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How do you like the A riser and #1 limbs for a shorter 56 inch brush,blind bow etc for a 28 inch draw?
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Steelhead: That's what I've been using for turkey hunting for a good many years. I have about a 28-inch draw. The Bear TDs don't stack at that draw, but I can start to feel a little finger pinch. Not so much feel it as not get off the string cleanly every time. Regardless, I think it's an excellent combination for turkeys out of a blind. I go to a B riser or longer limbs on an A riser to make a 58-60-inch bow for my other hunting and target shooting.
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Brace height question. I have an older Bear chart that lists recommended brace heights for a couple of Bear TD combinations.
It recommends 7 1/2 to 8 1/2inches for a 56-inch bow and 7-8 inches for a B riser 60-inch bow. On my own bows I find that 8 inches is about optimal for my 56-inch bow and about 7 3/4 for the 60-inch Green stripe, both within Bear's paramaters.
Bear does not list recommended brace height parameters for the A riser, long limbs (60-inch) or B riser long limbs (64-inch) configurations.
I have my 60-inch A riser bow set at 8 inches, but it doesn't seem to be optimal and I'm still adjusting.
For those who have an A riser and long limbs, where do you set your brace height?
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7.5” for all of them, or as low as I can go. Always working on ways to lower the brace, ie short stabilizer, heavy arrows, different string material and number of strands, etc. Can’t ever remember being over 8”, even back in the late 1970’s when I used an B Mag riser with #3 limbs at 84#. Yup was crazy then. Did kill a Black Bear in Wyoming with that bow.
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Here is some more shelf comparisons between A Mag, 2017 A two tone and recently acquired A 50th riser.
A Mag is 16 3/8" overall with rubber shelf 1 3/16" above center(also pivot point of grip).
2017 Two tone A is 16 5/8" overall with rug shelf 1 1/2" above center.
2021 50th Anniversary A is 16 3/4" overall with rug shelf barely 1" above center.
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Here is a recent addition to my Bear TD stable. 2021 all black A handle. First observations is this handle is much, much beefier(thicker) than my other wood handled risers that I own, including those that I no longer own. Wasn't sure I was going to like the lower cut shelf(see above)-I usually don't and the jury is still out on that till I shoot it-but with the overall thicker handle and a decent narrower than shelf throat of grip it does feel good in the hand. And it is heavier-don't have a scale to know how much but definitely can feel its heft.
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Yep. They are chunky. My 50th anniversary A riser weighs 29 ounces. That compares to 24 ounces for a blond action wood A riser, and 30 ounces for a B Green stripe riser.
Nice looking riser BTW. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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I've never shot a better bow. I have the A riser and #1 limbs, in bubinga and black maple. It's not perfect, but it's the best bow I've ever shot.
Joe
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Frisky you lost?
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I always like to check in with my friends at Tradgang, lol!
Joe
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Good to see ya over here...
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I lurk quite a bit. I have a reputation as a bowhunter of ill-repute, so I keep a low profile.
Joe
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Where can one find these Bear Takedowns nowdays?
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I got a new B wood riser a couple of years ago. The limbs make it 60" 55#@28. I draw 28"
All my shot go left. Like 10" from 15 ft. I started with 2016 then 2018 I'm now up to 2219 and the point of impact has moved to center. It just doesn't seem right. Suggestions?
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I got a new B wood riser a couple of years ago. The limbs make it 60" 55#@28. I draw 28"
All my shot go left. Like 10" from 15 ft. I started with 2016 then 2018 I'm now up to 2219 and the point of impact has moved to center. It just doesn't seem right. Suggestions?
All mine really liked stiff arrows shooting 3 under about the same weight.
Chad
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Charlie. You shouldn't need that stiff an arrow. The newer Bears do come with low stretch strings, and they're no slouches in the performance department. But Bear TDs are cut to center. With the synthetic side plate they put on them, they're proud of center. All that would point to a shaft about 10# over marked weight. The 2018s should work, or 2117s. What's your brace height. If it's too low, your arrow may be glancing off the side plate and careening off to the left.
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I'll get some measurements tomorrow and get back on here. Brace is very high. Like I said I need to make some measurements. I remember back when I got my first td in 1969 I got great performance from a very low brace height ala Kelley.
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I found 2114’s work and have worked from my 55#@28 B riser for many years now. They weight 500 grains so I never questioned their penetration capabilities. Arrows flying the much left at that range makes me wonder about the bow? Now I can get arrows to do that but that’s because I lose my concentration or my form is lousy.
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Got out mine a couple days ago. B handle (bubinga and phenolic) with my #3, 45 lb. limbs. What a smooth shooter! Love that 64" length! May not be the best for the pop up blind but it is a tack driver!
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Just wondering how many folks here, picked up one of the new Mag Handles...??
I LOVE Mine!!!! I usually Take my 2015 Red Stripe deer hunting, But I just might use my new Mag Handle....
Gotta break it in sometime, Right?? :archer:
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Waiting to see if they bring out a B riser.
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"Just wondering how many folks here, picked up one of the new Mag Handles...??"
Yeah, I've kinda fallen for the new mag risers. I really like them and am shooting them well.
Here is my green riser with 52 pound #3's.
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Here is my camo riser with 57 pound #3's
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I was fortunate enough to pick up one of the limited edition Launch versions with 45 pound clear glass #3 limbs.
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Group shot....
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That's a set nice looking bows, Randell :thumbsup:
I bought my Red Stripe in 2015. I've wanted one for over 30 years.
When I got it, I swore it would be my "hunting bow" till the day I died.... Now, maybe not! LOL
Any plans on hunting with those??
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Nice set, RVTB!
That Launch model looks sweet.
Had no idea about that model!
Had both original A, B models.
Loved my B bow!
Good shootin to ya!
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I was the same way, wanted a Bear T/D for years and finally bought my first when they first brought them back in 2011. I have an all Bubinga A riser that has been my go to hunting bow since I picked it up in 2012 and I have had it hunting in eight different states now. I've since accumulated several of them but I am planning on the camo mag bow being my go to for this years season.
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Randal those limbs are nice looking! I didn’t realize Bear made those? Looks great sir!
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I was fortunate enough to pick up one of the limited edition Launch versions with 45 pound clear glass #3 limbs.
Do they make theLaunch Edition in anything other than 45#?
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The launch version was limited to the first 50 they produced. They were all right handed and 45 pounds. They came with quilted maple limbs, a black riser and a custom takedown case.
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I believe Big Jim was willing to break up a launch set he had. Was offering the limbs for sale for $800 at Compton several weeks ago. Beautiful limbs/workmanship, and I was and still am looking for a set of 45# no.3 limbs. Just couldn't justify the price -- more than double a standard set. Do they shoot twice as good? :bigsmyl:
Still thinking about it though. There's a launch issue on the big auction site right now.
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How do these bows handle long draw length? ( over 31”). Example an a riser with the longer limb 60”.
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I think you would like a B riser and no.3 limbs better for your 31-inch draw. That makes a 64-inch bow.
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Definitely enjoying my mag takedown. Couldn’t stand that grip myself and just shoot off the riser. I like it.
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That old quiver is in wonderful shape, Matthew!!! :thumbsup:
I wish Bear would start making them again!! :archer:
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Ya know, I love the Bear takedowns. Been shooting them off and on ever since they came out. I'm pretty much set on the B mags of old now.
I just wish that Bear would leave out the extras, ( quiver bushings, stupid compass ) and let people put them in themselves if they want. They've made some beautiful combinations over the years but the compass especially is a turn off for me. Might save them and us a few $$ too.
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Shot w a mouth tab. B mag riser 40# at 26" complete passthru
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CONGRATS, Gun!!!!! :clapper: :clapper: :archer: :clapper: :clapper:
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Nice job!
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Here’s my first takedown I picked up recently. It’s an A riser with #1 limbs, with original box and paperwork. It was originally purchased in October 73
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Looks great!
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That's a keeper!!! :thumbsup:
The "A" handle, with #1 limbs, is my favorite!! :archer:
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Thanks…thinking that I will probably refinish the riser because the original flocked finish is basically falling off.
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Nice find. Enjoy!
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Very cool!! Want to sell it :biglaugh:
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Haha…I think I’m gonna keep it. I shot it this weekend and it was sweet.
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Well, I stripped the old flocked finish off this weekend…I’m glad I did because there was some corrosion beginning under what was left of it. Used an etching primer (the kind for aluminum) and painted it with some black wrinkle paint…came out pretty good and with a nice texture similar to original.
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Looks mighty nice, Jon!!!! :thumbsup:
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Thanks guys, I’m pretty happy with how it came out.
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You got that mag lookin' good Jon.
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Couple more pics after reassembly.
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A question, how much do these bows stack at long draw length(31.5”)? The few bears that I have shot ( not takedowns). Stacked a good amount.
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One of the great things about the Bear TD is the ability to combine limbs and risers to make a recurve from 56" (A riser with #1 limbs) to 64" (the B riser with #3 limbs) --- And, of course you can go even longer with the target-style C riser.
Now that Bear has reintroduced the #2 limbs, it is possible to go from 56" to 64" in 2-inch increments using just the A and B risers.
While I would not recommend a 56" combination for someone with a draw length as long as yours, I believe that you would find any combination over 60" to be pretty comfortable.
Just my 2 cents worth on the subject.
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It seems to draw pretty smoothly to me…my draw is only 28”. I did try 3 under and it didn’t seem as smooth.
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I've been shooting split-finger since I could walk. I've played around with 3under for the last 15yrs or so...
Both of my Bear T/Ds seem very noisy shooting 3under.... :dunno:
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I didn’t notice a noise difference, but I think with the short riser and limbs, 3 under could have pulled a lot more on the lower limb (similar to a long draw) and cause some stacking even with my 28” draw. Anyhow I’m very happy with shooting it split finger. It would be interesting to put #3 limbs on it and see how it felt with 3 under.
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How about some pictures of her all put together, Jon!!?? :archer2:
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Here it is prior to refinishing the riser…I was going to wait a couple weeks to make sure the paint is hardened up good before mounting the limbs.
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A question please, does the draw weight go up or down on a 45lb bow?
Thinking of an A riser & no 2 limbs, want 60/62'' bow.
My draw length is 27.75
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The draw weight goes up as the riser length goes down…so my limbs which are 50# on an A riser are 48# on a B riser and 43# on a C riser.
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Also you would need #3 limbs to make a 60” bow on an A riser
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Ideal draw weight for what I want would be 43/44 LB at 62''
So I think a B-riser and no 2 limbs might be best, your opinion?
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Any chance you can try out the various length risers before buying. There's a pretty big difference in the feel between an A and B riser, IMO.
The B riser, no. 2 limb combination will give you a 62-inch bow. However, given your draw length, a 60-inch bow (A riser, no.3 limbs) would provide more than enough length. On the other hand, if you really want a longer bow, go for it.
Not as many older no.2 limbs available as there are no.1s or no.3s, but Bear did just start making no. 2 limbs again.
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Well I couldn’t take it any longer…when my six year old asked to go stump shooting I had to string it up.
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Looks great, Jon!!!!! :thumbsup:
The average "break-in" period for a Bear T/D is 8-9 months...
You should be ready by next season!! :archer2:
Oh wait! Can't you Conn. guys hunt untill the end of Feb.?? :archer:
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Most zones end Dec. 31 for turkey and deer.
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JohnCT&Orion,
Thank you for the advice, I will try the A&B risers to see which fit my hand best.
Thinking a B-riser and no 1or2 limbs should be great.
I will post when i find out.
Oh and merry Christmas to all.
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Back up!!! For some fun reading!! :archer:
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Me:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3apvrel1yo
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Saw this thread pop up the other day and it has inspired me to finally take the plunge and upgrade my Sage. After a bunch of hemming and hawing, settled on the B riser Bubinga with 45lb #3 limbs (my draw is 30"so thinking it will end up being ~50lb), placed the order this morning. Can hardly wait.
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I'm sure you'll be happy with it, Kent!!! :archer2:
(I waited 40 years to buy my first one, LOL)
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Chuck- "8-9 months break in period" ?! Serious?
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Ben that B riser you are considering with either #1 or # 2 limbs is gonna work fine for you at your 27.5 inch draw.
IMO the #2s are gonna feel little more smoother and be very stable and be a great bow for either hunting or 3-D.The #1s are also gonna be nice and give you a shorter hunting bow and maybe a little bit more performance.A little!
Either way you go your gonna have good fit.
You can always add different length limbs later and or the A riser if you like your original Bear T.D bow.most start with one combo and if they like it they add different limbs and risers sooner or later.
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I have a 50th A Riser in black maple and N.1 limbs. I really enjoy it and it’s a great shooting bow. Arguably one of the best hunting bows in my opinion.
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Chuck- "8-9 months break in period" ?! Serious?
NOPE!! Just kidin' LOL :biglaugh:
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Looks NICE, Jacob!!!!! :thumbsup:
I always liked the black maple!!! They didn't offer it in 2015 when I bought mine....
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So here is the route I have decided to take !! B risers one left, one right !! 35-45# limbs. This bad shoulder thing ain’t going to stop me !!
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Now that's quite a pair, Ron!!!!!
Sounds like a great idea!!! :archer:
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I have the same Ron, but Mag B risers. Always was right handed until nerve damage 4 yrs ago. Then went Lefty 2 yrs ago. Tore two tendons in my right shoulder. Mouth tab right handed last year. Surgery in March. Hoping for full lefty again by fall.
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Hope all goes well for ya, Gun!!!!
Hang in there, Brother!!!
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Here's my two. Keeping the A mag for sure.
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Just bought another Mag A-handle in Camo!! :archer:
(Like I really NEED another bow...) :banghead:
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I just bought another one. A 1980s factory camouflaged Bear Kodiak Takedown. :bigsmyl:
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Looks like a nice addition to your 'herd' Frank. Congratulations.
Shick
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The Kodiak takedown is favorite recurve. I’ve got 3, A riser models with different poundage and limb lengths. 50th anniversary Black maple, African Bubinga and phenolic and a red stripe Rambo edition cause it was released on my birthday. Absolutely love the takedown design.
Some day I’ll get a B riser specifically for 3D archery.
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Nice collection of wood risers. I wasn’t shooting mine as much as my Mag riser so I passed it on to someone who is. I bought some new #3 limbs and put them on my B Mag riser. It’s a perfect combo for me especially since I bought limbs in a realistic weight for this old man. Even made up some X-7 aluminum arrows for indoor target shooting. Still not sure about the new metal risers, colors anyway. The Fred E riser maybe to “modern” for my tastes? I do have my eyes on a wood C riser but that may or may not happen?
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Just to keep this thread going. Another pix of my September Bull. Shot using my teeth.
I am shooting normal right handed 40# in the basement while still working my rehab. Everything going exceptionally well. My surgeon can't believe my progress. Should be in the 50# range by spring at this rate.
Weird having to work on my form and release. Thot that would come back naturally. Shooting lefty for two years may have messed up my brain..... or maybe its just old age? :dunno:
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For those who own these and shot others, is the grip low, medium or high? Also is it a fat grip or narrow?
How would the grip compare to a 59r and a Grizzly. 59r is perfect for me, grizzly is too fat.
I want to get my hands on one some day but too expensive to buy just to try
Thanks
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You can get grip for the old risers in low, medium, or high grip. I prefer the medium. The wood risers are all over the place it seems depending on who finished them at the factory.
I wonder why they don’t get a CNC machine and offer the same three choices as those old grips.
I also have a “no stripe” that I modified w a file and sandpaper to feel better for me.
I shoot w a straight wrist so overall the feel doesn’t matter. Just a personal “carry and feel” issue for me.
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Speaking of grips, I have a 50th anniversary model that has a fairly wide/fat medium grip. I like it, except that my hand does tend to slip up into the throat more than I want as I draw the bow. Would like to get the grip area checkered. Anyone know of someone who does this? I'm aware of Sherry Abraham, but am having trouble contacting her. I know Dave Windauer also checkers. Any others?
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I have stippled a grip my self. (not on a Bear TD) Not very hard to do. Dremel tool and a small ball bit. Way cheaper than having someone checker. You can also use the self stick bandage wrap.
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Thank you for the reply
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Just to keep this thread going. Another pix of my September Bull. Shot using my teeth.
I am shooting normal right handed 40# in the basement while still working my rehab. Everything going exceptionally well. My surgeon can't believe my progress. Should be in the 50# range by spring at this rate.
Weird having to work on my form and release. Thot that would come back naturally. Shooting lefty for two years may have messed up my brain..... or maybe its just old age? :dunno:
I hear lots of people in my business tell me how they had to switch to a crossbow because they had a soar shoulder or they stubbed there toe or something...You deserve a big high five for shooting a recurve with your teeth! Bravo
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Yeah that’s Damn impressive, killing a moose with the Kodiak takedown, and using your teeth.
That’s a different type of dedication right there! :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Coolest thing I’ve taken is a bobcat last year with my Bubinga Kodiak takedown. Hopefully have an impala or wildebeest with it this July from South Africa.
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Took the Kodiak takedown out only a couple times this season. It’s mainly been a Sarrels longbow year for me. Let the Bear eat yesterday morning. Love the way this compact recurve handles.
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Congrats guys!
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My latest addition to my collection a B mag riser. Fitted it with #3 limbs 42lbs. Pretty sweet shooter.
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Excellent combo, soap creek.
Shick
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Something a little different....
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The brown hood Selway quiver goes well with the Buckskin riser.
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Certainly a lot of history in them. My 10yo son shot a friends bear takedown when they visited us recently. He had an A riser with #1 limbs for 30#@28" for his wife. My son shot it and was shooting great with it. Now I want to get one for him with the same specs. It would be handy for me too as a backup bow if I got some heavier limbs to go with it.
wood or mag A riser wouldn't matter.
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I've settled on these two. I shoot the mag risers better. Sold my B wood riser. I like the looks of the wood and the fact that it's not as cold in winter, but I just shoot these best.
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RVTB How do you like the Eichler edition? I'm thinking about buying one but not to sure if I'd like that type of handle. I bought the A mag last year and really like that however I might need to switch to lefty and they don't offer the mag in a left hand. So that new handle could be my option.
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Is it possible to slide a Bear grip on the Eichler riser is you choose to do so?
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I don't have an Eichler riser, but I've read that it's not compatible with the older Bear rubber or plastic grips. I suppose one could modify a grip to fit, or make one's own. That's the big complaint I've heard about the riser so far. Most would like it to have some sort of replaceable grip.
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Thanks for your input fellas, I will probably just get the A handle in a lefty.
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Just curious is it true that the new Bear bows are suffering from serious quality control? I've been considering getting one for a while now but it's a lot of money to spend if the quality isn't there
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Just curious is it true that the new Bear bows are suffering from serious quality control? I've been considering getting one for a while now but it's a lot of money to spend if the quality isn't there
The only QC issue I’ve personally seen and most seen online is the new production of their standard Grizzly recurve. I’ve yet to see any QC gripes or issues with their Custom Kodiak takedowns.
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Picked up my first B riser last month, Bubinga 50th anniversary model. Took me some time getting accustomed to the weight of the bow and 64” length. I’m really liking it, just taking some time to mesh with it.
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How would you say the mass weight is in comparison to a vintage MA Widow?
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I shot the new Eichler riser at Kalamazoo a few weeks ago, and I gota say I am totally impressed. Just when I thought my Bear T/D collection was complete, here we go again!
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I shot the new Eichler riser at Kalamazoo a few weeks ago, and I gota say I am totally impressed. Just when I thought my Bear T/D collection was complete, here we go again!
I’ve already seen several people who recently bought em trying to sell em. Same as I did with the new A Mag riser I had. I’m a big fan of the 50th anniversary models. Got the A 56” for hunting and B 64” for target shooting.
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Just curious is it true that the new Bear bows are suffering from serious quality control? I've been considering getting one for a while now but it's a lot of money to spend if the quality isn't there
I build after market limbs for these things all the time, and the limb alignment from one riser to the next is sure different. More so in the wood risers than the mags, but even those are a wee bit different.
I have to have my customers send their risers to me so i can insure the alignment is right before shaping the limb profile... The older ones are a wee bit different to though... Kirk
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Due to some health issues, I am considering purchasing a b mag riser and long limbs. I want about 45@ 31.5”. Would I need 35 lb limbs or something else?
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If you went with 35# #3 limbs, that’ll put you around 39# at 31.5. I’d go with a set of anniversary limbs, 40#, should get you around 44#.
Jerry at stickbowsupplies or Noble Sinclair are both Bear dealers and great to deal with.
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I have an Excellent condition newer B Riser TD 60" 55# in the classifieds if anyone knows someone that is looking for one.
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If you went with 35# #3 limbs, that’ll put you around 39# at 31.5. I’d go with a set of anniversary limbs, 40#, should get you around 44#.
Jerry at stickbowsupplies or Noble Sinclair are both Bear dealers and great to deal with.
Hey Billy, I sent you a pm.... i think you may need to rethink your calculations. These have a wee bit more pounds per inch between 28-31.5" than you think. 35# would probably fit the bill nicely. Kirk
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If you went with 35# #3 limbs, that’ll put you around 39# at 31.5. I’d go with a set of anniversary limbs, 40#, should get you around 44#.
Jerry at stickbowsupplies or Noble Sinclair are both Bear dealers and great to deal with.
Hey Billy, I sent you a pm.... i think you may need to rethink your calculations. These have a wee bit more pounds per inch between 28-31.5" than you think. 35# would probably fit the bill nicely. Kirk
Yeah we’re both estimating here... Every set of limbs are different. If 35# don’t get ya there, try the 40# route. I’m sure you’ll find the combo your looking for.
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Due to some health issues, I am considering purchasing a b mag riser and long limbs. I want about 45@ 31.5”. Would I need 35 lb limbs or something else?
Yes, 35# limb should get in the correct ballpark. 31.5” is 3.5” over 28” so at 3# per inch you would be at 11.5# increase.
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I'm seeing 4# per inch on two sets I'm using these days.
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Something a little different....
How many guys have purchased these new risers from Bear? I’m curious if you are having limb fit issues with them?
I build a lot of after market limbs for TD Bear risers, and I’m doing my first set for one of these new Eichler risers for a customer. The 1/4” dado in the limb butts that fits 99% of the Bear risers is so tight I can’t even mount the limbs on this new riser….
Any one else have these issues? I’m going to have to customize these limbs to fit this riser….
Another question… Do they have rubber grips or plastic grips for these?
Kirk
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There are NO grips of any kind for this riser.
The spline machined in these riser for that slot in the limbs is wider than the same spline machined in the old and new Mag handles and all of the wood handles.
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By "Dado" do you mean the pin that fits into the hole on the limb butts?
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No, I think he means the slot in the bottom of the limbs, anyway that is what I’m referring to.
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Kirk,
I have two of the risers and there are two more at our archery club that guys have and I have helped set up. I have had no issues in installing #1 or #3 limbs on any of them so far. I haven't tried a set of the new #2's yet.
An interesting observation on your behalf. All of us have made the comment at how quiet these risers are compared to the other mag risers or the wood risers. I wonder if that slightly tighter limb fit may be contributing to it.
Randy
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Kirk,
I have two of the risers and there are two more at our archery club that guys have and I have helped set up. I have had no issues in installing #1 or #3 limbs on any of them so far. I haven't tried a set of the new #2's yet.
An interesting observation on your behalf. All of us have made the comment at how quiet these risers are compared to the other mag risers or the wood risers. I wonder if that slightly tighter limb fit may be contributing to it.
Randy
Randy I know its subjective, but how does that grip feel? I like my narrow LE riser but the 50th was "meh".
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There are no issues with installing new(2014 and newer). The issues I have had are with the older Grayling limbs-they simply won't fit because the slot/dado is narrower. Have had no issues with the older limbs fitting the new mag or wood risers.
The other issues I've had with newer limbs is their inconsistency-most are a very sloppy fit, especially on the Eichler riser.
The Eichler seems quieter and lighter in the hand and does shoot well, if one can get used to the grip.
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Thanks for the feed back guys.
I've noticed quite a bit of difference from one Bear riser to the next one. But mostly it has been alignment issues. That's why i have my customers send me their risers so i can custom fit the limbs and make sure they are straight. I've had some that were pretty loose, and others tighter, but typically i can mill the slot in the limbs at .25" (1/4" ) and have them work fine with a little fine tuning.
I fit the limbs to the riser first with a full width limb profile, then center line them and shape the limb width profile dead straight...... But.... I cannot even get a 1/4" slot to even mount on the Fred Eichler riser. The tendon measures .020 - .024 wider than the std Bear riser. I had to do a lot of sanding to get these limbs to slide into the groove.
If the limbs are too loose and move from side to side a bit in the riser, it moves those limb tips a LOT... This can cause limb alignment issues, poor tracking, and even limb twist if its bad enough. With a conservative limb design, you can get away with a wee bit of slop in the fit. But with these static tip recurve limbs i build. as well as the Hybrid long bow design, they need to be dead straight to get good alignment and tracking.
Here are a few pictures if you are interested...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fjaQfE5PTT8JntKu9
If you cannot open this link to see the photos, please let me know and i can upload them to this thread.
Kirk
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50th anniversary Kodiak takedown did well at our recent South African trip.
A riser, #1 limbs, 56” 50# perfect for the blinds and in the Bush.
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For those of you that have bought one of the new Fred Eichler risers from Bear, R-Core is now making grips for this riser. Shipping takes a while as they are coming from Greece, but they are making an excellent grip. Only complaint I have is the website has so many options for grips. Hard to figure out what I wanted! :biglaugh:
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The old mag still working for me. No teeth were involved with this one. Back to a bit of normal
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Nice buck, Gun. I kind of like the old mag risers myself. Haven't had a chance to try one of the Fred Eichler risers yet.
R.V. Nice looking grip. Does sit pretty low under the arrow rest compared to other Bear mag and wood riser configurations.
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Glad to see the fingers are working again, Gun!!!
Nice Buck, Brother!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
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I like the modern look of the new riser but not all of us shoot off the shelf. That riser in green with a set of the green glass limbs from 3R would make a nice comb
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That is a beautiful buck, Gun.
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Recently got a 50th takedown. I tried one at KY tradfest this spring and just loved it. Very happy with it. Shoots smooth and love that grip! Pretty dang fun. Took it out this morning for opening day in Indiana. Saw 3 does and 4 fawns but nothing close enough. Lots of squirrels on black and red oaks, but not much for white oaks this fall.
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For those of you who love Bear takedowns, you may want to check out the new 2024 offering… It looks like Bear is coming out with takedown longbow limbs.
https://www.beararchery.com/collections/traditional-bows/products/bear-archery-long-bow-take-down-limbs
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The old ones work just fine.
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I think I have a Bear Kodiak Takedown addiction problem, now I own seven of them. :biglaugh: I just bought this one with all bubinga riser a couple days ago. On the riser it has BTB-11 so it's a 2011 which is strange because all my information says all bubinga risers were made in 2012 and 2013. :dunno:
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Nice bow Frank!
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Green stripe with the new green glass limbs….
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Green is my favorite color. I ordered a pair of those a few months ago. When I got them I wasn't impressed with the finish and the glass had flaws in them. I sent them back.
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Yeah I've had two sets (not the greenies) that I send back for finish and one was twisted something fierce. These are nice.
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Here are the new longbow limbs on a new A Mag and an A wood Anniversary, both make 58” bows but the A Mag has a 7.25” brace and the wood is 7.5”. The wood is a tad longer riser.
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So how would you describe the longbow limbs when you shoot them. They look good for sure!
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Kelly,
I did see what you wrote on the other forum. Thanks for that. I will try to shoot them at Kalamazoo. Never really been a longbow guy at all but I guess if they are completely silent they would have a place on one of my Bear handles.
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I shot them more this evening, maybe 40 times. Used 1716’s and 1813’s weighing 460 and 440 respectively. Tried 7.5” brace but will go back down cause they didn’t shoot any better. Will try 7” or lower to to see what I can get away with. I really like how this thing shoots with the newer A Mag handle. Now I need to get a string built for it and also waiting the 5# heavier limbs on order. If all goes well I may even order another heavier set.
Originally I shot it with stiffer arrows, 1816’s and 1913’s weighing 540 and 520 and they shot very well being only a 30# bow. I rarely shoot over 15/18 yards so it’s plenty quick enough for me. I very much prefer the stability and quiet of the longbow limbs, plus the forgiveness. Wasn’t going to hunt with my Bear TD because I couldn’t shoot it as good as my Black Hunter longbow, but now I just may hunt with it now.
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Anyone try the new #2 limbs? Seems like most gravitate to either the number 1 or number 3 limbs. Thinking a b riser with number 2 limbs would be a decent combo for longer draw lengths.
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I just bought a new set of no 2 limbs. I do have a B riser, but I bought them to use on my A riser. If this set is any indication, Bear seems to have overcome it's quality control issues. Fit, finish and alignment are flawless.
They're quite quick for their weight, and I like the length for my just shy of 28-inch draw. I usually shoot no.3s on my A riser, but these shoot and feel just as good, and I like the looks (bend of the limbs)of the strung bow a little better with the shorter limbs.
ESP. I think they would make a very shootable, comfortable 62-inch bow on a B riser for longer draws.
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Thank you Orion
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2023 Buck.
1980's factory camo greenstripe Bear Kodiak Takedown (55#@28").