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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Wolfie2nd on December 10, 2010, 09:00:00 AM
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Well I was looking at your fish and game regulations and they kinda of make it hard for a Yankee to understand. I want to do a hunting / camping trip next year and I can't figure out how much my license will cost me with the stamps/tags for a buck. And also do they allow camping on state ground. I have never just up and gone to another state to hunt.
I wanted to do an elk hunt but I think I want to try something a little closer to home. Any help would be great!
Thanks in advance,
Doug
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Doug let me know what you find out,always wanted to do that.You may find more info on the WV forum bottom of main page.
http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=113
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If your interested you can get in once I figure out what the deal is
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That sounds good I will do some research as well,some of my friends do gun hunt's the cheap way.
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I looked at maps in Logan county the terrain looks pretty rough. Google maps does not show elevation. I think ill look for a topo map online
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that's funny Doug! they make it hard for ANYONE to understand. LOL I'll PM you my number and 'maybe' I can help out.
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I go back home to WV to hunt and I have to buy a non-resident license. It cost me $200 for my license, spring gobbler, and archery deer tag. If you want to hunt bears which the area I hunt there's more bear than deer right now then it's $162 for a bear tag. What county or area are you looking to hunt?
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I'm thinking Logan county.....
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Logan county holds some big bucks, also look at McDowell county.... if ya want to see some trail camera pics of the area shoot me a pm..
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How is the access in those two counties ? Also does anyone know if you camp on public grounds?
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Is it full of posted signs ?
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no there is alot of public hunting but I'd suggest doing some research alot of the land is owned by coal companies but you can hunt alot of them just need to look into it a bit. I dont know much about the camping but I know alot of people do camp just not sure where at.....
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I will try to help you out with the license. First you will need a class E nonresident license which is $119.00 which allows you a deer with gun. You must also buy a conservation/law enforcement stamp ($13.00). A class (UU) archery stamp cost ($32.00) which allows a buck or doe. You can purchase a (W) muzzleloader stamp at $32.00. You can also purchase a turkey stamp (WW)at $32.00. An additional archery stamp(RRB) cost
$37.00.Additional gun (RRG) is $43.00. Additional muzzleloader (RRM) is $37.00. Antlerless deer tags (NN) are $27.00. You can buy a bear license for $162.00 plas a $10.00 (DS) stamp. The class (E) stamp also allows for small game. If you only wanted to bow hunt you could get buy for for $164.00 for only 1 buck. Anything else is the prices I give you added on. Hope that helps.
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We recommend going to the 'Bow Zone' for a few days end of Feb looking for sheds and an initial scout. Follow up with a spring gobbler hunt in the same area - even though these 4 counties are not the best for turkeys - but there are enough to work with - stay on point - after a winter scout and a spring hunt you are probably ready to hunt deer bow only fall hunt. I still like a late Sept scout to check acorns and at which elevations. One of the very best bowhunts anywhere.
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That is some great FYI. I planned on going out there one time to check things out , but the turkey hunt now that's good. I forgot all about turkey. We have a bad turkey population in my area with tons of pressure so I don't even bother. Great one more reason to get out of NJ.
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Funny how one monster buck photo floating around the internet peaks a lot of interest...8^)
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To be honest I haven't any clue about a big buck on the internet. I just want a cheap DIY hunt away from NJ in another state. I figured Logan county because its part of the bow only and I've herd some talk about it.
We have big bucks in NJ the only problem is that they are night owls due to all the baiting and high pressure on little land.
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I had a smilely at the end, was just joking around...8^)
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I go down to WV and rent cabins in the state parks, one is in Kumbrabo and there is another in Pocohontas county. The cabins are beautiful and you have lots of state land ot hunt on. There is a million acres of national forest you can hunt for a couple of extra dollars. The Kumbrabo area is in Randolph county and is hard to hunt but it sure is beautiful. The Kumbrabo park is over 10,000 acres and there is plenty of elbow room .I like to combine a Spring Gobler hunt with trout fishing.
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Well that is good to know. Thanks for the FYI. All you guys have been great help.
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Along the lines of do it your self - we have hunted the bow zone on and off for 20 years. On our own we have each had shot opportunities at good bucks - 130s - 140s - with a few times along the way at 150s maybe bigger. Big Bucks are cool - but the real reason we hunt there is the true wild adventure. You can see a bobcat, coyote, deer, turkey, grouse or bear we while scouting or sitting and you very likely will. Amazing how many bears we bump into. There has been a new early bear gun season which could destroy that - we'll see.
It is rough country - very steep - stand entry is still my biggest challenge since I seem to always have a mile walk before stand entry.
Most of the 4 counties are open to anyone. Coal Company land is good. RD Bailey is good. McDowel Co probably has more hunters from NC than from WV :)
I love it there and just talking about it gets me going. Been a few years since we went.
Try to pick one or two hollows by studying topos - then spend time scouting those for actual hunting. Scouting there is serious business - spend a day or days walking just one hollow - you will find old homesites, abandoned wells, gas wells, timber - cut maybe - apple trees - scrape lines - as well as the food source which is often red oaks. Basically the whole place has water, feed and cover. You are looking for contours - thick cover - and a plan to access (enter & exit) - mining reclaim needs to be looked at also.
Most times you are dragging a deer downhill - but be prepared to use frieghtor packs or wheeled carts. Bucks weigh well into the 200# range - I have seen some pushing 300# - does (always get a doe tag and fill it) are big too 150# or so.
Camping - cool
Cabin rental - cool
Motel - Ok for scout trips - even short hunts
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Yeah I'm definitely going to do some late winter scouting a turkey hunt come spring and more scouting right before the hunting season. I am so jacked up and can't wait to do some shed hunting! Hopefully have some :campfire: stories coming up soon
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Here is a link that I use from time to time:
http://www.wvdnr.gov/Hunting/WMAMap.shtm
I have been looking into Wyoming county for a few years now. With work and new kiddies over the last couple of years just been tough to get away.
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I live in Wyoming county, one of 4 bowhunting only counties. I would say for #s of P&Y bucks, Wyoming & Logan usually swap places every few years. McDowell occasionally takes the lead and Mingo is always last but still has some nice bucks. The most huntable would probably be RD Bailey WMA which is in Wyoming & Mingo. They have a primitive camping area that is available for use during bow season. My girlfriend lives in Logan Co. and I've met quite a few bowhunters there who consistently take trophy bucks but to my knowledge there is very little public land, most of it is controlled by coal companies that will not allow access or it is leased to private hunting clubs. Alot of Wyoming & McDowell counties are also leased up. But.....don't think that because RD Bailey is a WMA that it gets too much pressure. If you are willing to walk and I mean rough walking, there are lots of places where you will never see another hunter. I promise you there are bucks in these counties that die of old age. I took a buck in 2007 that was 8 1/2 years old and a doe last year that was 8 1/2 This year has been really tough as there are acorns everywhere! Deer have been darn near impossible to pattern! I did see a bruiser 8 pointer during Thanksgiving week, actually saw him twice on the same day and had him 15-20 yds from me just couldn't get the shot. He would probably score in the 140s. You can't control the weather but if you do decide to come down try to be here the week of the new moon. The week before Thanksgiving is really one of the best weeks.
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Now I had a feeling I would run into private land problems.
That's why I didn't even bother looking into Ohio
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RD Bailey is 17,000 acres, and anyone can hunt it. ATVs are not allowed but you can walk, use a bicycle, or use a canoe or jon boat to get to some pretty remote areas.
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I've bow hunted McDowell and Logan.And yes you can camp.I've shot bucks in both co's.sHORT STEEP MOUNTAINS\\
I've bow hunted both McDowell and Logan and killed mature bucks in both.Short steep mountains.Bucks are nice but #'s are probery not what your use to.I perfer McDowell have'nt hunted it in a few years.But would'nt hestate to go back.
As far as elk there is a spill over from KY in a few Co.'s. But we don't have and elk program yet.But it's coming.If you what to elk hunt go to KY for sure.I have had 2 friends both kill bulls 2 bulls each sence 07.