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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: NewtoTrad2008 on December 15, 2010, 10:54:00 AM
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I found out that I will be getting a little extra this year and I think another bow is in order. I love my Mohawk but would like to try some thing a little shorter, I am thinking 56" or so, 50-55# @ 26" and tillered for three under. I like the looks of the shrew and have heard greeat things about them. What others are out there that I should take a look at? What should I look out for?
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Big Jim's Thunderchild!
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I have a 56" Shrew Classic Hunter that I bought fom Alan Shafer just to see if I would like the whole short longbow thing and it has become my goto for a longbow. I havesold all my long longbows except the BW and it is on the block now.
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Originally posted by centaur:
Big Jim's Thunderchild!
x2 cant go wrong with a tc!
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Shrew Classic Hunter !!!
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I think a Centaur would have to go on the "short" list as well. :laughing:
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I just thought of something, is a short longbow an oxymoron, or am I just a moron? :smileystooges:
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Originally posted by ka:
Shrew Classic Hunter !!!
Yes and Yep! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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-been lookin at the short ACS longbows myself...56-58", 12" riser with a recurve grip. Too many great options out there.
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Give Dave Beeler's Tracker Longbow consideration. Not saying you should buy it, just saying look at it and think about it.
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if i hadda go short, it'd be a shrew for sure. :thumbsup: .
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One of Jason Kendall's Kanatis would be one to consider.
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I have, or have had, both a Dave Beeler 56" Hybrid, and a 56" Big Jim ThunderChild. You couldn't go wrong with either. I'm on the list for a 2pc ThunderChild and will probably get it in a 54" length as I draw 26".
You won't find either of these come-up used much, as the ThunderChild is a fairly new model and I expect folks will hold on to them, they are awesome bows . Dave Beeler just started offering his again after a lay-off and I don't know what his wait is.
Shrews have a long wait, but have been around long enough that getting hold of one used is easier. Watch the classifieds for one of them.
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Lost Creek bows are the best I have shot. Chad is a great guy and you can't go wrong with him. I draw 26.5-27" and have his 54" NAT. Mine is 51lbs @ 26 and had a pass through on my black bear this fall. Don't buy without at least talking to Chad. What ever you decide enjoy it and shoot it well.
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I'm sorry I can't help ya !LOL there are just to many great short bows out there.I would have an easier time picking you a wife!LOL I have a TC and a shrew,both fantastic.
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If you're going under 58", go with a Shrew. I'm kind of short bow nut and I can't find anything more efficient or comfortable to shoot than Ron's design.
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There are lots of good quality short bows available, but wait time on some are tooooo long.
Steve Gorr at Cascade Bows (a sponsor) has recently introduced the Brush Hawk, a 56" longbow, that has already become his best seller.
Info on the bow is not on his site, but do a search in "PowWow" for Cascade and pull up the multi-page thread called "New Bow from Cascade Archery". There are lots of pics and info on this bow, and at a very attractive price.
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I own 2 Lost Creek bows. 60 & 26 in. Can't be beat.
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My wifes Lost Creek NAT took less than a month, at real a nice price. I wonder how it compares in delivery times to other bows. Speed wise I am really impressed, but for its accuracy and forgiveness that is so remarkable it is beyond anything that I would believe out of a 54" bow had I not seen it myself.
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I second, third, fourth, ? the Thunderchild...
Pm sent
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I have a Cascade 56" Brush Hawk on order. I'll let you know what I think of it when I get it.
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Treadway longbow, amazingly smooth for a 56" bow,no stack, quick,quiet, no handshock, and very reasonably priced.
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Super Shrew,or Dwyer Endeavor if 58" isn't to long.
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Definitely the Shrews and Dave Beeler hybrids. :thumbsup: :archer2:
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Shrew Classic Hunter without a doubt. I like the 52".
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Yep my vote goes to the Classic Hunter, absolutly amazing bows. I draw my 56" to 29 1/2" with no problem....and as for short bows being "sensitive", I dont think so, at least not the Shrew Classic Hunter.
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Only had a few shots out of a couple, thunder child and brush hawk, both good, but the brush hawk is what I would have taken home,
Cheers
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St. Joe River makes a 58" longbow, I have a 60" and draw 29 1/2 inches on it and many that thing is a rocket!! At 54# it shoots faster than my friends 63# Black Widow recurve!! The other things that impressed me was I was able to shoot my 535gr. carbons, 615gr. Alluminums, and 700gr Ceadars all with perfect arrow flight in inside a 3" group at 15 yards without have the change a thing!! Talk about stable and forgiving bow to shoot wich is hard to find in a long draw on a shot bow!!They make some shorter recurves as well and those things SCREAM an arrow. Worth checking out!!
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Originally posted by champ38:
Yep my vote goes to the Classic Hunter, absolutely amazing bows. I draw my 56" to 29 1/2" with no problem....and as for short bows being "sensitive", I don't think so, at least not the Shrew Classic Hunter.
That is exactly my experience too, including the same draw length.
Allan
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I have a martin rebel that I use for bowfishing that is 52" that I just love. I have a 29" draw and it doesn't stack.
I owned a Shrew a long time ago and it stacked on my 29" draw. Ron makes a great bow, but the one that I owned wasn't a good fit for me.
Some of the older Bear recurves are a smaller bow and are good shooters.
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Haven't shot them all, but I love my Dwyer Endeavor.
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned a Morrison ILF... I have a Mini 14 [ actually a 13" ] riser and a set of carbon/maple cored 58# "C" length L/B limbs ....exactly 56" amo and 53 1/2" n-n when strung.. beautiful, stable, smooth, fast, bow and it's easy to travel with... besides the fact that it allows some adjustment to draw weight and tiller adjustment.
I personaly have owned several of the ones previously mentioned and this bow along with a 2 pc C/H Shrew [ wish John Mc Colough made a 2 pc. Griffin this short ] Would be at the top of my "A" list.
With your draw length, you could actually use "B" length limbs and get a 54" Bow on a mini riser or go up to a 15" riser with "B" limbs and still have a 56" bow.
Gene
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No one has mentioned Maddog. He makes longbows from 52" and up. I have several 52" bows that draw out to 27" no problem.I draw 26" and love mine. Best part is the wait is only 2-3 months and the best prices around.
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I've shot several Mohawk longbows (as well as many others like Hornes, Shrew and Black Widdow) owned by my friend and fellow Trad Ganger, Bentpole. He would know if Mohawk makes any short bows.In my opinion you can't go wrong with a Thunderstick because this is the best shooting bow I've shot.
I own a 56" Thunderstick Mag that's 45# @ 28".
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Centaur, Centaur, Centaur!
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Dwyer Endeavor, 50@28, 58". I draw 29 and change with no problem This is a very well made, dead in the hand, stable bow and the Dwyers are top notch folks to deal with.
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I have a cari-bow wolverine 58" long,It's my go to treestand bow. fast,smooth and quiet. Abe builds a fantastic bow.
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I second the Morrison Mini-14 ILF.
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Originally posted by Mojo Rising:
I second the Morrison Mini-14 ILF.
Definitely a GREAT choice!!!
Allan
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Originally posted by MartinD:
One of Jason Kendall's Kanatis would be one to consider.
You beat me to it. If you are drawing 28" or under, he makes a 56" Kanati that would be awesome. Nothing against the Shrews, but you can buy a new Kanati, a quiver, a dozen arrows, broadheads, an arm guard, a glove or tab, and still have money left over compared to a new Shrew. Jason's bows are smoking fast, dead in the hand, deathly quiet, and stack free. The quality is second to none.
Disclaimer: I am not related to or associated with Jason Kendall in any way (except as a customer), but I have shot enough of his bows to know what they are. My Kanati is my go-to bow, and I can't see that changing...ever. :readit:
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A Kanati is tough to beat......Mine is 58" I draw 29+" and it is a shooter. I haven't had it that long but it is going to be around for a while.
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I like the 58" ACS limbs on their 14" riser. bow is smooth and fast. I have a 12" riser and limbs on the way. Can't wait!
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X3 on the KANATI by Jason Kendall.
A fantastic product at a great price!
You don't see many on the secondary market and if you do, they don't last long....
Shoot straight, Shinken
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Dave Beeler would be my choice,,super quiet quick little bow, Dave is excellent when it comes to customer service and you're not going to age that much waiting on the bow.
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I love my Beelers, I also love my Horne's Brush bow. Either is a great choice.
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I don't shoot a real short one but the Kanati I believe is a great buy in a short longbow. I have two at 60 inch length. They are shooters and they come back 30 inches just fine. They are a very fair price and the delivery is way shorter than a shrew. I have shot both. I think the Kanati is one of the best buys going. Not putting down a shrew at all either. They are a beautiful bow.
There is my two cents - jwingman
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Another to cionsider is the Wild Horse Creek-- it's right up there IMHO
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WOW! I had no idea there were so many choices. I wish I could shoot them all. Now comes the hard part, making a decision. Thank you everyone for you advice, I am making a list and checking it twice(I couldn't resist). I guess now it will come down to talking to the boyers and the archers that shoot them. Here is my list so far, price was one of the deciding factors.
Big Jim Thunderchild
Beeler Tracker
Lost Creek NAT
Thunderstick
Kanati
Cascade Brush Hawk
Dwyer Endeavor
For those of you that have one, any input would be appreciated, include how the boyer was to deal with.
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Take a look at Rick Ellis (Striker Bows) I have a 56" slapstick that shoots fast and hard and where you want it to.
I have been intersted in the centaurs but I love my Striker.
Stiks
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hey good neighbor... shrew!
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I ordered a Dwyer Endeavor in Oct. and should receive it in July or Aug.It took me a year to make up my mind. When talking with Dave I wanted 63#@29" and there was no problem and they are great to work with, now the wait 9 months seems like a long time but for a great bow it is worth it.
Dave
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BEST BANG 4 THE BUCK
Lost Creek
Great shooting bows
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I really don't think you could go wrong with any on your list.Its going to be your personnel decicion. How about Blondes,Redheads or Brunettes?LOL So many factors come into play that only you can decide.
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I don't have my Thunderchild just yet, but my dealings with Big Jim have been very good. He answers emails, and is patient and helpful when you make changes. Seems like a pretty good fella.
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I'd add one more:
56" Original Treadaway blackforest...
Fantastic short longbow, mild r/d design...
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Centaur,You couldn't be more right about Big Jim and when you do get your bow you'll see the wait was worth it.Craftsmanship second to none.
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Centaur or Shrew
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I have a Beeler Tracker 56" and it's my bow of a life time. I haven't been able to hunt much this year, but managed to kill a hog with my Beeler earlier in the season. It is smooth to draw, comfortable to grip, and the design works well for me. Dave is a great guy and an excellent person to deal with. You can't go wrong with a Beeler longbow.
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Another vote for the new 56" Cascade Brush Hawk Longbow.
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Love my Lost Creek Longbow!!!! Chad is a great guy to deal with. :thumbsup:
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56" pronghorn or 52" bearpaw by Neil Jacobson.
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(http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/n578/achilles112/IMGP0122.jpg)
Striker Xtreme 54" 46#@28". LH
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Pic II
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Originally posted by coaster500:
I second, third, fourth, ? the Thunderchild...
Pm sent
As Kip, +1!
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Add me to the Thunder Child list.
Also give a Zipper Zipstick a look.
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I would imagine that you are going to get a plethora of answers to this question. I have shot a bunch of the ones listed and I have to say that JK Traditions Kanati is sweet!!! I have a 51@28 and it is a rocket launcher!!!
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shortest I have is 58" and that bow is sweet. I do want to try a 56" thunder child and kanati bad though. I can see a 56" bigjim thunderchild two piece in my future. 55#@ 26"
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noticed you were looking at teh beeler tracker. I had one for a little bit. Loved the grip, smooth draw and really was a great shooter. But it wasnt the fastest bow out there.
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For the money and the service you get, a guy just can't beat a Lost Creek Bow PERIOD...You really owe it to yourself to talk to Chad before you decide to buy a bow.
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If I made a short Bow I'd call it "the Oxymoron"
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a Short longbow
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I would give a look at the brushbow ,excellent hybrid short longbow made by mark horne of horne's archery .
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I bought one last year right after I started this post,(don't know how it back up again) a JK Traditions Kanati and loved it, took my first traditional deer with it. This spring it was stolen out of my garage and I miss her. Good thing I have a backup until I save enouogh to get another. Thanks for all the responses.
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thunderchild all the way :wavey:
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Sorry to hear about your Kanati. I can see how you miss her badly. I would miss mine badly too if she were missing.
You made a good choice in buying a Kanati. Keep your eyes peeled and you just might be able to find another one in the classifieds.
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Thunderstick Mag.
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I bought a cascade brush hawk this winter. It's a very good shooting bow with no handshock. I'm very pleased with it. I shot one at Denton Hill a couple of years ago and really liked it. Finally ordered one in Sep. and got it right before Christmas.
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Check out a Bigfoot Yeti, it is a sweet little bow.
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I'd have to agree with the Thunderchild
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