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Title: Camo and trad bows?
Post by: wingnut on January 26, 2011, 12:28:00 PM
Over the past couple of years we have dipped a couple of bows in camo patterns and found them not very popular with most people.  I discussed this with a couple of other bowyers and they have had the same experience.

So if camo is not popular what dip patterns look good to you?

Mike
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Post by: Manitoba Stickflinger on January 26, 2011, 12:30:00 PM
Plaid?
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Post by: Molson on January 26, 2011, 12:34:00 PM
I don't like the "manufactured" look of any of the commercial patterns on a bow. I love the look of natural or dyed camo lams or, for the ultimate in function, just good ol' flat green and brown paint!
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Post by: Tommy D on January 26, 2011, 12:34:00 PM
I don't care for any dip pattern, or black glass for that matter.

I like clear glass so I can see the wood.

Although plaid might look ok.     :biglaugh:
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Post by: RM81 on January 26, 2011, 12:34:00 PM
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Originally posted by Manitoba Stickflinger:
Plaid?
:biglaugh:

This may be a dumb question but what other dip patterns are there besides camo?  Maybe snakeskin?  I've always liked realtree hardwoods.  It matches pretty good in the Ohio woods during November.  I also like the predator stuff.
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Post by: Prairie Drifter on January 26, 2011, 12:36:00 PM
The wood grain patters look cool.
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Post by: Zmonster on January 26, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
I got my bowfishing rig done in predator, but I came REAL close to getting it done in gator skin pattern that BigJim offers. Would have definetly been different.
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Post by: wingnut on January 26, 2011, 12:39:00 PM
Here are the patterns that I have available.

 http://www.twnindustries.com/mobile_site/films.html

Mike
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Post by: cacciatore on January 26, 2011, 12:43:00 PM
Mike,we spend soooo much for fancy veneers,woods contrsting color expensive exotics that maybe it doesn't worth to cover them with some permanent camo.One of the reason most have so many bows is because they  want to see that beauty coming off they hard earned bows.Otherwise the metal riser would be more popular.
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Post by: GMMAT on January 26, 2011, 12:47:00 PM
I love my camo bow!

  (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/SBGobblers/Traditional/rosewood20dym20green20camo_81.jpg)
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Post by: RUSTY1 on January 26, 2011, 12:47:00 PM
If I were to dip a bow, it would be an "old school camo". Now if they had a film of the "Kuiu" camo pattern, I'd probably be all over that!! But not a "fancy" wood bow!!

Rusty
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Post by: buckeyebowhunter on January 26, 2011, 12:51:00 PM
Im with GMMAT i really like the old school look of Brown Camo that Shafer bows offer. Not only is it camo but it also looks traditional if that makes sense..
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Post by: stik&string on January 26, 2011, 12:56:00 PM
I wouldn't mind the snakeskin in the link you posted.
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Post by: Kevin Lawler on January 26, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
I wouldn't hesitate to dip a bow that otherwise was not very attractive. No way would I do it to a nice looking bow. I'd love to have a great performing camo dipped bow. Before I have my Widow refinished I will consider dipping it in Predator. Function over form for me.
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Post by: tukudu on January 26, 2011, 01:00:00 PM
If you could get the same film as Jeff's tip I would have to look at that real hard as an alternative. I have had one tip like that before and that is solid old school look. tm
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Post by: Molson on January 26, 2011, 01:01:00 PM
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Originally posted by GMMAT:
I love my camo bow!

   (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/SBGobblers/Traditional/rosewood20dym20green20camo_81.jpg)
Yeah...  I like that too!!!
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Post by: wingnut on January 26, 2011, 01:16:00 PM
How about some of the other patterns . . . like stone?

Mike
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Post by: huntin_sparty on January 26, 2011, 01:29:00 PM
Like others have mentioned why cover a pretty wood bow with dip.  I would feel better doing it to a metal riser or beater bow.  I dont have a problem with the camo, but I bet the wood grain would sell better for the trad group.
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Post by: JOEBO on January 26, 2011, 01:35:00 PM
Film dipping a bow in my opinion, looks like someone is trying to hide something.
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Post by: BigJim on January 26, 2011, 01:44:00 PM
We have a pattern that is of the older style. It looks quite good on trad bows too.

Bigjim
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Post by: Swamp Yankee on January 26, 2011, 01:53:00 PM
Of the dips available, Preditor Fall Grey looks the best to me.  In all honesty though, I prefer "as is"; be it clear glass over wood, colored glass or even black metal risers.  Camo only looks good to me on a compound bow; maybe it helps to hide the hidiously "ugly" inherent to "those" bows ;-)
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Post by: Stumpkiller on January 26, 2011, 01:55:00 PM
Can you dip just the limbs of a one-piece?  Be a shame to cover up the wood of the riser section.  I'd be most apt to just have a neutral gray with no pattern; even better a gradual shading from one edge to the other (like  a sapling).  The limb is only 2" wide or less and tapering.  How camo does it need to be?  Too much detail and from a short distance it just looks dark, anyway.

Any kind of wood grain will just have a Formica look.  I worked in cabinet shops and at a furniture manufacturer for 10 years - imitation wood looks like imitation wood.  It has no depth or grain "movement" in the light.  

On a used bow my first thought is "what flaw is he hiding"
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Post by: hardwaymike on January 26, 2011, 01:58:00 PM
Hey wingnut can you dip arrows? There is some of your camos that would make a plain poc arrow look really cool. jmho
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Post by: wixwood on January 26, 2011, 01:59:00 PM
I love the look of the wood!! To me the ultimate would be an effective non glare finish that still shows the beauty of the wood. I use limb covers during elk season but got busted this year on the reflection from the gap between the riser and covers........thats MY story.
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Post by: mooseman76 on January 26, 2011, 02:10:00 PM
I like wood as well, but there are two dips that I'd like.  One is takedown bow limbs taped on the wedges and tips so I could get the limbs to look like those Schafer limbs above, but still have the wood riser, wedges and tip overlays.  

The other one I'd like to see is solid black.  It probably wouldn't be of much use in a new bow that you could have made with a phenolic riser and black glass limbs.  But an existing bow or a used bow purchased it is a nice option to have the bow dipped black rather than spray painting it.  Just my $.02...Mike
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Post by: Oliverstacy on January 26, 2011, 02:33:00 PM
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Originally posted by wingnut:
How about some of the other patterns . . . like stone?

Mike
Mike,

I liked the WTP-210 and WTP-211 in the stone line.

I also like several of the Mothwing patterns...if you could find ASAT (I've only found one company that had it) it might do well.

But as someone on here said...it might appear to be a cover-up of some sort (even if it was purely cosmetic).

Josh
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Post by: kawika b on January 26, 2011, 02:35:00 PM
ASAT
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Post by: hvyhitter on January 26, 2011, 02:49:00 PM
I looked into dipping a set of banged up limbs and liked the Nat Gear or some of the fuzzier/neutral patterns better. Sold the limbs first. I like limbskins myself, ON,OFF...ON,OFF....ON,OFF.....
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Post by: RUSTY1 on January 26, 2011, 02:50:00 PM
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Originally posted by BigJim:
We have a pattern that is of the older style. It looks quite good on trad bows too.

Bigjim
Jim, You have a pic of that?
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Post by: RUSTY1 on January 26, 2011, 02:52:00 PM
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Originally posted by Stumpkiller:
Can you dip just the limbs of a one-piece?  Be a shame to cover up the wood of the riser section.  I'd be most apt to just have a neutral gray with no pattern; even better a gradual shading from one edge to the other (like  a sapling).  The limb is only 2" wide or less and tapering.  How camo does it need to be?  Too much detail and from a short distance it just looks dark, anyway.

Any kind of wood grain will just have a Formica look.  I worked in cabinet shops and at a furniture manufacturer for 10 years - imitation wood looks like imitation wood.  It has no depth or grain "movement" in the light.  

On a used bow my first thought is "what flaw is he hiding"
I'm pretty sure you can mask off where you do not want the film to be.
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Post by: bofish-IL on January 26, 2011, 03:05:00 PM
I would like to see some fish scale designs. Carp - Leopard shark - Tiger shark - Gator Gar
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Post by: Orion on January 26, 2011, 03:56:00 PM
There's no doubt that some camo dip patterns can just about make a bow invisible in the woods, but put me in the category of ambivalence toward dips, regardless of the pattern. They look nice and maybe even add protection, but they're not something I would do with my bows. I prefer black or brown glass, or clear glass over figured veneers, and sometimes snake skins. Whatever floats your boat.   :goldtooth:
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Post by: highPlains on January 26, 2011, 04:00:00 PM
This is my favorite for coyote hunting. Haven't had one come in close enough...yet! That's a 52" Wing Thunderbird with sage brushy looking camo dip.

If I set it down in the sage I would lose it, it looks good.

   (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v54/tlclum/camobow.jpg)
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Post by: highPlains on January 26, 2011, 04:01:00 PM
Double post I don't know how to delete...
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Post by: wingnut on January 26, 2011, 04:15:00 PM
Mostly I'm looking at it for the current ILF black limbs.  Something to dress them up a bit.

I do like those marble patterns at the end of the Camo section.

Mike
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Post by: Covey on January 26, 2011, 08:10:00 PM
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Originally posted by GMMAT:
I love my camo bow!

   (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m314/SBGobblers/Traditional/rosewood20dym20green20camo_81.jpg)
I have one just like it ( my riser is walnut color ) and I love the camo limbs. Dave puts some kind of screen under the glass, so it's not exactly like dipping. I have seen some cool looking dipped bows though! Jason
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Post by: The Whittler on January 26, 2011, 08:43:00 PM
Scenery would be cool. You could have trees, sky, mountains, it could be endless.
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Post by: kenn1320 on January 26, 2011, 08:47:00 PM
Mike, what would the cost be approximately for a set of medium ilf limbs? I might be interested if the price is right, but If Im ordering limbs from you, I want to see the wood. Of course in person I might think differently. Hope there are some at the zoo.
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Post by: limbow on January 26, 2011, 09:08:00 PM
Duplicate this and you may have a winner  :)

 (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s271/Limbow/DSC_0690.jpg)

My longbow
 (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s271/Limbow/IMG_1684.jpg)

 (http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s271/Limbow/DSC06871.jpg)
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Post by: LimBender on January 26, 2011, 09:29:00 PM
Limbow, those pics changed my mind about camo limbs!
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Post by: gregg dudley on January 26, 2011, 09:40:00 PM
You either like the look or you don't.  Personally, I have never understood why anyone dipped a bow at all.  I love the look of a new bow with good wood. As for beaters...well that is what spray paint is for.
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Post by: BobCo 1965 on January 27, 2011, 12:10:00 PM
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Originally posted by gregg dudley:
You either like the look or you don't.  Personally, I have never understood why anyone dipped a bow at all.  I love the look of a new bow with good wood.
Me too, only problem is not all bows are new and not all have wood grains. Personally, I do not care for the looks of laminated wood risers either.
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Post by: LoweBow on January 27, 2011, 12:12:00 PM
I've been debating on a patern other than camo to dip a bow.  I have a Widow that was "Factory" dipped from them when new. It's a 60" MA IV "Mossy Oak"....that is in the Brake Up pattern.  I LOVE this bow.  My favorite hunting bow.

I also have a cross cut "camo" woodgrain Belcher.
If I order a new bow....I'll get these lams again...what a great look.

I won a $100 gift certificate to a film dip company about 6 months ago and have been itching to use it, but can'm make myself.  I believe I'll end up taking one of my bowfishing rigs and dip it to one of the water/bubble pattern or maybe a skull pattern.  Haven't decided yet.

  (http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af314/LoweBow/Poppers/DSCF1476.jpg?t=1296148018)
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Post by: LoweBow on January 27, 2011, 12:16:00 PM
I know Widow and Predator have dipped bows for years.  It was my understanding the some of the bows that either their finish or woodgrain, etc...didn't pass quality so they would opt to dip and sell them.
Just what I was told.
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Post by: owlbait on January 27, 2011, 12:31:00 PM
Perfect way to save all that labor when you discover streaks in your glass that are only cosmetic. Or if your bow needs refinishing. I have had two bows dipped and love the looks and function. I don't have to worry about the finish anymore, the bows have a new look and the finish is protected. I had my older Zipper dippped in the Carbon-film pattern and use it for bowfishing. I have an older recurve that needed some cosmetic work so had it dipped with the "Ultimate" camo pattern. Love them both. The rest of my bows have wood that I love, I may at some time refinish them or dip, depending on the cost at that time.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Hermon on January 27, 2011, 12:35:00 PM
Question for Olwbait...does your v key not work?
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Post by: Burnsie on January 27, 2011, 12:39:00 PM
I like the carbon fiber look for certain applications.  I would never permanently cover up wood grain that was nice looking and in good shape.  I had one bow that I picked up used dipped because the wood was really plain jane and the limb glass had some fogging in it.  I like it better with the camo now.
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Post by: owlbait on January 27, 2011, 02:06:00 PM
Apparently not! Or only intermittently.
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Post by: sleepyhollow on January 27, 2011, 04:47:00 PM
Natural gear or ultimate camo would be my choice if I was going to have a bow dipped.
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Post by: Gatekeeper on January 27, 2011, 08:54:00 PM
Be unique go with Morning Wood.   :goldtooth:
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Post by: Jeffrey Coria on January 31, 2011, 02:25:00 PM
The reaper wood limbs with a reaper black riser!
I wan't to dip my dorado in this pattern
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Post by: Karebru on January 31, 2011, 04:49:00 PM
I like the Camo Cross-Cut Actionwood Veneer on my Kanati so much that I ordered another one.
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Post by: Owlgrowler on January 31, 2011, 04:59:00 PM
Jim Crumley's Trebark has traditional look
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Post by: rdoggsilva on January 31, 2011, 05:42:00 PM
I have a old Astro II take down. It is 58" with a black metal riser and green limbs. Ugly bow but a great shooter. Been thinking about having it dipped. Really like that sage pattern on HighPlanes bow.
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Post by: Bowwild on January 31, 2011, 06:09:00 PM
I'm itching to have a bow dipped in Predator, spring or fall/brown, I don't know.  Problem is I don't have a bow at this time I'm willing to cover up except one that is already dipped in "Lost" camo.

If I ever find the used LH Chastain I'm looking for it is my Dipping candidate!

I think these dipped bows look really nice!  I especially like the Bear A and B Mags dipped.