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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: jonsimoneau on February 16, 2011, 10:53:00 AM
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Hey guys, I need a new turkey blind. I know both ot these are great blinds, but which one do you guys like better? Also, I've never seen a hidden hunter in person, what is the material of the blind? Is is similar to the double bull?
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emailed you
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I dont think that you can go wrong with the Double Bull.
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I checked out the hidden hunter blinds on their video, and I think it is a good blind. But there are more features in the double bull, especially if you look for a used "Made in the USA" one.
Although I can understand that the guys sold out to Primos,I hate their new camo and the now "Made in China" approach.At least I could not find a "Made in the USA" statement anywhere.
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Hidden Hunter blinds work great and are made in Michigan, USA! Mine is the DAT camo and turkeys totally ignore it. I set up right out in the open field and had one drum about a foot from the back of my blind! Believe me, that is LOUD!
They are a little on the tight side for more than one guy, but there is plenty of room for me and plenty of height for my bows. The only thing I wish they would do differently is include the shoot-through screens with the blind rather than selling them separately.
I'm kind of stubborn on this point, but I won't buy a Chinese blind, no matter how good it may be. If you don't mind supporting the Chinese takeover of our country, that is up to you I guess. I'll stick with American made, thank you.
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The Hidden Hunter blind is made with pride in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, U. S. A. made by hunters for hunters. It was designed to withstand the heavy snow loads of the North Country. Dementions are 6X6' with six zippered windows. It had 6 sides supported by 7 steel rods which are attached both top and bottom giving the blind great strength. It sets up in seconds and it can be picked up and moved or staked down by 6 cords. The material is called Tuff-Tech, which is like a rip-stop nylon but without the shine of nylon. Patterns available are DAT (digital all terrain) with a color combination of light gray, dark gray, and beige. The "Woodland Camo" (digital woodland terrain) dark green,light green, beige, brown and black.
http://www.shrewbows.com/hiddenhunterblinds/index.html
(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/woodland1.JPG)
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Not my thread but my thanks for the info anyway - been wanting to pick up a good blind for the fall.
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These two are good blinds no doubt and there are many other great blinds on the market today at great prices, to consider.
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I just watched the video on the HH and man does that look easy to set up, I like the vertical windows too!!
Might have one sent to the lower peninsula before this fall!
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I don't see the height, can you shoot a 66" bow ?
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I just received my Hidden Hunter from Ron. I really like it and it's just as easy to set up as it looks in the video. I got the 6x6 model.
I also had not seen one in person but based on my experience with a Shrew bow I couldn't see Ron selling a marginal product.
I can't fairly compare it to a Double Bull for longevity. I've hunted in a DB one time and my HH has more bow room.
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Watched the video 6 ft wide and 6 ft tall.
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In the video, the man setting up the blind is 6'5" tall and the blind he sets up is the 5X5 gun hunting blind. Later when he's drawing his bow in the blind he's in a 6X6 bow hunting blind.
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John,
I went through looking at a LOT of blinds last year before I bought one. Shoot me an email; I have a better option than either of the two you mentioned.
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I have no experience with the HH blinds, but I love my DB matrix recurve model!
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Never used the hidden hunter but love my double bull dark horse blind. Ive used several others out there and I have to say the double bull blinds are my favorite hands down.
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I used DB's for years and last purchased 2 HH's. The only downfall in my opinion is there is some wind flap with the HH vs none in the DB.
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I used DB's for years and last purchased 2 HH's. The only downfall in my opinion is there is some wind flap with the HH vs none in the DB.
LBM, I've never had a problem with wind flap with my HH blinds. Are you tying them down tight enough? The 5 tie down cords are attached at the top of the hub and run down midway through loops on the side of the blind. When you snug them down it will actually squat the blind down. I've had mine left out in some pretty bad wind storms with no problems except maybe having to re-snug the cords near the stake.
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I've had two doubles bulls and don't think there a better blind on the market personally.
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Buy American and vote for Donald Trump in 2012! :D
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I plan on getting a 6x6 HH blind here shortly. Gotta love a Michigan made product and it's price right!
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I have a DB Matrix and a HH 6x6 blind. The DB has a little more room inside if you will be hunting with someone else and it folds up a little more compact for carrying. My matrix model is a little short for anyone shooting a longer bow......but I shoot a Shrew, so it isn't a problem. The DB won't hold up to the wind and snow like my hidden hunter.
The HH is taller, which is a plus if you shoot a longer bow and it's nice to be able to stand and stretch during those long sits. The HH will hold up to just about any wind/snow/rain that you can put at it. It's very comfortable and roomy for one hunter, but it does get a little tight with two people. The fabric is wind proof and has a good solid black backing on the inside. It is nice and warm inside on windy days. Personally I prefer the HH blind over the DB in most situations.
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Just for clarification: my 6x6 HH is the digital woodland camo. The inside is not black but a brown that blends well with my outfitter camo clothes.
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I can say this about the HH blind...WOW! I just purchased mine last year and used it in the late season archery here in Indiana and during one sitting was able to kill three squirrels (Almost walked into the blind with me they were so close), and a small doe at less than 5 yards. I thought she was gonna come in the door. Needless to say (for me at least), the HH has proven to be a very productive blind. I too purchased for the MADE IN THE USA, and also have found the quality to be outstanding. Good luck in your decision.
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I bought a Double Bull Matrix about 8 years ago. I love everything about it except when I received it I was really disappointed to find out that it was made overseas. I have shot deer from the blind but it's main use nowadays is for my 14 year old daughter to sit in and watch the deer while Dad is close by hunting in the stand.
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In really cold weather in late December I put a little gas heater in my Hidden Hunter blind and it keeps me snug and warm. :campfire:
(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/MLH_086.jpg)
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Well! I was just talking about the Double Bull to somebody, this thread has me looking to Michigan now.
Good thread----this forum never ceases to amaze me.
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In the HH video, they show the closure leaving a vertical crack. My questions are, does that crack get covered with some type of an internal flap to block the light from coming in and also, is the black backing on the inside only available with a certain camo pattern and lastly, how does the shoot-thru screens attach?
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creekwood, The blind does have an internal flap that closes with velco to block off any light. I don't know about the option for the liner on the inside mine is black and the others that I have seen where also black.
The window screens attach with velco from the inside.
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Originally posted by Ron LaClair:
In really cold weather in late December I put a little gas heater in my Hidden Hunter blind and it keeps me snug and warm. :campfire:
Ron,
I was thinking about trying this, but I wondered about scent the heater might give off. Do you use propane? What kind of heater do you have? Does it make any noise? I assume it is some type of catalytic heater so no noise, correct?
Also, I noticed in your last picture you didn't have the blind brushed in, just snowed on. I've had deer in range during turkey season with my blind set up in an open field...you can't get much less brush than that. Have you had the same experience with deer during deer season?
Thanks,
Russ
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Kevin, thanks for that information.
John
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Ron, I was thinking about trying this, but I wondered about scent the heater might give off. Do you use propane? What kind of heater do you have? Does it make any noise? I assume it is some type of catalytic heater so no noise, correct?
Also, I noticed in your last picture you didn't have the blind brushed in, just snowed on. I've had deer in range during turkey season with my blind set up in an open field...you can't get much less brush than that. Have you had the same experience with deer during deer season?
Russ, I use the Mr Buddy heater, the small one. If I'm not going to be using it a lot I use the 1# tank that screws into the heater. For extended use I set a 25# tank outside the blind attached to a gas hose adapter. I haven't had an issue with odor from the heater but when it's turned up on high, it has a hissing sound so I keep it turned down to low or medium and that works best.
As for brushing in, I usually try to do that most of the time. For some reason when I set the blind in poplar slashings it doesn't seem to alarm the deer. Other times I'll brush in the blind a little. The loops on the side are handy for inserting limbs.
This is the old woodland camo, the new woodland has a digital pattern
(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Hidden%20hunter%202.JPG)
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Hey Ron
I havent never seen a HH blind my question is all the guys on here talk like the DB has more room to hunt 2 people or are they about the same size
Thanks Jamie
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I have never used a DB so I don't know how they compare to the HH. People say the DB is wider but not as tall as the HH. I know I've sat in my HH with 2 people with no problem.
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I have hunted out of both.The double bull is wider, so as previous posters have said, more room for 2. But the hidden hunter works a lot better with my 62 inch recurve. Here are 2 pictures of my digigtal HH. one in color, one in black and white.
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/CKRADA/hiddenhuntercolorblind.jpg)
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn301/CKRADA/hiddenhunterblackandwhiteblind.jpg)
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Hidden Hunter Woodland camo
(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/woodland1.JPG)
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A HH Nat Gear Blind (http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Cindy_blind.jpg)
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(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/Hidden%20Hunter%203.JPG)
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Wow, what would the Cree Nation do with this technology back in the day? :campfire:
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I have to agree that the HH is a little tight for two people, but I also agree it is easy to shoot from.
Thanks for the information, Ron. If I get into the late season again next year, I'm going to have a buddy (heater) with me! I haven't hunted deer from a blind before because I like the vision of being in a tree stand, but I was too picky this year and ended up with tag soup. If I get into the late season without filling a tag next fall, I'll be giving the HH a try for sure.
Double Bull might be a great blind, but one of my cousins had to go through three of them to get one that stayed together (Chinese model). Also, I refuse to buy Chinese stuff if at all possible. I am just one individual, but I'm going to do my part in supporting American manufacturers even if I end up being the last one to do so.
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Russ, I may need to check out your blind too the next time you visit, this thread makes me think I need one!
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Okay, Jason. I really do intend to come over, but I keep getting sidetracked. :banghead:
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HH for me :thumbsup:
Eric
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Ron
do you use shoot thru screens on your windows when deer hunting? do you think the black hole without screens has alarming effect to deer?
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Ron do you use shoot thru screens on your windows when deer hunting? do you think the black hole without screens has alarming effect to deer?
Yes I have shot through the screens but I prefer my shooting window to be open because the camo pattern of the screen is somewhat distracting for an instinctive shooter trying to concentrate on a spot on the animal. I wouldn't say that the hole is alarming but it may sometimes make the deer suspicious. I just don't shoot at em when they're looking at the hole... :rolleyes:
I do sometimes use the screens over a couple of the windows on the sides of the blind so I can see whats going on around me.
Looking through the horizontal windows in late December.The snow is on the window flaps that are not let down all the way.
(http://www.shrewbows.com/rons_linkpics/MLH_087.jpg)
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Nice blind. Hey Ron do you have a pic of the plind packed up and ready to carry? Ive checked the web site and dont see one. Dose it have a carry bag or shoulder straps of some kind?
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There's a link to click on to see a demonstration of setup and take down. The first blind shown is the 5X5 gun blind, not the 6X6 bow blind.
http://www.shrewbows.com/hiddenhunterblinds/index.html
http://www.hiddenhunterblinds.com/hiddenhunter.html
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Thank you Ron, i saw those videos, i don't know how i missed the way it was carried over the shoulder :banghead:
Thanks again
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RON CAN WE ORDER THE BLIND WITH ALL VERTICAL WINDOWS ???????
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If anyone's interested I just put my Double bull on the classifieds "Dark horse",I had it for sale there one time and thought I would use it in my woods that I was purchasing 40 acres. I don't hunt trick you very much and they say that they're the best for Turkey ,I've always hunted on the ground with a natural setting for deer .
This one's made me USA ,Purchased it directly from Brooks, I only live about 15 minutes from his shop.
IT SOLD
Carl
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RON CAN WE ORDER THE BLIND WITH ALL VERTICAL WINDOWS ???????
Yes you can, it would be a special order with an additional cost. How much more I'm not sure but I can find out.
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I'd like to know also Ron,About the whole vertical windows,
Thanks
Carl
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Reviving an old thread to gather some current opinions...
I am looking hard at the Hidden Hunter and the Double Bull Double Wide and would like to hear reports and opinions from current users. One thing that concerns me about the Double Bull is reports of less than stellar quality. Anyone have experience to share regarding this?
Also, with the HH blind, I would assume it stakes down?
Preferences from those who have used both?
Thanks.
Kevin
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I just bought Primos Club XXL. It is terrific. I've had several varieties including Double Bull Dark Horse and Americstep.
An important thing about the Club XXL is that center height is 78".
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I had one of the double bull blinds right after they came out and used it for years. Very well made. Then they came out with the matrix models and I ordered one of them
With the new overseas matrix the material was no where near as thick as the old double bull was. The first time I set the matrix up from the box I didn't notice some of the fiberglass poles were not inside the web sleeves in the corner. So when I pushed on the hub one pole ripped a foot long hole in the fabric.
After many months it was replaced finally. When I took the replacement out of the box 2 of the black covers to cover up the slotted windows were hanging from one stitch in the corner. You could see the hole pattern where a needle had went through the material But apparently someone forgot to use thread with the machine. After a couple years the cheap webbing used in the corners for the fiberglass poles sleeve begun to wear out letting the pole come through the webbing. So I bought a sewing awe and replaced some of the webbing.
I don't know how well the news ones are made but the ones from overseas were not anywhere near the quality of the older ones.
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I have hunted out of a bunch of blinds over the years. I currently own 4 Double Bull Blinds,, two original Matrix, on Dark Horse and one T2. They set up easily and do not make noise in a wind. Plus the versatility of the window on the is great. I cN'T SPEAK TO THE HH Blinds.
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Originally posted by tracker12:
Plus the versatility of the window on the is great. I cN'T SPEAK TO THE HH Blinds.
Versatility of the window on which one...all of them, or is it one particular model?
Thanks.
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I got a double bull dark horse, you can adjust the front to help with bow lengths.
It got matrix open front and port holes in the rear.
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Thanks, Keb.
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If I was looking for one I would buy the older matrix if you can find one and put the light weight carbon hub system in it.
The older matrix is lighter than what primos is using, quite a bit lighter. You could have a weight saving of 8lbs.
You can buy the light weight hubs from primos for 50 dollars, the hubs alone shed 5 lbs.
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Good info...
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I have killed several turkeys from the Hidden Hunter since this thread started. I also have a Double Bull but prefer the HH.
(http://i1086.photobucket.com/albums/j456/jalariso/turkey5-6-13_2.jpg) (http://s1086.photobucket.com/user/jalariso/media/turkey5-6-13_2.jpg.html)
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Anybody have some experience with the ASAT blind?
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I got one of the HH blinds from Ron a few years back. It is a great blind. On cold blustery fall days it is the best way to hunt. Plenty of room to use a trad bow inside a HH blind too. It is also a great turkey blind. They act like they don't even see it.
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I've never tried a hidden hunter but always had good luck with the double bull I had. I am now using a store brand (ameristep) but the double bull was much better quality.
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i have hunted out of both. I think the hidden hunter is the way to go. the HH is easier to set up and because of its shape it sheds snow and rain better than the Matrix. I an not fond of the rods on the floor but to me that is a minor thing. My favorite blind for the money if you wait for them to go on sale is the BIG MIKE. it is huge for around $125 on sale. Snow will crush it though.
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Originally posted by Keb:
If I was looking for one I would buy the older matrix if you can find one and put the light weight carbon hub system in it.
The older matrix is lighter than what primos is using, quite a bit lighter. You could have a weight saving of 8lbs.
You can buy the light weight hubs from primos for 50 dollars, the hubs alone shed 5 lbs.
I have two of the older matrix blinds. They did not all come with the light weight rods. I have one of each and the leight weight rods are great but it is very difficult to find one. The weight savings is in the rods not the hubs. They may be 1# for the five but I doubt much more than that. Problem is that the light weight rods take a diffent hub. You can mix and match. Trying to find a used blind then buying hubs and rods doesn't really seem worth it to me. There are orginbal USA made DB's out there. tere was aguy taht was selling one on the big Archery forum just a couple weeks ago for a very reasonable price. Primos warranty is also very good. I have broken several rods over the years and they will shipo them out for shipping cost only.
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how about a pick of the inside flooring of the HH???
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I just saw that this old thread has been brought back up. I'm up to the farm right now hunting the late season. It was 2 degrees this morning but I was as snug as a bug in a rug in my 6X6 Hidden Hunter blind with my Lil' Buddy heater giving out plenty of heat connected to a 20# tank setting outside the blind. There was a time when I was younger when the cold didn't bother me but those days are past.. :D
Since this thread was started the HH blinds now have new material and new patterns. Predator green and Predator gray are both great camo patterns. The new blinds also have steel rods. Another addition is the 7 sided 5.5 X 5.5 blind with 7 windows that will accommodate up to a 56" bow
www.shrewbows.com (http://www.shrewbows.com)
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Originally posted by Dirtybird:
how about a pick of the inside flooring of the HH???
I would like to see a picture of the HH flooring, too. The comment made by Jim regarding not being fond of the “rods on the floor” of the HH threw me.
Thanks to all so far for their input. It is most helpful.
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Originally posted by Jim Rocole:
My favorite blind for the money if you wait for them to go on sale is the BIG MIKE. it is huge for around $125 on sale. Snow will crush it though.
Which Big Mike blind do you prefer?
Thanks.
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Don't overlook a Gorilla blind Jon. I used to have a DB and this blind is fantastic.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/wit79.jpg)
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Good stuff guys. This is an older thread. I bought a double bull and I like it. But it is clear there are a lot of other options out there these days! Honestly I only use the blind for turkeys. When it comes to deer I use a ghillie suit designed by Marc Anthony. It's all in good fun!
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Owned them both.
Double Bull = JUNK
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I have a Matrix 360 by DB, it is a great blind but it likes to eat the fiberglass rods. I'm not talking breaking them because I am cautious when setting up, it just likes to chew the ends up on the rods. I just keep fixing them, The HH looks like a good system although I have never seen one in person.
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My Dark Horse is hardly used. It is well made but not tall enough. I try to shoot with a vertical recurve (58-62"). Even though I'm only 5'6" I can't do this in anything that is shorter than 80" standing up. Sitting I can shoot vertical in a 70" tall blind.
I actually measured these heights at home.
Here are some pictures of my practice range with new Club XXL. I just received this blind a few weeks ago. I won't use it until spring turkey season. Next fall, when the 8-eyed SPIDERS are gone, I'd like to set this up for deer hunting amongst some cedars.
Without Screen:
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/IMG_2236_zpsee6ecb87.jpg) (http://s956.photobucket.com/user/bowwild/media/IMG_2236_zpsee6ecb87.jpg.html)
With Screen:
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/IMG_2238_zps2a5121ad.jpg) (http://s956.photobucket.com/user/bowwild/media/IMG_2238_zps2a5121ad.jpg.html)
View Down Range:
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/IMG_2010_zpsc64adaa1.jpg) (http://s956.photobucket.com/user/bowwild/media/IMG_2010_zpsc64adaa1.jpg.html)
Picture of 3 Shots Through Screen (Field Points):
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/IMG_1986_zpsb9d5c167.jpg) (http://s956.photobucket.com/user/bowwild/media/IMG_1986_zpsb9d5c167.jpg.html)
You can see my "inspiration" for an upcoming hunt October, 2014 on the wall behind my blind.
I'm going to try to post a video with sound of 3 shots from the blind if I can figure out how to use Photobucket for this. Pretty cool to hear the shot, see an arrow flash, see my ungloved hand move a bit (without the sreen), and hear the Glendale buck "rock" when it is hit.
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Kevin
I have the Barronet Grounder 350 it is 80" high on the interior. Big Enough for three people. I will get a pic of the floor of the HH today as well. The HH in Predator Gray is excellent here in the northwoods. I had an old DB (USA made) that I liked but a bear on my land hates blinds and he shredded it. I bought another that was made in China and it was definitely not the same quality. For the money, I was disappointed. The Barronett for the money is a great deal but overall the HH is much better quality and the camo options are far superior in my opinion.
Jim
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Originally posted by Kevin Hansen:
Originally posted by Jim Rocole:
My favorite blind for the money if you wait for them to go on sale is the BIG MIKE. it is huge for around $125 on sale. Snow will crush it though.
Which Big Mike blind do you prefer?
Thanks. [/b]
I like the Big Mike snake eyes version standard size that I have. Big enough for me to bow hunt with one of the kids along. The XL will give you a little more room, but it is not a huge jump. I think all the new ones have the snake eye window, but some of the old stock ones do not so watch out for that. I got one this spring and used it all year. It worked out great for me. I sat in it for something to do in bow season on days with very high winds and it was solid and quiet. I just pulled mine down two days ago. It got hit with the ice storm we had mid state. Our farm is right in part of the worst hit area. On top of all the snow and ice it had on it, it also got hit with a small tree and a branch from high up in a big tree. Both made direct hits on it. I did have a 2x2 post in it for extra support or it would have been damaged more than it was. Total damage was one small rip in the roof from a broken branch end that went through it and one cracked rod.
I plan to take a look at the HH blinds, but will have no problem getting another big mike.
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I'll be adding a Hidden Hunter to my arsenal. I've got two double bulls, however if I don't tie off the roof to a branch overhead, it caves in in the snow in late season and there's way too much noise involve with pushing that roof back up and relocking the hub when it's loaded with snow. :readit:
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I don't have a picture of the floor of the Hidden Hunter but I'll try to get one. The floor rods have never bothered me, they usually sink into the ground out of the way. In the past I've cut a carpet remnant in the proper size to fit on the floor to cover snow and keep my feet warmer.
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here are the pics requested of the HH
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s299/RocoleJ/DSC_0157_zps7b84ab7c.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/RocoleJ/media/DSC_0157_zps7b84ab7c.jpg.html)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s299/RocoleJ/DSC_0156_zps523b2867.jpg) (http://s155.photobucket.com/user/RocoleJ/media/DSC_0156_zps523b2867.jpg.html)
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Thanks Jim, The ground looks cold :scared: Try putting down a carpet cut to size, it'll make a big difference. :)
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Thanks, Jim for the interior pictures of the HH and the Big Mike info.
Thanks to all for their honest opinions.
Justin, you said you have owned both the DB and the HH...what do you think of the HH?
Thanks.
Kevin
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Had an XXL and in the wind it hummed all the time, not a good thing when you're antelope hunting.
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Not sure how long you can wait, but Primos is coming out with a new bigger 2 hub version of the DB. Same great material...strong, no flap, no shine, very rip resistant. Super easy to set up.
I think they go on sale in Feb. Lower price too.
Primos is well aware of the Chinese
manufacturing problems and are busy making changes. I wouldn't buy one presently, but be patient and the quality of old will return.
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Originally posted by beaunaro:
Not sure how long you can wait, but Primos is coming out with a new bigger 2 hub version of the DB. Same great material...strong, no flap, no shine, very rip resistant. Super easy to set up.
I think they go on sale in Feb. Lower price too.
Primos is well aware of the Chinese
manufacturing problems and are busy making changes. I wouldn't buy one presently, but be patient and the quality of old will return.
Thanks, Irv. Good to know.
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HH is FAR superior. This opinion has changed back and forth but now with 2 full seasons with both, I am convinced. I've shot turkeys out of both, but there is no way to move quickly and quietly with a DB for deer. NO WAY,
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That is why DB has now supplied every major sporting goods stores with FREE rods.
I just put my two DB blinds away. Took a wrestling match to get it done. Then in less than 10 seconds I had the HH blind put away. Quietly.
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You can set up a Hidden Hunter Blind in less than one minute. Theground rods are a non-issue. Lots of room as well.
The DB is a fine blind but the HH is just so quick and easy.
CTT
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When the fun-crazy original owners had them, I got a DB Recurve model (6'2" center height). Comfy with me at 6'2" and by same height buddy together in there and he went 340# then!
I'd had shoulder surgery and KNEW I couldn't put up a tree stand... I also could barely get that DB set up. I called Beemer and we talked... they admitted the hubs and fiber glass rods were 'stout' to push open and you had to orient everything to get it to go up and push HARD!
I managed to figure it out, but the amount of brushing in, then restricted to windows in front or be silhouetted inside, seemed silly... same work as making a ground blind I could shoot 360.
Since Primos took over, I read about rods falling out of hubs, being too short, and related problems and some recently claim they can't get response on warranty work from Primos---reportedly.
Good to read Primos may be addressing poor quality mfg, but that old DB is/was a pain to use, but considerably more roomy than what is reported here on more modern models!
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I just ordered another Hidden Hunter...picking this one up on my way to Shrew Haven this fall, I will leave it up there. The only blind I can move/draw/shoot a longbow in. Superb quality.
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Originally posted by Justin Falon:
HH is FAR superior. This opinion has changed back and forth but now with 2 full seasons with both, I am convinced. I've shot turkeys out of both, but there is no way to move quickly and quietly with a DB for deer. NO WAY,
I do it all the time and have for the last ten years. First thing do is make sur nothing os on the ground to make noise. should want to have to move around with those metal rods on the bottom. If t ws set up all the time a rug would be an option but I sure don't want to lug a rug around in the woods.
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Beaunaro, I just talked to Bubbba at Primos customer service, and he says the new blind you mentioned will be just like the old T2, with 2 hubs. It won't come in a Recurve model, so it will be too short for me.
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I sold my HH, found it cumbersome on long walks, and couldnt stand the metal rods inside on the ground. Mike