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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Margly on August 28, 2011, 07:15:00 AM
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Hi!
I`m thinking about skinning a set of longbowlimbs and wondering about what kind of snake have some yellow color pattern in the skin?
Something that would go great with an Osage riser?
Margly
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Just Google "yellow snakes" and you will find pictures of lots of them. Coral snake skins would be the most impressive, not only for the colors, but also because the snakes themselves are so deadly!
Allan
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Tiger snake. Not a chance in hell. But it'd look good, though.
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That's the Western Australian tiger snake, I meant; not the one from the eastern states.
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oh go to the bench and look at copperhead skins that bowyer's have put on Osage; it is one of the best skins I have seen on Osage.
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I agree with Kelly....Copperheads are second to none on Osage...Killer!
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Remember in a year or so that yellow Osage riser is going to be a burnt orange.. Copperhead looks very good on a Osage bow.
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There is a yellow rat snake that might fit what you're looking for. However, you need to check on the 'protected' status of many snakes nowadays.
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Put your skin on with Tite Bond 2 and you will have all the yellow color you can possibly stand showing through the skin.
I goofed up and put some nice timber rattlers on my wife's bow with it. Here is the result, I usually use Elmer's stainable wood glue which dries with a almost clear, neutral color.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/glendastimberrattler.jpg)
Here is a close-up, you can see the tite-bond showing through the skin. The skin had no yellow in it when I selected it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/bow%20making/titebondskin.jpg)
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bullsnake has yellow and brown in it.
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A corn snake has lots of yellow too.
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corn snakes dont have yellow they are red. Yellow rat snakes are yellow and black or brown stripes that run the length of the snakes. yellow rats are common and I think would be pretty cool!
L.R.
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Ok, that must be what i have been calling corn snakes. We have them all over around our yard.I have killed some rattlers once in a while in my yard that are very bright yellow,much more so than the average diamondback, but getting two the same color wouldnt be easy.I usually get several copperheads every year in my yard but not any this year.I got around 6 or 8 rattlers earlier,several diamondbacks, a few timbers and some ground rattlers and one cottonmouth.Ground rattlers dont have any yellow but if you can find two that are big enough they are really pretty.The tail ends of timber rattlers are nice too.Most of the diamond backs are so big they are not much good for bows.They will be over a foot wide when skinned out and even the diamonds are wider than a bow limb.
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corn snakes are the same thing as red rat snakes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corn_Snake
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/ReptilesAmphibians/Facts/FactSheets/Cornsnake.cfm
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You're right Jeff, but its yes and no. Technically they are the same, but in the herp world there are so many variations of corn snake now, many are not even close to the classic red rat, or wild normal corn.
Some wild corns are a grey phase, not a grey rat, but actually a grey corn. Tough to tell someone its technically a red rat snake.
So red rat in the real world kinda stands for a "normal" corn snake. Pretty amazing all the color variations, here is my favorite...the Okeetee phase caught in Florida. Going on my future Silvertip.
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/corn004.jpg)
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If you have more $$$ than brain cells go buy an albino python or boa.
:D
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I agree with the comments on yellow rat snakes. That would look great. I had a Morrison with Copperhead skins as well and it looked fantastic.
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Yellow rats usually have stripes that run along the body length, so the pattern is limited to vertical thin black stripes. Kinda plain. You may have seen pics of yellow rats with a standard rat pattern but they are very rare to find. Not impossible, but far from easy.Not trying to be a downer here, just telling it like it is.
Copperheads sure do look great with osage, I agree.
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Garter snakes have a lot of yellow... and are very common...
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I nearly stepped on a yellow phase timber rattler up above Hamburg, PA at Hawk Mt. many years ago...bunch of dumb boyscouts got sticks and pestered the snake amoung the rocks till it came out...got to look at it realy close 2x.
Ranger later told me it was a yella phase timber.
ME? I turn a pale color of "yellow" among any poisonus snake! :eek:
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Not to high jack this but,does the skin have to be streached that tight? Seems the scales would have been a little closer and the glue would not have showen through if not streched as tight.(a more natural lay I guess)Just asking because some day I want to try and skin a bow.
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You dont really strech it that tight when you dry one but it does shrink up tight as it drys. If it was too loose it would wrinkle up and would not be good for much.Snakes are easy to skin out and either dry them or tan them.Just tack it scale side down on a board and put 20 mule team borax on the flesh side.It will dry out very fast with the borax and it bug proofs it too.If your wanting it tanned you rub glycerin into the skin on both sides after it is dried. Best to just use a dried skin if your going to glue it on a bow.Of coarse you have to rub off the loose scales after its dried but that easy too. I like to spray it with helsman spar after its glued on the bow.Snake skins will look faded after they are dried but when you rub off the loose scales and varnish it a lot of the color will come back out. Yellow color in a snake skin is one of the colors you lose the most when the skin is dried though.If your looking to get that yellow you may want to try dying the back side of the skin with some yellow dye before you glue it on.
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Hi tradgangers!
Thanks for all good ideas and input :thumbsup:
I just bought this beautiful snake skin from a fellow tradganger (Yornoc) :)
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/RonnyMargly/68cf9dfe.jpg)
Asian mangrove snake
(http://i570.photobucket.com/albums/ss142/RonnyMargly/7284bae7.jpg)
This going to be a nice Firefly longbow with a Osage riser and these skins on the limbs :D
Margly
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That will look nice.
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(http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz254/Stuwx/1227012539t8AN1s.jpg)
i believe its just called a yellow boa constrictor, but i could be wrong.
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Awesome snake John. Only problem is you have to snag those guys(pythons and boas) when they are 36" and under because the hide gets so thick and tough. You can skive it a bit, but very tough to work with. To find two that died is a long wait, and even if you do, you have to pay to ship them frozen, so its a small fortune to back a bow. Getting two live ones is out of the ballpark.
Thats the issue with any exotic snake, they are usually so damn costly, they would be more than the bow. No one wants to give them away, even if dead. They want big$$$.
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Yornoc, thanks for the info on page one. Interesting animals for sure.
Margly, Cool snake you picked out! Send us finished pics.
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I think a black or grey rat snake would be pretty awesome (better looking than a corn snake imo-)
L.R.
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YORNOC...pm sent
Mac