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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: paoloi on November 13, 2011, 07:30:00 PM
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I really just started hunting last year, I am a late bloomer. In my first year I took three shots, one was stupid, and misses all three over their backs. In the past year I am back in school, we had our first baby, so I haven't had as much time this year. This morning I went out and it was quite windy. I was looking off to my right and when I looked back to my left coming in at 15 yards was a little four point. I was sitting and my bow was hanging and he is moving left to right in front of me. I manage to get my bow down and he stops about 5 yards in front of me a little to the right. He stands there for a bit and I slowly try to rise and he springs forward about 15 yards. I turn to my right as he starts rounding a tree, draw, and when he appears, let one fly. Right over his back, my M.O., now I am 0-4! It was a perfect line, just high.
I know, I didn't pick a spot. I am a fair shot, I definately have it in me. It just seems that when the oppertunity presents itself I rush things and forget my routine. When will I ever learn? I just want to get some meat in the freezer and this monkey off my back.
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im 0 for 2 so far
a treerat and a coon close but no weeeeooooh
first year for me
i consider myself a bow hunter now that i have missed. everybody tells me keep at it. it will happen. good luck
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Talk yourself through the shot next time. It may hold the excitement at bay long enough to get it done.
Good luck!
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I had the same problem this year except I was shooting low on every deer I shot at.My problem was I was afraid of a high hit and not enough penetration to get an exit wound with my low poundage bow and I wasn't focusing on a spot. My advice would be to practice from an elevated position. I did every day and it helped me out a bunch. I missed 6 I think before I connected this year. Practice is the key, I have to shoot everyday to keep my accuracy where it needs to be to shoot at live animals. Thats my .02 I hope it helps also try shooting at small game and just walking in the woods shooting at leaves or sticks on the ground. It is great practice and fun.
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Heck I went 0-6 in one weekend a couple of years ago. Not hard too do. First practice from the stand like your shooting from. Find your aim point. From a tree stand I need to look at the bottom hair of the belly to hit mid body.
And get some confidence in your shooting. Spend time shooting the shot your going to take until it's a slam dunk.
Mike
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First ones the toughest. I was 0-12 when I started 6 years ago. I've killed 14 with a longbow since then. Whenever I see a deer I mentally start telling myself to pick a spot over and over. That is the hardest part. Keep working on it. It will come. Good luck!
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Originally posted by paoloi:
I know, I didn't pick a spot. I am a fair shot, I definately have it in me. It just seems that when the oppertunity presents itself I rush things and forget my routine.
You answered yourself with this.
I too am guilty of it. It can be overcome by fixing what you wrote.
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Paolo,
I am in the same boat. I have 5 shots in. Still a miss just last Friday night on a small doe. I know that I need to get over the pounding heart and all the timing. It will happen, I just need to go thought it again.
Hang in there. Do it again. I think that only having them close and working through the shot is the only thing that can solve it.
Stay positive!
Martin
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Quit your whining, I haven't had 4 shots in the last 3 years! Be thankful that you have opportunities. Your success will come. Good luck.
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I don't shoot at moving deer
Pick a spot
Forget the past muffed shots
Don't ever feel that you HAVE to shoot. You don't.
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I'm right there with ya 0-4. Except mine is over a three year span. First year hunting with trad equipment, hunting on the ground I shot right infront of a doe. Grazed her had a touch of blood on one feather. All for that year. Last year I grazed a small buck back. Again just a touch of blood on one feather. Later I shot infont of another doe. Both were from stands. All for that year. This year last weekend. had a small buck come in and he curved around a tree. He was acting nervous and his lungs and heart were open so I took the shot and burried my snuffer half way in a maple. My up and down was great just shot about four inches to the right. Would have been a back lung or liver shot if the tree wouldn't have been there but...it was. Took twenty minutes to dig it out. Its possibly the most aggrivating thing I've ever experienced. I was so disgusted with myself after dwelling and replaying it over in head for thirty minutes straight I just came down and went home. Didn't feel like hunting anymore. Something that has helped my confidence hunting from a stand is I carry a arrow with a judo point on it in my quiver. Everytime Im about to leave I pick a leaf or something that stands out and I take a practice shot then come down get packed up and go get my arrow. Almost always I hit what I'm shooting at. It was funny the day after I missed the buck the other day I was hunting a field and before I came down I could see a piece of paper in the field. I shot at it and drilled it. Got down and stepped it off and I laughed cause I could hit a snack sized chip bag at 40 yards but couldn't hit a whole deer at 17.
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I've only seen one deer this season (so far) and it was a buck. With Texas inside antler spread 13" restrictions, it was illegal for me to shoot it.
At least you're getting shots.
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This is my first year with traditional bow and I am 0-2 so I hear ya. Both over the back, barely, right in line with where it should be. I have practiced a ton and am not afraid of taking deer but in both cases I did not pick the spot like I do in practice. The second, Saturday morning, was a big fat doe at 10 yards and I was trying not to have to stop her. Too hard at this point with traditional. Next time she'll be stopped first.
However, I'm not giving up. Just digging in harder and going to keep trying. Thankful for the two opportunities and all the deer that I have seen. Such a blessing!
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I have had that problwm in the past, as well as quick release issues. I overcame it by forcing myself to not release until i hheld exactly on my target for a full two seconds. Forces you to pick a spot. Good luck.
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Nerves are getting the better of you...
Just concentrate on that one spot on the deer.
Sometimes I feel my nerves building up and their have been times when I just need to look away from the approaching game and just compose myself.
Your doing all the right things to get that close to a whitetail!!!
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My.02 is Cyclic-River and Roger are giving good advice. When the animal approaches decide where you are going to make the shot. Not hurry up and shoot when a shot appears. Talking myself through the outcome keeps me calm and I don't have to shoot. Sometimes it just don't work out sometimes it does.
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Your probably shooting at the whole deer instead of picking a spot. I missed a few before I realized that I had to pick a single hair on the deer. Focus on that hair and the rest is relying on your practice skills and mechanics of shooting.
Ron
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i have had six shots this year. 4 misses and 2 kills. all misses were high. i missed the same doe 2 times. once at 10 yards and once closer. pick a spot! both kills were great shots.
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Your seeing deer and getting shots.....consider yourself lucky. Don't think about it, take the advise that's been given and you will do fine!
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Remember to bend at the waist when shooting down. This will keep your upper body in it's normal alignment. If you compensate for the downward shot by simply lowering the bow hand, you will shoot high.
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Pick the spot, more so a single hair. and FOCUS FOCUS FOCUS so hard it blurs everything around the spot you have picked....have the mindset that you are going to hit your spot, not the thought of hoping you don't miss !! Having confidence is the most important thing to keep those negative thoughts from racing through your head at the time of the shot, for that matter any task you try.
Froggy
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Broadhead manufacturers love me. Nuff said.
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Simple, you're not picking a spot and you need to aim low when shooting out of a treestand. I might also suggest that since you seem to be getting lots of opportunities, the next time a deer comes to your stand, just sit there and watch it for a while. Let your heart rate and excitement come up, then wait for it to subside. If the deer is still in a shootable position, pick a spot, aim at the lower part of the chest, then shoot it. The key being letting yourself calm down and making a good shot.
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"He stands there for a bit and I slowly try to rise and he springs forward about 15 yards."
You do not have to stand up, he would have been much closer and as someone stated practice elevated shots if possible :saywhat:
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More practice on foam deer targets. "Practice like you play". After you become confident on the foam deer there is nothing better for real life confidence than taking high percentage shots on does. When and if you ever get a shot on a big buck believe me the jitters will be more intense and the practice on the live targets will pay off.
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I lot of guys miss because they lift their head at time of shot to see the arrow hit the deer. If you can concentrate more on "the spot" thru the shot process, it should help.
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I'm 2 for 3-and the 2 werent very good shots but I just try to remember what I did and TRY not to do it again!!
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If you shoot from a tree stand you need to practice from a stand. Also helps to have someone on the ground to move target and retrieve arrows.
That is what buddies are for.
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Take a small piece of tape and write on it (PICK A SPOT) and put it on your bow so can alwasys read it.
doug77
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Maybe your thinking to much at the shot !!!
Just shoot !!! Sound strange but that can be a problem.
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aim small miss small
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Hey Paolo,might remember me. Lots goiong on and ddnt get down to geauga bow. I'm 1-2. Shot my first doe 11/10. When I missed the first one, I went into the basement and shot at 12 yards forever and broke down my shot. I then put a piece of athletic tape on the back on my bow with the initials "P.P.A.F." Pick a spot, Push, Anchor, Follow thru. It's right there in my face and I cannot miss it. It's funny how it works. Now when I see a deer I'm saying "pick a spot" over and over in my head. Hope you are well. Good luck.
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1. Never let any negative thoughts enter your mind prior to the actual shot. NEVER...ie..don't think about your prior misses or what if the animal looks up etc...
2. Tell yourself...it's just an animal...and I'm going to KILL IT.
3. Once you determine your going to take the shot or get the opportunity...NEVER take your eyes off the spot you want to hit.
Pre season practice from a tree stand will help also. Once you put a few deer on the ground, the experience and confidence level increases.
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I have shot 2 so far and both were hit kinda high.It is hard for me to try and shoot low and from a elevated stand you have to.Just keep practicing and it will come to you.
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I have not been fortunate enough to shoot at a deer from the stand with my longbow this year but I do always make a final shot before I get down. I had been shooting high also. After alot of thinking about it in the stand I realized that I wasn't bending enough at the waist. Rick Welch said it best in his video Accuracy Factory. Shooting from above is exactly the same as shooting on the ground as long as you have your arms and shoulders in line (Achieved by bending at the waist). Give it a shot. It has worked for me.
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0-2 this year with my longbow. You guys give me hope. LOL.
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If you are always missing from an elevated position, makes sure that you are bending at the waist. If the misses are just due to you rushing the shot, then in practice, make sure you have a defined shot sequence. Then when the times comes to make your kill shot, get as excited as you like, but be sure to stick with your practiced shot sequence. Easier to say than to do of course, but if you have no shot sequence at all, it become nearly impossible. At least that is my opinion. Keep at it and best of luck to you!
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Take this opportunity to go kill something small like a rabbit or squirrel.