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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: perry f. on December 13, 2011, 12:46:00 PM
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Recently have tried to buy american made whenever possible. In these times, I figure if everyone will buy more domestic made goods, then perhaps our economic situation will improve. It's a lot harder to find things than you think. I wondered if you all could post what hunting equipment, clothing, etc. you have that is made in the U.S.A. that way it may save others some time searching. Thanks!
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Recently bought from the Asbell's Quality service and made in America.
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Three Rivers Archery
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The Asbell's have really nice stuff. Some Filson products are still made in the US, but you have to search for those items. Stormy Kromer is still US made. We are fortunate to have lots of home grown bows.
I try to buy US made as well, and it is getting harder by the day. Good luck, and I'm with you on your quest to buy American.
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I like Tim from http://www.braveheartarchery.us/, a sponsor here...cheap shipping and fast! Thanks again Tim!
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Most of the Sponsor's on here.
Thanks,
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Schnees boots, mystery ranch packs(on my short list)
Steve
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Carhartt, Surewood, Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
I get a kick out of how the burr gets under the saddles of the Korean products lovers when a thread like this is posted. Globilism = downgrading of USA. I support this country and the people in this country every time I can do it.
God bless you all and merry Christmas, Steve
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You can buy everything needed for trad archery that is US made-local-and way superior to imported products.
Why anyone would buy trad equipment from companies that have little idea about hunting downright laughable.
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Danner boots, on their website you can search for the American made boots. They are more expensive, but made welll.
Kifaru backpacks, all American made in Colorado.
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Originally posted by Sixby:
Carhartt, Surewood, Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
I get a kick out of how the burr gets under the saddles of the Korean products lovers when a thread like this is posted. Globilism = downgrading of USA. I support this country and the people in this country every time I can do it.
God bless you all and merry Christmas, Steve
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I always ask. If it's made overseas, I pass if I can. Some stuff just isn't made here anymore. Thankfully, most trad gear is. You have to be careful because even some of the US companies have some stuff made overseas. A couple years ago I was looking for a pair of leather, lace-up boots. I found a pair of Justins in a small, locally owned shop in South Dakota. I tried them on and they fit pretty good. The price was under $100, so I was suspicious. I asked the guy where they were made: China. I said, "Put them back on the shelf." For $30 more, he had a pair of Justins that were US made. I'm wearing them right now.
As I said, you have to ask.
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Mystery Ranch Packs in Bozeman, MT are 100% Made in the USA
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Originally posted by neargeezer:
Danner boots, on their website you can search for the American made boots. They are more expensive, but made welll.
Kifaru backpacks, all American made in Colorado.
I just checked my danner pronghorns and they are made in china. one has to be careful. I was at the North American Livestock Show last month in Louisville, KY. I wanted to purchase a pair of cowboy boots for riding my mules. There was a bunch of boot vendors there. I search several pairs of boots and didn't find the first pair made in the U.S.A. most were made in China. I guess there are a lot of Chinese cowboys. who would've known
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I purchase most of my items from Trad gang sponsors,and the rest from people who make them in North America/Canada. Because I know the pride is still in the product. Maxx
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What about aluminum or carbon shafts? Any made here in the USA? Also points, inserts, nocks, broadheads. If anyone knows let us know.
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Nothing wrong with buying American where you can. I buy local when I can, too.
I do have a problem with buying American regardless of any other factor. We have fallen into the trap in the past of making substandard goods or overcharging for them just because it's an American product. The auto industry is a good example.
In other words, I want to buy American, but not if I have to support poor business practices to make that happen.
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I hand make my own Turkey Scratch boxes from wood I cut myself on the Mississippi River for the turkey hunter that thinks he has every call!
also give my buddy David waldrop with the Waldrop Seat ,sold by GFA company . he hand makes everyone.
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Beman MFX Classics are made in the USA.
On the Danner's, you have to search the their website to be sure which are made in China and those that are made in the USA.
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Port Orford Cedar, grown, harvested and turned in the USA. And I drive a Chevy, too.
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Carhartt is made mostly in Mexico...PR
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Muzzy, Simmons Sharks, Arrow Dynamics I can't think of any more that have not been mentioned right now.
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Now, my warm fleece hunting hat with ear flaps is made in Montana by Plenty Coups Archery...PR
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Rancho Safari
Catquivers, shaggy suits, and other interesting hunting paraphenalia.
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Where do you think alot of these exotic woods come from that American bowyers use?
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Originally posted by Sixby:
Carhartt, Surewood, Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
I get a kick out of how the burr gets under the saddles of the Korean products lovers when a thread like this is posted. Globilism = downgrading of USA. I support this country and the people in this country every time I can do it.
God bless you all and merry Christmas, Steve
Where do you find your USA made Carhartt products Steve? My Carhartt shirts are made in India, and all my Carhartt pants are made in Mexico! :readit:
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I try to buy raw materials that go in to my products from the US. Tanneries have closed up all across the states due to EPA laws. The ones that are left there prices have gone up. You can get leather way cheaper imported from China and Mexico. I will not buy it the quality just is not there. I buy my leather tanned from 2 of the oldest tanneries in the states Horween and Herman Oak. Both Tanneries are still in the same family. The hardware on my armguards are made for me by a small shop. I could get them for a fraction of the cost overseas. You got to watch just cause it is made in the States does not mean the raw materials are US products. Its important to me to buy American and keep our tanneries open. You know when I built my house all the copper for the fresh water was from china.
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Originally posted by barebow17:
Where do you think alot of these exotic woods come from that American bowyers use?
It's not the same thing as manufactured goods. Different woods grow in different places. That's the way it is. Some wood has to be imported. What you have to watch for are products made from Canadian or American grown lumber and made over seas. I take a pass on those.
Dave.
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Originally posted by barebow17:
Where do you think alot of these exotic woods come from that American bowyers use?
Most of the exotic hardwoods used in risers are just that exotic. Those species don't grow in the U.S. I believe that most of the bamboo that is used for limbs comes from Japan and China.
If you want U.S. grown materials look for Oregon Myrtle (usually just referred to as Myrtle) and Pacific Yew for starters. There is English Yew as well, but obviously that's European.
In addition to those already mentioned there's Red (Slippery) Elm, American Elm, the curly maples and Osage Orange. Lots of U.S. grown materials, but most of the really colorful, highly figured stuff is exotic.
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Yea, I am in pretty bad need of another pair of Muck boots.Just having a little trouble letting go of the cash since they are made in China. How does the government expect the US consumers to help us out of our mess when almost everything we buy is made in china?? :dunno: :dunno:
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I think if a guy checked all the trad site on the web, Tradgang, ***********, Paleo Planet and Primitive Archer to name a few he/she could be completely outfitted from head to toe and bow to quiver with American made goods.
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I buy American every time I can. I refuse to fund other countries budgets when hard working men and women are struggling or laid off here. America first, her allies second, and sc$&@w the Chinese!
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http://madeinusaforever.com/
Above is a link of USA made products
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my shafersilver tip is made in the USA.
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All my steel is from the states and my leather is from Herman Oak, also in the states. The only thing not from the US on my knives is if exotic wood is specified.
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Xtra tuff boots, cheep, warm, tuff and made in the USA!!
One thing to be careful, it is not because a company is american that the stuff they sale is made in the USA. They should be a law that the origin of everything should be advertise along the description of a product, in catalogs or web site. Usually, companies are really proud to let you know that this and that is made in the USA, Canada... but not really keen on letting you know that it is made in China... they usually say "imported"... and that sucks cause I don't mind stuff made in UK or Japan...
Just my 2 cents.
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All of the products (strings & arrow holders) at Flemish Traditional Sports are proudly made in the USA! We are also a Tradgang sponsor.
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Thank you emac396, that site is great! Check out Frost River web site for great packs and gear! I'm a fan of Filson, and only buy there made in the USA stuff. Feather Friends, if you need good sleeping bags, they are the best in the world!! i'm sure there is a lot more, we have to keep at it! Canadian stuff is not to bad either...
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Brunton Optics and other gear.
Have used mine for years and while my Eterna binos won't compete w/leica, the difference isn't enough to pay for.
Client and I swapped back and forth this year and the difference wasn't much.
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Hmmm, I thought Carhart was USA. I am brokenhearted now. Betrayed. I knew about Danner although I guess they do make one model here now.
Mexico isn't so bad. I mean we are almost Mexico now , right? LOL Last time I worked a construction job I was the only English speaking man there. It felt like I was in a foreign country.
I have been building a bunch of bows with North American woods. I just finished a gorgeous longbow with all American products. Osage, Maple and Walnut. Another one with Claro Walnut, Yew and myrtle,. I doubt many of the exotics I have used are any prettier,. Except KOA , Buttttttttt Hey that is from Hawaii, USA
God bless you all, Steve
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I know you are talking about hunting equipment, but my son and his family are over in Singapore and his wife says almost everything she picks up is made in the USA. Maybe you need to travel over seas to by made in the USA products.
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Originally posted by shdwhwk:
Mystery Ranch Packs in Bozeman, MT are 100% Made in the USA
So are Wilderness Pack Specialties ... Klamath Falls, Oregon.
Some Danner boots are made overseas, some are made in Oregon.
The Pendleton Wool shirts used to be made here in Oregon, my wife worked at the Pendleton factory right out of high school. Some of it still is, but some is being sewn in China I suspect. Find the older shirts at Goodwill, they'll be made in the USA.
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Last 3 vehicles I've owned:
Ford F150... made in Canada
Dodge Ram 2500... made in Mexico
Toyota Tundra... made in USA!
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Pronghorn and Yellowstone bows made in Wyoming.
My hunting truck, a Toyota Tundra, made in USA.
My Gov work trucks, chevys, fords, and dodges, all from mexico or canada. Nothing wrong with Canada though, Canada rocks!
Bison Gear packs made in USA.
VPA and Woodsman heads are made in USA.
The deer, elk, antelope, lions, turkeys, sheep, bears, ect, that we hunt, made in USA!
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Part of the reason SO many things are now made overseas is because our Congress has raised the corporate tax to the point it is the highest in the world.....the highest government tax on manufactured goods on planet earth....
If you have a company that makes stuff, you either pay a hugely exhorbitant tax to the government or you have it made somewhere else, then pay to ship it back so you can sell it.
Simple economics......for example:
I tried to outfit my Division Snipers with Eberlestock rucksacks cause they're awesome, BUT I WAS NOT ABLE TO cause they're not made in the USA. Because if they were they would cost over a thousand bucks each and no one would buy them.
AND, in their infinite wisdom, Congress has passed a thing called the Berry Amendment, which forbids any government purchase of tactical nylon stuff (packs)not made in the USA!!!
It's awesome how they create the problem, then get involved to "fix it" and make it exponentially worse......
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For cutlery, Becker and ESEE knives are American made as are (I believe) the knives offered by Fred Asbell and the knives / hawks offered by Ron LaClair. For folders, have a look at Buck, some of the Spydercos, Zero Tolerance, etc.
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all clark broadheads products are 100% made in the USA
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I wanted to do some stump shooting in the snow, so went shopping for snow shoes. Yeah, lots of Chinese stuff, but the one pair I chose was "Red Feather"...and made in USA.
Yep...buy American when you can.
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Originally posted by mrjsl:
Last 3 vehicles I've owned:
Ford F150... made in Canada
Dodge Ram 2500... made in Mexico
Toyota Tundra... made in USA!
Toyota made in the USA of chinese parts!!!
It maybe put together in the USA but everything is made in china!!
just a thought!
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I haven't looked at all the posts and maybe it's been said but, Lone Wolf is American made.
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Simmons Sharks broadheads, Lone Wolf treestands, Guidos Web, Day One Camo, Woody Hunting Products(hand drill, climbing belt), Treewalker treestands, EZY Climb products, Russell Boots.
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Originally posted by David Yukon:
Toyota made in the USA of chinese parts!!!
It maybe put together in the USA but everything is made in china!!
just a thought!
That is simply not true. 80% of all the parts in the Toyota Tundra are made in America.
http://wot.motortrend.com/top-10-trucks-suvs-vans-north-american-parts-content-67961.html
The midsize Dodge Dakota, at 84 percent, has just a bit more North American content than the full-size Toyota Tundra, at 80 percent. The Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Canyon come in third, with 75 percent. For those who are curious, the 2011 report shows the Ram truck at 70 percent, the Chevrolet Silverado at 61 percent, and the Ford F-Series at 60 percent.
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Just so you Folks Know Carhartt !!?? :readit: I buy nothing except Red Wing Workboots they are worth every extra penny you pay for them. They last! However some of their shoes are also being made in CHINA now so check the label before purchasing. By the way my 2003 Toyota Tacoma was made in California by U.S. Auto Workers. :thumbsup: Summit Tree Stands are made in the U.S.A.! Mohawk Longbows are Made in the U.S.A. :thumbsup:
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Originally posted by barebow17:
Where do you think alot of these exotic woods come from that American bowyers use?
Some come from old nut orchards, and some are on the beach, or in our own mountain ranges. We have some beautiful domestic hardwoods right here in the USA. Even fruit woods are beautiful.
but you are talking exotics... and a lot of the exotic hardwoods are imported in raw form and are milled and dried right here before bowyer's purchase them from American companies.
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You guys think you got it bad. I try to buy Canadian when I can...which is virtually never. :/
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Stick and Limbs camo is made by Clarksfield Outdoors in MN. Good quality stuff and their turkey vest is a steal for the price. I like predator camo, but all their stuff is made somewhere else and carries a higher price tag!!
Their turkey vest is offered here for $90 and not a bit better than the american one. I don't like to pay the same or even much higher prices for something that was made with "slave" labor wages and no environmental standards.
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Dont forget the food you take to camp. Buy your fruits, vegatables and even meat from local growers. The price is often the same or even less and the difference in flavor will amaze you. for example most of the tomatoes in your local supecenter grocery store probably came from mexico picked before they were ripe as much as 6 weks ago and "truck ripened" on the way to your town.
Buying locally also benifits the local economy as the growers use some of your money to buy fertilizer, feed and other stuff locally creating more local jobs.
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Originally posted by Kirkll:
and a lot of the exotic hardwoods are imported in raw form and are milled and dried right here before bowyer's purchase them from American companies.
I agree with you Kirk. Imported goods, shipped to American businesses, and then sold to Americans. Not a thing wrong with that.
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What I was trying to say is if you buy a product that says made in the USA it should be just that. Not assembled in the USA with materials from other countries.
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Horn Hunter packs are awesome!!! Made in USA
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Terry took the words right out of my mouth,Nuff said !
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At EFA (Eagle's Flight Archery we make everything on our website in Mebane, NC. We use American products whenever possible.
We don't believe in absolute protectionism but some countries like China do not play fair. Americans (as with any other country) should support their own country first before looking elseware.
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I may get chastised for not being patriotic enough, but if I need to buy something I try to buy the best quality I can afford, which is the best value for me. That is the American way above all.
Twenty years ago I had a GMC pickup truck, and it was awful. Broke down in every state south and east of Kansas at least once. GMC service was horrible. Better off fixing it yourself. GM themselves would not make it right.I learned my lesson, and have never bought another GM made vehicle. When I got finally got rid of it, I bought a Nissan, and had zero issues. In the years since I have never had to take a vehicle back to the dealer for anything.
When I buy anything, I expect it to work, and I expect it to last, and in the pursuit of that, I do own an awful lot of US made items, but that was not my criteria. If I need something and some other country can make it better for the same or less money, I'll take it!
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I still like Carhartt quality but I believe a bunch if not all of their stuff has been moved to Honduras or someplace like that.
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Back when I was making custom arrows Gateway had just moved to Mexico. Has that changed?
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For production knives, Ka-Bar and the better Buck knives are still made in the USA (along with lots of custom knifemakers, of course).
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My new Carhart jackets are made in Mexico of US material. They kept making stuff here as long as they could and still compete. There is still nothing that compares to Carhart quality regardless of where it comes from.
I have a pair of Redwing 608 boots made here and absolutely love'em. Have another pair of Redwings, made over there, they are JUNK!
I believe the Wrangler 13MWZ "cowboy cut" jeans were the last pair of leans to be made in this country.
As far as the Toyota thing goes, they can afford to do business here. When the state practicaly pays you to build a factory there and the Japanese Govt pays the rest, its pretty easy to setup shop, they also pay a fraction of the taxes because HQ is over there. How many retirees does Toyota have on their payrole? 0, zero,nada,NONE.
Look at it any way you want, this "fair trade" BS is anything but!
Eric
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Oh Yeah...Hunting stuff...A Looong list of bows and quivers, Easton/Beman, Arrow Dynamics arrows. Lots of good wool cloths made here, one often over looked source is Bimdji Woolen mills, very nnice stuff at a reasonable price. Not too hard to find trad related items made in our country.
Eric
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Here is a link that is not just sporting goods or hunting products.
There is great stuff here and is is all USA made.
http://www.americansworking.com/index.html
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Originally posted by WESTBROOK:
I believe the Wrangler 13MWZ "cowboy cut" jeans were the last pair of leans to be made in this country.
Look up prison blues. From their website
"Prison Blues. The original, authentic, prison-constructed blue jean brand. Manufactured by inmates at the Eastern Oregon Correctional Institution in Pendleton, Oregon U.S.A.
The Prison Blues© Story
In 1989, The State of Oregon was challenged to create jobs for inmates at the Eastern Oregon Correctional Institution. A review was conducted to decide what type of industry would best fulfill the demand for inmate jobs. Following feasibility studies, analysis of the effect on Oregon’s labor business, public hearings and legislative presentations, a 47,000 square foot facility was constructed. Thus, the beginning of a new jeans factory – The Prison Blues© Jeans Factory.
Inmates desiring to work in the Prison Blues© facility are subject to an application hiring process. Once employed, inmates are trained by managers with private industry experience. Inmates demand the highest in quality from themselves; they take pride in their work.
Your purchase of Prison Blues© products is not only a sound business decision; it is an investment in common sense. You help support a program that teaches inmates the valuable working skills they need to become contributing members of society. In 1997, voters in Oregon passed legislation that all inmates in the state of Oregon must be employed…It’s the Law.
Made on the Inside to be worn on the Outside©"
most definitely made in the USA
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Originally posted by b.glass:
I haven't looked at all the posts and maybe it's been said but, Lone Wolf is American made.
I heard Lone Wolf recently moved the casting operation to China. I'll believe it too, as the ones I've seen in stores don't look as finished, and don't seem to have the same nice flat finish as the one I bought a few years back. Sad really. :(
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Interesting...I noticed that the newer Lone Wolfs were shinny too....and stood out big time on the tree......maybe that's why.
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Correction on the Lone Wolf. They did move to China had a lot of problems with production and quality. End of last year they moved all the production back here to the USA and all of the stands that they have sold in 2011 are USA made again with a have a big old American flag on the box. It was a real problem so cudos to them for bringing them back versus passing on the problem.
The new 2012 3Rivers master catalog that will be out in the next couple of weeks will be real helpful for those that want to buy American too. Each item is clearly marked wether it be imported or domestic for those that want to buy and support American business without the guess work. (I had a sneak peek, it's going to be cool)
dino