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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Lunar-Tic on December 22, 2011, 06:02:00 PM
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I guess I shouldn't be surprised to the depths people will stoop to. This morning I had a heck of a time trying to find my way in to my ground ambush spot, because somebody hauled off with the majority of my trail markers. Maybe with no treestand to steal the guy figured my homemade trail-markers were fair game. I was so dang mad, it took a good hour or so to cool off and just enjoy the hunt. Since I hunt the majority of my time on public land I make my own unique trail-markers to keep me from getting side tracked by other hunters markers left in through the years. The thief must have thought they were pretty cool, then methodically went from tree to tree looking for them. I'll be searching hard now for them markers and chances are they'll lead me right to the person I'm looking for.
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A lot of people are basically turds. I once found a guy in my treestand. Try using indian-style markers next time, i.e. cairns, strategically placed sticks, etc. They are harder to see, but chances are other people won't notice them at all.
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Since I hunt the majority of my time on public land I make my own unique trail-markers to keep me from getting side tracked by other hunters markers left in through the years.
Therein lies the problem: people not removing their trail markers! After years it looks like so much multi coloured trash, wrapped on trees and everywhere else. The old backpackers axiom of "Leave nothing but footprints" seems to have been lost.
Sorry for the loss of your hard work, but perhaps there are better ways to plot routes in the wilderness.
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sorry for your trouble but there are so many in the woods I hunt its hard to tell where one trail stops and another begins. I use sticks and other subtle ways to mark my trail that are obvious only to me
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No offense, but I find trail markers annoying. I used to use them myself, but anymore I regard them as litter. Especially flagging. GPS gets me where I want to be and no one else can find my spot by following my trail. Give it a try.
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Get your self a back tracker and set it for your hunting spot and you won’t need trail markers
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I have removed trail markers from public land, they are an eyesore. Take your time getting into and out of your hunting area and truly get to know your woods and youll find trail markers will become an eyesore to you as well.
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im constantly picking that junk out of the tree limbs on the public land that i hunt. i hate seeing it everywhere. some of it has been left for years.not to mention the trash guys leave in theyre little day camps where they rest in the middle of the day. hope you don't get lost, :thumbsup:
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old army tick that will help you out. Count all Your steeps as You walk in. I do that and always find where I want to go. Sometimes I do write them down if I have more then one spot.
Another thing you can do is use paint, Make a mark in the trees with a little spray paint. The J/A will think it's marked to be cut down..
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I remove trail markers when I see them if they've been there for any length of time or if they're on the private land I hunt. They're ugly, unnecessary and end up as litter.
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We use to have the "Tape Man" He was a bowhunter of sort and had to have either worked for 3M or he had a boat load of 3M stock. He would mark his way to "his" tree while scouting. Then mark his path to the tree during mid season. And then the next week.
Then again next year. Well anyhow I finally met him while he was tracking a deer he hit. Marking every tree with weather proof masking tape. He was confused as what tape he had just put up and what was marking his trees.
He was very happy I'd crossed a blood trail and seen him searching. I then showed him his 8pt.
He stopped after that. What a eye sore for years.
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They are not even allowed on some of the public land I hunt. Anything I leave in the public woods is subject to be picked up by someone else, that's why I don't leave anything I'm not willing to part with.
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If you hunt in and out of xtreme thickets there is no way to find your way in the dark without a marker Ive tried numerous times and its terrible, where and how I hunt needs to be marked. The tack type are all over public land and should be removed, yes I agree with that. There is a great alternative though, I use the twist tie ones that go around small limbs. You can mark out your trail, hunt your spot and take them as you leave and reuse them on your next hunt. If you leave them there and there gone the next time you come back, thats your fault and never leave a stand up on public land. And remember this, there are many animal rights/anti hunting activists in our woods and parks that will do all they can to destroy hunting gear, I saw it happen, so dont be so quik to blame a fellow hunter if anything is missing.
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Let's see your unique trail markers , I'm a little curious now
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Originally posted by Izzy:
I have removed trail markers from public land, they are an eyesore. Take your time getting into and out of your hunting area and truly get to know your woods and youll find trail markers will become an eyesore to you as well.
I agree with Izzy 100% on this one. I remove every one I see, I consider it trash. Sorry if I have ruined your morning.
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I pull off more flagging tape than you could imagine, hate the stuff, if you put it up, take it down or someone like me will do it for you. I also take down bright eyes and anything else I come across. Consider it picking up litter. It ruins my experience seeing all the garbage.
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I remove markers when I see them - always. I've seen the small grocery store trash bags used as "trail markers" - get a GPS. Its "Public Land." Besides you may just follow some fools markers off a cliff.
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I pull markers, tape, tacks, etc. wherever I see them on public land. They're an eyesore and just another way for folks to "stake out" their territory, just as leaving a stand in the woods.
Was a time when folks used woodsmanship to find their way in the woods, including in the dark, without the aid of GPSs, flagging tape, reflective tacks, etc. Those navigational aids left in the woods lead others directly to your stand/hunting area. If you pay attention to your surroundings and use a compass, it's really not that hard to find your way in the woods. I've been doing it for 50 years. It's a goal to shoot for. :wavey:
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I pull all of the markers I find. I think it just another form of littering. Learn how to find a spot by navigating or gps. Don't annoy the rest of us who have to look at all the flagging and other stuff peolpe put up but are too lazy to remove when they are done.
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It could have possibly been a wildlife officer.
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A mentor told me that to use the markers to find my area was also a way for others to find it. like wise i can find other nice spots and or where the deer have ran when hit by following others markers.
If you need to use them, do so but take them down after. I also remove any I see on public land and I have taught my boys to do so also. Thickets, swamps big woods all can be navigated by old fashioned compass or gps. Old skills are hard won but are not easily stolen.
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Take only memories leave only foot prints...
What ever happened to woodsmanship and or blazing a trail?
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I hear ya, I feel for ya, but by leaving those markers you littered those woods.
ChuckC
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I'm glad to not be alone in removing the things.
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Get a gps :)
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I guess folks told ole Steve from NE, huh!
I tend to agree, though... I've walked into the dead dark woods and it looked like a airport runway some places!
I tend to have a hard time in the dark myself but then using a light in the darkened woods seems to be as bold as crashing around making noise.
Like so many, I do my scouting in daylight, and when I put up a few reflective markers, I'm going in the NEXT day and I carry a small piece of stick or bark with me on the way in and pull each one as I go, if I have to use the light, at least I don't need to lead others.
Just so many reasons "why" they may have been removed (how long you left them out, how many others have been putting up such markers, and local traditions and public land "rules").
Good luck finding another way to mark your trails, Steve!
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Sorry double post
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Using a compass always seemed like an easier method.
I hate to see litter like that in the woods.
A sign of poor woodsmanship. If I had to use bright eyes, I would never admit it!
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It has been a long long time since I've left anything on public land.
Frank
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I use them, I love them. I pull them after the season. Uh Oh, I must not be a woodsman. LOL. I hunt deep in a swamp with Iron deposits. Compass points different directions depending on where your at. Makes for a long night in the woods if you get turned around. Prefer to not put my wife through a long night.
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Why ridicule this fella, everyone has their own methods.
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Sorry friend- Hope you do not see it as ridicule- I am sure it must have been really discouraging. But many of us are probably trying to say that there are better ways to do it- and many of us see this type of thing as litter. Even before days of GPS we navigated deep cedar swamps without flagging (besides- why would you want to show others guys where you have scouted and plan to hunt?)
Dan
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I don't get this. the guy vents his frustration and he gets flamed. If it was someone messin' with his tree stand there would be fire and brimstone. In severe weather this can be a safety issue of equal gravity . There are plenty of good reasons to leave the markers where they are and not to judge and criticize. That said - it happens and I hope you would assume that the people that removed them meant no ill. If they did - they have other issues to deal with.
PERHAPS, knowing your limits you don't want to take the risk of getting lost on a large tract of public land... or perhaps you have only been in there a few times- not wanting to disturb the area and things look different in the dark.
I cary a roll of survey flagging wherever I go in the bush - you never know what can happen and you're better to be safe than sorry. I can't side with the guys who criticize that and neither will any of my buddies who work SAR in the North.
My suggestion for the original poster- if people are removing your markers - perhaps you should reconsider the type you used and the number of ones you place. Also consider putting them out of easy reach.
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I also consider trail markers as a blot on the area that I am hunting. I remove them when I see them. These people need to spend more time getting to know their hunting area.
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Well, all I have to say on the matter is that if I ever catch anyone removing any of my trail markers with a 'Holier than Thou' attitude & lecture regarding my morals/ethics/skill/lineage, their probably going to get a punch in the face.
While I agree they are, technically, litter they're still someone else's property & navigation aids. How would you feel if I smashed your compass or GPS?
I personally get lost very, very easily in the woods. Especially at night & especially in woodland with which I'm not intimately familiar, therefore I use reflective tape to mark my way into & out of the woods. If it weren't for reflectors, chances are I'd never venture into the wilds due to a crippling fear of being lost in the dark. I'll admit, I do remove my tape when I'm finished hunting a particular stand, but that may not be until the end of the season.
Some people simply don't have the luxury of time to get so familiar with all the public land nearby, especially on draw hunts where you only have 2 or 3 days at best to scout & hunt. Navigational aids can be invaluable at times like this.
Learning to read a compass is great, but how many of you would honestly take a few simple lessons & the fully trust themselves to be able to navigate into & out of an unfamiliar patch of timber, to an exact spot? Honestly, not many.
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Sorry, double post.
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Ive tried a compass but carrying my bow and gear crawling/walking through thorny thickets trying to read a compass in the pitch black, good luck with that not for me, why make it harder for yourself. And to say someone is a poor woodsman for marking is a little overboard imo. They get me there faster and safer and aid me to harvesting mature bucks every season on public lands.
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People who assume that their old time frontier heroes didn't use trail markers haven't read enough... The practice of "blazing" a trail/tree was very common. Long hunters were prepared to spend the night out along the trail and did so with regularity. Daniel Boone was reportedly never lost though he did confess to being "powerfully turned around for three or four days."
There is nothing wrong with using trail markers and I frequently do so when there is an absence of easily recognizable landmarks. My compass skills are sufficient to find a stand in the dark, but my intention is a stealthy approach not predawn orienteering practice.
Pull someone's trail markers and you have most likely created a scenario where they end up stumbling around in the dark for an extended period of re trying to find their stand. The only thing that will accomplish is ruining their hunt and possibly yours as they spook off any game in the vicinity...
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People who assume that their old time frontier heroes didn't use trail markers haven't read enough... The practice of "blazing" a trail/tree was very common. Long hunters were prepared to spend the night out along the trail and did so with regularity. Daniel Boone was reportedly never lost though he did confess to being "powerfully turned around for three or four days."
There is nothing wrong with using trail markers and I frequently do so when there is an absence of easily recognizable landmarks. My compass skills are sufficient to find a stand in the dark, but my intention is a stealthy approach not predawn orienteering practice.
Pull someone's trail markers and you have most likely created a scenario where they end up stumbling around in the dark for an extended period of re trying to find their stand. The only thing that will accomplish is ruining their hunt and possibly yours as they spook off any game in the vicinity...
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I thought it was worth repeating! Lol
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Don't forget the safety issue also, if you fall out of a stand and have to make a cell phone call help would get there a lot quicker after dark if you could get someone started on your marked trail,I don't hunt unfamiliar ground and we don't have cell phone service in our area but a lot of people carry them in the woods for the just in case factor.
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I think the compromise here is when your done with the markers take them down and don't leave them in the woods. they are an eye sore and they are usefull,
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Even a "little" spray paint is going to be hard to remove and as for comparing trail markers to personal property such as a treestand, I suspect that leaving treestands overnight on public property such as W.M.A.s is illegal in most states as it is here. I have not seen any of the responses here "flaming" anyone , they have been courteous and I'm glad that so many others feel that public land is just that and none of us need to litter it with anything.
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I'm another who doesn't understand the negative response ("Guess folks told old Steve from NE") the guy got. I have a horrible sense of direction. I often hunt in pretty unfamiliar areas away from home that I am not able to spend lots of time in getting familiar enough with to make my way to a blind without roaming around not only off track but maybe disturbing the hunt of others who may be using the area. And as noted above by others, safety is also a concern. But I always remove my tacks when I leave for the last time. I can understand the practice of removing flagging that has clearly been left a long time, but it seems inconsiderate--at least to me--to remove a fellow hunter's tacks or other trail marking when you don't know if maybe he will become lost in the dark or a storm if you have moved it for him. Maybe some older gent (like myself). I don't want to be responsible for that.
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Yeah, I'm surprised by all the "flaming" here. I've never used trail markers, but won't knock anyone who does. Just make sure you take them with you after you're done hunting. I wouldn't take anyone else's down unless the season was over and they've obviously been left as trash. The other reason I wouldn't use them is b/c it leads anyone else there right to your spot.
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IMO public land belongs to everyone, and no one has a right to leave anything permanent on it that was not there when they arrived.
The lands around me are littered with these reflectors...every tree...it is embarrassing.
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Originally posted by two4hooking:
IMO public land belongs to everyone, and no one has a right to leave anything permanent on it that was not there when they arrived.
The lands around me are littered with these reflectors...every tree...it is embarrassing.
Very true...What cracks me up is the folks who have gotten upset with those of us that believe this...and remove the litter others have left..
If you can't find your way to your stand without leaving a bunch of ugly eye sores...don't go into the woods.Simple as that...and this doesn't matter if it is a special 1-3 day hunt and you don't have time to learn where you are going too...Use natural limbs...use your head and remember certain trees...or as someone else said...count your steps.
Leaving plastic tape strung out all over the place is littering...no matter what anyone says about it. Get maps of the area your hunting...and take the frigging time to learn how to use them to your advantage..Take a camera with you..and take pictures of where you are going..Commit this to memory..Use natural sticks or stones along the way..but...don't leave your litter in the woods..then get upset when folks removes your trash you left behind
Mac
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I love them they usually lead right to the jerk who is sneaking in on my land :)
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I tend to agree with alot of the guys on here, if you are trail marking with anything other than natural markers,(sticks and rocks) i have no sympathy. It trashes up the woods and is an eyesore. Our WMA's here in KY have those damn cateyes everywhere. A buddy of mine pulls every one he finds.
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Then if these small specs on trees bother you so much, what about the stand hunters? There are many trees in the woods I hunt that are bruised from climbers going up and down. I dont use a stand, Should I bash them while there in there damageing trees when I see them, NO, beacuse they have every rite to be there and so do the markers. There not yours leave them alone. Dont tell anyone they cant go in the woods on public land its not yours period.
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Lots of guys are saying they are all right, "just take them down when you are done" How in the crap are we gonna know when they are done? End of day? end of season? When they die?
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I have seen trees with spray paint to mark "the way" then someone would paint over to hide it , then repaint to show it. This went on for 5 years until three had so much paint it looked like graffiti. They had bright eyes and then they were pulled and replaced. This trail to a pond in the Adirondacks had been used for 40 years or more, you just had to look down and see the cow path. There a many people who are scared to death of getting lost and will do anything to prevent it from happening.....except learn the skills to keep it from happening. :dunno:
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So if I am too poor to buy cat eyes, is it ok to leave my coorslite can on a branch to mark a path? What is the difference between a metal or plastic marker and a can or bottle. Both are "foreign objects" to the woods and litter?
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Originally posted by robtattoo:
Well, all I have to say on the matter is that if I ever catch anyone removing any of my trail markers with a 'Holier than Thou' attitude & lecture regarding my morals/ethics/skill/lineage, their probably going to get a punch in the face.
While I agree they are, technically, litter they're still someone else's property & navigation aids. How would you feel if I smashed your compass or GPS?
I personally get lost very, very easily in the woods. Especially at night & especially in woodland with which I'm not intimately familiar, therefore I use reflective tape to mark my way into & out of the woods. If it weren't for reflectors, chances are I'd never venture into the wilds due to a crippling fear of being lost in the dark. I'll admit, I do remove my tape when I'm finished hunting a particular stand, but that may not be until the end of the season.
Some people simply don't have the luxury of time to get so familiar with all the public land nearby, especially on draw hunts where you only have 2 or 3 days at best to scout & hunt. Navigational aids can be invaluable at times like this.
Learning to read a compass is great, but how many of you would honestly take a few simple lessons & the fully trust themselves to be able to navigate into & out of an unfamiliar patch of timber, to an exact spot? Honestly, not many.
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All the guys flaming trail marker users should come hunt with me in the privet hedge laden swamps along the Tennessee river. I scout a way in, trim what I can to open a path and mark it with tacks. My zig-zag route consists of finding a safe crossing or sinking logs across slews to walk in knee deep water instead of waist deep quick sand like mud. My route also crosses a half mile wide tornado path that dropped 4 ft thick virgin timber, every tree. One wrong turn in the dark and your hunt is over and goose is cooked.
Here it is boys, privet on the left, tornado damage on the right, about a mile in to my hunting spot. Come on down, you will change your tune in a hurry.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/hunting%20stuff/toughgoing.jpg)
Another picture, more tornado damage and one of the bigger slews.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/hunting%20stuff/tornadoaftermath.jpg)
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Originally posted by Steve in Canton:
Originally posted by robtattoo:
Well, all I have to say on the matter is that if I ever catch anyone removing any of my trail markers with a 'Holier than Thou' attitude & lecture regarding my morals/ethics/skill/lineage, their probably going to get a punch in the face.
While I agree they are, technically, litter they're still someone else's property & navigation aids. How would you feel if I smashed your compass or GPS?
I personally get lost very, very easily in the woods. Especially at night & especially in woodland with which I'm not intimately familiar, therefore I use reflective tape to mark my way into & out of the woods. If it weren't for reflectors, chances are I'd never venture into the wilds due to a crippling fear of being lost in the dark. I'll admit, I do remove my tape when I'm finished hunting a particular stand, but that may not be until the end of the season.
Some people simply don't have the luxury of time to get so familiar with all the public land nearby, especially on draw hunts where you only have 2 or 3 days at best to scout & hunt. Navigational aids can be invaluable at times like this.
Learning to read a compass is great, but how many of you would honestly take a few simple lessons & the fully trust themselves to be able to navigate into & out of an unfamiliar patch of timber, to an exact spot? Honestly, not many.
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Are you kidding me you talk about ethics and morals and then want to punch someone in the face. If it is on public land than it is every ones property. I always like meeting people who talk tough ant threaten other people it just shows true character. Litter is litter . With the wide amount of aids available now including GPS and our cell phones there is no reason to get lost in the woods. I have maps of all of my hunting areas downloaded to my phone, they have arial views and topo views I mark where my stands are and the map takes me right to my stand.
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I think if you have used them properly (sparsely) than most people will not notice or mess with them. If you mark every tree like an air strip you are asking for trouble. (JMO)
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I tent to agree with Rob with out the punching out someone.
Bottom line everyones hunting terrain varies. People up north don't understand how someone could get lost in fairly level open public land.
Where I live we have seas of privet, most thickets impossible to walk through, immature Pine plantations with with hundreds of acres of head high black berry bushes that are impenetrable, deep hollows dropping off from the pine planted ridge tops with 50ft rock cliffs and few places to transverse from top to bottom.
A GPS or topo would be useless in this type of terrain. You have to find or blaze a tail and stick with it exactly, no room for error.
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Well I guess you guys ran this fella off. With all the negative comments and accusing him of littering.
Congratulation!! He never even gave a discription of what his trial marker were. The do make biodegradable ones these days.
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Hunting on Long Island it can be a pain not using the bright eyes sinceeverything looks the same. Then I got a Garmin Etrx and that gets me close to my spot and i havea bright eye on my tree. Has worked great so far. I did havea little trouble since i took my GPS to florida to hunt and then when i came back it was off. Butthen i realized i had to recalibrate it and that solved that problem.
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Originally posted by Eric Krewson:
I tent to agree with Rob with out the punching out someone.
Bottom line everyones hunting terrain varies. People up north don't understand how someone could get lost in fairly level open public land.
Where I live we have seas of privet, most thickets impossible to walk through, immature Pine plantations with with hundreds of acres of head high black berry bushes that are impenetrable, deep hollows dropping off from the pine planted ridge tops with 50ft rock cliffs and few places to transverse from top to bottom.
A GPS or topo would be useless in this type of terrain. You have to find or blaze a tail and stick with it exactly, no room for error.
If you or anyone else would punch someone over a 1 cent tack or piece of tape you have bigger emotional problems than you realize. I have hunted in over 30 states so I know that there is areas you can get lost in but there is never a reason to get physical with someone over a tack or trail marker.
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Hrm, I've always understood the rules on public land to be that you can't leave private property on them overnight.
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I have found that hunting on flat terrain is much more difficult than hilly or mountainous. Easier to see and use landmarks in the hilly stuff. On the other hand thick is thick and that makes it tough and very hard to be silent. But a GPS can be used, just retrace a cookie crumb path that you have scouted.
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It's not the cost of the object. It's just the point that it was his property. No different than going into someones house and stealing.
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Originally posted by wv lungbuster:
It's not the cost of the object. It's just the point that it was his property. No different than going into someones house and stealing.
There is a huge difference in breaking into some ones private house and picking up litter on public property. Like stated on many of the threads on this post you can walk on to public land any time of the year use your flashlight and find these trailmarkers throughout the system.
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Yeah, thats just what I wanna see, spray paint in the trees!
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Originally posted by Eric Krewson:
I tent to agree with Rob with out the punching out someone.
Bottom line everyones hunting terrain varies. People up north don't understand how someone could get lost in fairly level open public land.
Where I live we have seas of privet, most thickets impossible to walk through, immature Pine plantations with with hundreds of acres of head high black berry bushes that are impenetrable, deep hollows dropping off from the pine planted ridge tops with 50ft rock cliffs and few places to transverse from top to bottom.
A GPS or topo would be useless in this type of terrain. You have to find or blaze a tail and stick with it exactly, no room for error.
Thank you Eric. There is such a vast difference in the terrain & fauna between North & South. We don't have mountains or high points to use as navigation or triangulation points. When you're in a thicket that's so closed in you can barely see the sky & you can't see much more than 5yds in any direction with a flashlight (often much, much less than that) reflective tape or cat's eyes are invaluable.
As Eric says, when you're walking to & from a stand in this kind of land, you need to follow an exact path in & out. Confuse one identical White Oak for another identical White Oak to make your 90º right turn & you can miss your stand & get turned round very, very easily.
We get precious few hunting days & I'm not prepared to waste a single one by not being able to find my tree & blundering around for hours.
Hunting down here is nothing like deer hunting in the northern or western States where you're hunting big timber with little understory or open crop fields. We're used to hunting big lumps of very scrubby, head height brush that you simply cannot see through to navigate.
Oh & Steve in Canton, anyone of the many folks from Trad Gang I've hunted with or hung out with over the years knows I'm not a threat making guy. I'm very easy going & do not make threats at all. That said, I'm not a little guy, I'm a Veteran & worked as a Bouncer before I moved here. If someone maliciously & intentionally tries to get me lost in the woods, there will be a very physical conversation takes place.
There are very few trails for us to follow down here. A good game trail would be a rabbit path. Try following that at 3 in the morning with a climbing stand on your back, bow in one hand, flashlight in the other while it's 90º & you're being eaten alive by mosquitos.
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IT is personal property not litter. If there legal to use u can't do anything about it. Does a hang on treestand become litter once the hunter leaves it.
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Originally posted by Steve in Canton:
I have hunted in over 30 states so I know that there is areas you can get lost in but there is never a reason to get physical with someone over a tack or trail marker.
There is if it's my navigational aid into & out of several thousand acres of identical brush & the removal/theft of it means I may well be in there for a day or two.
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I am sure you are an easy going guy, I have read many of your post throughout the years. Being a veteran and a former bouncer and a big man should not give you or anyone the right to punch any one. On private land put up as many of the trail markers as you want but on public land they are an eyesore. Once again I have hunted in over 30 states and in all types of terane the land you are describing is no easier to get lost in than land in any other part of the US. Nowhere in this or any of my previous post have I stated that I am trying to intentionally get some one lost.
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Originally posted by wv lungbuster:
IT is personal property not litter. If there legal to use u can't do anything about it. Does a hang on treestand become litter once the hunter leaves it.
Yes
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By removing someone's markers because you consider them an eyesore, you are removing their ability to navigate. How is that NOT intentionally trying to get someone lost?
You have no more right to remove someone's reflectors than I have to punch someone for removing mine. If you think they're that much of an issue, call your Game Warden/DNR to have them all removed & banned.
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The point is, check the regs on public land. I know here in Missouri if you leave it overnight, you've broken the law and (I think) forfeited the right to the property.
We are talking about multi-use public ground here, folks. This isn't your back yard and you can't decorate it to suit yourself. I know it makes navigation harder, but you aren't the only one out there. What you put out affects other people.
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Any property left on public land is abandon property. You forfeit ownership... And yes that does include trail cameras left on public land as well. And yes, by all means talk to a game warden, as they will likely be the ones removing it.
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Originally posted by robtattoo:
By removing someone's markers because you consider them an eyesore, you are removing their ability to navigate. How is that NOT intentionally trying to get someone lost?
You have no more right to remove someone's reflectors than I have to punch someone for removing mine. If you think they're that much of an issue, call your Game Warden/DNR to have them all removed & banned.
Punching some one is a felony. Removing trailmarkers from public land is not which gives me the right to remove them for being an eyesore. I take a trash bag into the woods every time I hunt public lands and it is amazing the items that I bring out. I hate looking at any thing that is not supposed to be there.