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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Bladepeek on January 03, 2012, 11:15:00 AM
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I look at the classifieds and see things like "Gorgeous xxx and xxx riser, beautiful waterfall xxx limbs ..." and no pictures. I doubt seriously if I'm the only one who has bought a bow just because it was so darned pretty.
Why is it guys will sit for hours on a day when they really don't expect to see something walk by, but won't spend the 15 minutes or maybe half an hour following the instructions for how to post a picture with their ads? Betcha they're missing some impulse buys that way.
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I'm positive you are right.
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i agree !! a picture is worth a thousand words.
:readit: :clapper:
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Because trad gang has one of the most archaic, convoluted processes needed to get a pic up. We don't like it.
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I agree Ron, only way I can understand it is if someone doesn't have a digital camera. Pictures are especially important to someone that knows what they like in a bow but doesn't know that the for sale bow has what that is.
GOOD pictures are also very important in a sale. I know I have got more money for used bows and they have sold much faster due to quality photos.
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Seems like that's kind of biting off your nose to spite your face. I think if I were selling a bow, I'd do what I had to in order to get it to as many potential buyers as possible. I guess there's a clique of guys who all know each others' bows and don't need to see pics. That's still leaving out guys who might buy just because that particular combination of woods, form, or whatever, really rings a bell that starts a desire to buy that was safely asleep until then. By the way, I'd like to chat longer, but I have to run to the post office to pick up a money order for the bow I just bought :)
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I have tried time and again to post pics following the instructions to a tee. It is truley not worth all of the extra hassle. Stickbow has such a simple procedure to posting pics. I routinely post about a common subject on each sight, or post bows and gear for sale, but will only post pics on Stickbow.
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I totally agree. I've been in a hurry and just added a bow without pictures and 100% of the time people ask for pictures so you might as well do it right the first time. In fact I have a bow I want to sell right now but don't have pictures yet so I haven't put it on yet. If you can't figure it out PM somebody and ask them if they could help you out.
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I'm not sure what the difference is between having to post pics via photobucket, or just uploading them directly from your own computer. Its a pain having to upload them to photobucket, then copy and paste a pic link to put in a thread. Seems there would be an easier way. Many other forums allow direct upload. But it is what it is.
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Originally posted by Warchild:
I have tried time and again to post pics following the instructions to a tee. It is truley not worth all of the extra hassle.
Seriously?
When creating a post, click the button that says "Image."
Copy and paste the link for the photo from whatever photo hosting site you use.
Click "OK."
Done. :thumbsup:
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I am sure there is a reasonable explanation why we can't just upload to the site. Can we have one of the administrators respond to this thread?
Thanks in advance
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Originally posted by BAK:
Because trad gang has one of the most archaic, convoluted processes needed to get a pic up. We don't like it.
Really? It isn't that hard. Several image hosting sites auto size and even provide the code that you need to add you your post. If I can figure it out....it just ain't that hard.
Just my humble opinion.
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I wish they would put LH or RH in the title.
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Not my problem. Buyers can choose to look elsewhere! I am not trying to slam anyone here but just because someone else cannot do pictures doesnt mean you have to see it.
I bet it wasnt too long ago people had to send pictures through the postal service.
As a seller I would include pictures but not all sellers are created equal.
I love looking at the bow pictures as much as the next guy but I think we are getting a little bit out of line for being hard on the technically challenged.
I dont jump down people's throats for not using spell check, I will not jump down someones throat for not including pictures either. I prefer them but they are not required.
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I agree 100% pics work, but, I'm like some of these other guys. I can't get the pics to upload, can't get the copy & paste part to work either. It may be something I'm doing wrong but I understand why some would not worry with it. I have a couple bows I'm thinking of selling so I'm gonna give it another try. Hopefully someone can steer me in the right direction so I can figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Charlie
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I agree that it is to the sellers benefit to post a pic of what they are selling. I have passed over many ads of those that won't post pics.
As far as it being hard to post pics here on Trad Gang? I am not very good with a computer and even dumb old me figured it out.....so I don't really understand the comments about it being hard to post pics?
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Doing a direct upload would require a LOT more storage on the TradGang servers. Sicne it's not a commercial site, I really doubt you're going to see that.
Loading to Photobucket is pretty straightforward. Yeah, it's an extra step but it keep hosting costs down here and helps keep TradGang running.
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Another benefit of uploading to a photo host first is you know have a backup of your photos.
Also for what its worth skip the photobucket and use www.imgur.com (http://www.imgur.com)
So much easier and faster. Photobucket has too many issues for me.
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Finally someone said it. I agree 100% with what TJ said about paying more for bows and getting more for them when there are some really nice pictures.
I don't even have a digital camera at the moment but i take all my items for sale to a friend of mine who has expensive camera equipment and let him help me.
I will be getting another camera before next fall, i dropped my other one in a creek. :knothead:
Joe Van
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I have bought many a bow sight unseen from the classifieds here, just on the sellers word. And many have bought from me the same way. There has never been a problem, a photo is nice but not necessary. I can take someones word! And all the the folks I have dealt with have been excellent! :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Right on Jeff. I regularly visit about 6 sites/day and sometimes up to 12 not all archery related and all but ONE requires posting from a photo hosting site.
If you are selling a new Black Widow for $200 you probably don't need to post a picture, otherwise it's poor marketing.
Is it more difficult to upload pictures to Photobucket once, post once or send emails with pictures to a 20 people?
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Guess I really kicked a hornet's nest that time. Charlie, I wasn't trying to jump down anyone's throat for not posting pictures. That's certainly their option.
As reddogge said, if you are selling a new or nearly new factory bow at a bargain, or even just a fair price, pictures are probably not necessary. If a TradGanger says the bow is in nearly new condition, or has only a small scratch on the riser, I believe him and would be shocked and upset if that turned out not to be the case. If I was in the market for that particular bow, I'd probably buy it.
I was just stating that triggering a buy that might not have occurred otherwise, will usually require some kind of stimulus - an OMG is that beautiful! - type stimulus.
"To each his own" said the old lady as she kissed the cow".
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It's not all about being a benefit for the potential buyer to see a picture. It's a lot easier for the seller not having to send out multiple pictures for everyone inquiring. Like reddogge said, it's easier to take the extra time once, and dowload/post a few good quality pics rather than sending out 20-30 sperately via email. But to each his own.
And if you do go to the trouble of posting a picture via Photobucket, why not make it a good one. A blurry pic of the front of the riser and nothing else isn't very helpfull.
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Im sorry to get so defensive about the issue. I was frustrated about the whole picture thing. I tried to do the whole photobucket thing the other night and failed miserably. So I guess I owe an apology to you all. What im trying to say is if you are new to all of this stuff it aint as easy as some people make it out to be. I bet alot of people here had to have someone else walk them through it to get it done. But why is it so hard for someone to follow the directions in an add. There are probably numerous reasons, heck some people just want to complain because there is nothing else to do. I know the adds with pictures get more replies. Alot of those replies are folks stating they wish they could buy it. It takes time for some of us, the ones that wantjto learn will get it. Im one of the guys that wants to learn and I will. This is the sort of thing that makes me get off my duff and learn. Thanks for the jumpstart.
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Obviously, none of you have an old computer & dial up.
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I don't think the process is that difficult....But, personally prefer to post pictures of what I'm selling. If you don't...guaranteed someone will ask for pictures anyways.
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It might not be that hard after the first time. The first time is always the hardest. Did we all ride a bike the first time we tried. I bet not. There are other ways to get pics than to post with the add. I guarantee there are alot of people that have missed some really good deals on this site because they dismissed an add because the picture wasnt smack dab in front of them right then and there. People dont take the time to look at other options. People that hunt and fish should have more patience.
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wckid, sent you a PM with some help hopefully.
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wc kidd, I went through the same thing when I got my cell phone and had to have a couple of kids show me how to do anything other than make a call. At my age, I have no pride left, so it doesn't bother me :)
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posting picture is pretty simple... even for me!
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I can tell you this,it is easier and usually less time consuming to figure out and set up a Photobucket account than it is to email the same pictures of the same bow to a dozen or more "prospective" buyers,most of which have no intention of buying but just like pictures.
Once set up,the next one is simple.Email pictures to 20 people or post them one time for everyone reading the ad to see?Once set up on such an account you can also participate in other photo threads or post pictures that could help explain something to others.One picture is worth a thousand words.
For anyone REALLY wanting to learn how to post pictures,there are a ton of resources and people willing to help you.
Posting pictures can be used to help explain procedures or equipment to newbies and others so is a useful tool beyond selling in the classifieds-if you are one of those who likes to share and help others.
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Thanks for the help reddogge, I will make the most of it. Ive only had a computer for about 2 months and still have the training wheels on. I will be on a big bike soon. Thanks and have a good day.
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There are some great tutorials on other forums for anyone that's truly interested in learning to post pics. I agree that it's kind of a pain, but once you get it down it can be pretty fun actually...
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN0982-1.jpg)
(http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l502/MrDwood/DSCN0981.jpg)
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Those are good pictures wooddamon1. I like the muted colors with that splash of red in the picture.
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Speaking of "splashes of red" was that hunt successful?
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I too like to see some pics and I know those who buy from me like to see them too. If you can't post a pic well you can't, just have to work around it. I'm sure it would make for interesting research, same bow: how long for sale with pic and without pic. Don't know...but I'd put my money on the bow with a pic or two.
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Thanks fellas, my girl was out here in CO visiting and snapped a few pics.
Unfortunately the hunt was unsuccessful as far as making meat goes, but I did almost get a shot at a cow elk that morning...talk about a rush!
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I know there have been a few bows I really wanted but wanted to see pics before pulling the trigger.....well by the time I PM'd for pics, the seller got the PM, he had to wait till he got home from work that night to send them, then I finally got the pics that night( or in some cases a day or two later)...I had talked myself out of the bow.
In some cases if the pics were there to begin with, I would have made the purchase right then and there!
And as Tom said, GOOD pics are worth it...sometimes I have to still ask for better pics as the ones posted don't show the bow very well.
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Originally posted by Over&Under:
I know there have been a few bows I really wanted but wanted to see pics before pulling the trigger.....well by the time I PM'd for pics, the seller got the PM, he had to wait till he got home from work that night to send them, then I finally got the pics that night( or in some cases a day or two later)...I had talked myself out of the bow.
In some cases if the pics were there to begin with, I would have made the purchase right then and there!
And as Tom said, GOOD pics are worth it...sometimes I have to still ask for better pics as the ones posted don't show the bow very well.
What Jake meant to say is "THANK YOU" for saving him 4-700 bucks. His wife says thanks too. :readit:
No prob Jake, don't mention it. ;)
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Interesting thread. I just posted a bow for sale and did it without pictures. I have since went back and added a few for those that like to see the pictures.
John
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(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll48/danking49/deereatingpopcorn.gif)
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If you can attach a picture to an email...its just as easy to post a pic here.....just sayin!
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I have no luck trying to post a picture on this site either.
Smithhammer - Maybe I'm blind but I don't see anywhere near the bottom of the page where it says "image" for downloading.
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there is if you go to full reply form. wich i never do.
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I agree a pic is worth a lot but please consider that many of us are running a business as a one man band or at least as a couple i.e. husband and wife.Time is a premium in such an endeavor and often precludes getting pictures to post. Let alone to resizing and filing for later use. I post pictures when I can. My photography leaves a great deal to be desired (hence look at Toelke Whip in the sponsors classifieds. The zebra riser is not done justice with the lighting available. Better lighting is available outside using the sun but that depends on the weather especially in the winter. Please consider the above when shopping classified ads. I think all sponsors would be happy to communicate with you. I do vow to become more efficient at posting pictures of products for the buyers benefit. I have taken a digital photography class this fall just to improve the horrible photography skills I possess. :D
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arrow30 - "there is if you go to full reply form. which I never do."
Well, that is the issue. It’s too complicated to do just to post a photo. Most places ya just click a box, open your browser, click on your jpeg image file and walla.
I'm not complaining, am just saying...
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Pretty much every web browser allows you to have multiple tabs open. You have a Tradgang tab open and a Photobucket tab open, in Photobucket click on the img code box next to the pic and it automatically copies it, no need to even right click and select copy. Pop back over to your Tradgang tab, paste it in and your golden.
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(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/lwscott/deadhorse-2.jpg)
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Originally posted by Cyclic-Rivers:
Originally posted by Over&Under:
I know there have been a few bows I really wanted but wanted to see pics before pulling the trigger.....well by the time I PM'd for pics, the seller got the PM, he had to wait till he got home from work that night to send them, then I finally got the pics that night( or in some cases a day or two later)...I had talked myself out of the bow.
In some cases if the pics were there to begin with, I would have made the purchase right then and there!
And as Tom said, GOOD pics are worth it...sometimes I have to still ask for better pics as the ones posted don't show the bow very well.
What Jake meant to say is "THANK YOU" for saving him 4-700 bucks. His wife says thanks too. :readit:
No prob Jake, don't mention it. ;) [/b]
That is hittin the nail on the head Cyclic! :thumbsup: :laughing: :laughing:
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Don't know why some don't understand some don't and won't do photobucket...
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I know one thing,pictures have sold bows and all manner of other stuff for me and quickly.
As I mentioned earlier,pictures also can and have been used on this site to help other people.