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Title: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Yancey on February 17, 2012, 09:18:00 AM
I just got in a huge shipment of giant Boa's and Pythons. There is a thread on the Sponsor Classified on these snakes.
 These large boa's ane pythons make a nice snake backing but they will also serve as a rawhide backing as well. They are big enough to get more than one bow per snake, they are running 8 to 10' long.

 These two boas are going to Ed Scott.

  (http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac73/mikeyancey/snakes002.jpg)

Mike
 www.pinehollowlongbows.com (http://www.pinehollowlongbows.com)
479-474-3800

 
There has just been a new law passed putting the python on the endangered list. The one that is endangered is the Indian Python, these are Bermese and are out of Florida and not threatened but because of the trouble people have telling the difference all pythons are now on the list. The law just passes and the Boa's were not affected, but there will be 90 days that the meat and raw skins can be sold after the law goes into effect. It will still be legal to have the skins just not to sell the raw product that I get across state lines. The product that I sell is processed and in cases like this have been given longer to sell but once I sell all these that will be all there is.
Mike
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: b.glass on February 17, 2012, 09:24:00 AM
Ed is a lucky guy! Those are nice Mike!
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Tater on February 17, 2012, 09:28:00 AM
Big Skins..........  :scared:  

   I would be curious to see how they look on a bow.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mudd on February 17, 2012, 09:39:00 AM
Wow!  Mike those are some really "Big" skins!!

Nice!!

God bless,Mudd
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: sweeney3 on February 17, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
So those skins are thick/tough enough to serve as rawhide as well?  A two-for-one sort of thing.  That is interesting.  

As a slightly-aside, I listened to an NPR segment about non-native constrictors causing some ecological havoc in the Florida swamps.  A guy might could arrange to go harvest some skins down there.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Frenchymanny on February 17, 2012, 10:16:00 AM
Amazing!

Are pythons and boas an ecological issue in Florida?
Are there 'Gangers hunting them with the bow and arrow?

F-Manny
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: lpcjon2 on February 17, 2012, 03:52:00 PM
Mike I had a thread over the summer where I skinned one out and what an event.The skin is amazing looken.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Yancey on February 17, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
(http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac73/mikeyancey/pythons.jpg)

Here are some pythons and another boa. 3 of the pythons are sold but I have plenty more. The pythons will be around 10' each and should do 4 or more backings.

Mike
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: lpcjon2 on February 17, 2012, 04:08:00 PM
Mike, this is the one I did.

 (http://i665.photobucket.com/albums/vv19/lpcjon2/skin.jpg)
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Mecredy on February 17, 2012, 08:12:00 PM
Here's one with the stuffing still in it. "Baby", my wife's ball python.  

 (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f301/jillanmike/baby.jpg)
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: owlbait on February 17, 2012, 08:19:00 PM
It would be cool to get onestringer some pics of those to see if they were different than his "skins" that he offfers.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Roadkill on February 17, 2012, 10:03:00 PM
Where are these snakes from?  Here or from a foreign supplier.   Where in the US do such snakes grow?
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Bjorn on February 17, 2012, 10:21:00 PM
According to Monster Quest they are all over the Florida swamps.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on February 17, 2012, 10:58:00 PM
Wow, those could back a HUGE bow!   ;)
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Roadkill on February 17, 2012, 11:09:00 PM
Wow. Never thought they were in the US
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Alvey on February 17, 2012, 11:18:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mike Mecredy:
Here's one with the stuffing still in it. "Baby", my wife's ball python.  

  (http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f301/jillanmike/baby.jpg)
:scared:    :help:
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Pat B on February 17, 2012, 11:41:00 PM
I saw a series of pics from FLA the other day with a very large python that had eaten a whole deer. The biologist was disecting it.
 Nice skins, Mike. Those pythons and boas do have very tough skins.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: on February 17, 2012, 11:50:00 PM
While snakes are beneficial in their home range and should not be wiped out. We should all have have bow backings, quivers, what ever it takes to make it worth snake hunters to wipe the pythons out of Florida. Friends of mine that live down there see them all the time.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: **DONOTDELETE** on February 18, 2012, 12:00:00 AM
If my wife put one of those dad burn things in my bed I'd leave home and never look back. i just love snakes.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Mecredy on February 18, 2012, 12:19:00 AM
Baby's a pretty good python, she's not like those big ones you hear about running (or better slithering) amuck in Florida these days.  She'll only get about 48 inches long at the most.  With their average life span, she has about 38 more years until she'll die and I can back a bow.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: twitchstick on February 18, 2012, 02:02:00 AM
Now that's some cool backing!
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Yancey on February 18, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
They are tough skins and one neat thing about them is the scale's are not like other snakes. They have a very smooth texture to the skin after being put on the bow making them easy to slick up.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: lpcjon2 on February 18, 2012, 09:20:00 AM
My buddy is a breader and breads some very unique color combinations, and sometimes they get certain diseases that they die from. thats when he gives them to me or they get disposed of.Skinning one thats big is an interesting task. I am waiting for a little smaller set for the bow.

  Mike if you get pics of them on a bow please post them.Tim
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Hopewell Tom on February 19, 2012, 06:23:00 AM
And we thought RC had snakes to show us...
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: ronp on February 19, 2012, 06:29:00 AM
Cool.  Tater said he's curious to see what they would look like on a bow.  I would be SCARED to death to see them on a snake!
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Yancey on February 19, 2012, 08:39:00 AM
Go back to the first post, I edited it. New law just passed and this will be your last chance to get legal pythons.
Mike
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Bladepeek on February 19, 2012, 10:15:00 AM
That would be pretty typical. The FL DNR (or equivalent) crying about how the big constrictors are multiplying like crazy and doing serious damage because the climate suits them and they have no natural predators to keep them in check.  Then along comes the US Fish & Wildlife Service and says you can no longer sell them because they're endangered. Why not just require a permit to hunt them, then put a tag on the harvested snake and supply a certificate of origin when selling them. Way too complicated for Washington I guess.

I'm a bit surprised they didn't create a Python Czar to monitor the whole thing.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Yancey on February 19, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Bladepeek,
 Thats right, there was no problem until Florida started harvesting these and there became a market for the product. So lets make a big mess a bigger one by the Government getting into the mix.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Zbone on February 19, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
After all the hoopla about these invasive species in Florida and the F&G bellyaching about them for the past couple years, they are now going to protect them??? Go figure…
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Yancey on February 19, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
Makes no since to me, I can see the Indian Python on the list but its in India. These snakes are a totaly different and from the USA kind but they look alike so they get on the list. Get em while you can is all I can say because I wont sell them once these are gone.
Mike
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Pat B on February 19, 2012, 03:35:00 PM
Is Fla protecting these snakes or is it preventing more from coming into the state?
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Yancey on February 19, 2012, 04:11:00 PM
No its not Florida, they were all for the harvest and use of the meat and skins. This new law prevents the sale of meat and skins of the python 90 days after the passing of the law a couple of weeks ago but you can still have the skins after that just not sell the raw skin or meat.  Its the US Fish and Wildlife Service. Because these pythons are hard to tell from the Indian Python that is only found in India and they look alike so all python were put together in this new law. This all came about when people started making money off the skins, there is one shop in FL. that is getting 1200.00 for pants made from the skins. The only thing good right now is the Boa's coming out of FL are still ok to sell.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: lpcjon2 on February 19, 2012, 04:31:00 PM
Mike,
  My buddy is a snake breeder in NJ(has special permits to breed and sell) would this effect him giving me the snakes that die from disease? Selling those skins is it illegal?
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: Mike Yancey on February 19, 2012, 06:19:00 PM
If its not a python should be fine, if its a python you better check. From what I have been told it will still be ok to own and posses just not sell.
Title: Re: Rawhide with an attitude once these are gone thats it
Post by: DVSHUNTER on February 19, 2012, 08:23:00 PM
Guess you will just have to give em to me then.  :readit: