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Who hunt elk with selfbow. what the weight you uses
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Me hunt bear with one...check ure mail!
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You are the reason I am asking this Question ,got me thinking about selfbows
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I've been elk hunting twice in Colorado with a sinew backed osage the first time and the second one was an osage static recurve. Both about 56#@26". Hunted with hill cane arrows with WWs or trade points up front.
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My boys and I all hunt elk w/ selfbows. Doug Campbell, and Walt Francis, both do it as well.
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:campfire: This thread is gonna get good...
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looking forward to this thread taking on a life of it's own.
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My wife bought me a selfbow class at Raptor one year, so over two weekends I built one out of Osage, it finished about 55lbs@28. The arrows I built for it are Douglas fir with 160grn. STOS broadheads and the bow flings them with authority. Hunted elk the next season with it and had a small 5 pt. bull walk up to within 5 yds. but I couldn't shoot as the area was spike or cow only! :knothead: :mad: The bow has since developed a fair bit of string follow in the lower limb so I don't shoot it much.
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I hunt everything with a selfbow! Osage, 55#, River Cane Arrows, 4 fletch, "old" Simmons Interceptors.
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This thread is useless without pictures!!!!
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I do.... I made 4 bows before I settled on the one I liked. With the help of Ted Fry at RaptorArchery I was able to make a 40's style static recurve. It was a bit light before last elk season--which forced me to glue up senue until it reached 56lbs at my draw.
took the bow out for the opener in Washington and managed to convince a huge Cow to fall into my arrow that had elk written all over it.
What I have learned the most important factor is a sharp well placed arrow shot from the bow you are satisfied with.
Good luck
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cool thread, yesterday John Strunk put in the mail a osage bow I bought from him and will be hunting elk with it this sept. 58Lb @28
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YOU CANT HUNT ELK WITH A SELF BOW
:smileystooges:
we need pictures to prove it ;) ;) :readit:
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Yep, love to see some pics! :campfire: :coffee:
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I've got two Osage staves waiting to fulling cure. Shouldn't be long :cool: :campfire:
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Someday!!
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Selfbows only. Anything less, would be uncivilized. I'm going in September. I'll have a 55-60 pounder, depending on what I make or take.
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Okay....I'll put a couple up. Just to elaborate...I hunt everything with selfbows or primitive style bows for the last two plus decades with few exceptions. So every year I craft new bows, picking out the ones I want to hunt with. I make them all in the 65 to 75 lb range at our draw....so I don't have to worry about new arrows each year! My boys have just recently taken to selfbows....though have shot them as well, most of their lives. This past year has seen them getting into making their own selfbows and shooting them. They like the same specs as I do. It works for us.
This elk was taken by my son Kory a few years ago with a 58 inch osage selfbow I made, he borrowed. It's a dandy bull.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/woodwizard/Kbull4.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/woodwizard/Kbull5.jpg)
This cow I took quite a while back with a hick-backed maple board bow....before I had good access to osage. Taken in January during a late hunt for bowhunters....that does'nt exist anymore since the wolves moved in.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v508/woodwizard/latecow3.jpg)
Somewhere I have a pic of a bull Doug Campbell shot with a bamboo backed osage bow and a stone point, I believe.... but I'm not sure where.
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got my strunk today love it 56 # a little light maybe , but I am going to use 600-650grn arrows and keep shot inside of 20yrds use a super sharp len fisher broadhead and hit em in the lungs.
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Shot a satellite bull 5x5 with a QUARTERMOON LONGBOW made by Bert Frelink all wood bamboo backed bow....( bamboo back osage belly )
in 2006... 57 # at my draw (58" bow) laminated birch arrow two blade 620 grain arrow...friend called him in to 13 yards.... not a selfbow but as close as it gets....being an all wood bow...
(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff383/bte1958/elk20062.jpg)
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John Strunk's bows are beauties....good luck
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I hunt with the selfbows I make. I have only taken one elk, a couple of blacktail and one mule deer. It is not the bows fault that I haven't taken more. Its more my hunting.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd69/BigArcher/P1010009-1.jpg)
That is a 93# osage with rattlesnake skin. No shelf.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd69/BigArcher/michtrip04008-1.jpg)
The same bow is 2nd from the bottom.
BigArcher
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alot of weight there Big Archer...nice elk....
hope your shoulders hold up with that poundage....I.m 54 now.... going lighter..heaviest I ever shoot is about 65# but prefer about 55 now....try and keep it there for another 10 years....
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Maybe this year????????
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BigArcher....LOVE THAT QUIVER!!!!
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This pic was taken at the head of Salt Creek Trail(about 10,000') in the San Joan Mountains of S W Colorado. The bow on the left is "Elkie" a sinew backed osage bow I made for my first elk hunting trip along Salt Creek. I gave this bow to Kenneth after our hunt. The other bow with the choke cherry bark backing is an osage static recurve selfbow I made for my last hunt.
I had to remove the sinew from Elkie because of problems it was having and when I sent it back to Kenneth it was a selfbow with rawhide backing. These were out primary hunting bows last Sept when we went back to Salt Creek, both pulling 56#@26"(Kenneth pulls 29").
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y199/PatBNC/ColoradoElkHunt2011011.jpg)
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Cool Stuff....... :thumbsup: :notworthy:
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Great thread! !! Love the photos, thanks guys!
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Steve Welch from MS has killed at least 5 elk with his bamboo backed osage bows.
Here is one from a couple years ago.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v181/ekrewson/hunting%20stuff/stevewelch5x6resized.jpg)
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I am loving this thread, keep it coming guys!
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ttt
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Come on this thread needs an update let's see some more pics guys!!!!
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Cool stuff
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Very good thread! Hoping to make a hunting weight bow one of these days. Fantastic stuff!
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Sorry I just can't see shooting anything other than woodies out of a self or BBO bow. But cool pics guys.
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Carson Brown of Echo Archery took one last season. link below!
http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=234;t=000051;p=1
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(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g295/kevsuperg/denton.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/kevsuperg/media/denton.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g295/kevsuperg/2011_0322shooting0024.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/kevsuperg/media/2011_0322shooting0024.jpg.html)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g295/kevsuperg/2011_0322shooting0016.jpg) (http://s59.photobucket.com/user/kevsuperg/media/2011_0322shooting0016.jpg.html)
this by definition is a selfbow. i made it myself from a single hickory stave ( from around penn yann NY) it is unbacked, 67" long drawing 56#@28.
Its the first one that i made that would actually shoot an arrow without becoming a two piece bow.. only took about ten tries.
I havent hunted with it yet but a longbow moose and a selfbow elk are on my short list.
after my escape from New York 2 years ago i've bought a home here in north idaho and i plan to begin building bows again but 1st a shaving horse to build.
anyone care to guess where the extremely difficult pic was taken. someone from back east might know.
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I've taken 3 elk with a selfbow. All were under 60 pounds but were about 56-58 at my 30 inch draw.
Mike
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I am planning on it this year! I've taken mule deer doe with A hickory backed hickory, all wood but not a selfbow.
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I think "the 8th dwarf" used to post some pics with elk he shot with his seflbows.
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I'm up for a new challenge and honestly can't say my bow will hold up I've had bad luck lol. But figure I'll have my bear TD as a good back up! Thinking CO this year and WY next year. Plus both states have great trout fishing which is a close second passion.
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Know many selfbow shooters who have killed both elk and moose!
But if I remember, it was a sharp, well placed, arrow, that did the work! :bigsmyl:
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Osage self bow 55# @28" Snakeskin backed, Bison horn tip overlays and a Wolf tooth arrow rest.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh216/quartermoonlongbows/photo_zpspfybkdal.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/quartermoonlongbows/media/photo_zpspfybkdal.jpg.html)
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Nice, Bert!
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You guys have my utmost respect.
Taking out game (especially Elk and other big and dangerous game) with wooden sticks made from staves taken from trees the way it has been done for tens of thousands of years is really the apex of hunting in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Bert Frelink:
Osage self bow 55# @28" Snakeskin backed, Bison horn tip overlays and a Wolf tooth arrow rest.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh216/quartermoonlongbows/photo_zpspfybkdal.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/quartermoonlongbows/media/photo_zpspfybkdal.jpg.html)
A wolf tooth arrow rest man I want to see that!!
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No Elk but Black Bear with my homemade Osage selfbow and stone point...tippit
(http:// [url=http://imgur.com/FXKJUmY] [img]http://i.imgur.com/FXKJUmY.jpg?1)[/url] [/IMG]
(http:// [url=http://imgur.com/87fqRE9] [img]http://i.imgur.com/87fqRE9.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Great thread!!
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Tippet, that shaft looks out of place. :rolleyes:
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Jeff,
2X on What Pat B said.....It just don't go with a stone head.
That said, our mutual friend Doug uses them with his selfbows.
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A wolf tooth arrow rest is hard to beat. :D
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I'd like to see that wuff tooth arrow rest too.
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I'm pretty sure I have a picture with a close up of the Wolf tooth arrow rest , I'll see if I can find it .
Post as soon as I can.
Bert
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Here you go Chad & Kevin :)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh216/quartermoonlongbows/P1020269_zpswkizgaxc.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/quartermoonlongbows/media/P1020269_zpswkizgaxc.jpg.html)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh216/quartermoonlongbows/P1020268_zpsizslpb2w.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/quartermoonlongbows/media/P1020268_zpsizslpb2w.jpg.html)
The Wolf that provided the tooth was trapped on the Ranch I shot the Elk at.
Pic's were taken during the building process.
Bert
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Bert that is real inventive thank you for taking the time to post the picture sir.
Chad
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Wow, that's cool!
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Thank you sir. That is really nice.