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Title: How many use tracking dogs after the shot
Post by: BUFF on May 10, 2012, 03:46:00 PM: I carried my dog to a certification field trail a couple of weeks ago and after visiting with everybody noticed alot of the folks there were bow hunters. Being color blind I used to set in the stand full of dread after the shot, no matter how good it looked worried I would not find my deer, pig or what ever.
Now I cant hardly wait to get down and put Bagley to work.
She has found over 50 animals for me and others
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Post by: joebuck on May 10, 2012, 04:04:00 PM: looking good Buff! I trained my duck dog to a AKC Master Level. Flipping back and forth to start him on " blood" trailing. Mainly he finds deer like most labs by winding.. He' s pretty good but would be better if he kept his nose down....Which training would solve However.......I may just buy another pup.

What kind of breed is your pup? Any for sale you recommend?
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Post by: BUFF on May 10, 2012, 04:08:00 PM: Mine is mostly Blue Lacy
The dog that won the Masters at the field trial was mostly Lab
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Post by: KOOK68 on May 10, 2012, 04:16:00 PM: Lots of folks here in South Louisiana art getting into it. Mostly Labs and Laceys.
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Post by: snakebit40 on May 10, 2012, 04:22:00 PM: Never have but I think its a great idea. Last I knew KS has a law against taking a dog for blood trails. It could have changed or I may have been miss informed. I don't know why it would be illegal. Cool thread! :thumbsup: :campfire:
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Post by: awbowman on May 10, 2012, 05:00:00 PM: Love a blue lacy. Beautiful dogs. I have a couple of buddies that have them for tracking.

I've seen dogs find deer over 24 hours later.

It's getting fairly popular here in The Louisiana thickets
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Post by: Kip on May 10, 2012, 05:07:00 PM: Sonny found a deer I would surely have lost in the thick palmettoes.I hit her quarting about at last rib,got stomach and piece of it plugged entrance.No exit but massive damage inside.Kip
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Post by: on May 10, 2012, 05:10:00 PM: I do not believe that tracking dogs are legal in Iowa, I am not sure why. I know that even a dog trained for pheasants can find a lost deer. Perhaps they are thinking they are given a new freedom when they are allowed to follow a blood trail.
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Post by: pdk25 on May 10, 2012, 05:11:00 PM: I have tracked and found alot of animals, but don't claim to be very good at it. RC has much better eyes for it than me. If I shoot one in the evening and can't find a trail, rather than mess up the trail I just give it some time and get my german shepherd. He hasn't failedme yet. It is especially helpful on a fat hog that doesn't want to cooperate and give a nice blood trail.
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Post by: Frenchymanny on May 10, 2012, 06:27:00 PM: Nice, loving them working dogs (and all dogs, too :) )

:thumbsup:

F-Manny
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Post by: Green Mountain Boy on May 10, 2012, 08:07:00 PM: I haven't needed to use them yet but we have quite a network of leashed tracking dogs registered with the state. In fact they are listed on our F&W website. Nice to know that they are there.
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Post by: Blaino on May 10, 2012, 08:15:00 PM: Very cool topic Buff. I think everything is better when dogs are envolved! What is a "Blue Lacy"? A Beagel mix maybe?
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Post by: on May 10, 2012, 08:15:00 PM: I have a dog named Tracker but she is not yet trained. I got her with the intent of training her. I stsrted her real young but she would mot follow the blood; she would just sit down and lick on it when she got to the blood. I still want to give her a go in the woods but she is mama's little baby now and every time I mention taking her to the lease I get that "look" from my wife.

Oh yeah, Tracker is a miniature daschund.

Bisch
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Post by: BUFF on May 10, 2012, 08:22:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Blaino:
Very cool topic Buff. I think everything is better when dogs are envolved! What is a "Blue Lacy"? A Beagel mix maybe?
No it is a breed of dogs. They are the state dog of Texas
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Post by: huntmaster80 on May 10, 2012, 08:27:00 PM: that is awesome. Now my wife wants to get a blue lacy!!!!!
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Post by: TxAg on May 10, 2012, 08:51:00 PM: I like the looks of your dog Buff. I followed a trail with Ron's lab/ blackmouth cur cross this past season. She was incredible.

A good tracking dog is worth an awful lot come deer season.
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Post by: straitera on May 10, 2012, 09:09:00 PM: None w/mine yet Buff but others. Nothing gets by a good dog's nose! Great looking dogs folks. Great story Kip!
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Post by: RC on May 10, 2012, 09:30:00 PM: My Buddy Keith Bruner "Mudfeather" has a Dauschhound...bad speller that finds lots of deer.Another Bud has a treeing fiest that finds deer.I am thinking of getting a trail dog but prefer a smaller pup.RC
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Post by: joebuck on May 10, 2012, 10:03:00 PM: We have Blue Lacys and Blue dogs at our club. Blue dog is what I really want. however extremely hard to get a Blue dog. however..".............???

My lab has found several deer in 2 years. I working him now on a cloths line and blood with bites of liver every 10 feet. I taught him how to bark at dead deer. I basically trained him on treats....

I love hunting dogs and working them into my Bowhunting is a plus.

He can find a wounded turkey in a cut over in a heart beat.
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Post by: Bladepeek on May 10, 2012, 10:26:00 PM: Those of you living in states where tracking dogs are not allowed, don't give up. Michigan banned all dog tracking - -visions of dogs running deer I guess. One very dedicated and knowledgeable individual got Michigan's law turned around with a lot of education and lobbying. Michigan allows tracking with a dog on leash (which is the only way I would work mine anyway). They just don't allow carrying a weapon (bow or gun) while tracking. A few more years and that should be corrected I imagine.

United Blood Trackers (google it) has a great web site with tracking dog owners willing to track other hunter's wounded deer listed by state.

I'm an old man with bad knees, so I got one with legs a LOT shorter than mine :D
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Post by: twitchstick on May 10, 2012, 10:32:00 PM: This will be the frist year it is legal in Utah. I have a dachshund that might just get his frist chance this year. I have never trained him officially but he is O.C.D with wild game. I let him retrive a rabbit that was doing the death squill in front of my daughter when she was very young. Ever since he has been O.C.D. It's hard to shoot any kind of weapon around him because he thinks something is going to be dead. He has been know to retrive lead from a gun shot hundreds of yards out and always gaurds the meat pole like nothing other. I really think that this has been a silly law that has keep a good dog from doing his destiny. I hope to give the old boy a chance this upcoming season for his sake.
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Post by: Converml on May 10, 2012, 11:41:00 PM: Haven't yet. Here(NY) we can if we lose a blood trail but we have to call one in
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Post by: Night Wing on May 11, 2012, 07:37:00 AM: Since I shoot low poundage recurves, all of my shots are 20 yards or less and I wait for my favorite broadside lung shot. If one of my self imposed parameters isn't there, I let the animal walk.

With the above two parameters in place, I get very good blood trails and no animal goes far without lungs. For this reason, I don't need a tracking dog.
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Post by: Ryan Rothhaar on May 11, 2012, 08:57:00 AM: Yep, into it bigtime! We love tracking. Search "Oskar" on here and you'll find some threads. We've found 24 deer in the first 3 years with our standard smooth Euro. Dachshund that my wife trained.

PAVAN - its legal in Iowa now. Last year was the first year. I was involved a little bit with that over the last couple years.

Ryan
Title: Re: How many use tracking dogs after the shot
Post by: BUFF on May 11, 2012, 09:20:00 AM: I envey you night wing. I have a hard time with the blood trail even if it gushing from my 1-7/8" cut GK heads.
When I had kids at home, I would just go get one of them. They grew up and moved away so I guess I traded my kids for a dog.
Taken as a whole, she is alot less trouble.
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Post by: Atennishu on May 11, 2012, 12:45:00 PM: We dont have a dog for tracking, but if we have trouble finding a deer, we cross the creek and get my father in law, he is unbelievable at tracking, even at 71 his eyes see things that I cant see.
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Post by: joebuck on May 11, 2012, 01:05:00 PM: My tracking dog doesn't discriminate between bow and gun shot deer. if your a dog person like I am, we go help anyone that needs it.
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Post by: hybridbow hunter on May 11, 2012, 01:25:00 PM: Here in France, dog specially brought up to follow blood tracks are very popular and in each part of the country you can find a dog along with his owner who will gladly come if you need. They are all members of a specific association working with hunters (rifle and bow). For us it is really a part of the hunt, very interesting and informative.
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Post by: Don Batten on May 11, 2012, 08:37:00 PM: Joey, your Lab sure can sniff out a rock roller.

Night Wing, glad to here of your success. How many deer you kill last year?
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Post by: tippit on May 11, 2012, 08:55:00 PM: They aren't legal in Mass..but it is legal to walk your dog on a leash. I seem to take a few walks late at night in the woods with my two Dachshunds (Tilly & Cash)...tippit

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Post by: Night Wing on May 11, 2012, 09:43:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by batman:
Night Wing, glad to here of your success. How many deer you kill last year?
I didn't kill any deer last year.

The severe drought in Texas took it's toll on our deer population. Our daily summer temperatures were around 103-106 degrees everyday from late May through August of 2011. Also, we had severe fires that wiped out thousands of acres where I hunt. One such fire crept to within 300 yards of my home in southeast Texas north of Houston. I didn't see any deer during daylight hours during the hunting season. Only saw them at night and they were far and few inbetween when they were crossing roads.

Lastly, we have the "Rule of 13" for antler restrictions in some Texas counties and I live and bowhunt in these counties where the rule is enforced. Where I live in southeast Texas, our deer have high basket type racks so a mature deer sometimes won't have an inside spread of 13". In essence, TPW made our once legal buck deer, are now illegal to shoot because they won't make the inside rule spread. BTW, I'm no fan of antler restriction rules.

Got anymore questions since I think you're implying something?
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Post by: Don Batten on May 11, 2012, 10:04:00 PM: Joe, not implying anything. I didn't kill a deer last year either. Sorry if you missed my meaning. I'd invite you to take a chance on winning our turkey hunt on the st judes auction. would be a great time. Don
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Post by: zipper bowss on May 11, 2012, 10:14:00 PM: I bring out the dog regardless of how good the shot is. Just love to watch him do his job.
Bill
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Post by: Breeze430 on May 11, 2012, 10:25:00 PM: Night wing, do you hunt Sam Houston or Crockett? I know there were bad fires in both places.
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Post by: Night Wing on May 12, 2012, 08:10:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by batman:
Joe, not implying anything. I didn't kill a deer last year either. Sorry if you missed my meaning. I'd invite you to take a chance on winning our turkey hunt on the st judes auction. would be a great time. Don
Even if I won, it's too far to travel for me.
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Post by: Night Wing on May 12, 2012, 08:22:00 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Breeze430:
Night wing, do you hunt Sam Houston or Crockett? I know there were bad fires in both places.
I bowhunt in the Magnolia/Tomball area which is about 38 miles north northwest of Houston. Our area got devastated by the drought first and then the very bad fires. I'm lucky the fires didn't burn down my home. I tend to stay away from the public land of Sam Houston since it's hunted very hard.

This spring, with the new growth coming up after the fires, I still haven't seen very many deer tracks. I think the drought got our deer in our area.

I feed corn on my property (I don't hunt the animals which come to the the corn) and the only animals in numbers eating the corn are fox and gray (cat) squirrels.

I think it will take 2-4 years for our deer population to come back to it's former self while hoping another severe drought doesn't return for this summer.

We still have our feral hogs though, but even their population has been hurt by the drought and fires.
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Post by: joebuck on May 12, 2012, 03:02:00 PM: So what breeds do most of you own that cold/blood track?

I remember a choc lab at Willow Point in 80s named Buster that was a phenom.

I am very interested in the short and wire hair dachshund or lacys. Especially since they don't shed.

I have read the bible of tracking dogs. " tracking wounded deer " by John J. ? Great book. About 400 Pages
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Post by: Yohon on May 12, 2012, 03:13:00 PM: (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v239/yohon/IMG_0075.jpg)
Just getttin into it myself, this black mouth cur pup of mine was just a couple months old and lead my wife right to this doe.....looking forward to this fall!
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Post by: tippit on May 12, 2012, 03:20:00 PM: Joey,
My two Dachshunds (smooth & wire-haired) are out of the Jeanneney line. Great noses and super pets.

Tilly...the Mom

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Cash...Tilly's pup on top

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Post by: wingnut on May 12, 2012, 03:23:00 PM: I would love to have a good blood dog. Only problem is I don't get to hunt enough to keep one trained.

Mike
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Post by: awbowman on May 12, 2012, 03:48:00 PM: Had a buddy just pick up a black mouth cur a couple of days ago. Nice dogs
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Post by: zipper bowss on May 12, 2012, 05:27:00 PM: This is Tanner.He he was a sister to Tippit's Cash.
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Tanner is gone but we now have Moe. Moe is also a wirehair dachshund. I dont have any pictures of Moe on tracks. He is 10 months old now and just waiting on me to lay out some practice trails for him. As usual I'm the slacker :D Moe was on a couple of real tracks this past winter.Good short starter tracks with lots of blood.I'm sure it will not take much to get him going good.
Bill
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Post by: jonsimoneau on May 12, 2012, 05:39:00 PM: I had a wirehair dachshund bred for tracking. He was unbelievable. He found deer that would never have been recovered. Unfortunately, one of my roomates at the time accidentaly left the front door cracked and he ran out to chase a squirel and was struck by a car. Sad day. I keep thinking I'll get another one but just don't have the time right now to devote to training one. They have become very popular and I think it is a good idea for bowhunters to know who has one in the area you are hunting in case you need it. I keep a list in my truck with phone numbers for guys who have them. Thankfully, I have not had to call any of them, but its good insurance.
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Post by: zipper bowss on May 12, 2012, 06:48:00 PM: Hey, Jon. Thats a very similar story as to how we lost Tanner. Sometimes prey drive can get you in big trouble!
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Post by: owlbait on May 12, 2012, 08:37:00 PM: My daughter has a female out of the Jeannenay line and has done well on bloodtrails. She also picked up a male from another breeder. The male was in on a few tracks last year. Now they have pups due! I'd love one but my Mastiffs would think they were chew toys!!
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Post by: zipper bowss on May 12, 2012, 08:57:00 PM: OHHH, Come on Mike!My Mastiff loves Moe. They are big buddies. When its cold outside the Mastiff curls up and Moe climbs up on top of him to sleep. They both stay warm that way. IT'S A SITE! :laughing: I think I have a picture of it on my phone. I'll see if I can find it.
Bill
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Post by: zipper bowss on May 12, 2012, 09:15:00 PM: Here is you go, Mike. Brutus and Moe racked out in the bow shop.
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Post by: pdk25 on May 13, 2012, 12:27:00 AM: Now that's a great pic!
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Post by: OrTrail on May 13, 2012, 08:11:00 AM: BUFF, I can relate to your color blind problem. Being able to track with a dog would be a great help. Oregon also has a law against it, where California allows them for "jump" hunting. Not much good for archery.

If you're a flat lander I suppose a perfect shot is possible. I have seen one of our Blacktails take a leap at a heart shot, and land hundreds of feet below, over a cliff.

Molly would do the job (we're just hiking here) but no such luck in Oregon. Actually she's too short legged, the blow downs are sometimes 4or5 ft. high.
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Post by: FerretWYO on May 13, 2012, 11:43:00 AM: This is interesting I use my dogs before the shot mostly. :bigsmyl: