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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Tajue17 on September 23, 2012, 09:02:00 AM
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have to pick your brains here folks, I have two dozen arrows coming from a sponser here and he says he'll be close but won't hit that weight with these arrows?
what I need is a 28 1/2" 5/16 wood arrow that spines 45-46-47 and has a total finished weight of 525-535 grains using a 125gr head,,,, does anyone know how I can achieve this because most arrow makers say no way it needs to be 11/32 but 11/32's do not hit as good out of this bow a 1952 kodiak but need help with this one, send or PM me any arrow makers names links anything!
I guess my fall back is carbons which I din't want to shoot from this bow... I already know the heritage 90's get way too point heavy when I get the spine at what works but the point weight is way too heavy at that point at around 300grains which I don't mind from my fast recurves but this bow Its too much.
who knows about the heritage 70's or a comparable "traditional looking" carbon arrow wikth a light deflection comparable to a 45lb spine wood arrow yet have a finished weight of 525 to 535 grs, I could use weedwacker line too to bring up the weight and not effect the spine if I found the right carbon.
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You can get that heavy an arrow with laminated birch shafts.
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I Have some C/E heritage 75 cut 30 in, with a heavy point and insert combo wt of 230gr. total wt with 5 1/2 in ,3 fletch comes in around 528-532. They shoot really well from my banshee pulling 44 @ 28 .... I do put on a painted cap also..
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killinstuff--> the birch shafts come in 5/16 diameter??
tbird--> whats the banshee is it a hybird bow, FF string? the bows I'm using for this set-up would be in the B-50 soft reflex/deflex catagory but I'll check into some test shafts and see,,, also does anyone make heavy brass inserts for the heritage 75's?
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no brass inserts for the 75's, but you can always get heavy points. Or, put the brass in a drill and file them slightly until they fit.
bigjim
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Originally posted by BigJim:
no brass inserts for the 75's, but you can always get heavy points. Or, put the brass in a drill and file them slightly until they fit.
bigjim
Hmm great idea I never thought of that,,,do the brass come in the heritage 90 size or just 11/32?
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Consider some 5/16" Hexshafts from Bob Burton at Whispering Winds Archery. These are heavier than POC shafts and I have had good luck with them out of my Super Shrew that is in the same draw weight range as your bow.
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Why do you need 530 grains and nothing else will do?
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Hickory, ash, or laminated birch.
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The 75's and 90's are the same inside diameter. They are offered in a 5/16 brass (this is the same used in the other CX sizes).
bigjim
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YOU can do a little of both . I shoot tapered wood shafts 11/32 to 5/16 my woods are 28 in long and with 145 grain heads weigh at a consistent 530 grains . I taper my own shafts and taper the top 14 inches most commercial tapered shafts are tapered only 10 inches that leaves a bit more wood so a bit more weight .
You get the best of both worlds you get the 5/16 clearance at the release and you get a more weight forward arrow . IN MY OPINION tapered woods shoot the best !!! They also match my 2018 aluminum's in weight exactly .
Just an idea on how to get the weight and have the 5/16th end you want for tuning .
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if you can find some compressed cedar or another hardwood..you could do it or another way is soak the shafts before making them in a watco oil finish for a few days and that way it would absorb and get a heavier weight
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I've done that for my 90's,took a 5/16" 50 gr. insert.I mounted a point in a drill and put on the 50 gr. insert and spun and filed to fit in my Heritage 90.It came out to around 42 grs. for the 50 gr. insert.I also file a taper from the shaft for a smooth fit from the shaft.
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Yes the lam birches come in 5/16. 3-Rivers sells them.
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5/16 ramin shafts would get you there, but I don't think you'd find any in that low of a spine....but if you left them longer they might still work for you