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Title: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Bob B. on October 08, 2012, 11:42:00 AM
How much time for the duco to set up when fletching on gasket laquer?

Bob.
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Roy from Pa on October 08, 2012, 12:51:00 PM
5 minutes should be fine.
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Fletcher on October 08, 2012, 01:03:00 PM
I give Duco 15 minutes.  Less may work with GL, but I've also had feathers move at 10 min.  Patience, Grasshopper.   :D
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Bob B. on October 08, 2012, 01:37:00 PM
Thanks fellas

Bob.
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Grey Taylor on October 08, 2012, 03:07:00 PM
I set a timer for eight minutes. When it goes off I rotate the shaft and glue on the new feather. Eight minutes isn't enough time for the glue to be fully cured but if I'm careful it's enough time for me to move the arrow in the jig.
If I use the timer it seems to go faster as I don't forget and go onto other things.

Guy
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Kelly on October 08, 2012, 08:12:00 PM
Well you guys maybe have success with such short time but I have set my timers at 30 minutes for decades-never ever had a feather come loose or move. Sure it may take me 3 times longer but I build arrows for a lifetime and slow and patience has always been my motto over quick and easy.

If one wants to do them fast use gel super glue or fletching tape.
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Grey Taylor on October 08, 2012, 09:13:00 PM
Perhaps I should clarify that the arrows are not *used* after the glue has set for eight minutes.
I don't use the arrows until the day after they are fletched.

Guy
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: rraming on October 08, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
If you are referring to moving the jig when fletching, I give each feather a few minutes to set up, like 3 or so. Then I move to the next feather. I don't use those finished arrows until the next day. Anything less than 2 minutes and they move, I do not use a bunch of glue either. Most of the time I have the shafts and feathers out and every once in awhile go do one, some may sit for an hour, some 5 minutes. I have never sat and stared at them waiting for one to dry, it's fill in time.
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Marc B. on October 08, 2012, 09:26:00 PM
I do a minimum of 20 minutes,
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Kelly on October 08, 2012, 10:26:00 PM
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Originally posted by Grey Taylor:
Perhaps I should clarify that the arrows are not *used* after the glue has set for eight minutes.
I don't use the arrows until the day after they are fletched.

Guy
Duh, that was understood!

Do whatever you think works best but the more helical one uses the longer the clamp needs to stay on. After nearly 50 years of making arrows I'm not about to change.
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Jim Wright on October 08, 2012, 10:27:00 PM
I have since gone to minwax wipe-on poly and Bohning tape but I had good success waiting 3 to 4 minutes before going to the next feather. I put a continuous THIN bead of Duco then a drop front and back and let them set for a day before shooting. The ones I still have are still on.
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Kelly on October 08, 2012, 10:31:00 PM
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Originally posted by Grey Taylor:
Perhaps I should clarify that the arrows are not *used* after the glue has set for eight minutes.
I don't use the arrows until the day after they are fletched.

Guy
Duh, that was understood!

Do whatever you think works best but the more helical one uses the longer the clamp needs to stay on. After nearly 50 years of making arrows I'm not about to change.
Title: Re: Duco and gasket laquer question.
Post by: Grey Taylor on October 08, 2012, 11:44:00 PM
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Originally posted by Kelly:
Duh, that was understood!

Do whatever you think works best but the more helical one uses the longer the clamp needs to stay on. After nearly 50 years of making arrows I'm not about to change. [/QB]
Just wanted to be sure we were on the same page, Kelly. It's all too easy to misunderstand things on one end or the other.

If I were doing a hard helical where I was really trying to bend the feather around the shaft I'd certainly go with a longer set time on the glue. While I use helical on arrows I build I'm really not trying to make the feather do yoga on the shaft so I've never felt the need for the glue to set longer before I take off the clamp.
I'm not trying to change your mind. You've got something that works great for the way you do things... just as I do   ;)  

Guy