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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: MCNSC on November 29, 2012, 09:02:00 PM
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I just got some new prescription glasses and I am shooting about 8 to 10 inches left and 6 to 8 inches high with them on. I can get good groups, the groups just move with the new glasses. I haven't been wearing glasses and can still see pretty good at a distance just can't see much at all close up. I really just got tired of looking for my reading glasses every time I need to see something up close. Really disappointed that the glasses mess up my shooting. I suppose I will adjust my shooting to compensate for the glasses but then I will have to have them on all the time when shooting.
Any one else have this happen with glasses?
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I found similar results with progressive lenses. I went back to tri-focals and all problems stopped. I cannot shoot well with the progressives (guns - yes) but not a bow.
FWIW.
Arne
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The size of my new glasses messed me up. I found myself above or below the bull. I went back to my old pair to shoot as i found myself avoiding the frames
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Progressive lens bugged me as well, finaly got a pair with just the distance presc. Works better for shooting just can't see things up real close.
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My lens are the progressive lens. I notice if I look at something and move my head down to look over the glasses the object seems to move down and right. Which I think causes the high left shooting.
Getting old is no fun!!
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You'll find that progressive bifocals will not work well for bow shooting. The bifocal part is very different in design and placement than the regular lined type of lens. Just had a chat with Linda Graham of Hummingbird bows yesterday--an IBO World champion--and she had her shooting go to pot when she got new glasses which were progressive lenses. She just got a pair of single vision glasses (made just for the distance correction) and got right back on target. People who shoot bows need to discuss their special needs with their eye doctor at the time of eye exams and new glasses. My son is an optometrist/archer and makes sure to inquire about special activities, hobbies, or sports involvement his patients have when he prescribes glasses for them--can make a big difference.
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My optometrist said the same thing. Stay with the lined bifocal to shoot a bow. He said when to turn your head to shoot, with the progressive lense when you look through the edge of the lense it will distort your vision. I use the lined bifocal and get along fine.
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The darn things not only mess with shooting they are hell with depth preception. I have taken more spills going down hill wearing progressives than I have in my life. Nothing like thinking I'm on level ground then picking myself off that hole I didn't see. My hunting buddies think it funny as hell. I've gotten now in the habit of looking over the top of them when in the woods.It's less of a pain than falling.
Next eye appt. I am going to get a extra pair for distance before I break my darn full neck.
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I'm still fighting this same thing! I now am wearing my single distance correction glasses so I can see stuff in the distance. I have a strap on them and slip them off before I shoot. I still shoot better without them on.
Benjy
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I've been wearing progressive lens bifocals for more than 15 years now, and still don't shoot with them on. I've tried, but hated it. Maybe the lined bifocals would be the answer - I may have to try that.
It used to be that I only needed glasses for the up close stuff. But I'm getting to where I can tell the difference at distance as well, and I know it's only a matter of time where I will need to learn to shoot with them on.
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Yep, I have progressive lens and have to make sure that I push them up on my nose to shoot accurately. Lined bifocal or single vision lens might be in my future. Good post!
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I have bifocals and it was real goofy trying to shoot a bow or to look though a rifle scope. Got used to it and now no problems. I hate those progressive gadgets.
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I was starting to have problem to focus well on the targets and while hunting,since I always hated to depend on things that you can forget,looseor fail I decided to submit me to a Lasik surgery.BEST thing I have ever did.perfect eyesight no more need of glasses,lenses and so on,as good as I was youger.Make your self a favor buy you a lasik surgery!
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Started wearing progressives 7 years ago and my shooting had never been worse. 2 years ago tried the distance only glasses and things got better but still did not like shooting with glasses, they just don't fit my form well. Last January I broke down and decided to wear contacts, best move I ever made. Now I'm shooting as I did in my 20's again.
The contacts have made so much of a difference in my shooting I'm actually considering following Felix and taking the Lasik route if I'm a candidate for it.
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Felix, did you have both your eyes the same or did you have mono?
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Single vision distance or contacts for hunting is the way I go. Progressives make me nausious on uneven ground and my shooting goes to pot. Even with lined bifocals I find I trip a lot in the woods. I've fallen over everything from a low fence in TX to a maple sugar line in PA. :)
My shooters are the simple plastic frames without nose pads. I need to have the frame right down on my nose or I will tend to look through the gap.
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I found that the shape of the glasses altered my head position when I got new frames. Might want to consider that possibility-- anchor point, etc all changed.
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I agree with the LASIK best money you can spend. I had it done probably 15 years ago, maybe more. My distance vision is still pretty good, to the point the doc said glasses would help some but not nesseary for distance. But, now my near vision has gotten bad. I have been wearing cheap reading glasses but got tired of looking for them all the time so went ahead and got the prescription glasses with the progressive lens. May try the lined bifocals, sounds like they may work better than the progressives.
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MCNSC: I understand that getting old is no fun. But, try to think of it this way.....aging is a gift not offered to everyone! I turn 69 today and there are things my body does that I don't like but the alternative is not a solution I would choose.
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I wasn't a candidate for Lasik, but contacts helped me out, and I take my glasses off to shoot. Never could get used to wearing any glasses while shooting my bows.
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I've been wearing progressive lenses for more than 15 years, and they really haven't affected my shooting. Now, I don't have a real strong prescription, and my lenses are not terribly large as to change my anchor, but they work just fine for me.
In fact, they may even help my shooting. When I don't turn my head enough toward the target and instead look across the lense rather than straight through it, there is some distortion. That's a signal for me to turn my head more toward the target. In effect, the progressives help make sure I don't align my eyes improperly on the target.
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Happy birthday, Bill. You caught up with me! :wavey:
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I got progressive lenses about five months ago and my shooting has really improved. They work great for me.
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I have progressive lens and at anything over 15 yards is fuzzy and some tomes I can't focus. I put and old pair of single vision on and everything from 5 yards to what ever distance so far are focused. I guess I'm lucky I only need the progressive for reading. I will use single vision for bow shooting. with rifles progressive are fine.
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i use an old pair of glasses that don't have bifocals for shooting traditional and progressive for guns and such
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Done that. You do eventually get used to them. I have the progressive bifocals and they messed me up big time initially. Whenever I change frames as well.
Next time explain to your optician (and again to the folks who fit your for the frames and lenses) that you need the widest possible field for focusing on an object that you are not facing. They default that you will always be pointing your nose right where you are focusing. We do not.
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I have worn glasses most of my life, been wearing bifocals for the last 10 years, never had a problem shooting my bows.
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I have 20/20 eyes with just a slight astigmatism, but anything under 4 feet is a mystery until I have readers on. I have progressive lenses, larger size, that do not affect my shooting right handed, but I hate them. The progressive part is very small and I have to tilt my head back when at the computer and I cannot read sheet music because the zone is too small. Shooting left handed the edge of the glasses blocks one eye, my head does not turn far enough to the right. getting old and blind is a bitch.
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Originally posted by Orion:
I've been wearing progressive lenses for more than 15 years, and they really haven't affected my shooting. Now, I don't have a real strong prescription, and my lenses are not terribly large as to change my anchor, but they work just fine for me.
In fact, they may even help my shooting. When I don't turn my head enough toward the target and instead look across the lense rather than straight through it, there is some distortion. That's a signal for me to turn my head more toward the target. In effect, the progressives help make sure I don't align my eyes improperly on the target.
Wow, thanks for posting that. I was starting to think I was some sort of freak, but that has been exactly my experience with them. My cousin has been wearing progressives for years and shoots great with them, which is why I switched from traditional trifocals to progressives. I like the darned things.
The only problem I have with any glasses is fogging once the weather cools, especially if I am wearing a balaclava. I tried contacts, and they do work well for shooting and not fogging. The problem is I can't see close up with them: cell phone, compass, etc. Field dressing game with a razor sharp knife and blurry vision is also kind of scary! If fogging becomes an issue, I take my glasses off. Then I'm fine until dusk. :mad:
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I shoot with progressive lenses, but after reading this post I think that I will try distance only lenses.
Then again . . . I won't be able to blame those shots on those darn lenses.
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Thanks for the inmput guys. I just got these new glasses and wanted to see how I could shoot with them. Really glad I did before wearing them hunting. Thankfully my distance vision is good enough that I don't need the glasses for hunting. I will give the glasses a better chance, like mentioned maybe if I don't turn my head as much they will work ok.
I really thought something had changed on my bow. Arrows were grouping fine, just not where they were supposed to be. Took off the glasses and the arrows were right back where they were supposed to be.
Mike