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Title: Wood shaft straighteners ?
Post by: Blaino on December 28, 2012, 08:31:00 PM
I got a gift card to 3 River's thats burning up my pocket!

Looking for some feed back for a new guy to wood.

1) shaft tamer.  http://www.3riversarchery.com/Shaft+Tamer_i5290_baseitem.html
Or
2) Roll-r-straight  http://www.3riversarchery.com/Ace+Roll-R-Straight_i5901_baseitem.html
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Post by: nineworlds9 on December 28, 2012, 08:34:00 PM
I have heard from a fella that you can go to Lowe's or the Depot, buy a cast pulley that accepts 3/8" rope..and spend $4 and get to work straightening on a nice hard perfectly flat surface.  By all means anyone who has tried this please chime in and confirm...
Title: Re: Wood shaft straighteners ?
Post by: Blaino on December 28, 2012, 08:39:00 PM
$4 is what I'm talkin bout!
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Post by: David Mitchell on December 28, 2012, 09:19:00 PM
I really like the Shaft Tamer--works great.
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Post by: Bud B. on December 28, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
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Title: Re: Wood shaft straighteners ?
Post by: Biathlonman on December 28, 2012, 09:51:00 PM
Yeah that was just on one of the other boards, need to pick one up myself.  Said it was $4.26 and listed as a 2" pulley for 3/8" rope.
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Post by: Orion on December 28, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
The two you have listed operate the same.  I have the Rol-R-Straight and like it.  The pulley idea is intriguing though, and a whole lot cheaper.
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Post by: JRY309 on December 28, 2012, 11:11:00 PM
I prefer the hook straightner that I bought from the guy that makes the Woodchuck taper machine.
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Post by: D on December 28, 2012, 11:19:00 PM
lol I always just used my hand...
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Post by: meathead on December 28, 2012, 11:22:00 PM
The Ace tool works great, but most of the time I just use the edge of my work bench.  I don't have to search for it.  I never can remember where I put that straightner.
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Post by: Bjorn on December 28, 2012, 11:31:00 PM
Where is everybody getting all the crooked shafting? LOL
I only shoot wood and spend just about zero time straightening shafts. Fingers are quite adequate when I do find the occasional crooked woodie. IMO
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Post by: AkDan on December 29, 2012, 05:00:00 AM
Some heat and your hands is all you need!  On finished I just use my hands.
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Post by: Jim Wright on December 29, 2012, 08:27:00 AM
If you have decent shafts your hands work fine.
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Post by: centaur on December 29, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Bjorn:
Where is everybody getting all the crooked shafting? LOL
I only shoot wood and spend just about zero time straightening shafts. Fingers are quite adequate when I do find the occasional crooked woodie. IMO
X2. I can't remember when I last had to straighten a shaft, and I have shot wood forever.
Title: Re: Wood shaft straighteners ?
Post by: 2treks on December 29, 2012, 08:38:00 AM
Bjorn, my question is  Where are you getting your straight shafting? lol
Seriously tho, I always used my hands and that made me happy.
Then I met Rick Stillmen and his wood arrows rolled like carbon. I have never made a shaft that straight. He uses a hook.

By the way, for a doller you can go to the hardware store and buy a cup hook and screww it into a scarp of wood and be ready to go.
Or look into the how to section and I think Guru show his high tech screw driver method. works good as well.
 http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000060

Now I use the ACE Roller straight,because it is cool, and it wont monkey up my finish to bad if at all. some times a hook will cause a scuffin'

CTT
Title: Re: Wood shaft straighteners ?
Post by: Orion on December 29, 2012, 08:50:00 AM
Hands work good for those gentle bends or bows.  The roller works better/easier when the bends are near the ends of the shaft. Hook or any rounded steel shaft like a screw driver also works.  I'm less likely to mar the arrow finish with a roller type strightener, and that's why I use one.
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Post by: AkDan on December 29, 2012, 11:10:00 AM
even for the bad shafts....heat works miracles!  You can bend them almost into pretzels lol.  

I did buy the matlock straightener but have yet to use it.  its a hook like TT mentioned.
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Post by: jonsimoneau on December 29, 2012, 03:02:00 PM
Blow dryer and a screw driver works well.
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Post by: M60gunner on December 29, 2012, 03:11:00 PM
I have both of those straighteners. The Ace works well and is small enough for your pocket. I also have found the shafts I am buying these days need less attention. The shaft tamer came in handy when I tried to make arrows with shafts from the home center.
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Post by: Matty on December 29, 2012, 03:47:00 PM
So all this being said. And me being a carbon shooter.  How straight does wood and carbon NEED TO BE.. In other words. Is there an acceptable level of bend?
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Post by: Orion on December 29, 2012, 04:41:00 PM
Most carbons specify .006 tolerance.  Some are .003 and the real expensive ones are .001.  I don't find it difficult to get wood to .006.  On the other hand, wood is often bent in the field from shooting, incorrectly pulling it from targets, etc.  The nice thing about wood is it will fly straight even when the shaft isn't, provided, of course, the nocks and points are on straight.  

Also, wood has a tendency to shoot itself straight.  If it's not bent too badly, just a bow in the shaft, for example, it will often straighten out through shooting.  Doesn't always work, but does quite often.  I think the flexing the arrow goes through tends to equalize the forces within the wood, thus straightening it out.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: kbetts on December 29, 2012, 06:00:00 PM
I have two....a knot hole on the edge of my work bench that has a nice groove in it and a small utility hook screwed into an antler.  Only ones I'll ever need.
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Post by: BRITTMAN on December 29, 2012, 07:21:00 PM
I have whats left of 2 diffrent doz arrows i bought from elite arrows . Ive had the arrows for over 3 years and have never had to straighten any of them although ive broken quiet afew shooting and hunting . Best wood arrows i know of ,
Mike
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Post by: BRITTMAN on December 29, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
I have whats left of 2 diffrent doz arrows i bought from elite arrows . Ive had the arrows for over 3 years and have never had to straighten any of them although ive broken quiet afew shooting and hunting . Best wood arrows i know of ,
Mike
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Post by: BRITTMAN on December 29, 2012, 07:23:00 PM
That needed to be told twice i guess LOL
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Post by: Tim Finley on December 29, 2012, 07:50:00 PM
My buddy uses an aliminum arrow straightner the one with the dial they work great.
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Post by: 2treks on December 29, 2012, 08:26:00 PM
Brittman, I think this is what Paul uses at Elite Arrows
 http://graylingoutdoorproducts.com/support_straight.html
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Post by: Larry m on December 29, 2012, 09:23:00 PM
Sight down and use the rounded shaft of a screw driver on the high side of the arrow prior to put together. When in use I hand tweak a bit as they get off just to keep them consistent. It's like poetry in motion with good flight!!!!
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Post by: Stumpkiller on December 29, 2012, 09:41:00 PM
I use a pair of 1" dowels.  One with a hole and a strong screw-eye and the other with two slots.  I can apply pressure or rub along a shaft to take out kinks.  The inside of the heavy screw-eye works like the screwdriver shaft trick without leaving a flat spot on the shaft.  

With Surewood Douglas fir I have yet to find a shaft that couldn't be straightened with the heel of my palm.

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Title: Re: Wood shaft straighteners ?
Post by: Larry m on December 30, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
Good One Stumpy!
I just might have to copy that....
Thanks  :)