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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: OregonBlacktail on February 01, 2013, 11:40:00 AM
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I currently have an Morrison Gen2 ILF riser paired with TT ExtremeBF limbs. It has all the performace anyone would want and then some but the ILF luster has worn off. I liked the adjust ability at first but it's just to much. I'm never sure if it's set up right, do I have enough tiller, where do I want to set the plunger ect... The bow shoots great and I dont have any real issues but I just can't leave it alone, I'm always messing with it. So, the question is what longbows will give me the performance of my morrison in a one piece, shoot off the shelf set up. I would like to trade my set up if possible. I know Centaur is one but what about some others?
Thanks
Mike
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Arrow speed is just one part of the total performance. Feel, balance, fun, looks, fun, accuracy, quietness all come in. Sounds to me like you need a Northern Mist Whisper or a Robertson Purist or a St. Charles yew, so you can have a completely new path to walk when you want.
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I'm a recurve shooter too and of the lonbows I've had the only one I really wish I'd kept was a Griffin by John McCullough. It's a hybrid design and mine was a 64" bow. Probably the quietest bow I've ever had once it was tuned up.
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If your looking for performance try shooting an A&H ACS CX ...
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I went from a recurve to a Toelke Whip, 64", and I love it.
You will get lots of different recommendations... good luck in your quest!
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You will get lots of different recommendations...
That's what I'm looking for. Thanks for your input.
Mike
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Check out the Stalker. I have a three piece but I know South makes a one piece. I chrono'd it last week. 191 fps 62 " 50#@28 450 gr arrow. That is within a hair of a Centaur.
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Check out the Stalker. I have a three piece but I know South makes a one piece. I chrono'd it last week. 191 fps 62 " 50#@28 450 gr arrow. That is within a hair of a Centaur.
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Sorry about the double post.
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Cari-Bow Peregrine, Dryad orion with the ACS CG longbow limbs, Talltines, Stalker, Eaglewing, Bigfoot, Centaur, Habu...these are just a few of the longbows i own or have owned that are high performance longbows. There are others, but any of these will fit what you are looking for. If you can try a few, that would be the best way to find out. Performance wise, they are all close.
Good luck in your search!
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The two on the top of my list is Thunderhorn Heartstopper, and Centaur.
As far as performance goes, in general, a highly deflex,reflex longbow will be a faster bow than lets say a straight limb longbow. I beleive shorter limbs are also faster.
Performance for me is not high on my list although important. My preference is along the lines of comfortable,stable,well balanced,quiet,little handshock.
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Been there with that same thing. Look at hybrid LB's they will give you recurve performance and shorter lengths plus grips more like a recurve. you can go three piece and get a recurve grip or one piece bows for a little bit of a recurve grip like the ACS, Shrew, whip, Kanati and many others.
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If your dead set on a longbow the whip is a great choice but why not stick with a recurve, Tolke would be a great choice again.
I've spent the last three years trying to make the longbow switch but always could just pick up my recurve and shoot better, so now I've gone back to the recurve.
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There are so many good ones it can be a challenge. You really need to shoot as many as you can and see what suits your tastes individual preferences are all over the place. Pick a price point and have at it what one person likes will be rejected by another. Being in OR you are lucky as there are some of the best bowyers right in your state-go visit!
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Cari-bow Peregrine is worth a look.
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You might check out the "aggressive r/d hybrid longbow appreciation thread. These bows might be good transition bows from a recurve.
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I'm not bead set on a longbow. I just seam to like them better than the recurve but its not by much.
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I'll throw my hat in ,These are the first three shots out of this bow by the new owner. Check out the site, God bless you , Steve
(http://eaglewingarchery.i8.com/images/ricks/rickspics5.JPG)
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Test a few out is the only way you can know for sure if a bow is the bow for you..
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your looking at a 3 piece longbow if you want something that is remotely similar in feel to what you're shooting now. And boy are there some nice ones out now, I've shot the RER vortex 2, very nice, and Stalkers looked great at KZOO. Oh and then you could just stay ILF and get a fixed wood riser and longbow limbs and still have a weight and tiller adjustment with limb swapping capabilities so you could keep your recurve limbs. Confused yet? I thought about selling my morrison gen 2 riser but i've never been able to tune a bowfishing arrow to hit where i wanted so its staying put.
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I know that my Kanati performs very close to the Predator recurves that I have owned. I mean VERY close! Like within just 3-4 fps. And, yes, I have a very accurate chronograph. And I used the same arrow in each bow and the Predator was just one pound less draw weight so both setups were almost exactly the same.
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Cari-Bow
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I have always been a recurve shooter and I bought some of Morrison's max1 limbs but waiting on a gen 3 riser. My other bow is a A&H ACS CX.
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In the performance department, I think you get to look at Bigfoot bows and A&H, form what I read, there is a lot of performance in these bows... But I never tried one of either...
I love my Hill style LB, but I'm sure that they are faster bows out there... But non better shooters!
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Northern Mist Shelton
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I am surprised no one has yet mentioned a Holm-Made Osprey. Great price on a great bow that is very fast, light, etc. Chad Holm can add a BowBolt to make it a 2-piece that is practically indistinguishable from a 1-piece except that it can be taken apart for travel. I love Shrew bows, and Gregg Coffey also makes his line of Javaman bows, but they aren't known for the speed you seem to be after. Same thing with a number of wonderful longbows that sacrifice a bit of speed for other great qualities. Don't get too worked up over your quest for speed -- none of our stick bows are all that fast compared to compounds, but they make up for more modest velocities in many other ways! There are many good bows listed here. Shoot as many different bows as you can get your hands on and decide what works best for you. Speed doesn't kill -- accurate shooting does!
Allan
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Originally posted by ishoot4thrills:
I know that my Kanati performs very close to the Predator recurves that I have owned. I mean VERY close! Like within just 3-4 fps. And, yes, I have a very accurate chronograph. And I used the same arrow in each bow and the Predator was just one pound less draw weight so both setups were almost exactly the same.
That's impressive. The predator is also about 5-7 fps faster than other recurves. Which means the kanati is right up there in performance. Which one can you shoot more accurately?
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Originally posted by Nativestranger:
Originally posted by ishoot4thrills:
I know that my Kanati performs very close to the Predator recurves that I have owned. I mean VERY close! Like within just 3-4 fps. And, yes, I have a very accurate chronograph. And I used the same arrow in each bow and the Predator was just one pound less draw weight so both setups were almost exactly the same.
That's impressive. The predator is also about 5-7 fps faster than other recurves. Which means the kanati is right up there in performance. Which one can you shoot more accurately? [/b]
I shot both bows equally the same in accuracy. I just prefer the light mass weight of the Kanati for hunting.
Check my signature below for specs and note that I have a relatively short draw length and I use fairly heavy arrows for the amount of draw weight that I shoot.
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh472/ishoot4thrills/Kanati20Bow20021.jpg)
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You'll have a tough time beating a Flatliner for smooth shooting and performance....9gpp , 195 fps
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/SANY0051.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/SANY0046.jpg)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Flatliner/IMAG0209.jpg)
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Now we are seeing some real numbers. 195 at 9 gpp ain't too shabby. That is just right up there in the real world of bows that aren't hot rods made for s special contest.
Watch out though bro. I'm in the hunt. (Grin)
Nottttttttttttttttttt./ I would bet that the Flatliner is the hottest D shaped longbow out there/. By a long ways with those numbers.
God bless you all, Steve
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195 at 9 gpp is smoking even for a radical hybrid. Carbon limbs?
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With what draw length and draw weight is that 195 fps with?
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The flatliner looks interesting. What is the limb make up of the bow that gets 195 fps at 9 GPP and what would that bow get at 10 GPP?
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LEON STEWART
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Orrrr ZIPPER! For a more classic looking profile that RIPS def Leon though
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Zipper NITRO
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I made the switch 6 or 7 years ago. Was shooting a couple of Black Widow recurves, carbons, etc. Bought a Hill Wesely Special, cedar arrows, and have never enjoyed shooting so much. It took a little time to learn to shoot them, but once I did nothing else felt right except a hill stlyle bow. After 35 years of shooting and hunting with a bow, it was like finding the missing piece of the puzzle.
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Get a Stalker!!!!!!!!!
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Kirk; Is that at a 28" draw?
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Treadway longbow
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I've owned 2 Morrison recurves.Great bows.I now have a Silvertip,Zipper,and Stalker in a recurve.
I have a Habu Vyperkahn longbow that's has all the qualities of any recurve I've shot and have yet to shoot a bow that's more stable.
The best way to discribe this bow''Easiest bow too shoot accurately w/''.
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Look at a Holm-Made Osprey or Goshawk......
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I got this from Herb's website.
Pronghorn Reflex Deflex
The pronghorn is a lightweight, compact straight ended bow for the modern bowhunter who appreciates tradition, but wants up-to-date performance. Owners report hunting arrow speeds in the 190-200 foot-per-second range – with virtually no hand shock. It’s a pound and a quarter of fast-shooting easy-carrying reliability. Now available in a three piece takedown model. Each bow is handmade, one at a time, from design, to grinding of laminations, to shipment. Only one person handles each bow before it is delivered to your door. A Flemish Fast Flight String is standard with each bow, but I will substitute Dacron if requested.
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I have shot recurves all of my life. Some reason i had an urge to get a long bow. I got a Royal Crown made by Ron Fox from another tradganger. This is a hybrid long bow that has now become my go to bow. Simply Amazing.
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My Treadway black swamp #50@28".... :)
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Another recurve :)