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Title: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Ray Hammond on May 21, 2013, 01:07:00 PM
I first want to thank all of you who saw fit to join us for hunts at our special place on the Savannah River over the last four years.

Of all the benefits gained the most significant has been the many close and important friendships made on these hunts, and for that I am most grateful

Andrew Harper- the landowner- will be your host going forward.

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Dear Fellow Purists,

Ray and I want to thank all of you for your interest and support for Hog Heaven over these last four years. You have made it an ongoing operation that has introduced us to new friends and left us with memories of great weekends.

Ray and I have had a number of personal and business events in our lives that are necessitating some changes in Hog Heaven's operations. As you know, Ray has been operating the camp and hunting operation largely on his own. This has included correspondence, bookings, meeting you in Estill, cooking, hunting advice, hunting stories (some even true!), etc.  Because of expanded business and work opportunities, along with personal obligations, Ray will, for the most part, be taking leave from Hog Heaven and the BowCamp. He has had a fine four year run that has made Hog Heaven into a viable hunting operation. But between family, work, and a five hundred mile round trip, the BowCamp is eating up too much of his time.

Beginning September 1st, I will operate the BowCamp along with managing the hunting lands. A number of changes and improvements are in the works at this time. Some of them are

1.      http://huntwildthings.com/      is under construction and will be up and running soon.

2.Accommodations will be a separate bunkhouse with four sets of bunks and two full bathrooms for eight hunters.

3.A lodge with fireplaces, full kitchen, dining area, and porch on a 32 acre lake. (Bring your fishing gear!)

4.The lodge and bunkhouse are on an additional 350 acres of hunting land that is comprised of pine upland, hardwood forests, and swampland. This land is on the opposite side from the old camp (nearer to Estill) and has almost two miles of common border with the land you've been hunting.

5.More roads with better access to the Savannah River Swamp.

6.Plantings in fields and roadsides year round for hogs and deer. Also, plantings of hardwoods and fruit trees in the upland areas to enhance wildlife feedings in the piney areas.

7.Specific areas for tree stand and elevated hunting only.

8.Three day AND five day hunts will be available.

9.Expanded cooking and menus.

Again, I want to thank Ray and Mike for their hard work these last four years. The camp's "rustic" appearance and nature have been challenging for Ray and you, our guests.  Please continue visiting us this year in the South Carolina Lowcountry for a great experience.  

Thank all of you again for your interest and patronage in the past.

Sincerely,

Andrew Harper
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Izzy on May 21, 2013, 01:25:00 PM
News for sure. Family 1st Ray.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: stumpsniper on May 21, 2013, 01:54:00 PM
I hope you leave your potato salad recipe for Andrew!  We got the chance to meet Andrew when we were down in April and I look forward to coming down and hunting there again.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Bud B. on May 21, 2013, 02:17:00 PM
To say Andrew is a fine southern gentleman and exceptional cook is a huge understatement. Not a better host to be had.

Hope all goes well with you Ray. Your hostings at Hog Heaven were exceptional as well. I have very fond memories of my hunt there last year because of you, Andrew, and Larry Surtees.

I hope to revisit in the near future as retirement nears.

Bud
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Rick Butler on May 21, 2013, 02:17:00 PM
A lot of treasured memories and a lot of friendships made.  I will truly miss the old camp but after looking over the grounds and buildings at the new location, I look forward to hunting out of there in the future.
   Having met Andrew on a couple of occasions I'm sure the new camp will be a success.
  Ray, Thank-you sir for the good times and thanks for introducing us to the joys of Hog hunting. We'll be in touch!
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Mike Yancey on May 21, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
Guys, Andrew is a class act, you will be in good hands with him!
Mike
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Brock on May 21, 2013, 02:42:00 PM
Congrats on a break and some breathing room Ray....and to you Andy for taking it to the next level based on the work and results of Ray.  I hope to get down there one day in the future for myself...

best of luck to all involved, past or future.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Red Beastmaster on May 21, 2013, 03:51:00 PM
I've spent six wonderful weekends in that old trailer. A small part of me will miss the old girl, even the dried up lizard caught in the spider web.  :)  Our hunts at Hog Heaven have been life changing for me and my friends. Very good times indeed!

Ray, you have been a wonderful host, guide, chef, and most of all FRIEND! I truely hope you and Mike can make it down when the Fa Kow Ee roll into camp. Good luck in your career and with your family now that you have some extra time.

Andrew, you too have become a good friend of the tribe. We are very anxious to visit your new facilities, share a campfire with you, and stalk the beautiful swamps. We will certainly be returning!

Dave Lohr
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: rbcorbitt on May 21, 2013, 05:34:00 PM
Ray,

Whew.  Didn't know how much longer I could keep it in!

Thanks for all that you have done, my friend.

Although my time with Andrew has been limited, I 100% agree that he is a class act and I, personally, look forward to the next chapter!

Ray - Hogzilla still has your name on it, and again, I think the idea of dousing Squirrel Bait with sow-in-heat urine will be your best bet at shooting that big bugger (the hog that is     :laughing:    ).

I have a personal request.  I would like to buy the "Don't Sit On Stove - HOT" sign to frame up and laugh about later!

Thanks, Big guy!  

Andrew - get ready for the hog killing to start again soon!

BC
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Butchie on May 21, 2013, 06:03:00 PM
Sure would like to do this sometime in the near future.  Sounds like a wonderful place, great hunting and even better folks.  Heck, my parents live in Aiken so I have a reason to get down there anyway.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: wapiti792 on May 21, 2013, 06:05:00 PM
Ray, thank you so much for the fun times I have had there! I know we spoke about this at the last visit, but there is something about those beautiful woods and swamp that becomes part of you. I think it is one of the greatest places on earth! Thanks for all you did my friend.

I look forward to going back and can't wait to see what Andrew has in store. Having gotten to visit with Andrew briefly I know that the operation is going to be first class. See you next spring!
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: smokin joe on May 21, 2013, 06:53:00 PM
Ray,
Thank you for your kind hospitality at Hog Heaven. Thanks also for the great stories, the hunting tips, the wonderful meals and for the recipe for your incredible pulled pork (yum). But thank you most of all for your friendship. You are, for sure, one of the good guys. I do hope our trails cross again as often as possible, and I truly mean that.

I know the place will be in good hands with Andrew. After chatting with him a bit and getting to know him a little the last couple of times I was there, it is clear why the two of you are such close friends.

Please stay in touch.
Joe
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: doug g on May 21, 2013, 07:19:00 PM
I believe this was Rick and my 5th time, hunting at Hog Heaven. We felt at home from day one, part of the family. Rick and I both brought our sons down there, we all fell in love with the place.

The memories will always be there, even when my mind is completely gone (Rick, Squirrel Bait, Thom and Ray can all tell ya that ain't far off).

We had the opportunity to look over the new site this weekend and it will be great. Andrew is a super guy (cant wait to taste his cooking)and will be a great host. It will be a change I will miss seeing Ray's smiley face, but look forward to seeing Andrew's. (Ray does Andrew hug?)

New name, new sleeping quarters, but still HOG HEAVEN. I have meet some of the finest folks there, had a blast every single time and look forward to continue the yearly trek down there.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Izzy on May 21, 2013, 08:30:00 PM
Doug, lets go get matching Ray tattoos and we'll always see Rays smiling face. I too had good times there. I'll miss ya big fellas but I'll take your word and entrust my time and money to your friend Andrew. Did you two grow up on Long Island together?    :campfire:
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Izzy on May 21, 2013, 08:32:00 PM
And Doug, I remember pulling into BoBops on my 1st HH trip. Lo and behold, theres a fella sharpening a HH head with a file in the parking lot. Right there I said, this must be the place.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: DDyer on May 21, 2013, 08:53:00 PM
Great memories of Ray,Mike,and Hog heaven. Family first Ray. Stay well,
Dan
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: doug g on May 21, 2013, 10:12:00 PM
I forgot about that Izzy, hows your cuz?
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Izzy on May 21, 2013, 10:16:00 PM
He's  good. He speaks of you often, that weekend had a tremendous impact on his hunting career.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: doug g on May 21, 2013, 10:27:00 PM
Good or bad??   :laughing:
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Izzy on May 21, 2013, 10:30:00 PM
All good, we did some big time laughing and enjoyed every minute hunting and sharing camp with you Up North folks.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: rbcorbitt on May 22, 2013, 06:14:00 AM
Izzy,

None of my beeswax    ;)   , but...

Wouldn't a Ray tattoo have to be one of those full body things?
   :biglaugh:   !!
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: kbetts on May 22, 2013, 07:25:00 AM
I've been twice and was fortunate enough to meet Andrew and Harry on the second trip.  The fact that Andrew is now the man doesn't concern me in the least......fine gentleman.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Ray Hammond on May 22, 2013, 07:29:00 AM
Bob- yes a reticulared python
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: rbcorbitt on May 22, 2013, 07:38:00 AM
Ray - better that than one of those Andyconda thingees   :biglaugh:  !!
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: GRAYBEARD on May 22, 2013, 07:41:00 AM
Hey Ray,
Thanks for some good times with you and friends like the Surtees. Prayers for success with family and your other venture. Give my best to Mike.
God's Peace,
Jed
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: bruinman on May 22, 2013, 08:12:00 AM
Well I have only been down there a couple times, but it was fantastic both times. Ray you were indeed a great host, and friend. Your bag is in good hands and much appreciated. That trip is getting close. Thanks again for the good times. I did get to meet Andrew, and he is for sure a southern gentleman, and super nice guy. Hopefully I will be there many more times.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: sticksnstones on May 22, 2013, 08:32:00 AM
Ray, you are a great friend and I'm very thankful that I got to meet you through Hog Heaven. I look forward to hunting with you in the future when you don't have extra responsibilities around camp!

I've met Andrew and Harry, and last weekend I scoped out the new camp for a while. There are some renovations under way, but it looks like it will be a big upgrade from the old trailer, God bless her in all her glory.

I look forward to trying out Andrew's cooking, but I hope Ray left the secret recipe for the biscuits and gravy!!!
Thom
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Ray Hammond on May 23, 2013, 10:37:00 AM
My thanks to each of you for your kind words- I can tell you each of you got the short end of the stick on this deal....at least that's how I feel.

I'm glad to know each of you!
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Mike Vines on May 23, 2013, 02:24:00 PM
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Originally posted by Bud B.:
To say Andrew is a fine southern gentleman and exceptional cook is a huge understatement. Not a better host to be had.

Hope all goes well with you Ray. Your hostings at Hog Heaven were exceptional as well. I have very fond memories of my hunt there last year because of you, Andrew, and Larry Surtees.

I hope to revisit in the near future as retirement nears.

Bud
Bud, I couldn't agree with you more
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: kasey on May 23, 2013, 11:19:00 PM
Wow This MakeS ME Really Sad
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: kasey on May 23, 2013, 11:23:00 PM
Wow This MakeS ME Really Sad
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Ray Hammond on May 24, 2013, 07:35:00 AM
Why Kasey?  You won't miss me will ya? Must be Mikey!
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Kip on May 24, 2013, 08:24:00 AM
Hi Ray good luck in your endeavor.    The    great cooking and stories and singing made for fun and enjoyable camp life. Hope you won't be too busy to keep us posted on T.G. Take care Kip
   :wavey:    :thumbsup:    :campfire:
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Ray Hammond on May 24, 2013, 08:53:00 AM
I won't be a stranger, Kip! Speaking of cooking, when is your next trip down to camp going to be- I don't want to miss out on that gumbo or etufee!

Lawd, that was some fine eatin'!

I use your spice shake you gave me on my eggs every morning! Awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Kip on May 24, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
Ray I sure hope to get there some day soon but I have a couple of hunts on my bucket list (Antelope and or mule deer and elk and bear).Most beautiful swamp I had been in and I have seen a few in Louisiana but those cypress are a sight to behold.Kip
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Ray Hammond on May 24, 2013, 12:30:00 PM
Just so no one worries all new reservations are in Andrews hands. Let me know of your questions or concerns til his website is up and running
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Izzy on May 25, 2013, 01:47:00 PM
Any pics of the new digs floating around yet?
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: dragon rider on May 25, 2013, 05:56:00 PM
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Originally posted by kasey:
Wow This MakeS ME Really Sad
Likewise.  I'm sure Andrew is a fine man. I met his son once and if that's any indication he's a fine man indeed, and the place will be a much more upscale place from the sound of it, but it will no longer be Hog Heaven and that's sad.  But then, as a friend of mine says, 'If you're not a little sad about moving on, you wasted your time where you were" and spending time with Ray and Mike was sure as hell never time wasted.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Cyclic-Rivers on May 25, 2013, 10:19:00 PM
I had a great time hunting down there with you Ray.  Hope you get more family and vacation time to not use working.

Best wishes Andrew, perhaps I will get a hunt in with you?  Truly Gods Country down there.
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: sticksnstones on May 26, 2013, 08:47:00 AM
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Originally posted by Izzy:
Any pics of the new digs floating around yet?
Hey Izzy, I made arrangements with Andrew to access the site on my last trip and took some pictures. I will try to get them posted sometime after I finish observing Memorial Day.
Thom
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: kasey on May 26, 2013, 11:30:00 PM
Heck Ya Ray. Your The Main Reason I Came .And Pop Pop Really Liked You .Hunting There With You Was The happiest Time Of My Life And The Last Time I Hunted With Pop pop
Title: Re: Big Changes Coming to Hog Heaven!
Post by: Ray Hammond on May 28, 2013, 05:41:00 AM
Well just call me when you want to come down and I will join you!!!

we will have another "knock down drag out" good time! biglaugh:   :laughing: