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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Terry Green on October 28, 2013, 11:50:00 AM
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Welcome!!! :wavey:
Todd Trahan
SPOT 360 Hunting Seat
Find the SPOT - Hunt the SPOT
337-454-6189
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Where can it be seen?
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I think Todd will be along shortly.....as I just set him up.
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Thanks, Terry. Welcome, Todd. :wavey: :thumbsup:
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Todd :wavey: WELCOME from N.C. :archer2:
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Weclome! :wavey:
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Welcome, do they have a pic or website?
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Greetings to everyone.
My name is Todd Trahan and I live in South Central Louisiana. It is a privilege to be a sponsor on this web site. What Terry, Rob and all the moderators do here has added great enjoyment to the traditional archery part of my life.
Ground hunting and traditional archery both had there start for me on the same morning in 1992. I had an encounter with a forkhorn while standing on the trunk of a fallen oak. I was shooting a compound and I shot under this deer at 8 yards. Only afterwards did I realize that my arrow was sitting at a downward angle because my nock had slid up 1 1/2"on my string when I drew. That day I decided I LOVED ground hunting and I wanted to shoot a traditional bow.
Since that time I have hunted on many a seat and just never found one that did all that I would have liked a seat to do, so in July of 2012 what started as an idea ended up being a hunting seat - The SPOT 360.
There are 3 facets to every hunt: 1) Packing your seat to your hunting spot, 2) Hunting that spot and 3) The versatility to adapt to different types of hunting situations, terrain, inclines and species of game. Some seats do well in one or two facets of the hunt but I believe the SPOT 360 excels in all facets of ground hunting.
Here are the attributes of the SPOT 360 Hunting Seat:
• Packable:
1) Hand Carry with Convenient Carry Handle
2) Backpack Straps with Sternum Connect - Hands Free
3) Bow Quiver Style or Shoulder Style - Hands Free
4) Inside or Outside of Existing Backpack – Hands Free
5) Less Than Width of Shoulders – Where You Go it Goes
• Hunt-able:
1) Quick & Quiet Set Up
2) 360 Degree Radius
3) Adjusts to Uneven Terrain
4) Comfortable Seat – 1 ½” Cushion
5) Comfortable, Adjustable Backrest
• Versatile:
1) No Tree Needed
2) Natural Cover
3) Pop Up Blinds
4) Custom Heights from 8” – 19”
5) Two Models to Choose From: Standard - 14” W or our 18” Wide “Big Man.”
6) Sets Up Where Others Cannot
7) Deer, Turkey, Hogs, Predators, Elk, Doves, African Game….
With all of these features there is no need for any other seat! From hunting deer in natural cover, to turkeys in pop up blinds or low to the ground, the SPOT 360 fits differing hunting situations like no other seat can. By "design" the SPOT 360 swivels and thus eliminates the need for a “swivel mechanism.”
With the SPOT 360, all you have to do is “Find the SPOT and Hunt the SPOT.”
Please contact with any inquiries. I have more pics and also videos that can be sent.
Good Hunting and God Bless,
Todd Trahan
The Hunting Spot LLC
337-454-6189
[email protected]
Job 42:2
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Awesome seat, how much is one of these gonna set a guy back?
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Hey Sveltri - The cost is $185.
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Either model?
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Got a picture of it packed up? Maybe someone carrying it?
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Sorry....
Also, welcome aboard! Glad to have ya!
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Welcome, nice seat.
Tom
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Now that is one good lookin' seat! :thumbsup:
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Edge209, Here are a few pics carrying it.Back Pack style, with and without fanny pack, Over your neck like a bow quiver or just on the shoulder.
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Dirty Bird, The Big Man is $195.
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David, Thanks. My wife says its pretty! LOL!
We tested it all last hunting season, Louisiana, Mississippi and Kansas for deer. I gave a prototype to a friend who is a turkey hunting "NUT" this past spring and he like it especially for edge of food plots, field edges and places where there were no trees to lean against and especially for the gobblers that were henned up and took a while to come to the calling. He said sometimes he waits for 3 hours in one spot. Here is a picture of the seat with the short "turkey pedestal" that gets you low to the ground but still lets you swivel 360.
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I have really been enjoying mine. I have done some 7+ hour sits in comfort. It is also the quietest seat I have used. Sweet seat! :thumbsup:
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Todd,
What's the weight limits for each model?
Really, REALLY like that design!
Ken
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Rob, Glad the seat is working for your brother.
3under, 300lbs for both models.
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Great Todd,
Sent you an email.
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welcome aboard, mssg. sent
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Welcome, now how much does it weight?
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I like it! Welcome and thanks for the sponsorship.
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SouthMS Bowhunter, The seat weighs right at 11 lbs. Doing the single pedestal design requires using materials that can handle the weight of a hunter.
I was hunting in MS this weekend. Some great deer hunting in your state!
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Looks interesting! I'm 250lbs, if I lean back too much am I going to bend the center post or any other parts for that matter??
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Man that looks great...especially the turkey hunting lenght....you got any in stock?
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mjh, Thanks for your question.
If you use it as designed neither will you bend anything or tip over. If you throw your weight back you will tip over before you bend anything and that is by design. Let me explain.
This seat is different from typical chairs in that you do not have 3 or 4 legs providing a wide base on the ground and the connection of those legs under your seat. People already do that and that tends to affect the packability of the seat because you end up with a group of legs as one assembly. It is a very stable design which is why most chairs are made that way.
On the SPOT 360 the legs, base, pedestal and seat all disconnect from each other and that allows all of the base assembly to be carried inside the fold of the seat in a pouch that connects to the backrest. When you look at the picture of me carrying it I do not have a seperate batch of parts somewhere - everything is in that folded seat.
The connection point of those legs is low to the ground and my legs are 9 & 8 inches long. I use DOM Tubing for the center pedestal which is what is used to make roll cages and aircraft frame. I use 1/2" Cold Rolled Steel Round for the legs. Strong stuff! The length of my legs will not allow you to put enough pressure on the pedestal to break it because you will begin tipping the seat over IF you go back that far. You can make any chair tip over if you lean back far enough.
I will be glad to send you specifications on the materials that I use if you would like.
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Joebuck, I do have some seats in stock. Thanks for asking.
This spring I hunted turkeys in a pop up blind for 2 hours to start the morning with the seat at 15"H. Nothing showed so I packed up my seat and decoys and went in the woods 200 yarsd away and set up at 8" H and all I had to do was carry a 3.5" pedestal in my pouch to accomplish this. I don't believe any other seat has this capability.
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I have bowhunted turkeys for a longtime with the Waldrop PAC seat and my own knock of it. can't remember the exact distance my butt is off the ground but when I rest my recurve on the ground, it's the exact height it needs to be to shoot a bird at my decoys so I don't have to move the bow vertical.....so I could adjust your seat couldn't I?
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Todd thanks for the response! You know how it goes clumsy hunter tipping over all the time, not trying mind you, but gravity pulls yea down sometimes. Seems like a robust design. I'm looking forward to some more user reviews and with Christmas coming I'm always told to make a list, gotta watch my own spending though before hand...
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Joebuck, I can put you at whatever height you would want to be when you order a seat by sending you the correct length pedestal. If you ever want to change your height in the future just let me know and we can send you another pedestal at whatever length you want.
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mjh, I understand. A man has to know his limits. LOL! Only you can decide what would work for you and your style of hunting. If I can help in any way let me know.
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Do you both pedestals with it, to make it useable for a pop up blind and lower to the ground in a natural blind?
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Gen273, For deer in natural cover I hunt with my seat at 15"H which is the same height I use in pop up blinds for deer and turkey. The pedestal at that height measures 10"L. On the story I related about the turkey hunt in the spring I was carrying my 10" pedestal in the designated pouch that is part of the seat and carrying the 3.5" (turkey) pedestal in the same pouch that holds the SPOT which is the circular disc that the legs go into. When I set up in either situation I just pull the extra pedestal out of the pouch so it is not in my back when I sit down.
What's neat about the SPOT 360 is you can get the seat to be at whatever height you need it to be for whatever situation. For instance, Rob W hunts at 12"H in the woods and I like 15"H. He is taller than me but he likes to be lower profile so his pedestal is 8"L.
If you would want to sit at one height for your pop up blind and then lower when you are in the woods it would just require you purchasing an extra pedestal which are under $10.
Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Thanks Todd...i like your design...let me scratch up some coins...good luck with your invention
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I'll post more in a bit, when I have more time, but I got on of these seats and it's the best all around seat I've used to date. I strongly suggest this chair.
I know there are other really sweet high end chairs out there, but given weight, size, ease of transport, comfort, setup time and quietness, this chair best met my needs. Once you do it a couple times, you can have it setup in less than about a minute.
My biggest requirement was seat height, since I have bad knees. Most chairs are way too low for me. The big man chair can get me to about 19" to seat height. If you're over 6' tall with bad knees, that's a huge factor.
And the bonus, Todd informed me that I was the first person to kill a deer while sitting in one of his chairs.
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Looks like a nice chair, but for out west here most of us have a pack on already. How does it ride on a pack? And I wonder how it would be after having it on your back all day? It looks compfy though!! Might have to look at it closer. It would be real mice on an upcoming late season elk hunt. Welcome!
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Mojostick - You are indeed the first person to take a deer on the SPOT 360 Hunting Seat since I started selling them on October 1 !!! Only fitting I suppose, since you were the very first hunter to buy one as well - so you are 2 for 2 brother!! Congratulations!!
I am sure others who have invented or manufactured things for hunters can relate to how it felt to hear you on the phone saying that you killed a deer with your bow while on the SPOT 360. I bet guys who make bows understand that as well as anyone. I don't know how to explain it but just that it felt really neat to know you were sitting on a seat that I had something to do with when you harvested a deer. Very, very cool!!!
The seat you have is actually not the "Big Man" model - you have the Standard SPOT 360. We can get both models up to 19"H if needed. The "Big Man" has a bigger seat and back. 18"W as opposed to the Standard SPOT 360 which is 14"W.
The Standard size will handle people with much wider hips than 14" because the adjustable back straps just get pushed out on the side of your hips and it does not affect the operation of the seat at all.
Congratulations again on a fine deer and I wish you many more! :clapper: :clapper:
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Steadman, First let me say that those decals you make at Hardcore Archery are awesome and thanks for the welcome.
The first way I carried the seat in the prototype stage was inside a backpack that I had. We did not have the back pack straps at that time. In order to carry it on the outside of a pack you would have to have a back pack that had the proper straps or the ability to fasten straps to the back pack and hold the seat to ride it on the outside.
Having elk hunted on 3 occasion before in WY. & NM, I would not carry this seat if I were roaming and calling trying to set up on elk. Just not necessary for that style of hunting. The situation that the SPOT 360 would shine in concerning elk would be water holes in my opinion and would be fantastic for Pronghorn Anteplope as well.
A guy in MA who has a SPOT 360 hunts some bitterly cold weather and carries a lot of clothes in a backpack for his sometimes 2 mile hike in to his spot. He dresses real light for the walk and then changes once he arrives and cools down. He told me that he was going to strap it to his backpack. He has a back pack that has that mesh type pouch on the back so the seat sits in that and then he cinches the seat to his pack. I am looking forward to his reports on how that works for him. He has taken some big deer by MA standards and hopefully I can get him to send me some picks of how he is packing it.
Remember, that you can carry the seat over your neck (like a bow quiver strap would) or just on your shoulder using one cushioned shoulder strap and the seat would ride on your side. (See pictures in previous post)That is easily accomplished by removing one of the two back pack straps completely and then connecting the bottom of the other strap to the top buckle on the other side of the seat. Take care,
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Thanks Todd for the compliments and the info. I hear you on the spot and stalk, but sitting over water or trails for elk or muleys is what I was refering to. Thanks again!!
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Awsome Seat!! I love the Backpack carry set-up! :thumbsup: Something else to save my Pennies for!! :archer:
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Steadman, sorry I misunderstood. When you said having on your back all day I assumed you were roaming. It would work great for water and trails.Take care,
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Shakes.602, I appreciate the compliments. I love the back pack carry as well. The shouder straps are 2 1/2" wide and are cushioned and we also made the sternum strap adjustable vertically which allows you to place the strap as low or high on your chest as you wish. It is amazing how much being able to do that accents the comfort of carrying it.
Of course you can tighten or loosen the strap horizontally as well. Take care,
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No bud you were right. I like to roam but sometimes find a hot wallow and a compfy seat would be just the ticket to hang out the rest of the day. Thanks you answered perfectly.
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Nice looking ambush seat. Have to look into getting one.
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Skates, thanks for the compliment. Everyone who has tried or purchased the seat has liked it better than any seat they have used.
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Todd,
Big welcome from Louisiana.
Looks sturdy and nice concept. Mostly stick to trees, but if I start ground hunting more would check one out. Guess this would work for doves and squirrels too. Is it real quick to set up for moving around?
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Hey LimBender, Thanks for the welcome. I actually shot some doves off of it in September. I sure did not make it for that but it works great. I carried it in the field backpack style over my hunting vest and it was the ticket! Doves were coming from all different directions so being able to spin around to look for doves coming was sure a lot better that a non swiveling seat. I made 3 moves that day on the way to a limit of doves. Takes a minute to take down and a minute to put together.
I haven't used it to squirrel hunt yet cause I love to deer hunt so much but I know it will work great for that because as I am deer hunting I got squirrels dropping stuff on my head. I think it would help a person like me that's a little impatient when squirrel hunting to sit tight a little longer and you could carry it just like for doves - over your vest.
It is very sturdy!!
I am near Lafayette. Where are you?
Take Care,
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I said I'd add some more about the chair, but I've been super busy.
Long story short, I've searched far and wide for chairs, I've owned my own sporting goods store, I've worked at Cabela's, and this is the best chair I've found for my needs.
Keeping in mind, if people can spend $200 plus on a climber, $200 for a killer chair that you'll use for years is not out of line.
It's portable and setup is fast. And, most importantly, it's comfortable and dead quiet.
Now, I want add that I know Scott that makes the Huntmore chair. He lives near me and I bought lots of fly fishing inventory from him when I owned the fly shop. I like Scott and he makes a fantastic chair, too.
So this isn't a this chair vs that chair online debate war. Both chairs have their best benefits.
So, with that clarification, for what I wanted out of a hunting chair, the Spot 360 serves me better. Other chairs may suit others better.
But as far as I'm concerned, my long search for the "high end" super hunting chair is over, until there's a Spot 360 2.0.
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Just what I've been looking for! Here comes my order...
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Todd,
I'm liking the looks of this seat a lot. Can you expand on how the legs adapt to terrain? Aside from where you put the Y? When ground hunting I like to back up to a tree big enough to block my silhouette, but inevitably there's a hump right at the base of the tree. Can you adjust the seat to sit roughly level on a slope?
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Quick response from Todd- looking forward to getting mine.
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Mike,
I am going to send a video to your e-mail that will show you how dealing with inclines works. Round peg in a round hole - literally.
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Todd,
Could you send me the video as well?
Thanks
Charlie
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Charlie, Will do brother.
Take care,
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Todd,
Welcome, please send me the video, thanks William.
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welcome
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William, Videos have been e-amiled to you. Any questions please let me know.
Bearclaw- Thanks for the welcome.
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Todd, Please e-mail the video to me as well. Looks like a great chair. Will you be at the Kalamazoo Trad Expo? I'd like to see one in person.
Gary
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Todd,
thanks for the videos, it look very neat!!!
Charlie
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Fling,
I'll be at K-Zoo and could bring mine for a look. I assume it'll be there that Saturday, because I'm taking a minivan full of kids.
Otherwise, I live in Rockford and you can bop by whenever and take a look.
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Gary, will be sending the videos shortly.
Bob, thanks for offering to show Gary the seat. Not doing the shows yet.
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Pm'ed you. Good Luck with your endaevor.
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Chain2, Just sent videos to you. Appreciate the inquiry.
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Hey Brother,
Send me the videos if you would please sir.
work email - [email protected]
home email - [email protected]
Thanks!
Charlie
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Welcome!!!
Looks like a well thought out seat. I could have used it last week in my ground blind in Montana:)
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Check your email Todd :)
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Thanks for the video links, Todd. Really like the attention to detail in this chair design; scratching up some coins to order one.
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Thanks Todd.
Mojostick, I'll send a PM. Thanks.
Gary
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Looks great. Email sent.
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WELCOME!
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Could you email me the video please? Thanks
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Roger, They should be in your e-mail.
Take Care,
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Guys,
I took the opportunity of a day off from work to make the hour drive west to see the Spot360. When I first saw pictures of the Spot360, I had some reservations about the design as to how well it would work for me. I did bring some cash along just-in-case but wasn’t really planning to make a purchase today. You see, I already have a variety of seats collected over the past couple of decades (two Niff-T Seats, a Double Bull Magnum, a Hammock Seat, a Waldrop Pac Seat, and a couple of Millennium Tree Seats). All these seats work well within their design limits so I really didn’t need another seat.
Long story short, I left with a Spot360, three additional pipes for different heights, and a cool bow-holder that straps to your boot or leg. The Spot360 is very comfortable, absolutely quiet, extremely well thought out, and extremely well put together. It is quality. It allows you to pivot 360 degrees effortlessly and in silence. I haven’t hunted with it yet, but it will be the one accompanying me on my next ground-hunt. This is a great hunting seat guys!
A side plus. I met Todd (and his wife) for the first time today and was treated like a lifelong friend. Todd spent an incredible amount of time showing me all the details of the Spot360. He is very enthusiastic about what he does and has a knack for functionality and quality. He is good people.
Todd doesn't know I am posting this but I wanted to offer my first hand experience on the Spot360 in an effort to help those that are just looking at the pictures.
Thanks,
Mark
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Todd, would you send me the video? Thanks, John
[email protected]
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Todd, I would like to see the video as well. Thanks
[email protected]
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Mark,
Thank you for the kind words! (you made my wife cry - good tears). It was such a treat meeting you and talking hunting. I hope we get to go hunting soon.
I am very pleased you like the seat and wish you much success using it! The questions you had made me realize that you are quite the thinker and to have you walk away satisfied was awesome!
Take care and stay in touch. Let's go chase em soon!
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Drumstick63 (Mark) mentioned a bow holder in his post above and I wanted to post a picture of the one we offer that I forgot to post in the original introduction.
It addresses the first of the 2 things you MUST do to shoot a deer when hunting from the ground or in a tree. You must position your bow to draw. This bow holder is a very simple way to have your bow up and in position and not have to hold the weight of your bow in case the deer hangs up. You are also more apt to put your bow in position if you hear something you may think would be a deer if you can put it in a holder and not just hold it up with your bow arm.
Here are a few pictures that show it being used while sitting and standing. The pouch that holds the bow tip is shallow so that it will not pinch inside and hinder pulling it out to shoot. Just lifting your bow 1" gets it out of the pouch and ready to draw.
Also, we do 2 straps - top & bottom - so you can cinch the bow holder in place and it won't move up or down your leg after you position it according to your height and situation. If you are interested just send me an e-mail and we will get you fixed up.
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Not sure if this has been addressed I haven't been able to follow all the pages. How is the base on uneven terrain??? My last outing was on a slope, I was using my folding 3 footed double bull chair, hand to pile up some bark and half logs to get stable. Todd you've got my email if you have a base video please send. Thanks!
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I'd also like to see some pics of it on a slope and how to use it near the base of a big tree with some roots. I presently use the wood rope on type seat for that reason. Thanks.
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I spoke with Todd for quite awhile yesterday. I'm ordering one of his seats just based on him being a heckuva good guy. :)
Todd has a pretty good understanding about ground hunting, we talked about the Nordberg books and Dr Nordbergs description of what a hunting seat should be. I think it's important to note...Todd didn't just create a new type of seat. He created a seat with ground hunting with a bow in mind. I'm sending him a check this week, and when I get mine I will give it a good, honest workout.
Order with confidence guys, Todd is the real deal.
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Thank you for becoming one of our sponsors Todd.
I just sent you a pm basically asking about set up on hillsides and tough spots.
I loved the question about those trees with large roots extending out at the base.
I look for to getting a little closer look at your chair and it's application in hunting situations that reflect where I have to hunt.
Thanks again!!
God bless,Mudd
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Todd,
I can't go turkey hunting this spring with Joey and Not have the same seat he is using :) My Waldrop seat is set up like Joey's...but I had some problems with it this past spring. When sitting for a long time & swiveling, I developed a raw spot on my tail bone. Trying to adapt for spring turkey 2014, I purchased a high end cushion for comfort but I don't think it will help in swiveling side to side. The other problem is packing it in a duffle for airline cargo.
I still hunt out of tree stands for deer even at 67 years old. Without my son's help in setting up a safe harness system (search Tippit's Tree Stand Safety System in PowWow), I'd be on the ground all the time...will probably be doing more ground hunting in the future anyway.
Long story short, I need one of these before Joey gets his hands on it ;) tippit
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Get him to send you the videos; it's crystal clear on there about root balls/inclines. Very slick concept.
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Roger - Great talking with you and thank you for the kind words! I look forward to your opinion of the seat.
To everyone else. I will get the videos to your e-mails ASAP.
Thank you for the inquiries!
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Could you please send me the video, [email protected]
Thanks,
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Todd,
Has it been tested in the 10-20 degree range? Our Michigan December late season finds me on the ground out of the windy trees and the December woods can be super quiet, so cold weather creaks are a no-no. This buck was taken from a ground blind on a 19 degree night last December at the start of a lake effect snow 'storm' (it dumped 10 inches overnight-light winds from northwest coming over the lakes do that to us). It was not blustery, so the woods was quiet. When I saw the buck working down the ridge, I had to sit forward in the competitor chair to avoid the creak that often happens in cold weather when I move. I would like to avoid that.
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I would also like to see the video as I deal with roots and hills wherever I go.
[email protected]
Thanks,
Terry K.
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Terry, E-mails sent. I should have all the videos out to everyone who asked. If you do not have them and you asked for them please send me another message and accept my apologies ahead of time if I missed you.
I really appreciate all the interest and comments.
Thanks,
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Ray,
Last year my good friend and hunting partner took our prototype to Kansas for 3 weeks to hunt whitetails. (Poor sucker) :rolleyes: If I am not mistaken he hunted in 13 degree weather. I have a text in to him now to clarify but seeing as he is in Kansas again (Poor sucker), I am not sure when I will hear back from him. I do know he is hunting today in 19 degree weather. He has never once told me the seat squeaked.
The way the seat is constructed and how the seat swivels I really don't see how cold weather would make it squeak. As you know metal expands in warm weather and contracts in cold weather and I believe the parts do this in sync with each other because everything is in the same temperature.
I have installed 1/4" foam sheeting between all the pieces in the seat cushion and back cushion part of the seat so that fabric does not rub and make noise when you lean back and the side straps tighten against the base or the stiffener board in the back.
I cannot have a seat that makes noise where I hunt either because we get those same very quiet days in the woods where you wonder if a deer could here you breathing when its gets close and the adrenaline starts pumping. I believe we have this covered.
When I hear back from my friend in Kansas (poor sucker) I will let you know. I hope this helps.
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OK, thanks Todd. I just talked with Roger Norris (my fellow Shrewhaven Lodge member) and I do believe we're going to have to label the bottom of our chairs. Will call you soon for an order.
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Ray,
It will be an extreme honor knowing that you and Roger would be hunting off a SPOT 360 Hunting Seat at Shrewhaven Lodge.
Look forward to speaking with you and thanks.
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Ray, My buddy got back in touch with me about the cold weather and any noise. His words, "Quiet as a mouse."
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Got my seat this week- Everything I hoped for! I really like the adjustable sprung back that gives with your movement. Todd sent me a third shorty pedestal, too, in addition to the extra one I ordered, so I now have three seat heights to choose from. Good work, Todd!
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Got my seat today also...this thing is really nice! Hope to break it in tomorrow and get a feel for how it handles the hilly terrain that I hunt.
The setups I have tried so far seem very stable and make for a very comfortable sit. Very nice design Todd!
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I have put together a video that shows the Spot 360 Hunting Seat and Bow Holder as well. Just click the link below to view.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtJfCKNjMHE
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Todd, where ya located? I'm in Lafayette...might make a visit if you're close. PM if needed, thanks!
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Mark, PM sent.
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Nicely done video !
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Todd,
The video explains All my questions! Got my seat today with a 17" seat & turkey post...just order one in between. Winter hogs, spring turkey and fall deer plus my old bones will be comfortable. Great product. Thanks...tippit
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Todd,
That is a great video, The more I watched the more I liked it, you got me thinking now.
Tom
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Don, Hope to see one of those MO Bucks you been taking pictures of hit the ground soon.
Mr. Mac, Enjoy the seat and thanks for your service sir. A pleasure talking to a veteran.
Tippit, I am thinking you need to be the first person to take a hog on the Spot 360.
Tom, thanks for the comment on the video.
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:campfire:
Up for the video.
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I doubt the chair would may any noise if cold. I can stick mine in the garage tonight and the next few days and test. Although we're only in the 30's. But I sat in it on several hunts and nothing ever made even the smallest creak.
I'm obsessive/OCD about noise when deer hunting, as many are. Be it clothing, boots, creaky limbs, a squeaky shelf plate, finger tab, chair, whatever, I won't tolerate noise. That's especially true when hunting natural cover, on the ground, with light weight traditional bows at extremely short ranges. There's no room for noise at 8-10 yards on the ground. That said, I just can't see this chair causing any noise issue under normal cold temps. Now, temps in the dead calm single digits and below can just about make wool noisy, so anything is possible in extreme cold temps.
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I ordered Spot 360 after watching YouTude video and speaking to Todd. Great gentleman to deal with and product will be used for both deer and turkey hunting.
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Do you have to use the rubber pads for normal ground? Thanks. Bill
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I used the pads a couple times, but I found it works better without, in my northern/sandy soils. I would imagine whether to use or not would widely vary by soil type and region.
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Todd,
I have a question about this seat. What part of the seat swivels? Is it the part on the base that the legs plug into or is it on the bottom of the seat? I'm concerned with how it works if the base is sitting in mud as in a cattail swamp. Also, how does it work in mud without the rubber pads? Will it sink down in? If it works in those situations I think it would be a great seat for some of the public land in my area and also for duck hunting.
Gary
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Bill,
Mojo answered your question perfectly. It really is up to you if you choose to use the Rubber Feet on harder soils or not. There purpose is for softer soils so the legs don't sink.
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Gary,
The seat swivels in 3 places - On top of the SPOT, the bottom of the Pedestal and the top of the Pedestal under the Seat. If your leg assembly would be in the mud and not want to swivel at that point then the seat would swivel at the next easiest swivel joint. Pretty slick!
(http://i.imgur.com/2jFg8s8.jpg)
Here is a picture of the SPOT 360 set up in a muddy ditch this spring while turkey hunting. I had no rubber feet under the legs. I just let them sink until they stopped.
Without the Rubber Feet the legs will sink in mud and then the SPOT will start to resist sinking as well. The only thing you have to watch for is that the pressure is more on the Legs than the SPOT. If you were to sink down in the mud and your legs would be in soft mud but your SPOT would hit a hard chunck of dirt then pressure would transfer to the SPOT instead of the legs. You would notice this and may need to reposition the seat because it would get a little wobbly. The pressure needs to be on the tips of the legs to provide maximum stability and it does that on its own EXCEPT in those rare instances where something hard would be under the SPOT while the legs are still sinking.
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So my wife was just asking what I wanted for Christmas. I told her I didn't need anything. That may change now! ;)
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Tom, that's what I'm thinking!! Bill
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Todd,
Thanks for the reply. That picture answered the question perfectly. That sure is a slick design. The cattail swamps I spoke of have ridges of dry ground that the deer use to travel but to set up 15-20 yards off the trail you might be in ankle deep mud. This is on public ground where everyone else is in the trees and the deer when pressured head to the swamps. I will be ordering one in the near future.
Thanks,
Gary
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Todd,
What about corrosion and care of the seat and metal parts, what is required to keep it maintained?
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Gary,
Your welcome and thanks for the compliment on design. Your area sounds a lot like some of the stuff we hunt here in the Atchafalaya Basin. Those deer sure ain't scared of water!
Take Care, Todd
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SMSBH,
I have a video that I have done that I send to every customer on care and maintenance. The video covers just the common sense issues that you would pay attention to with any metal object that you use for hunting. I don't know what will happen experientially because I have had zero issues in 2 years.
Basically you have to pay attention to moisture like with all things metal. If someone would store their seat wet for a length of time then what happens with metal would probably start happening.
I use Mineral Oil on all of the pieces of my seat. It is a water repellent as well as an oil and it is also oderless. It's also cheap - $2.00 for 16 oz. so I use it as much as I deem necessary depending on what kind of weather I am hunting in.
Pedestal - I treat the pedestal like a shotgun barrel on the inside. Everyone has a gun cleaning kit or a coat hanger. Just run a dry rag inside to get moisture out and then run a rag inside with some mineral oil on it and your good to go.
Legs - There is only one part of the legs that needs attention - the part that inserts in the SPOT because the rest is covered in truck bed liner. Keep dry and mineral oil. If any corrosion starts - lite wire brush.
SPOT - Mineral oil in the holes.
Sticker Rod - Mineral oil.
Rubber Feet - Practically indestructible.
Seat Material - is lined with rubber to prevent moisture from getting in but if you hunt in a downpour or drop it in the water then the seat and back pouches unzip so you can dry out the parts inside.
If a part is lost or damage occurs because of corrosion that part can be replaced. It has always bothered me that most seats I have had, if one part broke the whole seat was history. Not so with the SPOT 360. Lose a leg, get another one. Pedestal gets corroded cause it wasn't taken care of, we send you another one and your good to go. Heck if you tear your straps or your seat material we can send you a shell of a seat and you can take your cushions out of the old seat and insert it in the new shell or we can send you another seat and you just use the leg assembly you already have.
I do not see why this seat will not last anyone who is willing to take care of it many, many years as is and if stuff happens we can solve those problems too.
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I have spoken with Todd a couple times now. I don't have a seat yet, but I am positive that this new product will have a place in my future ground game. I have thrown a bunch of questions at him, and he has truly looked at his product from all angles. I'm looking forward to trying it out.
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Is the reason that the rubber feet are not attached so the legs can be stowed in the seat section? It seems like it would be easy to loose the pads as they are loose.
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Cloudbaseracer,
That is the reason that everything is seperated the way that it is so that the leg asembly is able to be stowed in the seat the way that it is. Every piece has its own pouch that it fits in so you empty the pouches to set up and then fill the pouches to carry the seat out.
When we first did the prototype and I gave it to different hunters to try I was anxious to see if people would lose pieces. In the first full season (deer and turkey)with 4 different hunters using the seat not one piece as lost.
I have had to ship out only one washer this year since we started selling the SPOT 360. I believe because everything has its place it facilitates putting things back where they were. For whatever reason I am pleased with what I have seen so far.
Let me add this to the conversation although it is not related directly to your question. It may explain where I was coming from in this design.
If you consider the different parts of every hunt and put a time allotment to each part it would go something like this.
1) Traveling to your spot to hunt: 10-60 minutes.
2) Hunt your spot: 1-5 hours. This is the part of the hunt that seat assembly fits into.
3) Travel back to where you started: 10-60 minutes.
When you think about it taking only 60-90 seconds to set up your seat then you see that this part of the hunt is the least time consuming part of each and every hunt. There are seats that you just pop open and put in place, like camp chair style seats and they take maybe 20 seconds to set up but putting too much value on how quickly a seat is to set up really doesn't fit into the big picture.
Can you pack it well, sit for hours, swivel 360 to get a shot off accuratley, adjust to inclines... these things, IMHO, are the most significant because they are the things you spend the most time doing. Thanks for the question.