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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Branpoes on October 29, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
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Only on a forum like this, could I post this topic and have people think it isn't weird. For the first time today, I just walked around my yard shooting at random leaves. It was more fun than I've had in a long time with a bow of any kind. It reminded me of when I was young with one of those cheap red bows with the blunt tip arrows. I started years ago with a compound, switched to crossbow, and dabbled in traditional for awhile. Just recently I started taking traditional more seriously, and what a blast. Quick question. I'm shooting at leaves with field points. I've been able to locate my arrows so far but would like a tip that would catch the grass a bit more to keep my arrow search to a minimum. I'm shooting 250gr up front. Is there a tip made for stumps and grass that is that heavy? Or would I need to use weighted inserts. Thanks guys.
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I had good luck with vpa blunts
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Use a judo point with screw in adaptor of enough weight to reach your goal.
ChuckC
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Judo's are the way to go.
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Another vote for Judos
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I use glue on style judos that I think weigh 135 grains, and then glue them to a 100 steel adapter.
Not only is shooting at leaves (or whatever catches your eye) is not only a ton of fun, it is also some of the best and most realistic practice you can find.
Enjoy!
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Originally posted by Whip:
I use glue on style judos that I think weigh 135 grains, and then glue them to a 100 steel adapter.
Not only is shooting at leaves (or whatever catches your eye) is not only a ton of fun, it is also some of the best and most realistic practice you can find.
Enjoy!
X2!
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Check the vpa heads. I have them from 125 up to 200. I think they make heavier ones but not sure on the weights. You can also use a heavy insert and light point. I love the judo but not in my yard. Takes up a lot of turf and fewer options on weights. The vpa still lets me find arrows but less damage. Leaves are fun targets as are dandelions in the spring.
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Judos X10 plus weight etc. to achieve your desired requirements.
I love "stumping" as much as anything! I've killed thousands of leaves! It's addicting for sure...best practice you can do, less shooting animals!
Keep up the excitement!
Kris
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I was shooting at leaves one time while hunting in New York, took aim hit the leaf and guess what stuck its head out of the brush to see what the noise was.
Yep one of the biggest bucks I had ever seen :knothead: :knothead:
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judos and steel adapters.
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Cow pies and horse apples make some good practice too:)
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Judos never did it for me - but Ace Hex are great and plain 'ol cylindrical blunts are my most used. Years back I bought a gross of the GameNabbers (third in from left) and they do well for roving and small game.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v169/Stumpkiller/Bowhunting/HPIM2021.jpg)
When hunting deer I always carry two blunts for stumps, squirrels and just plain fun while keeping my eye in. An old broadhead is also great for leaves and clumps of grass . . . not so much for stumps.
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I shoot 250 grains up front too... I like the VPA SGT, and Judo's with 125 grain steel adaptor...
I always carry one in my quiver and shoot a practice shot on the way out of the stand, or when something catches my eye while going to and from the stand...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Bowhunter4life/null_zpsad1601f6.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Bowhunter4life/media/null_zpsad1601f6.jpg.html)
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Why has no one mentioned flu flus? That is your best possible option . I have a couple flu flus with judo points on them and I can't lose those arrows if I even tried really hard ..
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Judos are great for grass and moss, but lately I have been favoring ace hex heads, they stop the arrow nearly as well in soft stuff and they dont stick in wood as much. plus they are alot cheaper. Both are far better than field points. Get steel glue in adapters, 160+100, 125+125, or 145+100.
One pet peeve of mine is when the springs on judos get loose from hard use and make noise when shot.
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Judos with a 75 grain woody weight here
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I've always used Ace Hex heads and in the old days judos. I would like to try the VPA blunts but how do you guys get them in your quivers? Thanks. BILL
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Reverse the direction of the arrrow and put the nock end up.
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I use those springy arms on the back of a screw in blunt.
If not I loose a lot of arrows to the grass monster.
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Hi I use judos in the deep leaf cover of the north east . I use rubber blunts for tree shots or when the leaves are not deep . I shoot 125gr. now , when I shoot heavier wood I raped copper wire around the judo .
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I am really liking the Hammer head
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Nerf type balls work well
Can often get them at a dollar store
Arrows dont glance off them like a whiffle ball.
For those dead eye guys ping pong balls are good.
Even come in glow in the dark!
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Originally posted by The-Talon:
Why has no one mentioned flu flus?
I'm with you. I always carry a flu flu with a 145gr Hammer blunt glued on.
I just tried the Hammers this year (was using Judos) & they are the cats meow! Hit the grass at an oblique angle & the arrow stops in less than a foot. Judo's never did as well!
Leaves are an excellent target! As good a target as you will find. Couple months ago I saw a YouTube vid of some German guy that did some roving on a course he had setup. Some of the targets were foam blocks he had dangling by strings. I thought it such a good idea that I took an old cheapy foam target I had & sawed it into 4 small blocks (don't do this inside, you will find your wife's sense of humor isn't what you thought it was)& hung then by some twine from trees in my stumping area. They are great fun targets as well but you gotta hit them pretty close to center or else your arrow zips on through the corners.
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90-95% of my practice is on leaves. I can wander through the yard or the woods and have plenty of targets. Also shoot at leaves on bushes. I break some arrows (they're wood, so not that expensive) shooting between trees that are too close together-really makes you concentrate on the target, not what's in front of it.
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I was sitting in my pop-up blind which I used in years past with my recurve. I cracked the tip overlay on my recurve and haven't had a chance to replace it, so I took my 61" Holm Osprey with me last night. It looked like I had about 2" clearance at each limb tip, so I thought I'd shoot a field tip and make sure I could get an arrow out without hitting the limb tips. I shot a field tip at a really bright green leaf at about 12 yards. Guess what totally disappeared. I pulled out an arrow with a judo tip and proceeded to drill that leaf. After dark, I pulled the arrow with the judo tip and looked for 1/2 hour for the arrow with the field tip. I may find it someday, as I know right where it went in, but I sure couldn't dredge it out of the leaves last night.
Judo tips for me!
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I recently picked up some G5 small game heads (sgh). They seem like the best of both worlds, stop in the grass, but have enough punch to bring down small game.
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Originally posted by tracker12:
Reverse the direction of the arrrow and put the nock end up.
That's what I do with the VPA heads too... Works great!
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Another Vote for Good Old Judos!! I havent found a Head Yet that I cannot Lose to the Dreaded Grass Monster in one way or another! Havent lost a Judo Pointed Arrow Yet!!
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Judo points or rubber blunts .
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I bought 2 judo points 3 yrs ago and still have them both...however they do like to hide under leaves and tall grass. Generally speaking they stick! However if you pick a precarious spot with a thick background be prepared to hunt for it!
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I shot leaves yesterday with a rubber blunt over a steel blunt. Try hitting a leaf that is hanging from a spider web and swinging in the wind.