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Title: production bow
Post by: -snypershot317- on February 13, 2014, 12:25:00 AM
ok so this thread is mainly for fun and just for my curiosity. i know there are a lot of good bows out there both production and custom, but IF you could only buy a production bow, what bow would you buy?
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Post by: shag08 on February 13, 2014, 01:06:00 AM
Wow, that's a tough one. I don't really think I've shot enough of either to make a truly educated choice.  I have quite a few customs and I've had quite a few older production bows. I like the old Bears, Pearsons, Wing Archery.

A Hoyt Dorado was my first "traditional" bow.  And to this day I still love to shoot it. It has a grip that I was accustomed to from compound shooting for twenty years. It's pretty light in the hand for an aluminum riser, the limbs can be changed out for different weights, and they are dang near indestructible....mine was put to the test many times in my learning process.  The bow itself has been flung at the target quite a few times when the arrow didn't find it's mark lol.  

The Hoyt Dorado gets my vote. They are forgiving once you half-way know what  you are doing and tough as nails when you don't.
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Post by: Canadian Idle on February 13, 2014, 02:19:00 AM
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Post by: meatCKR on February 13, 2014, 03:03:00 AM
Martin Savannah
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Post by: huntnmuleys on February 13, 2014, 06:40:00 AM
super Kodiak. had one years ago and really liked it.
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Post by: 59Alaskan on February 13, 2014, 06:53:00 AM
Assuming cost is no object....Bear take down.

Assuming cost is relevant - Super Grizzly
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Post by: Easykeeper on February 13, 2014, 06:53:00 AM
I'd like to try the Bear '59 Kodiak reintroduction that came out a year or two ago.  Another one would be a 64" Super Kodiak.
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Post by: champ38 on February 13, 2014, 06:54:00 AM
Martin Savannah
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Post by: shirikahn on February 13, 2014, 08:28:00 AM
Well...My vote is for the Kodiak Magnum.
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Post by: mulot on February 13, 2014, 09:12:00 AM
Martin-Hatfield 3P T/D recurve. I own many of the better high end custom bows but if I had to rely on a bow to feed myself, I would use one of my 2 old "one shot" production Martin-Hatfield recurves. They are fast, quiet and deadly accurate for me.
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Post by: Stumpkiller on February 13, 2014, 09:16:00 AM
60" Black Widow KB.
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Post by: Tradcat on February 13, 2014, 09:23:00 AM
Martin Savannah
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Post by: Wheels2 on February 13, 2014, 09:27:00 AM
"production" is tough to define.  I think bows like Black Widows and even Bob Lee are production bows.
Unless the maker offers different limb materials, bow lengths, and glass I look at them as production bows.  That being said, I think that there are a lot of real high quality production bows made now.  The ********s are one of my favorite
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Post by: rick7 on February 13, 2014, 09:49:00 AM
martin savannah
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Post by: dirtguy on February 13, 2014, 09:50:00 AM
Damon Howatt Hunter.
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Post by: bulldog18 on February 13, 2014, 09:50:00 AM
Martin Savannah
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Post by: Wheels2 on February 13, 2014, 10:16:00 AM
Looks like I mentioned a prohibited brand in my earlier post......
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Post by: delongbows on February 13, 2014, 10:46:00 AM
Martin bamboo viper
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Post by: RC on February 13, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
I would buy the sky Archery longbow from 3 Rivers. Its a 66" long and built from Earl Hoyts old form. I had one near 20 years ago and they are fine bows. RC
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Post by: bartcanoe on February 13, 2014, 10:54:00 AM
Martin Hunter
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Post by: rraming on February 13, 2014, 11:37:00 AM
I have not shot one of the new Bear Take Down but have owned a Martin Hunter

Martin Hunter
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Post by: nineworlds9 on February 13, 2014, 12:46:00 PM
If we're bending the definition, Bob Lee all the way, no question.  Otherwise, a Hoyt Dorado or the new Tiburon, or T-r-@-d-t-e-c-h ILF setup with either TT or olympic limbs.
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Post by: Orion on February 13, 2014, 01:09:00 PM
Awfully trough to beat a Howatt Hunter or Diablo.  Either would be my choice.
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Post by: heartlandbowyer on February 13, 2014, 01:40:00 PM
Why just production bows? Cost? Wait time?

There are many nice custom bows out there for equal or less cost than some of the above bows.

Cory
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Post by: Shakes.602 on February 13, 2014, 01:51:00 PM
Bear Montana
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Post by: Stumpkiller on February 13, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
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Originally posted by heartlandbowyer:
Why just production bows? Cost? Wait time?

There are many nice custom bows out there for equal or less cost than some of the above bows.

Cory
Yep.  And right now every one of us is shooting a used bow after that first shot.    :archer2:    Still some tremendous values to be had.
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Post by: finkm1 on February 13, 2014, 03:57:00 PM
Bear Takedown
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Post by: Fastltz on February 13, 2014, 05:18:00 PM
Only production bow ive shot is a hoyt buffalo. I would buy one it shot very well. However I here nothing bad about a predator.
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Post by: joe skipp on February 13, 2014, 06:03:00 PM
If you can find a Groves Spitfire...buy it. You can also get a "Vanilla" Fedora H560 one piece recurve at a decent price and believe me...this bow is a shooter.
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Post by: jeff w on February 13, 2014, 06:07:00 PM
Bear takedown for me.    I like it better than any other bow I have owned-production or custom.
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Post by: Sam McMichael on February 13, 2014, 08:55:00 PM
for longbow a HHA

for recurve Red Wing Hunter
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Post by: mooseman76 on February 13, 2014, 10:32:00 PM
Martin/Howatt Hunter
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Post by: -snypershot317- on February 14, 2014, 12:01:00 AM
wow thanks guys...im enjoying seeing all the different brands and preferences here. since it was my question ill answer it based off what i have shot and so far for me it would either be a take down bear (really nice shooter) or the samick sage (again really nice shooter but lacks the looks). the bear if money was no object, the sage for money saving purposes...thanks again for all the replys.
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Post by: -snypershot317- on February 14, 2014, 12:02:00 AM
wow thanks guys...im enjoying seeing all the different brands and preferences here. since it was my question ill answer it based off what i have shot and so far for me it would either be a take down bear (really nice shooter) or the samick sage (again really nice shooter but lacks the looks). the bear if money was no object, the sage for money saving purposes...thanks again for all the replys.
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Post by: Fattony77 on February 14, 2014, 04:00:00 AM
I really like how my Martin L-100 longbow shoots well for me, no matter how long it's been since I shot it.
I also love my Kodiak Magnum for the comfortable grip and maneuverability.
I shot a Hoyt Buffalo once, and it was very nice, I just couldn't afford it at the time. Nice bow though.

That's about all that I have to say, about that. Lol.
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Post by: ishoot4thrills on February 14, 2014, 06:17:00 AM
If indeed Black Widows are classified as production bows, then I'll have a 56" or 58" BW PAX one-piece with all tulipwood or all black/white ebony.

Otherwise, gimme a lowly Bear Montana or one of the newest Bear Super Kodiaks.
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Post by: Larrydawg on February 14, 2014, 07:53:00 AM
I really like my 50th anniversary bear kodiak magnum. The more I shoot it the better I get with it! I also have a Shakespeare Ocala made in 1972 or so that shoots well. Last but not least I have a mid 50s Locksley Puma that shoots pretty sweet and it was a gimme!
Larrydawg
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Post by: Achilles1 on February 14, 2014, 02:12:00 PM
Either ( or both) Martins:
Dreamcatcher&Super Diablo. (http:// [url=http://imgur.com/pnSreUI] [img]http://i.imgur.com/pnSreUI.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
  (http:// [url=http://imgur.com/EyldRAm] [img]http://i.imgur.com/EyldRAm.jpg)[/url] [/IMG]
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Post by: fnshtr on February 14, 2014, 02:55:00 PM
Martin Dreamcatcher... but I don't think they make 'em anymore.
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Post by: BRITTMAN on February 14, 2014, 05:34:00 PM
For a production bow the absolute best bow for the money is a good condition used vintage kodiak or super kodiak
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Post by: Echo62 on February 14, 2014, 07:18:00 PM
Martin/Howatt Hunter.
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Post by: gonefishing600 on February 14, 2014, 09:46:00 PM
I'm not sure how you classify a production bow, but my definition is, bows that can only be purchased in 5 pound increment. So here are the bows I've owned that only sell in 5 pound increment.
 
I have owned 2 Savannah's, 3 Martin Bamboo Vipers,  1 Bear Montana, and one Tomahawk SS Diamond series.

I still own the Tomahawk and in my opinion is number one, with the Bamboo Viper running a close second.
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Post by: Harry on February 14, 2014, 10:47:00 PM
Damon Howatt Hunter x2
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Post by: Ulysseys on February 14, 2014, 11:30:00 PM
Hoyt buffalo
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Post by: Stumpkiller on February 14, 2014, 11:37:00 PM
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Originally posted by gonefishing600:
I'm not sure how you classify a production bow, but my definition is, bows that can only be purchased in 5 pound increment. So here are the bows I've owned that only sell in 5 pound increment.
Heck, that makes my Brownings, Ben Pearsons and Red Wing Hunters custom bows!  There is no MORE production of a bow than those of Ben Pearson.  He/they used one or two "X"es before or after the weight to show what it really drew.  That's just truth in labeling.  And my Wing Hunters are 41#, 46# and 47#.  My favorite Browning is marked "52#@28".

If you get to choose the color of your new Ford F-150 and pick the upgraded rim option B it's not a custom pick-up.  You just selected production option packages.  My definition of a custom is you talk to the bowyer and he starts to design the lay-up jig for your bow.  Not someone punches "B7" into the duplication lathe after clamping "wood C" on the table and a riser identical to 10,000 prior risers drops out; and then "A3" limbs in "wood D" are bolted to it.

If an existing jig or pattern is used for all all  the bow or components - it's just a production option.
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Post by: Thumper Dunker on February 15, 2014, 02:45:00 AM
Wing red wing or slim line. My slim line is over 39 and still going strong
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Post by: gonefishing600 on February 15, 2014, 08:11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Stumpkiller:
My definition of a custom is you talk to the bowyer and he starts to design the lay-up jig for your bow.  Not someone punches "B7" into the duplication lathe after clamping "wood C" on the table and a riser identical to 10,000 prior risers drops out; and then "A3" limbs in "wood D" are bolted to it.

If an existing jig or pattern is used for all all  the bow or components - it's just a production option.
And I agree, but I didn't feel like typing all of that out. The bow I mentioned meet the criteria you mentioned above. And guess what, if they sell in only 5 pound increment, you don't get to talk to the bowyer about the design and the lay-up, and the different woods. I was hoping you could read between the lines. I apologize for not being so precise in my description.  

I knew I was going to get beat up over it.    :knothead:
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Post by: -snypershot317- on February 15, 2014, 09:27:00 AM
i was kinda letting this fly by what others thought of as a production bow. for some it may mean weights in 5# increments, for others it may be pre-made jigs/forms used. i know for me i consider anything that a normal archery shop would carry a production bow. that means if i can walk into my local shop, and order it from them or from a vendor of them, then it is a production bow. very loose terms i know, but the brands i was thinking of, no particular order, were in the lines of: bear, samick, pse, martin, hoytt, damon howatt, cartel, tomohawk, das, etc...again because i can basically hop online or talk to my shop and order any one of these in my desired weight, and not talk to a bowyer and wait ~6 months for my bow to come in...lol. so its kinda up to the poster on what one deems a produtction bow...shoot i think i  even saw a couple mention bob lees and blackwidows on here...   :rolleyes:
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Post by: Treefrawg on February 15, 2014, 12:29:00 PM
Ive owned a 50# Hoyt Buffalo for about 5 months now. Love it!
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Post by: NIGEL01 on February 15, 2014, 05:35:00 PM
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h474/nigelkylatrista/bf1066eb-1ece-46f7-86cc-6851ccfc8024_zpse1882a1b.jpg)
My problem with custom bows is I have NO patience.  I see it I want it now.  From top to bottom:
New 59er most beautiful
1972 kmag best hunting bow
New Bear T/D is the coolest
And finally my two Browning Furys are my best performers, smooth and fast.
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Post by: swamper on February 18, 2014, 11:28:00 AM
Damon Howatt Hunter
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Post by: DaveT1963 on February 18, 2014, 11:46:00 AM
My first trad bow was an old Martin Howatt Hunter.... I've owned a ton of recurves and longbows since then and few, if any, out performed that old bow.
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Post by: jr1959 on February 18, 2014, 11:55:00 AM
I have bought the new '59 Bear Kodiak and I am very happy with it.  I would also not hesitate to buy a Martin Hunter.  Jim
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Post by: ghoster808 on February 18, 2014, 03:56:00 PM
I would get a ILF riser and limbs from 4he mwny out there and Lego together a bow. If ILF is not allowed then a Bear Kodiak TD or a Predator.