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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Sam S on March 03, 2014, 05:36:00 AM
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I was wondering has anyone been shooting Thunder Valley Snuffers. Do they hold up as well as the old Magnus snuffer I am needing to order some replacements for my upcoming bear hunt in NB and was wondering about them instead of the SS ones.
Thanks,
Sam
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I sell a ton of them and have had no complaints.
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I shot them last year. I never shot the old ones to compare but they seem very well made, mount true, sharpen up like a dream and are tuff. No worries, I think you can order with confidence.
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I actually think they're better than they've ever been. :thumbsup: Good to see the Snuffer in such capable hands.
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Originally posted by Braveheart Archery:
I actually think they're better than they've ever been. :thumbsup: Good to see the Snuffer in such capable hands.
that's good to know... great heads
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Originally posted by DarkTimber:
I shot them last year. I never shot the old ones to compare but they seem very well made, mount true, sharpen up like a dream and are tuff. No worries, I think you can order with confidence.
How do you sharpen them?
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Lots of sharpening info in the archives. Do a search in powwow of sniffer sharpening
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So whats changed about them? Anything?
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Originally posted by jkm97:
Originally posted by DarkTimber:
I shot them last year. I never shot the old ones to compare but they seem very well made, mount true, sharpen up like a dream and are tuff. No worries, I think you can order with confidence.
How do you sharpen them? [/b]
I mount mine on a short section of shaft and use an 8" file to sharpen 2 blades at a time. I then switch to a coarse diamond folding sharpener then a fine diamond using the same method as the file and finish on leather.
Like Mr Lay said, there are lots of ways to get them sharp, this is just the way that works for me. Some guys have better luck laying them flat on a larger file/stone. Just find what works for you and go with it. Good luck.
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Snuffers open huge holes and animals go down fast!
Simply put, they are very deadly and are a good head to have when the shot isn't exactly perfect.
Snuffers rock!
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I hate to think how many animals I have killed with them from squirrels to caribou I started using the Original Rothaar snuffer 160 gr then went to the 125 when magnus came out with them. I went to a Montec for a year but when you get used to the blood trails that you get with a snuffer its hard to not shoot them. I will be ordering some of the Thunder Valleys I sharpen mine with a file 2 blades at a time then when I get a good burr on all the blades I will lay flat on medium stone then fine stone I don't use leather I have a super fine stone called a moon stone that will put a surgical edge on them
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I am hoping to take them to Africa in 2016 and use them to take a lioness along with plains game
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I sure hope they improve...I loved the originals....but when Magnus had them I had variances in hardness between blades on same head. Have not bought any more since then but loved the results of the 160gr Snuffers. I also love my Ribteks for ease of sharpening and results as well...lots of good heads out there.
I like the Grizzly Kodiaks too but dread having to sharpen them...not really used them since first year. Questioning if the effort and stuff is worth it for a single bevel head as I am not going to carry a sharpening system in backpack on every hunt to touch them up. A file and carbide Lansky sharpener is more my speed...haha
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Originally posted by BowHuntingFool:
So whats changed about them? Anything?
I, too, am curious as to the answer to this question....anyone have the facts?
Thanks.
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Just got some, got them in the 160grn and just glued them onto my shafts inline with the start of the fletchings on an 8 degree helical (I put it to where when the shaft is laying on a table, the arrow rests between two blades as well as two feathers without any tilt).
I am waiting for them to dry before I do some shooting tests. Then I'll sharpen them using the 3rivers 3 blade CC sharpener, and be ready to hunt!
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Originally posted by RedStag5728:
Just got some, got them in the 160grn and just glued them onto my shafts inline with the start of the fletchings on an 8 degree helical (I put it to where when the shaft is laying on a table, the arrow rests between two blades as well as two feathers without any tilt).
I am waiting for them to dry before I do some shooting tests. Then I'll sharpen them using the 3rivers 3 blade CC sharpener, and be ready to hunt!
Will the 3 rivers sharpener get them hunting sharp on its own?
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Love snuffers been using them forever. Killed near a hundred deer with them half of them with hickory selfbows in the 50 lb range. All you "need" to sharpen them is a file. I like to use file, steel, diamond stone, leather. Like I said a file will work fine I just like shiney edges!
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^^^agreed...I have the Snuffer Tamer but dont use it any longer...just a mill file run across two blades at same time at angle...rotate, repeat....three or four passes.
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Originally posted by jkm97:
Originally posted by RedStag5728:
Just got some, got them in the 160grn and just glued them onto my shafts inline with the start of the fletchings on an 8 degree helical (I put it to where when the shaft is laying on a table, the arrow rests between two blades as well as two feathers without any tilt).
I am waiting for them to dry before I do some shooting tests. Then I'll sharpen them using the 3rivers 3 blade CC sharpener, and be ready to hunt!
Will the 3 rivers sharpener get them hunting sharp on its own? [/b]
To be honest I'm not sure, I got it due to good reviews and wanted to try it. I normally use the lansky sharpening system on all broad heads but I figured I'd give it a try. The sniffers I got IMO were hunting sharp out of the package but I like to get em scary sharp, sharp enough to shave a caveman
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Originally posted by Kevin Hansen:
Originally posted by BowHuntingFool:
So whats changed about them? Anything?
I, too, am curious as to the answer to this question....anyone have the facts?
Thanks. [/b]
Nothing has really change with them just the manufacturer Roger Rothaar start making them then magnus started making them when Rothaar retired now Magnus still makes a stainless steel model but not like the original model which Thunder Valley now makes.
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I grabbed a handful from Braveheart when they sold, figured they would change or increase in price. Older threads stated the 125 heads were not that great but the heavier heads were good. I grabbed both, have not shot any at game yet.
As stated a file sharpens them! Brock that avatar kinda freaks me out, I like it but it does!
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Just got the chance to try them out on my wooden arrows I made and posted about in the Woodie Love (http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=106699;p=30) post. I found that out of 6 arrows I dedicated to hunting arrows (out of the initial dozen from surewood shafts) 4 flew great with the 160 grn snuffers! 2 flew awkwardly, but it is in no way a fault to snuffers, inconsistency in spine could be to blame as the 4 I shot flew straight but slightly stiff, the other two flew extremely weak.
The only thing I dislike about the snuffers is compared to the same weight field points, they tend to drag wind a little more thus hit a little lower than the field points. Needless to say when gap shooting at 20 yards with the broad-heads, the arrow point is pointing at the target and I hit in the kill zone.
So, I will be limiting my shots to 20 yards max with the snuffers, but then again I don't imagine myself shooting any further than 20 yards anyway! :saywhat:
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Originally posted by RedStag5728:
Irregardless, one thing I will say about the snuffers: they are silent :saywhat:
well.... that's changed then.. I don't think the snuffers wind noise hurts anything but its always been there so the new ones don't do that ???
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Originally posted by Dave Lay:
Originally posted by RedStag5728:
Irregardless, one thing I will say about the snuffers: they are silent :saywhat:
well.... that's changed then.. I don't think the snuffers wind noise hurts anything but its always been there so the new ones don't do that ??? [/b]
I haven't noticed any noise from my 150s...
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I was surprised as well being vented. My 150 grain Steel Force Hellfires have a slight whistle from my bow, but I was amazed to find that the snuffers didn't! I think I've found my next favorite broadhead.
And to answer an earlier question about the CC Sharpener from 3rivers. I just sharpened one of the arrows that flew great tonight and got it shaving within an hour or so. When it comes to sharpening I'm pretty picky, even when it shave a little bit of hair I kept going until I could shave a good bit of hair with little effort. For the price I am pleased with the CC sharpener.