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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: bendotwood on March 31, 2014, 07:48:00 PM
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Do not clean off waxy stuff on your takedown joint. It turns out that it makes the sleeve fit tighter, it eliminates any tiny bit of play. If you remove the wax then the bow makes an awful flinch-inducing squirrel-scattering WHACK! every time its shot.
The noise sounds exactly like an out of tune arrow slapping the riser of the bow as it flies. It also occurs as the string is coming to a stop, which makes the noise happen just when an arrow slap would. If you are getting perfect bareshaft flight but your bow is noisy then this could be your issue.
To diagnose, de string and check for any wiggle in the sleeve. I had only a tiny wiggle, but it was still super noisy. The sleeve should feel rock solid, not even a hint of movement.
The fix is easy, its an old fishing trick to tighten up the joint on a 2 piece fishing rod. You take a candle (or some string wax) and smear it all over the male part of the joint. When you put the bow back together the joint should no longer have the wiggle.
I've never heard anyone talk about this before, and I just had a heck of a time fixing it. Trying to pass the word on so no one else goes on a 3 day tuning goose chase.
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I had the same issue until wax was added. It had me scared for a bit things were breaking but I later found it is normal.
I believe Big Jim sells a paste type wax specifically for this purpose.
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I just talked to Abe at caribou about this myself. By bow would make a popping sound every now and then. I was getting ready to send it to him to see if he could figure out what it was. He knew right away what it was! Lol
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Toilet Bowl Gasket Wax work really good for the sleeve type take downs.
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It has nothing to do with the play, but more likely friction. Even the loosest of sleaves or metal and brass sleaves can be made silent with just a little wax.
I melt toilet bowl rings into containers and ship with the bows. This is really a thick vaseline and is less prone to seizing up the joint in cold weather (sting wax can make the sleave nearly impossible to dissasemble).
If you have a socket that is a little looser, I would suggest the string wax as it will help to hold the bow together when un strung.
If you don't take a two piece apart ocasionally, the wax (or vaseline) will harden and make it diffacult to dissasemble too.
I probably take my bow down and check or add wax every few months or if it ever makes a noise...this is rare unless you let the sleave go dry for months.
BIgJIm
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It has nothing to do with the play, but more likely friction. Even the loosest of sleaves or metal and brass sleaves can be made silent with just a little wax.
I melt toilet bowl rings into containers and ship with the bows. This is really a thick vaseline and is less prone to seizing up the joint in cold weather (sting wax can make the sleave nearly impossible to dissasemble).
If you have a socket that is a little looser, I would suggest the string wax as it will help to hold the bow together when un strung.
If you don't take a two piece apart ocasionally, the wax (or vaseline) will harden and make it diffacult to dissasemble too.
I probably take my bow down and check or add wax every few months or if it ever makes a noise...this is rare unless you let the sleave go dry for months.
BIgJIm
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This also applies to 3 piece takedowns. Eliminating noise may be as easy as using furniture wax on the handle. I know some people use leather or fabric pads between the limb and handle, but I don't like to as IMO the pad can hold moisture that can penetrate the finish.
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Great information here. Thanks.
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Originally posted by last arrow:
This also applies to 3 piece takedowns. Eliminating noise may be as easy as using furniture wax on the handle. I know some people use leather or fabric pads between the limb and handle, but I don't like to as IMO the pad can hold moisture that can penetrate the finish.
The best limb pad liner you can use on a 3 piece is cork or rubber gasket material when wax doesn't do the trick.... a soggy felt liner that freezes is where you'll see damage.
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Been using string wax on takedown limbs forever-thought everyone knew this. No matter how tight the tolerances are of takedown joints there is and always will be friction caused by the two objects. Wax and/or moleskin in some cases of takedown limbs from 3 pieces prevents this noise.
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Don't have the problem, but still very good to know.
Thanks to all.
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Wow. This is timely. I just heard the "click" last night for the first time on my thunder child. I knew the bow was fine and was wondering why the noise now as it had been dead silent since I got it around Xmas time.
I even received the can of wax that Jim mentioned, though I thought it was some kind of custom string wax :-)
Now I know.