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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Swiftspeed10 on April 02, 2014, 11:06:00 AM
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So I'm ordering a new bow soon and I've already made up my mind as to the veneers (going with a darker Myrtle Burl), but as far as the riser is concerned I wanted to go with something darker with a reddish hint--I was thinking cocobolo or bubinga. I would be using a yellow leather grip (instead of the usual black) and I think the contrast would be nice. Can anyone share any pictures of nicely figured cocobolo or bubinga?
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Here are pics of a Border Griffon GL that I just sold and my RER LXR riser.
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/Border%20Griffon/DSC_0016.jpg) (http://s299.photobucket.com/user/bladepeek/media/Archery/Border%20Griffon/DSC_0016.jpg.html)
(http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm312/bladepeek/Archery/RER%20LXR/RERbutton.jpg) (http://s299.photobucket.com/user/bladepeek/media/Archery/RER%20LXR/RERbutton.jpg.html)
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This is a Bezaleel ILF riser by Andy McCoy. Its Cocobolo with Bocote accent
(http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww147/tjblackforest69/Bezaleel%20ILF%20handle%20with%20Morrison%20MAX1/McCoyILF1.jpg) (http://s714.photobucket.com/user/tjblackforest69/media/Bezaleel%20ILF%20handle%20with%20Morrison%20MAX1/McCoyILF1.jpg.html)
and this is a riser from a Bezaleel Cougar, Cocobolo and Bocote as well
(http://i714.photobucket.com/albums/ww147/tjblackforest69/bezaleel%20cougar/DSCF0009.jpg) (http://s714.photobucket.com/user/tjblackforest69/media/bezaleel%20cougar/DSCF0009.jpg.html)
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Here's my Predator...The riser is Bubinga
(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz199/taxyman/newpredatorbow7_zpsb5872822.jpg) (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/taxyman/media/newpredatorbow7_zpsb5872822.jpg.html)
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My Blacktail is Cocobolo and Myrtle...seems like Cocobolo gets darker as it gets older!
(http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz199/taxyman/newblacktailbow3_zpsac6dfbb5.jpg) (http://s827.photobucket.com/user/taxyman/media/newblacktailbow3_zpsac6dfbb5.jpg.html)
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Oh I like the coco Myrtle combo.
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Stewart Slammer
(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/chromebuck/DSC02852_zpsb87c09aa.jpg)
Eaglewing Double Carbon
(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/chromebuck/fcb49572-9701-4ef2-a819-fcd6b87fd303_zps4511e812.jpg)
Jack Kempf
(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/chromebuck/DSC02106.jpg)
Thunderhorn Vintage
(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/chromebuck/DSC01372.jpg)
Toelke Lynx
(http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu47/chromebuck/DSC00745.jpg)
Theres a little cocobolo for ya...
~CB
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I don't have any pics but I just ordered some coco and tiger myrtle for a riser from Big Jim. Going with the tiger myrtle for veneers too. Looks good in my mind, we'll see how's she turns out!
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This is the grip of a Blacktail Elite VL one-piece I used to own. I have no idea where this bow has run off too! It is the best figured Cocobolo I've seen to date.
This bow also has Myrtle flares.
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/LRBTVLGrip.jpg) (http://s956.photobucket.com/user/bowwild/media/LRBTVLGrip.jpg.html)
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/LRBTBowFAce.jpg) (http://s956.photobucket.com/user/bowwild/media/LRBTBowFAce.jpg.html)
(http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/bowwild/LRBTWindowClose-UP.jpg) (http://s956.photobucket.com/user/bowwild/media/LRBTWindowClose-UP.jpg.html)
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I like the seamless look of the belly of that Blacktail Elite. Now that's some pretty wood!
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I have a chechen riser on my cari-bow. I can't load pictures, I'm not that smart. It's a nice deep red, as another option
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I think Norm's work (Blacktail) is at the very top of the heap. There are a couple others there with him as well.
Every time I go digging for old photos of this Coco Blacktail I am reminded that I've never seen as nice a bow in cocobolo. Makes me wonder how dumb I was to let it go on.
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Wingnut started a thrread on the availability of cocobolo in the near future, better get on the list real soon.
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Fedora Xtrem
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/post-5437-1251128101.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/post-5437-1251128101.jpg.html)
Big Jim buffalo
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/BJ2.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/BJ2.jpg.html)
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/BJ1.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/BJ1.jpg.html)
Toelke lynx
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/DSC00280.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/DSC00280.jpg.html)
Pittsley Predator
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx225/hybridbowhunter/photo2-8.jpg) (http://s758.photobucket.com/user/hybridbowhunter/media/photo2-8.jpg.html)
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all beautiful pictures and bows guys! I'm still on the fence as to what I want...but I know it has to be figured and dark reddish in color. Maybe snakewood or figured rosewood. Decisions decisions...
that blacktail is pretty close...gorgeous.
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Here's my Toelke Whip- riser is "dark" Cocobolo. It's like the wood is almost black with light streaks, but glows faint red in bright light..kinda like a smoldering piece of wood. The other side of the riser is a little lighter with more figure.
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s631/nineworlds9/1B4C7039-EA0B-449D-9D3B-BAE1F4B062DF.jpg) (http://s1309.photobucket.com/user/nineworlds9/media/1B4C7039-EA0B-449D-9D3B-BAE1F4B062DF.jpg.html)
(http://i1309.photobucket.com/albums/s631/nineworlds9/B1688B32-B06A-4A65-9944-4DAC7D84934B.jpg) (http://s1309.photobucket.com/user/nineworlds9/media/B1688B32-B06A-4A65-9944-4DAC7D84934B.jpg.html)
You might consider Bolivian Rosewood specifically. Or perhaps a wood with a red stain applied. Chechen, Sapele or Goncalo Alves with a stain would be interesting. If you're real picky you can have the bowyer take pics of the riser block wiped with alcohol to reveal what the wood will likely look like finished.
That Blacktail was nuts!!
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One I made quite some time ago. Love cocobolo but it is heavy.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/doublelung/LeftSideofRiser.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/doublelung/media/LeftSideofRiser.jpg.html)
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Heres the solid cocobolo riser of my Sarrels Blueridge:
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/BlueridgeTDLongbow007.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/archeryrules/media/BlueridgeTDLongbow007.jpg.html)
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/BlueridgeTDLongbow008.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/archeryrules/media/BlueridgeTDLongbow008.jpg.html)
Bisch
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(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/disneyschafer333.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/yornoc/media/disneyschafer333.jpg.html)
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/disneyschafer331.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/yornoc/media/disneyschafer331.jpg.html)
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/disneyschafer322.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/yornoc/media/disneyschafer322.jpg.html)
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/disneyschafer312.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/yornoc/media/disneyschafer312.jpg.html)
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab246/yornoc/foxandburrs016.jpg) (http://s868.photobucket.com/user/yornoc/media/foxandburrs016.jpg.html)
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(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/buckvalley/IMAG0148-1.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/buckvalley/media/IMAG0148-1.jpg.html)
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This is my favorite combo coco and bocote. Love this bows woods. (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h58/buckvalley/LOSTCREEKBOWS/023.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/buckvalley/media/LOSTCREEKBOWS/023.jpg.html)
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Cocobolo can vary in color from tree to tree and the region it was harvested in. You can find more reddish (seems to most common), a more chocolate color and a more orangeish color.
See Hummingbird Bows stock longbow pics to see the orangeish color phase.
Best thing is cocobolo is a heavy wood and make a heavier riser. It is heavier than Shedua, Bubinga, Chechen and most others.
Wood database.com
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(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy25/longbowfanatic_1234/76123934-5B94-489D-9C63-F28FD38E7E41_zpswdxy8yh7.jpg) (http://s774.photobucket.com/user/longbowfanatic_1234/media/76123934-5B94-489D-9C63-F28FD38E7E41_zpswdxy8yh7.jpg.html)
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The cocobolo on my Sarells Sierra is kind of unique. It's nothing that's just absolutely wild, but I've never seen anything else like it. The grain pattern runs in undulating waves and it has wide, deep fiddleback figuring to it. It's very difficult to photograph under the matte finish but in sunlight it plays and dances around like a holograph.
In person it is colored almost like half way between a lighter piece of walnut and that reddish cordovan leather color. The grain is a very dark grey like 70-80% black in a paint or spreadsheet. The lightest areas between the grain and in the figure turn up to a reddish orange color. It's not expedition grade cocobolo, but it's just special enough to be unique and grown on me.
Here are some photos before and after the home-made grip was installed in various lighting conditions...
Summer time, direct overhead, no clouds:
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee146/gdpolk/Traditional%20Projects/IMG_0265_zps434ee606.jpg)
Summer time, partly cloudy, about 1.5-2 hours before sunset:
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee146/gdpolk/Traditional%20Projects/IMG_0344_zpsd429238e.jpg)
Indoors at night with flourescent lamps on to help show the figure thats hard to catch with a camera in full, direct lighting:
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee146/gdpolk/Traditional%20Projects/SarellsSierraLongbow.jpg)
Hope this helps. ;)
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I have a thing for dark cocobolo
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv2/zanespurs/Doc/IMG_5249.jpg) (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/zanespurs/media/Doc/IMG_5249.jpg.html)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv2/zanespurs/Zane%20Horne%20Brush%20Bow%202013/photo8.jpg) (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/zanespurs/media/Zane%20Horne%20Brush%20Bow%202013/photo8.jpg.html)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv2/zanespurs/Thunderchild/IMG_1991.jpg) (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/zanespurs/media/Thunderchild/IMG_1991.jpg.html)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv2/zanespurs/The%20Twins/photo_4.jpg) (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/zanespurs/media/The%20Twins/photo_4.jpg.html)
(http://i664.photobucket.com/albums/vv2/zanespurs/The%20Twins/IMG_5628.jpg) (http://s664.photobucket.com/user/zanespurs/media/The%20Twins/IMG_5628.jpg.html)
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Zane, that top one is a beauty!
Bisch
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That's the Horne I just sold. Awesome bow, great piece of coco.
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(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w266/MGERARDI_2007/IMG951314_zpsa796065e.jpg)
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My Big Jim Buffalo , Cocobolo and Zebra wood
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb417/duffer1565/Buffalo%20Bow/2013-05-27084546_zpse234f9f7.jpg) (http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/duffer1565/media/Buffalo%20Bow/2013-05-27084546_zpse234f9f7.jpg.html) (http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb417/duffer1565/Buffalo%20Bow/2013-05-27084539_zpse27487d4.jpg) (http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/duffer1565/media/Buffalo%20Bow/2013-05-27084539_zpse27487d4.jpg.html) (http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb417/duffer1565/Buffalo%20Bow/2013-05-27084527_zps8986aee8.jpg) (http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/duffer1565/media/Buffalo%20Bow/2013-05-27084527_zps8986aee8.jpg.html)
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YORNOK, Who made your bow?
BT
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I have always thought this old Grizzly had a pretty Bubinga riser
(http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag252/caputo_art/bccaa4ab6b7c5f24259a8ec758d40eb3_zps0a2466b4.jpg) (http://s1370.photobucket.com/user/caputo_art/media/bccaa4ab6b7c5f24259a8ec758d40eb3_zps0a2466b4.jpg.html)
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(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu178/ryanderlago/P1000354_zps400c5ea1.jpg) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/ryanderlago/media/P1000354_zps400c5ea1.jpg.html)
How about Birdseye Coco?
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Birdseye coco?...annnd mind blown...
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(http://i.imgur.com/DralFt9.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/ol7GNHw.jpg)
My 58 inch Fox Royal Crown.
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(http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu178/ryanderlago/P1000352_zpsbd4be9e0.jpg) (http://s645.photobucket.com/user/ryanderlago/media/P1000352_zpsbd4be9e0.jpg.html)
The Birdseye Coco limb!
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Big Timber, YORNOC's bow is a Schafer.
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Ryan, that birdseye coco is fantastic.
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Might consider other rosewoods also like kingwood
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I have two a Hill and a pierce point Robertson. I was considering parting with them, but it may be better to let them rest and hand them down for the kids.
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Here is some bubinga for you along side Bocote.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Doc%20Noc%20Sas/SANY0040.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/kirkll/media/Bows%202012/Doc%20Noc%20Sas/SANY0040.jpg.html)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Doc%20Noc%20Sas/SANY0036.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/kirkll/media/Bows%202012/Doc%20Noc%20Sas/SANY0036.jpg.html)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bows%202012/Doc%20Noc%20Sas/SANY0028-1.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/kirkll/media/Bows%202012/Doc%20Noc%20Sas/SANY0028-1.jpg.html)
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Here is another Bubinga bow.
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bow%20building/TD%20Sasquatch%202011/Freds%20Sasquatch/SANY0079.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/kirkll/media/Bow%20building/TD%20Sasquatch%202011/Freds%20Sasquatch/SANY0079.jpg.html)
(http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u301/kirkll/Bow%20building/TD%20Sasquatch%202011/Freds%20Sasquatch/SANY0064.jpg) (http://s171.photobucket.com/user/kirkll/media/Bow%20building/TD%20Sasquatch%202011/Freds%20Sasquatch/SANY0064.jpg.html)
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Thanks Straitshot, the lines of that bow are awesome.
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My Coco TallTines
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b351/osminski/Bows/Long%20Riser%20TT/P2020926.jpg)
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b351/osminski/Bows/Long%20Riser%20TT/P2020911.jpg)