Trad Gang
Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Pat B. on June 12, 2014, 11:09:00 PM
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Just wondering if there have been many P&Y bucks taken, in modern times, with a selfbow ??
What's modern times, I don't know, maybe since 1950 or so... Time doesn't really matter that much..
Anyone know of one or a dozen ????
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Pat, Thad Beckum of South East GA killed a 185#, 138 3/8" P&Y buck in GA with homemade primitive archery gear.
There is an article by Billy Berger about Thad Beckum that in the most recent PA magazine.
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I think I kill one every month in my daydreams of this coming fall...
-Jeremy :coffee:
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FYI the type of Bow doesn't matter.
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I saw that article Pat, it was very interesting. He must be quite a hunter.. That's what prompted the question..
Apparently it's not something that's done very often....
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I have only killed one animal in my life with a selfbow, a warthog in Africa.
Now, I hope to change that this season......especially since I got these in the St Jude Auction a few days ago!
(http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss239/archeryrules/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/BD8D91DD-417C-43E0-B288-D2FDD23BB22C_zpslqc7c0yc.jpg) (http://s579.photobucket.com/user/archeryrules/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-06/BD8D91DD-417C-43E0-B288-D2FDD23BB22C_zpslqc7c0yc.jpg.html)
I have been daydreaming for quite some time about killing an animal with a stone point, and it just does not seem "right" to do it with anything other than an all wood bow!
Bisch
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Though not really common, I believe a greater ratio of those using selfbows kill more P&Y bucks than those using glass backed bows. None of those who have done it around here "register our deer with P&Y" so they technically are not P&Y deer. However, I know Mark Baker, Hunter Rung, and myself have all taken whitetails with selfbows that would qualify, should we choose to enter them. I think Doug Campbell and Lenny Brown have also done it, but am not positive. That's 5 of approximately 10-12 people I know who hunt with selfbowss in this part of Montana
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"FYI the type of Bow doesn't matter."
Anyone comparing modern compounds with selfbows has to be joking...
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Walt I thought there was probably quite a few out there... It was just something that I had not heard about until I read the article in the latest PA..
Congrats on your deer and other game..
Get 'em Bisch !!!
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A selfbow will kill a trophy deer just as dead as a modern compound! Actually I have a hard time calling a compound a bow anyway.
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I have a friend here in TX that has taken a deer that would qualify for P&Y with a selfbow and stone point. I would bet, like Walt said above, that there are a lot more of them out there than you would think.
Bisch
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Not to brag just the fact, I did kill a p&y buck in 2000 witha sinew backed Osage bow, river cane arrow and a jay Massey style broadhead,and yes I did register him to pay homage to the animal. That's what p&y was intended to do.
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I'm pretty sure, Richard Jackson from near Terre Haute, In. has shot a few. He's a member here, and is a very fine artist and craftsman, to say the least and hunter! A fine gentleman, too!
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I've managed to tag a few over the years, my first is registered, none of the others are.
However, if I am ever so lucky as to take one with a self bow I just might reconsider..
:thumbsup: Pat
Bisch, is this the year ????
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Didn't Mark Mitten (Mike Mittens brother) kill a B&C with primitive gear ?
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Yes he did, a magnificent animal!
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My brother Mark took his B.C. class buck with a stone head, but he used his 75# Great Northern bush bow. Mike
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I've done it. Four times. Actually, I didn't kill my first Pope and Young until I started shooting selfbows.
justin
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Well done Justin !!! That's quite an accomplishment..
If I recall correctly Marks buck went around 187" and was an outstanding animal.. You guys are great bowhunters !
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I think gun meant that type of bow doesn't matter for purposes of P&Y recording. I am very interested in who has bagged them myself but the guys who have done also seem to be the types who don't go online to boast about it.
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You're probably right BBJ but I have become very interested in selfbows and just haven't noticed many hunting with them... Guess I was looking hard enough since there seems to be quite a few that have dedicated themselves to the wooden bow.
How cool is that ??
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I know a gentleman who killed a huge 11 pointer that me and 2 other big dudes had to help drag,, monster rack but I don't measure them but easily as big as the biggest 10's I seen on walls..
its a different state of mind I think with folks that use primitive bows because this deer got butchered, the pelt got done and the rack got cut off its head with a hack saw and its with all the other racks this fella has harvested through out the years,, no real pics, and no measurements..
I have to admit if I shot a world class buck I'd pretty much do the same I'm not really into it for people to go wow, I honestly think when I started hunting trad is when I started thinking this way.
BUT I believe Paul Brunner had some nice primitive harvests,, the 8th dwarf--> wish he still posted.
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I shot this one from the ground, with an osage selfbow, and rivercane arrows with obsidian heads. Don't know if he would make P&Y, but he weighed over 300 pounds. He made my book, and yielded over 150 pounds of great tasting meat.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7415/11162346886_249d584238_s.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/i1nWQE) 1999 obsidian point buck (https://flic.kr/p/i1nWQE) by okawbow (https://www.flickr.com/people//) , on Flickr
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This is a buck Kelly G shot with a selfbow....
It was a toad!!!
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c210/coaster500/meand1sttraddeer_zpsb1d961b1.jpg) (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/coaster500/media/meand1sttraddeer_zpsb1d961b1.jpg.html)
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that's a nice deer right there,, Coaster your from a town I never been to but love,,,, luv my stingray bass made there.
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That was Kelly's first selfbow. I think he built the bow when he was in Iraq.