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Main Boards => PowWow => Topic started by: Bob B. on July 24, 2014, 01:05:00 PM
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I am looking for thoughts on how these two bows compare from folks who have shot them. My bow will be one of these with Osage limbs and curly maple riser covered in brown glass, 68 inches long and about 55 pounds at 29 inches of draw.
I prefer string follow bows but am looking for opinions from fellow tradgangers.
Bob.
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I'll be watching this post.......I just got on the list for a Morningstar......I would like to hear the feed back myself!
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I have both a Morningstar and Northstar, and I slightly prefer the Morningstar. To me, the Morningstar has a more consistent feel to the draw; with the slightly reflexed limbs, there's more weight at the beginning of the draw, and it builds smoothly and consistently throughout the draw.
To me, the string follow bow has too little weight in the beginning of the draw, and builds at a higher rate throughout the draw (it has to, since its draw starts out with less weight than the Morningstar). Because of this, to me the string follow bow gives the sensation of stacking at/near the end of the draw (even though it's not really stacking in the sense of hitting a wall).
That being said, I spoke with James Berry just the other day, and he said that the Northstar that I've got (just picked it up used from another tradganger) was built in November 2013, and the ones he's currently building have less string follow than mine (mine has more than 1" of string follow).
Could be my imagination, but although both bows are very quiet, the Northstar does seem slightly quieter and seems to have a slightly softer "shot feel". My Morningstar is just a few pounds lighter than the Northstar, but it seems just as fast or even faster than the Northstar. I haven't had much time with the Northstar yet, but I seem to shoot them both with similar accuracy.
I believe one of the supposed benefits of string-follow bows is that they are believed to be more accurate than reflexed (backset) or straight-limbed ASLs (all other things being equal, of course), but the reverse-handle design of these bows seems to have more influence on the accuracy than whether the limbs are backset or string-follow.
I don't mean to speak for James, but from our conversation it seemed to me that his personal preference is for the Morningstar. I feel the same, but both are very nice bows.
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I can't help with a comparison either, since I only have the Morning Star.
My Morning Star, 66" marked 43#@27" measures 46.5#@28" on my digital scale. It has neither back set nor string follow; rather the limbs are perfectly straight when unstrung.
It's the first straight grip that actually felt good to me - I guess because of the forward handle design. I get no hand shock as I have with several Hill style bows and it's definitely one of the two quietest of all my bows. I hear guys talk about how you have to heel a Hill style, but I just let this one lie on my thumb pad with no real grip at all. Nice!
Once I got some arrows tuned to it, I am shooting it as accurately as my other bows and I just started working with it.
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More info pleeeeeeeeeease...I'm getting close and I thought I had my mind made up!!!
Now I'm thinking NS again since it's been re-designed.
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My choice is the Morningstar. I feel it has a bit more performance, and is most certainly the smoothest drawing not only of these two, but of all the bows I've had. But like JHK said above, James went to a new form for the Northstar recently so that it now has less string follow.
Honestly, with James artistry, craftsmanship, and design.....choose which one is sexiest to you, James' bows always perform.
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This is a spot on post! I love it when a thread gets to the meat and potatoes of a subject like this. I'd be happy to offer a full on comparison if someone will put their Morningstar up for sale!
:thumbsup:
Tim
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I own both, my nod goes to the Morningstar solely because I prefer a little backset over stringfollow . The draw feels better to me with a backset. BUT with that said, the Northstar is a great bow and it will hold its own that's for sure.
Mine has been taken hostage as I let a friend and fellow tradganger borrow it, which he now says can not come back to me until he spills blood with it so I hope him a quick early kill this season. Lol
The Morningstar really is just perfection in the shape of a bow.
If you prefer stringfollow bows , go Northstar, if you prefer Backset go Morningstar as there is no wrong Berry.
And Bob, you can give me a call bud if you want to talk it more in depth
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Good to hear from you Brian, I was hoping you would chime in. Also, thank you to all those who have offered responses to my post, I especially liked what JKH1 said, that helped me to understand.
Brian, I may call you this weekend, I am getting knee surgery tomorrow. :(
Bob
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Now what if your through a Taipan in the mix.
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Originally posted by DaveT1963:
Now what if your through a Taipan in the mix.
Then you'd want to start a thread titled "Taipan vs. Argos". Lol
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Originally posted by DaveT1963:
Now what if your through a Taipan in the mix.
x2 for the Taipan :)
Back on topic :) Rob's Morning Star is one of the most expertly crafted bows I've ever shot. The smoothness of the draw on that bow is unrivaled.
The cast is flat our amazing and the feel is as beautiful as the bow itself... Rob can sling an arrow with that thing too, they don't hit anything but he sure knows how to send them flying :eek:
Just kidding he's a killer shot with that bow, I think it will be the bow they bury him with :)
This is why I am torn between a second Taipan and a MS :)
Jon
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Originally posted by Green:
Originally posted by DaveT1963:
Now what if your through a Taipan in the mix.
Then you'd want to start a thread titled "Taipan vs. Argos". Lol [/b]
Do it! easy answer though... both :)
Jon
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I too prefer the Morningstar. It just seems "right" when I shoot it. Superb craftsmanship and a joy to behold!! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Read that as 2 thumbs up....
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I can't add anything since I don't have both.(yet)
I will say I seriously doubt you could go wrong with either.
God bless,Mudd
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Mudd x 2.....wait, would that be MUDDY!